I love pedals and have a long wish list, but damn It’s getting really hard to justify buying $150 to $200+ pedals when you can get all these usable tones for $149. STL and Neural DSP are killing it right now. I have STL’s Andy James and Will Putney and DSP’s Abasi all high quality I’m just scratching the surface of the sounds in these. This ToneHub could be a real game changer. Those pedals will have to wait for now.
went through hell and back to understand this virtual guitar thing lol. but how do i record what i play from tonehub? i tried reaper (daw) but when i try to record, it only record my clean natural guitar tone and not the distortions what i play from tone hub..please help!
Hey dude, whats the optimal input level going into Tonehub? I can't decide whether the tone sounds best peaking -2.1dB or -5.6dB. I even heard some people saying aim for -18dB but it sounds so weak then!
@@Crispeacock Does not work this way. First off I don't think you can turn off cab in tone hub and second Its not the same as a direct profile with no cab
@@Crispeacock You can't disable the cab section in Tonehub. And it's ridiculous, because they gave us Libra which is awesome, but with Tonehub is useless. But 1+1= 2. In this particular case: 49,99$ + 199$ = 248,99. Nice profit from one customer.
Looks like a forward thinking release from STL tones. Like the tonecloud before it but much more refined in getting not only other guitar players on board adding their amps/tones but producers as well. Pretty cool stuff, would be sick if they could expand presets later on to say adding in some of their (producers) personal console/outboard gear characteristics. Didn’t they do something like that with the Will Putney suite with that Blue module in the chain? (Can’t remember if it was a post eq or compressor or something?).
Hey Ray that’s a really sick plugin, it sounds great! I would want to see a Knocked Loose plugin pack since Will Putney produced their first 2 albums. Just a question, do you need the Axe FX in order to access the tones and use this plugin?
Hell, I'm still getting plenty of miles from their free Ignite Emissary suite. This and Libra has got my full attention. Neural DSP has made a strong case for being the company that gets my first plugin purchase for a while, but I'm thinking STL has won that lil internal debate.
Sounds pretty awesome. I would love to see a John Petrucci artist pack. I feel a lot of plugins, if any, have included some sort of Dream Theater flavor to them.
A bit of a no brainier for guitar enthusiasts and I would say great for new players as well. The packs may seem a little pricey, but when you think for $60 you are having a world class producer set up their best rigs for you, that seems a bargain. Great video, thanks!
I was impressed with your video about neural dsp granophyre, I had tried the demo and I was about to buy it. Now that I see this I would like to try this but there is no demo until 3rd April. So I guess I will wait until them to try it by myself and if its not better than my neuralDSP plugins I will stick with them. Btw, in terms of sound quality what do you think? Is this as good as neural dsp granophyre?
Ha ha im in pretty much the same predicament. I want to buy one plugin to last me and my granophyre trial just ended, which I was about to buy, but then this dropped...I can see a lot more potential flexibility in this so now I'm having second thoughts.😆 I'm quite liking listening to the Lasse Lammert preset pack audio examples and the demos people have done on YT. But yeah, wait til April for a demo or chance it now at a discount? Such decisions....😜
@@DavePowell666 I prefer lose the discount but know what I am buying. Cos I don't need all the presets: I just need a consistent sound, and I want to be sure when I buy it
@@DarkSkarStudiowith the savings right know you save $110, pretty much the price of Granophyre... For the price of the Tonehub+pack in april could have both. Or buy more packs if you like Tonehub 😁
@@chrisstrong3748 One mic goes perpendicular (head straight onto the grill) the the other one goes at a 55 degree angle relative to the first mike. There's a clip you can buy directly from the man himself.
The only thing that is missing is making it midi compatible the only reason why I haven't bought it. If you bought all the packs you wanted and let you put them in a midi pedal board I would buy the whole lot.
OK, here's the deal. If you have a good player, a good instrument, a high quality DI, and knowledge of what actually sounds good, no one here will be able to tell the difference between this plugin and a real amp.
@@xanderraymondcharles But you can use the STL stuff only right ? You can't use other profiles, that's the limitation. But for those who like the STL stuff, it's great. I love my Kemper, personally.
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I love pedals and have a long wish list, but damn It’s getting really hard to justify buying $150 to $200+ pedals when you can get all these usable tones for $149. STL and Neural DSP are killing it right now. I have STL’s Andy James and Will Putney and DSP’s Abasi all high quality I’m just scratching the surface of the sounds in these. This ToneHub could be a real game changer. Those pedals will have to wait for now.
I would love to see a “Carcass pack”something that simulates the Heartwork’s tone
Farbod Kh i back this so hard. legendary tone
Just grab a 5150?
85 AD Studios marshall governor + 5150+cab
Its gonna be too expensive and too loud for a bedroom
Sounds awesome. Seems easy to use as well.
What preset did you use for the song collage in the intro?
went through hell and back to understand this virtual guitar thing lol. but how do i record what i play from tonehub? i tried reaper (daw) but when i try to record, it only record my clean natural guitar tone and not the distortions what i play from tone hub..please help!
Hey dude, whats the optimal input level going into Tonehub? I can't decide whether the tone sounds best peaking -2.1dB or -5.6dB. I even heard some people saying aim for -18dB but it sounds so weak then!
Most importantly STL has Ray. Done. Dude sounds massive. I’ll be looking to score next week.
Hey buddy I don’t work for STL Tones anymore, I left about 6 weeks ago
Stay Metal Ray oh my bad dude. Sorry for not keeping with the times. 😔
@@FuzzImp haha no worries dude its all good. I kept it hush hush
I'm using PreSonus studio one v5 Artist. At the start up screen when it loads, it shows a list as everything loads and says TONEHUB is blocked.
Those drums are sounding 🔥
Thanks man
If we have the axefx kemper packs already and we buy tonehub can we use those for tonehub or you have to re-buy tonehub version?
you have to buy the tonehub packs
Ray what is your Model interface and chain going into the STL/DAW?
Damn Ray you can sit there start chugging and just jam out! You make it look so easy😁👊
Thanks man I appreciate that. I’m doing my best!
when they offer direct profiles and I can use my I.R's I'll revisit this
What do you mean by "direct profiles"?
all you need to do to use your own IR is to disable the cab section in Tonehub and add an IR Loader in your DAW
@@Crispeacock Does not work this way. First off I don't think you can turn off cab in tone hub and second Its not the same as a direct profile with no cab
@@Crispeacock You can't disable the cab section in Tonehub. And it's ridiculous, because they gave us Libra which is awesome, but with Tonehub is useless. But 1+1= 2. In this particular case: 49,99$ + 199$ = 248,99. Nice profit from one customer.
Never owned a Kemper, but does it sound like this? Is this basically the Kemper-in-your-PC solution with the exact same audio quality?
Looks like a forward thinking release from STL tones. Like the tonecloud before it but much more refined in getting not only other guitar players on board adding their amps/tones but producers as well. Pretty cool stuff, would be sick if they could expand presets later on to say adding in some of their (producers) personal console/outboard gear characteristics.
Didn’t they do something like that with the Will Putney suite with that Blue module in the chain? (Can’t remember if it was a post eq or compressor or something?).
Hey Ray that’s a really sick plugin, it sounds great! I would want to see a Knocked Loose plugin pack since Will Putney produced their first 2 albums. Just a question, do you need the Axe FX in order to access the tones and use this plugin?
Hey buddy nah you don’t need an Axefx , it’s its own thing, and you just buy and upload packs through the pmugin
I would love to see a Knocked Loose plugin
There's a knocked loose preset in the stl will putney, so probably there's one here too. Idk
Stay Metal Ray Alright cool that’s awesome, I will definitely check it out. Thanks bro i’m loving all the content, keep it up!
can you record with it or do you have to use a separate DAW?
You need a daw to record
Hell, I'm still getting plenty of miles from their free Ignite Emissary suite. This and Libra has got my full attention. Neural DSP has made a strong case for being the company that gets my first plugin purchase for a while, but I'm thinking STL has won that lil internal debate.
Sounds pretty awesome. I would love to see a John Petrucci artist pack. I feel a lot of plugins, if any, have included some sort of Dream Theater flavor to them.
I gotta try that awesome software. Killer
You’ll love it man trust me!
A bit of a no brainier for guitar enthusiasts and I would say great for new players as well. The packs may seem a little pricey, but when you think for $60 you are having a world class producer set up their best rigs for you, that seems a bargain. Great video, thanks!
Ray , have you tried THU’s rig packs as well? They sound great, too. The plugin world keeps getting better and better for guitarists.
Hahaha dude we have the same exact desk! not only that but we both removed that annoying bottom of the desk bar lol
I was impressed with your video about neural dsp granophyre, I had tried the demo and I was about to buy it.
Now that I see this I would like to try this but there is no demo until 3rd April.
So I guess I will wait until them to try it by myself and if its not better than my neuralDSP plugins I will stick with them.
Btw, in terms of sound quality what do you think? Is this as good as neural dsp granophyre?
Ha ha im in pretty much the same predicament. I want to buy one plugin to last me and my granophyre trial just ended, which I was about to buy, but then this dropped...I can see a lot more potential flexibility in this so now I'm having second thoughts.😆 I'm quite liking listening to the Lasse Lammert preset pack audio examples and the demos people have done on YT. But yeah, wait til April for a demo or chance it now at a discount? Such decisions....😜
@@DavePowell666 I prefer lose the discount but know what I am buying. Cos I don't need all the presets:
I just need a consistent sound, and I want to be sure when I buy it
@@DarkSkarStudiowith the savings right know you save $110, pretty much the price of Granophyre... For the price of the Tonehub+pack in april could have both. Or buy more packs if you like Tonehub 😁
That sounds fanfuckintastic!
The only issue I have with this at the moment is the amount of feedback I get on high gain presets
Whats the riff from 3:47?
Is this plugin really demanding on the CPU ? Great video by the way ! :)
I can get a nice clean and heavy rhythm/ lead tone. But I always struggle to get that marshally tone. So I would say someone like Paul Gilbert man.
So you can angle the mic now? That's cool (*thinking about pulling a 55' Fredman angle technique*)..
Yessir. Very cool stuff indeed
@@xanderraymondcharles Angle only seems to go as far as 45' though so no Fredman straight through the plugin.. for now
Quick question. In the Fredman technique, in the real world, do you measure it at 55° from perpendicular to the speaker or a 55° angle from parallel?
@@chrisstrong3748 One mic goes perpendicular (head straight onto the grill) the the other one goes at a 55 degree angle relative to the first mike. There's a clip you can buy directly from the man himself.
The only thing that is missing is making it midi compatible the only reason why I haven't bought it. If you bought all the packs you wanted and let you put them in a midi pedal board I would buy the whole lot.
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Definition: When STL releases a new plugin, we download it 😂
Jason Frankhouser has some amazing Kemper stuff...i'd love to see some of his stuff on here
This is nice
this needs a nolly and misha mansoor preset and Rabea too
I like your shirt
thanks!
Like. Then watch.
Can you switch off the cab?
I buyed the plugin yesterday, you can't turn the cab of, maybe with a future update.
@@glennshre Ye I figured that you couldn't as it is a snapshot of a full signal flow.. But I am curious how they make the cab/mic placement work??
Has it changed yet?
My presets don't sound like this lol
OK, here's the deal. If you have a good player, a good instrument, a high quality DI, and knowledge of what actually sounds good, no one here will be able to tell the difference between this plugin and a real amp.
Ok so this is like a Kemper that doesnt costs a ton of money? Holy cow!
yeah basically this makes the axefx and kemper obsolete, Pretty crazy honestly
Sound meh imo compared to neural DSP stuff or TH-U.
@@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 True, Neural DSP is on another level.
@@xanderraymondcharles But you can use the STL stuff only right ? You can't use other profiles, that's the limitation. But for those who like the STL stuff, it's great. I love my Kemper, personally.
@@jensloetzsch You cant play kemper packs through this, only tonehb packs. Hope that makes sense
Pretty much all the settings sound the same. Look at all the packs, the settings are pretty much the same, same amps, same cabs, etc
Demo after the intro sales period - I hate STL for this product and sales strategy.