The issue, among others, is that the people who write Superman don't understand Superman. (Not talking about golden age Superman, what Superman is now). Superman is hope. He is an immigrant, who was raised in a minuscule town in Kansas with good, honest values, that tries to live by those values everyday. He goes to the Big City to work a somewhat menial job, but he tries very hard and succeeds. The powers he has are actually a detriment for him. Noone beside Superman could live with his powers. Every single second would be a living hell. You have super hearing, you have to costantly filter what is important from everything else. If you breathe too much, you will murder everyone around you, if you loose your focus just for a second you could slice the room you are in with your heat vision, if you do anything with just a little too much force, you will break everything around you. Did you ever close a door with too much force because you were a bit angry? If Superman did it, the wall will fall down. So he is trying to fit in, trying to be a good man in a tough, crazy world, every day, just like all of us, but for him it's even harder. But he never loses hope in humanity. That is Superman. Despite being an alien, he's the most human of us all.
@@x-treme_gamer tbf, i think it is, but you can't decide what and how you hear it, so i always imagined he is so used to it that he can filter information. It's the same for us, we don't pay heed to the cars or the wind or the fridge, until we focus that sound out. What i wanted to point out is that Superman must always control himself, because canonically he could kill us all or destroy the planet if he really wanted to, but he never ever will because it's against what he believes in. It's been done in the comics and in the animation, the fact that superman could rule Earth with an iron fist, but he doesn't because he believes in the system, he believes in the good of humanity. There's your conflict, and sure not every story has to be about that, make a story about a giant gorilla with kryptonite vision, it's harmless fun. But mix it with a story where Superman has to choose between Lois Lane(or someone else he cares about) and an airplane full of people. Make some of them criminals too, to spice it up. Who will he save? Make a story about him saving astronauts in space(or under the sea, whatever), they can't speak or move too much, so while he is saving them,one of them who was trapped under some debris, goes unnoticed until the last moment, where you have Superman and the trapped guy look each other in the eye, both of them thinking:" you are Superman, and you didn't save me". He will have to live with that thought for the rest of his life.
This show in the first 2 episodes seems to embody exactly what Superman is, granted they added an anime style power up but the first two episodes seem to take new and old superman lore and make a pretty entertaining show with it. I hope it keeps it up.
I'll never forget watching the 90s Superman animated show. There was an episode where Supes gave a speech about good and evil, and I just remember my mom was in the kitchen and overheard it. She stopped what she was doing, came into the living room and asked what show I was watching. When I told her, she told me she WANTED me to keep watching that show because it had good moral characters. I realize now what she meant. Show like this CN one, not only destroy our nostalgia and icons, but eliminate role models for children.
Well, let's take a look at the morals here - Clark desperately wants to fit in, even to the point that he's afraid of using his powers for good. In teh same way, he lambasts Lois for having lied to them while his entire life is a constant lie to everyone else! Lois believes her hunches justify putting others in danger, she lies to her new interns, abuses their rust in her as the senior and can count herself lucky they weren't fired on the first day. For all she knows, Clark was buried by a shipping container being thrown at him by a weirdly Evangelion-look-alike robot - still, no accountability on her side, instead she's pissed that Clark doesn't come along with her and Jimmy for the second excursion. Clark's adoptive mother is trying to hinder her son when he - older version - feels ready to explore his legacy. Understandably as a child he was fraked out and they consoled him but as a young adult who wants to know - rather needs to know - where he comes from, only thing she considers is her fear of her son potentially changing; that was what puberty already was about or moving to Metropolis... Perry is not only an editor who has to deal with his journalists potentially going rogue, he is an adult taking care of interns - it is his damn responsibility to assess the potential risks adn after what they went through at the docks, he gives Lois a stern talking to but doesn't fire her for putting Jimmy and Clark in danger? Regarding moral values, I honestly find even less of them in this show's premiere episodes than story telling.
superman: now I know it's tough to turn down a dare but sometimes being brave means using your head and not doing something dangerous because someone dared you batman: you play chicken long enough, you fry
@@BigBossBernie Not defending the show because I haven't seen it yet. But I'm Confused isn't that an example of starting points for the characters to develop from. Clark Literally has that same fear/uncertainty of using his powers in Earth One Book. Granted it would be better to start off with Superman as Superman. but is it that bad if the Show lets the characters develop in basically a year one story.
I dont blame tomboy lovers who are in love with the lois lane design. I can see where they're coming from, but I still have an issue with her being Lois Lane.
But they only like tomboy look not the character itself. People on Twitter believe this version of Lois Lane is better than her 90s counterpart and that's total BS! These tomboy lovers are desperate because they want to have one
I dunno... I don't see MAwS's Lois as being that far off. She actually kind of reminds me of my all time favorite Lois Lane (Smallville's Lois Lane!) because she's an energetic, fast-talker with hard-headed determination. She's pushy but has a snarky affection for Clark, Perry, and Jimmy. Even the Smallville Lois could be considered a tomboy in season 4 when she dressed less feminine than Lana or Chloe.
That is how you represent Superman's insecurities and flaws correctly, this show tries way too hard to appeal to the lowest common denominator of viewership instead of actually paying homage to the character they're portraying.
I'm not the most knowledgeable about superman, but has there really been a time when superman couldn't save everybody or beat any threat? every DC content and death battle content puts him up as this omnipotent titan who's faster than thought and stronger than everyone but a reality warper
@@destroyallfurries Well in Post-Crisis, the guy sure as hell ain't this omnipotent titan you think of. Yeah, there's plenty of times where he could not save people...
Not gunna lie, I didn't like the artistic changes made. That style, with the black eyed Joker, felt like a step down. The stories were still great, don't get me wrong, but the original style was iconic!
Yeah they didnt have to race swap a character because they had characters like John Stewart. Who was a far better written character than everything they are putting out now.
I loved the Justice League Unlimited show growing up. Young Justice was good too (for a normie like me), because they didn't swap characters they just introduced new ones.
By the time he reached Metropolis he should of had very good control over his power. He shouldn't be making these mistakes. After all much of his powers started showing up in high school and earlier
@@crestofhonor2349 Originally, he had his powers pretty much as soon as he landed on Earth. The movie from the 70s includes a scene where he lifts up the back end of John Kent's truck when he's only about 3 years old.
Smallville is too complex for modern audiences. They had to retard it waaay back and then do this sailor moon look alike crap. Or they could have a mental breakdown on tiktok
Imagine turning Deathstroke into a Yaoi pretty boy voiced by Jerry from Rick and Morty. Not to mention giving Livewire the mental illness haircut. And of course, she is voiced by Zehra Fazal 🙄
I cannot unhear Cyril Figgis and Jerry from this voice, two incredibly dweeby characters, with heart but both prone to failure. Not the kind of voice or characterization I associate with Deathstroke. (I am not a big american comic guy but I know bits and bobs, read some comics and watched the good shows)
Seeing as how the people who wrote that terrible She-Ra reboot are also working on this show, it doesn’t really surprise me why this series ended up in it’s current state. But damn did they do Slade dirty.
That’s the worst part about it. After being rightfully rejected by others in their youth, they’ve now taken it upon themselves to inject themselves into every piece of media released to the public. These freaks should’ve died off already, but yet here we are 😩
@@VileGloryYep. That's how shallow they think people are. They have to think that way because the alternative is realising that no matter what medium they used, what is dogsht is everything they are on the inside. This isn't Superman, that boy isn't Lois, the black guy isn't Jimmy and if they want to stray so far from the original, they should make something new.
@@VileGlory Charaster designs are definitely a part of the appeal of anime, still only a part. And even then, I fail to see what is anime in My Adventues with Superman's character designs. I'm not that much into anime and I can tell it's a cheap knockoff that looks nothing like anime.
It's so weird that anime is more popular than ever in the West, but the best examples of western anime (Teen Titans, Avatar, etc.) are from like 20 years ago.
@firehaps, no offense but isn’t even weird, anime is very popular and that’s has nothing to be weird about, tell me you never watched anime and called anime is weird 🤦♀
The more they do this the more they convince me that it isn't about "modernizing" a character, but a systematic tearing down of the ideals that these characters are supposed to stand for.
Always has been and it's a concerted effort once you open your eyes to it it's amazing and terrifying what you see which is why many won't even when it's in front of them.
When you're asked "why is batman the bad guy" or whatever it was before being allowed to write about the character, I'd say it's definitely about tearing down iconic cultural icons.
I didn't know they did that to Deathstroke. I was planning on checking it out cause I heard some good things about it. Annoyance of black-washed Jimmy aside. They really Tumblr-fied him. They Tumblr-fied the whole show. If they really wanted something that campy, then I would have done a Supersons cartoon. Jon and Damien have such great chemistry and friendship and I would love to see them animated. You get childish Superboy/Jon trying to figure out who he is and how he fits as Superman's son, and the more seriousness of Damien who's experienced the darkness of humanity. It writes itself!
@@mikey.526 I largely disliked the Super Sons movie. They regressed Damien's character, again. Best I could describe him as the annoying version of a kid trying to be edgy. And Jon was just completely OOC. For him, I'll go with whiney. So I really don't think the characters bounced off of each other at all in that movie.
Look you could have kept the fear Superman has of letting loose and going all out. That “World made of Cardboard” speech from the Justice League animated series was moving and understandable.
Man, why can't they do superman justice. I am not asking another injustice superman which I am tired of that take of superman been done to death. But this is just generic anime 101. I want a balance of superman withholding his strength but also having his ideal challenge. The comic where superman cry becuase he couldn't save peope on time, when in all star superman where even when he was severely weaken and sick, he took the time to console a suicidal cancer patient girl to attempt to jump to a tall buildings or the scene on justice league of the cardboard. That for me is superman.
@@kyordannydelvalle523 MAWS Superman isnt actually that far off, if you watch the series. If anything you get the feeling he is still new to being a Super Hero. But he is still idealistic and gets that challenged from people that either got reasons to be distrustful towards Superman, like general Lane, or those who only understands selfish pragmatism like Dr.Ivo. This show might have some generic traits (much like Superman does in general, if we are going to be honest), but it's actually a great show with some nice romance and emotional stakes. Once you of course, look past the parts where this show takes a different approach from the original. Because although there are some interesting story beats based off Superman's lore, it's clear that isnt trying to be a straight adaption, and is more along the lines of an elseworld story that even references TAS among other Superman cartoons as alternative universes.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp This Superman is competent enough... Though if you want a show about a veteran Superman, there is always the live action Superman & Lois one.
The writers nowadays forget that Superman has a really nice mother and father, who loved him and instilled in him values and self respect. They think he's like them, a kid with absent parents who've been working all day and he's growing up without guidance being riddled with self doubt. Screw those writers.
They forget that he was already representing adopted kids. As the child of an adoptee, with a grandmother kinda like Ma Kent, I always appreciated seeing a loving family, being open about adoption. Takes a very loving woman, to have a 3 year old happy to help shovel cow manure 😂
Thats the whole point of what made Clark such a great person and Hero. How he was raised on his home in Smallville by his mom and dad. Sure he knows they arent his biological parents but he does not care as Jon and Marth Kent are his real parents in his eyes. Even Kara Zor El (Supergirl lives with Momma and Daddy Kent)
They got rid of Lois' signature blue-violet eyes and blackwashed Jimmy, then turned Livewire into that She-Ra androgynous abomination. We can already see that the staff's focus wasn't on telling a good story, but on changing the characters to fit their perceptions.
Simperman: “But this is an alternate universe so jimmy can be black.” That’s an argument I had with someone who likes this tshi. Blackwashing is still blackwashing!
I'm just amazed that they managed to make the owl house canon in the DC universe. They really wanted Luz and Gus to have a future in show biz didnt they?
That side-by-side comparison of "office chats" between Clark and Lois from the old days and now is astounding! It truly nails the difference about how grown-up were "cartoons for kids" back then, and how immature and ridiculous are things aired at midnight now. Characters behaving as if it's another high school "comedy" a-la Velma. Yuck. I have a very, very bad feeling about the animated LotR-themed series WB is currently making.
My brother was saying how this didn't bother him that much cause it's just a different version and there are all types of the different versions of Superman. To which I replied "Yes but this version is appealing to a type who doesn't read, doesn't like or doesn't even watch Superheroes. Let alone read any comics. All they do is write yaoi fan fiction on Tumbler" You should not pander to a crowd who has no respect for the medium they're adapting. Cause once you do, they get into it [which is how this thing is getting made in the first place] and then they change it and want it to always be this stuff. It's always gotta be CHANGED to fit THEIR OWN IDEAS cause the original/real one had something wrong with it. They don't understand the original or even like the original. So they'll fix it. Give them an inch and they take it all. Gate keep what you love.
Sadly, they've done this to everything but the most obscure properties I grew up loving. Hell, I'm terrified to mention the obscure stuff these days, because I don't want to lead to the destruction of it...
The idea of "it's another universe, so nothing matters" bogs down the intrigue of the source material as well. Look at what they did to Spider-Man. Spider-Man is now a generic set of powers and costume that you give to anyone. Not only that, they basically gave Spider-Man his own mini-team with characters like Miles and Spider-Gwen, which kind of undermines the point of Spider-Man in the first place. What makes Spider-Man cool if everyone can be Spider-Man if they just get a convenient radioactive spider bite? Mickey Mouse doesn't feel like a character because he's just a generic smiley cartoon that Disney plasters on everything. They've turned characters like Spider-Man into the Mickey Mouse of superheroes, and this show does more of the same for Superman.
@@flarestorm9417 think you just have a negative outlook and lost your way somewhere in life. Spiderman is supposed to be inspiring while you sound like a negative Nancy that doesn't believe in yourself. I hope things get better for you. Anything sounds smart if you boil it down to one specific thing, but that just shows how far your intellect goes. No offense. Anyone can be Spider-Man, but that doesn't make you peter Parker. Peter Parker himself just wants to help people not hog the glory. He would be in tears to know there are people who will take care of new York if he passes away. He's not immortal even with super powers. Part of growing up is learning to let go. Youth fades away and if you aren't ready you'll spend the rest of your old man years fighting for something that could have helped people instead. " I'm mad because you aren't consuming media the same way I am" instead of " here's a worthwhile story that could instill values and confidence in a person who Is struggling with becoming an adult while I've taken it for granted"
@@anon7596 nah i like the stetic of tomboys - not ever tomboy acts masculine - they can just like tipically boy stuff or have short hair - but i like some spunk girl too
It honestly feels like Cartoon Network did not know what to do with this show. Apparently what’s happening is that Warner Media is now trying to make the main cartoon Network block appeal to 7 year olds and younger. This show originally was going to appear on the main network before Warner decided that the show was most likely “too violent”. So they instead decided to put it on the Toonami block which starts at around midnight on Saturdays or placed it at midnight in order to kill it. Either way the show was definitely made for children considering the bare minimum violence and use of toyetic character designs for Superman and the shows antagonists.
@@ItsAGundam They’ve already approved another season?! 😂 I still can’t believe that they kept this show and cancelled the new Batman animated series that was being produced by Matt Reeves. It’s their loss tho since apparently that show is going to Amazon which will sit alongside The Boys and Invincible.
The art style kind of reminds me of Netflix's "She-Ra" and "Voltron: Legendary Defenders", and Amazon Prime's "Invincible" combined. And I agree with you on what they did with Livewire in this show, they have the idea of making this show to be modern and yet they ruined it while making her to be some armed illegal drug dealer and not some online influencer or podcast streamer. They must be really obsessed with the futuristic cyberpunk design for her while trying to make a show to be in modern times yet it doesn't blend in with the modern times era.
It has that soulless "anime-inspired" art style that has been around since at least Legend of Korra. I blame that show for this god-awful trend in western animation.
It's funny you mention she-ra, considering one of the producers is josie campbell, someone who worked on she ra. Should also explain why the show is the way it is
@@JonnyHorseman At least that filth known as The Legend of Korra has a good soundtrack and it used the Korean animation studios for all their worth, these people didn't bother with...anything.
Well, no. In the 90s and early 2000s, *some* sparse children's shows treated kids like they were intelligent, rather than drooling dullards - Gargoyles, Batman TAS, Justice League, Beast Wars, Cybersix, etc. - and included elements that could be enjoyed by adults and children alike, appreciated on diverse levels. The majority of them were forgettable trash, and everything from the 80s were enjoyable toy commercials with almost no depth, even those that we remember fondly. Try watching any two random episodes of the 1980s Transformers. They're utterly juvenile. We recall the former simply because they were outstanding. This, like most material produced these days, treats kids as dumb. But they're right to do that, in some ways, because kids are stupider than ever.
@@donutbevil9669So us 90's kids are some sort of Ubermensch.... because of cartoons. Imagine Teen Titan's Slade in ANY TV show nowadays. The psychological trauma would be immense. These children would lose all their sanity. They'd go from puppies and unicorns, to meeting Mr. Horrorshow himself.
*"Deafeat me with heat beams? You're crazy, cuz I'm a Super Saiyan while you're flying miss Daisy! You're pretty pasty to be powered by the sun, you can't float to Son Goku, cuz I Kaioken get it done!"* You'd be surprised how many people are impressed when you bust this out! Gets that good geek street cred 😂 especially when you have Goku tatted on your arm (DragonBall days).
I love how if you remove the intro and outro from Z the runtime of the show is almost half. I also love the idea that the reaction cuts are basically the plot besides the fights. I also like how everytime they wish no one has wished that no one had powers or could endanger whole planets or life in the universe. I also really like the version of the show that uses swords, they called it bleach
@rallyfeind making a wish that big is impossible at least with dragon balls made by mortals. That would be beyond Kami/Dende's power as well as Guru. The dragon can only do a wish that does not exceed their creator's power.
"Hey, goku - how many forms are you up to now; like, 237 or something..? Shame your writers seem to confuse 'character development' with handing out new powers like candy bars... sh*t - even **VEGETA** has a better arc than you!!
Remember when Superman was stuck in a part of the galaxy with no stars and eternal darkness so he had to wander before losing strength and finally found stars and flew through each one, powering up before landing a time-tranceding punch? Wouldn't you like to see that animated? Wishful thinking
They took Superman and made him into Spider-Man, in terms of personality. The insecurity, the babbling, the nerd-ing out; it's all just Spider-Man 24/7 for the character, and it's such a bad way to do Superman as an adult. For Spider-Man, it makes sense that he would be like that because he goes through human struggles despite his powers. He's always struggled with insecurity, which is why he is always joking and babbling. But for Superman, he's a superpowered individual who is more like a god living among and like the rest of us. Plus, Clark had a little over a decade to learn about his powers and finding out who he is as a person. Peter was given these powers immediately as a teen, just about to crossover into adulthood.
I realized recently why it is that race swapping always bothered. I come from Puerto Rico and my family is very mixed, having Black, Native, Spaniards blood and a few others. I loved John Stewart's GL from JLU, Cyborg from Teen Titans and so on. I kept up with the characters and read all the comics and I loved every moment with them. And this is what I realized: A character that is race swapped can never have that. If your favorite depiction of a character isn't the original and you go back you realize they weren't what you thought they were, it divides you from what you liked. How can you enjoy Hawkman in movies if you can't go back and connect with him? They might as well have been a completely new characters.
for a number of fans who are annoyed with the whole race swap thing including myself. We regularly pull out the "they should just be a new character" card.
Exactly. If you want hero’s of color, there are plenty in comics who haven’t had there stories explored (Blue Beatle, Bronze Tiger, Firestorm, etc). As well as previous colored hero’s who could be brought back for modern audiences (Blade, Spawn, Static Shock). Idk, just feels weird having to color wash characters when there are so many good stories that don’t need any changes to them.
@@samuellindsey6379 Well, we are getting a blue beetle movie. Gag me. After what's been done to almost all these characters in the comics, i really don't want to see animated versions of that.
Feel like this version of Lois Lane is designed so that Twitter/Tumblr type can see her as a anime pretty boy or trans so in their mind they can fantasized that Superman in a gay relationship. It a trend they seams to do alot.
Dammit, that's probably it. I kinda like her having a tomboy look, but when they make her that flat... I thought from some of the distant shots, that Supe had gone gay.
Considering that she looks like a grown-up version of Luz from the Owl House, it checks out. I never saw much of that show, but it is loved by the Tumblr crowd a lot.
This is a perfect example of how American culture has devolved in the last few decades. A cartoon made for kids in the 90s is much more refined and mature than a cartoon made for "adults" in 2023.
That’s because kids in the 90s were still expected to grow up. Kids in the 2020s are only expected to grow older. You have a lot of 20 and 30 something “adults” in the current West who grew up in a toxic environment where comfort and safety was the ideal whilst ambition, bravery, and hard work were denigrated. Let alone the toxic race and sex rhetoric. The result is a bunch of physically adult but mentally damaged people who never made the normal, healthy transition from childhood to adult independence and self reliance. Instead they’re stuck in some messy perpetual teenager state, whitener it’s daddy issues, cynical edge-lord type BS, or a kind of whiny childishness.
My Adventures with Superman is made for 10 year olds. It's meant to be a children's cartoon. It's also unfair to compare some of the greatest cartoons in history in the DCAU to bog average things like My Adventures with Superman. One set of series revolutionizes what is possible in children's' animation. The other does not. Compare it to some forgotten bloatware from the 90s, like, I don't know, Street Sharks, and you've got a more fair parallel.
And how can you explain the audience scores then, hmm? He isn't just a guy saying a world from aliens, but also to what is like to be a hero to save others innocent lives.
i feel the same way about thor movies thor 1 odin sends him to earth to find himself thor 2 he declines the throne because he still needs to find himself thor 3 he still needs to find himself after losing his hammer thor 4 still needs to find himself and now he has lose all that holiday weight i mean come on thor you have had like 1500 years
Listen, all ill say. *ALL ILL SAY.* Is that new Lois hits those long forgotten Tomboy vibes we all miss having around. Yea, it's a shame they couldn't ya know, write someone new in and add her in, but ill take a tomboy over every other self insert we've had in the last 10 years.
The vein of the character and its foundation is around her femeninity. If you lived in the 90s you could easily see how truly sexy Louis was a strong independent woman that paved her way in a male dominated world, intelligent, witty, and highly confident. But modern writers are unable to see undertones and subleties. They are not visionaries; modern writers are blind.
@@Cloutweb1 I mean I get that man, but still it could be worse. You literally never seen the tomboy look in media anymore that's not attached to like 27 alphabet letters and 16 genders like some baskin robins treat of the week. While it dosen't capture the strong girlboss energy, it's not Susan from the boiler room who somehow inherits Superman's power and does his job but better.
Am I the only one who finds it weird with how they're handling Clark's powers? Like they made it so that he "unlocks" his abilities every episode like a video game character. Part of what makes him great was being able to control his many abilities from the start (heat vision, super hearing, x-ray vision, etc...) but it's like I'm watching Invincible rather than Superman with how they're handling his abilities.
Which ties into my other point. That's, Shazam! Shazam has the power glows henshin hero power set that he controls independently, has to master in turn, and can be removed or replaced. They wanted to make a Shazam show!
I mean, it worked pretty well for Smallville. Though, I think he’s a bit old for the “unlocking his powers” trope. They showed him getting super strength and flight as about a 10 year old, how does he not have control of it after a decade of practice? Either he should be younger or his powers shouldn’t have appeared until he was a bit older.
@@PanelVulture Evolving abilities over time is one thing, this feels like he's unlocking them like a video game. When his eyes light up you can almost see the UI saying 'New Ability!' with a short video tutorial on how to use the Megaton Punch command.
“If Guts and Casca got together…” So basically lose one of the major plot points and subtle themes about Berserk, makes 100% sense. It’s like saying, “Let’s do Star Wars, but have the concept of Anakin and Luke being each other’s foil thrown out the window.”
Seriously man, that was really just an innocent comment made by a fan of Berserk that thought that this series was almost like watching Guts and Casca have a happy ending together... Which can be nice to the heart, considering the horrible stuff they go through. To think that this somehow "misses the point of the characters", is to miss the point of the comment.
They already have prewritten stories that are amazing. All they have to do is animate them. Not only are they ripping off super man they're ripping off the art style. Insane
@@AngelSaintCloudsuch a retarded argument. Oh this Resturaunt is serving shit food? Make your own REEEE! You could just get an actual argument that’s not inherently childish and pathetic, but that would be too much work and thinking, right? Sit down.
@@marcelberes469he has none. People who make this argument have no point to make. It’s just copium from a snowflake who can’t take criticism. Nothing more.
The art style is giving me war flash backs of High Guardian Spice. That's not to say that western shows can't mimic anime but when it fails it comes of cringey as hell.
It's like those "writers" only watched sailor moon, demon slayer, mha, & rom com anime and just go like "inspiration!" Then they proceed to go diarrhea on their notes, and it just comes off as uninspired and lazy.
@@veggsbacon1891 Honestly it's kinda sad because a story about Clark Kent figuring out who he is and what he's meant to do with his powers could work. But the story needed to be set when he was just going through puberty and have that be when his powers started to emerge NOT when he's an adult.
Cause if the writers finally figured out why they can't be "normal" and just lived their lives, they'd no longer have what they think is a personality.
@TheTGOAC it's just that it's the Go To gag for sooo much of all of this content for 20 or more years. I get that it's a common device to lay out and establish the rules in each new thing. But my God, the omg so random, "I just want to be normal" bull shit has to stop. You see it in comics, tv, cartoons, movies (especially every marvel orgin movie), games, etc etc It's then followed up with a "I didn't want any of this". I'm just a kid. Fuck that. Kids imagine themselves as great huge embellished things all the time. How about a character embrace and celebrate their specialness.
because u need a character to struggle tbh the one REALLY bad thing about superman is he is OP his only weakness is a SUPER rare crystal and even if he dies he can just be revived it makes him not interested for most people
@admiralkaede anyone who has ever read many superman comics or watched the 90s cartoon or JL cartoons knows that's not the case. I've been hearing some version of that topic for 20 plus years. What is this based on? People just remember the first 2 superman movies from 40+ years ago and don't consider things aren't the same?
@@BirchTheGreat not many people read comics and I'm one of them but still I've seen a lot of the movies and even some of the cartoons they are good but I do for sure think there is some rose tinted goggles for sure on them also a double standard when things like young justice changed how he acted but people didn't claim it was "erasing a legend"
wow, back in my early 20's adult swim at midnight had cowboy bebop, big o, trigun, wolf's rain, flcl, blue gender, ghost in the shell: sac, witch hunter robin, and inuyasha are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. It's what literally got me into anime. this new adult swim is terrible looking.
I loved the Superman Animated Series. I'm not even a Superman fan and I loved that series. Mercy Graves also came from that show, voiced by Lisa Edelstein.
I’m actually going to take a contrary opinion so far and say that I’ve really, really been enjoying the new Superman show. Clark and Lois have excellent chemistry and genuinely seem to like each other as people. Clark’s fundamental character trait is that he’s a good person that will always try to help people in any situation - which is something that recent DC has struggled with and this show nails. Superman not fully understanding his powers makes sense given that he has no training, and can’t understand the Kryptoponian language instructions his dad left him. The initial lack of powers allows for Superman to grow over the course of the series and sets up a natural escalation of stakes - we get to see him learn and grow as a character, which is one of my favorite points of story telling. Finally, Supes actually has a back bone and his arguments with Lois feel like they have genuine weight and a back and forth quality - they’re both flawed and occasionally immature characters but the narrative never elevates one or undermines the other and their mistakes feel very natural based on who they are. Yes, Superman is boyish and a little awkward, and yes the characters are more immature than previous iterations - I honestly don’t mind that. I actually really like seeing the group in their earlier years before they’re totally established, as it’s a new perspective on the characters. Tomboy Lois also works for me - it doesn’t detract from the feminine appeal of the character. Maybe it’s just a difference in perspective but I think the show oozes charm and it’s one of the best things I’ve watched in a long time.
@@darknessrising2453 i'm not even watching the review just finished it and was really happy with it anyone sleeping on it should finish it atleast. hits a lot of the story beats snyder failed to do and hey look we didn't need a dark tone to do it
You haven't lost all hope by now? Seriously I'm just waiting for all these people to be jettisoned from the industry before I so much as glance in DC's general direction.
This would have been fine if it wasn't tied to a preexisting property. My heart really goes out to the artists who took on the project. They could only work with what was given to them. They make bomb af art.
@@hesklairvoyantI mean, how would you feel if that elseworld existed just to say, "The people you know and love, across *all* the multiverse?? They're shit, now, we don't care what they *were,* because now they're politically correct! And you have to accept that or you're the evil of society and everyone hates you for existing."
Atrazine really is in most water supplies, and it does turn a large percentage of exposed male amphibians into female amphibians. Alex may not always be the most charming with his phrasing of things, but the man is based.
He actually said in an interview that he chose the wording on purpose because everyone knows the clip of him screaming about gay frogs but if he just sat there and talked about atrazine nobody would care.
I have a few minor gripes, but I’m interested in Clark’s development as well as Kryptonian lore. With the potential leaks I’ve read, I can say they seem interesting on paper. Just have to see the execution.
I will admit that I like this Lois' tomboy design but she looks so different that I wish they just made her, Livewire and Jimmy brand new characters. I want to see new characters not race swaps.
Yeah that's what i think too, pretty much. It's not an awful design, and from what i've seen they at least made her decently cute, feminine and even dainty. But it's not Lois... This isn't "alternate universe", this is "alternate franchise"... Livewire wouldn't look out of place in some kind of cyberpunk show, and her masculine appearance is only really a problem next to the feminized men of this show... If the men where manlier looking, she would look quite nice in context. Sharp features can work on women (especially cartoons), absolutely, and the dark skin adds to that almost exotic look. But it ain't livewire...
It's not Lois tomboy. It's a boy. I look at pictures of that animated show and I see Boys' Love/yaoi. I was a fujoshi. That's 1000% BL art style and how Western artists have been drawing BL when the genre started becoming so popular that online Western BL comic artists were striving to become pros, gaining a following via deviantart, tumblr and other social media. Girls who despise girls, drawing tomgirl boys as substitutes of themselves to be the bottom of a pairing with a blushing hunky top. But the couples are so saccharine sweet, they are just girlies drawn with pseudo penises.
Going for the “who am I” thing with Superman of all characters is just hilarious. The writers did all the check mark bullshit like butchering Lois, and ruining Jimmy, and just emasculating Clark. All before writing the damn plot. Because of course you can’t have the male lead to already understand himself and uses his power to help others. Nah he needs two tumblr self inserts to guide him to fight other tumblr self inserts.
I don't care about the show, but I do appreciate the tomboy Lois Lane art people are spitting out. Other than that, they succeeded in somehow making Clark Kent look like a buff twink, as paradoxical as that sounds.
I thought people were liking it… then I remember I was on the Super Best Friends Subreddit and only seeing horny posting of Lois being a tan short hair Tomboy. Nobody was talking about the show, just that she looked cute.
@@statesminds both the Constantine movies were solid. The batman long halloween was also excellent. And even the recent batman and superman movie that focused on their sons wasn't as Cringe as I expected it to be. In general the consensus has been that the animated DC movies are where the good content is and the live action has been booty aside from one or two things.
The show seems inspired by anime but only aesthetically. Anime is liked because Japan treats the medium of animation with dignity and respect so they can tell their stories competently. Not because of its looks which is a secondary characteristic. In the west or at least in North American media, animation is viewed as mainly entertainment “for kids” thus it is seen as more of a genre. Secondly since it’s a seen as a medium there is a gigantic plethora of potential stories to be told and express ideas that would not be viable or possible in live action. We also prioritise star power by building up one form acting over others (voice acting) and consequently the art form does not get recognised as much.
It's anime cal-arts of what was thought as "COOL" in the 90's: the mullets, mushroom tops, sailor moon, flashy transformation, the weird 90's villains. It's like they grew up failing to grasp what was good/bad and only went for the parts that everyone laughed at and then lathered a heavy dose of "modern audience".
A "self insert" sounds like exactly what is happening here. they just keep inserting things into themselves until they are satisfied with the mess they've made.
Of they don't read the comics, they really don't have a concept of what good parenting is, and tbf most people nowadays can only dream of what being having two loving parents is like, most people nowadays grow up in broken household and either a single over worked mom, or two abusive parents who hate each other and couldn't care less about their kids, some times I see things like this and it makes me feel sad, it's sad that growing up in a loving home by with two loving parents is soo much of a luxury, not even rich kids get to have that, it's just depressing 😢
With the whole raceswap debacle these days, I've been asking myself "how much can you change a character before they stop being that character?". And it's not just about the skin mind you, looking back there are iterations of characters I'd argue could have been a completely new person even without a raceswap (like when they made April from TMNT a teenage girl with psychic powers for example). A lot of these new takes have so little in common with the original character that they might as well just change name and nobody would even know who they were intended to be (that Limewire here might be a prime example). I haven't watched this show (or cared much about it tbh) but I've seen a strange amount of people talking about how they love the new Lois for essentially being Luz from Owl House, which kinda raises the question: do they actually love the new Lois, or do they just love Luz so much that they'll plaster her over other existing characters?
This is at least the third black Jimmy Olsen DC has had now. - He was a big buff black guy who was Jimmy Olsen in name only in the CW Supergirl show. - In a recent "Super Sons" CGI animated movie had a black Jimmy. In this one at least you could tell who the character was supposed to be. He looked like a black palette swap of the classic version of Jimmy. In addition to the race swaps, Zack Snyder gender-swapped him into "Jenny Olsen" in Man of Steel. Then I guess he forgot he did that and "Jimmy Olsen" showed up for a few seconds as an FBI agent or something and then he was immediately killed in another movie.
The weirdos only like the idea of Lois Lane being a tomboy. I've seen so many thirsty simps on Twitter desperate to have a tomboy girlfriend and they believe this Lois Lane is better than her 90s counterpart
The casting director for this show was on something else. Jack Quaid just cannot hit the gravitas of Superman, even as a younger version of Clark. I recently enjoyed his brief cameo as Peter in Spider verse and thought that casting was a great call, but this Superman is not it. And Jesus Christ… Deathstroke. Fuck me. Deathstroke has a history of being played by some of the coldest fucking voices in the industry. Ron Pearlman, Michael Ironside, Mark Rolston, and I kid you not, they cast fucking JERRY FROM RICK AND MORTY. I don’t wanna limit Chris Parnell to goofy characters like he plays in R&M, and Archer, but making the jump to Deathstroke? It’s just a major miscast. As for the animation, western animation created iconic but suitable animation styles to create dynamic and budget friendly animation. Styles like Bruce Timm’s, David Silva’s, Glenn Murakami and Derrick J Wyatt. This attempt at anime is just trying to grab aesthetics from a style that western animation companies are not going to provide the budget to pull off. Anime pulls this off because of a ridiculous work structure for its employees, but shitty business ethics aside, they pull it off in a way western companies outside of classic cinematic Disney productions can’t pull off.
wait hes from R&M and archer? I thought i recognized the voice. Yeah this is one hell of a miscast he should have been given a kind of middle ground position first to see if he can handle the difference.
My sister was the one who told me that was Deathstroke. I didn't believe her because her reasoning was "his hair is covering one of his eyes". I gave her ten bucks a few days later.
@@fernandogonzales9240 If I am Slade, imma fight Rick. Take Rick's insane plot armor away, and throw him in with Teen Titan's Slade. It would be a sight.
I'm currently a animation major and there's a certain graphic novel I would love to adapt in my career someday. However with this trend going on it worries me that it will fall to the wrong hands and forced to change something that's against the vision I have. I hope this won't be the case if I do have a opportunity to adapt that novel someday
Thats why i stick to the 90s cartoons . X-men was awesome and was close to the comics while still being very well written and handled kids like normal people . 90s Spiderman was awesome and had really dark topics too that made you think about the consequences and the perspectives of those villians that were once normal people before they turn into those villians in all their monstrosity. 90s Hulk was an eye-opener how such huge and destructive power can be also a very huge burden to a person . And you saw what happens when unhinged , untamed pure destructive rage turned Bruce Benner into , which begs many questions about bruce benners destination and if he will be get rid of this monumental burde. that he got thanks to the gamma-experiment . That was a show where you gotta empathise with Bruce Benner and hope that his nightmare has an actual end . Oh yeah and She-hulk was my first crush as a kiddo . Its really sad how story- and Character-writing nowadays getting rotten and insultingly stupid that watching it is more like getting tortured woth boredom .
@@mgshock That Intro alone with that mullet and the creation of the iron-man suit was stuff of legends . And that music .... holy moly , that was badass !
Back then at least there was passion and people with skill and experience for the tasks of making a good Story. Now? They think that because they have a Popular IP, they can just go and throw the most garbage Agenda infested script and get the attention and fame.
"The only people who still watch TV are Boomers. Everyone else is on the internet." - RGE He's right, for the most part. When I heard about this show being on Adult Swim and people complaining about the timeline choice, my reaction was, "People still watch TV?"
Yeah it's completely true. Cartoon Network itself has no viewers, really. It's gotten so bad over the years that they gave 2 more hours to Adult Swim programming, which split the channel into exactly a half for each starting next month.
Deathstroke having Jerry Smith's voice is just so weird that it made me laugh when I first heard him talk. They should have just gotten Ron Pearlman back as Deathstroke, that voice is really intimidating.
Nah fr tho. Chris parnell is a good voice actor But from someone who voices cyril from archer and jerry from rick and morty. Who are pretty much the same. U can't expect anyone to find that intimidating lmao
@@HelpMePls320 he’s part of Batman’s rogues gallery but he also fights against the teen titans. Him and superman have never had any meaningful interaction iirc
Nothin, but is not liking it normal aswell? The internet sure does portray that, idk why, this some weird situation goin on If u like it, people agree, if not, they still agree, the show what I say is pretty subjective rn.
I like it too. I just finished season 1 and I found it to be such a heartfelt and fun show with good storytelling and pacing. Gundam is just a bitter old man who become stuck in hating modern media to the point that when something actually good is made, he hates it too.
They are always trying to write superman as vulnerable. They don't realize that his invulnerability, his strength, both physical and in character are why Superman is great. He understands the same lesson that made Spiderman famous. He has the ability for greatness and because of that, he must be great.
@Chainmastress34 So, acting like a confused "male" Californian hipster makes him interesting. Also, let me guess, you're spamming the comments defending this show. Wow, how predictable.
I can at least buy this version because it's his first time being superman. Also. Superman at heart is Clark Kent. Something most Movies keep missing. Clark Kent isn't the Disguise. It's the Person. Superman is the Uniform.
@Chainmastress34 He is the caricature everyone who never read Superman think Clark Kent is. Clark is kinda of dork sometimes, but not a pussie or indecise.
What itsagundam said about updating livewire is what they really did to her in the comic, they updated her from a radio shockjock to a RUclipsr/streamer
I mean honestly that makes sense since DC has a habit of rebooting every other year and if the settia meant to be modern day than Livewire should be a streamer of some kind because who under the age of 50 still listens to the radio anymore when there's so many better alternatives
I know they did that in the MCU with J Jonah Jameson. They turned him into Alex Jones and it actually worked. Mainly cause JK Simmons nails Alex’ mannerisms
That’s not really true. Batman 1989 changed for modern audiences were ready for a more gothic version of Batman since The Adam West TV Show in 1966 which ended up changing how people viewed the character in the public eye. Changing something that has potential to be better than what it is isn’t a bad idea, JUST HAVE GOOD VISIONS.
They started off so well, then restarted *fundamental causality* by *_eternally cucking one of the best characters!_* There is literally no recovering from that.
Not to meat ride the show or anything but just because you're born somewhere doesn't mean you know who you are Clark clearly has had these issues as a child
@@HaruWuu no I'm not a big superman fan but that doesn't mean I don't know the basics I'm just saying specifically in this show, this specific timeline Clark has had these issues as a child and it never surfaced until adulthood because he was afraid of where he came from
@@kadewade8726 okay, He knows who he is. Not what he is. That has always been Superman lore. If you want to watch a show with the same aspect as the show. Watch Smallville. It's live-action. But it's the same as Clark trying to figure himself out.
Clark became a reporter to hear stories of people in trouble so that he could go help them as Superman. They couldn't even figure that part out, damn. And I won't even get started on what modernization does to Lois. Edit: I just hit the Slade Wilson part of your video. Holy shit.
@Chainmastress34How is the Lois Lane from the 90’s cartoon boring? This new Lois Lane is annoying and reminds me to much of other “quirky” girl protagonist like that annoying brat from Owl House.
@@mdtisthebest6249 This new Lois is pretty much Luz from Owl House, who is such a cookie cutter "u go gurl" from California _trying_ to be relatable. The 90s Lois actually had sass. An actual archetype of the strong woman who gives as good as she gets. Chainmastress and BlechB are just two of the trolls I've spotted from twitter.
In Lauren Faust's take of DC Superhero Girls, Louis is also somewhat tomboyish, (scruffy?) Although, when she is introduced, you are shown her Annuary Photo with is more accurate to her classic look, as if they were saying that she is so dedicated to journalism (she is the director of Metropolis High newspaper) that she doesn't take much care of her appearance, Livewire also appears in this show, Her civilian outfit looks like it was designed by Jhonen Vasquez, just plain cool, and in this one, she is actually a blogger, for Gossip/Fails more than anything, considering the set-up. But she is.
Exactly, show me the Super Hero girls designs I can tell who they are. Show me the this show character designs I would be scratching my head. They even made livewire an influencer. These people are so lazy they couldn’t even look at a better made show and copy that. It was right there.
@@MrSophire I actually don't remember much about the original, as the Superman show was somewhat boring to me (as a child, mind you, as an adult I probably enjoy it a lot more) but the moment Gundam suggested she should be some blogger I thought to myself _"Wow... The writers were more educated on the material that the show deserved"_ I mean, it's obviously an Else World, but it still has respect for the source Material.
@@prot07ype87 She worked with on classics such as The Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, so she js skillful on girl stuff that appeals to everyone, DC Superhero Girls is no exception, they managd to make at least some of the girls, pretty much counterparts of the mane six, particularly Bumblebee is this show's Fluttershy and Zatana is this universe Rarity. Give it a try, if you haven't, at the very least the first season.
I think one of the worst choices Adventures made was making the main trio amateur interns as opposed to being vets at their job. The DCAU versions were experienced and had been working at the Planet for years (Well, Lois at least had) whereas these new versions are basically fresh off the street; presumably to push the self-discovery angle. It makes most of these characters insufferable because they're not role models or intriguing specimens but generic anime archetypes that are easier to shove into roles. Without the perspective of their older variants, the trio are (basically) just kids and as such have the younger, manchild-like dynamics people're getting so sick of. (IE: One of the mistakes Velma made, other than existing) I actually like how they're doing Clark here, all things considered. (emphasis on "all things considered") But, Lois is just a generic tomboy now and Jimmy's straight-up insufferable. It's very "hashtag relatable." Like you said, it's trying too hard to be a western Anime and because of that's it's not making the best impression.
Agreed. I found Clark to be the best characterization of the three. You get the “Clark is who I am, Superman is what I do vibe” from him. Lois is too peppy and upbeat.
That is quite the thing to think about when a person is a superhero. It *would* take a lot of self control and mature responsibility to control the sort of powers Superman has. He has to not only handle them carefully and wisely when he is using them in full use as Superman, but he has to even be more careful when he is Clark, who is supposed to be merely full human. In any case he has to be careful not to unintentionally kill or hurt anybody.
Honestly having watched the show, I think you're just being overly cynical towards it, Gundam. The animation is ass and the writing isn't great but I do think the relationship aspect of the show is pretty wholesome and adorable. And we're missing that a lot in western media these days. Not everything superman related has to be balls to the wall action and him saving people, it's also important to show his development in his early years and how he matures not only into the cape, but into the glasses as well. Still love your stuff tho Gundam keep up the good work
His channel is entirely made of outrage bait. It's kind of his job to be overly cynical and negative towards everything. He knows that's what pays the bills, nobody would watch him if he was positively reviewing media he liked or enjoyed, people enjoy him being annoyed and shitting on stuff. That's the thing with these copy and paste outrage channels, once they get popular they can never talk about stuff they like again, only stuff they don't.
@luisyupari I don't agree with his takes on everything, a lot of these shows and movies he talks about aren't really as bad as he makes them out to be. But when it comes to the social media drama and gaming news he's pretty justified in his cynicism.
It's odd they think he needs to "power up" when superman needs to "power down" to survive around people. Even as nerfed as the animated superman was they had the whole "Its like living in a world made of cardboard, always afraid i'd break something, someONE" This superman "uwu i got punchy by a roobutt, it hurty"
The one thing I hate the most about this show so far is the running gag of him not able to control his strength. He learned about his abilities when he was young so by time, he became an adult he had control over it.
@@AngelSaintCloudHercules was in full control of his strength by adulthood, so what's Clark's deal? Can an alien not live up to the mental maturity of a God? Lol
Because his powers are actively in flux for reasons that haven't yet been explained but, based on visual cues, appear to be related to the development of "Superman Blue/Red" style changes that are emerging.
I was scratching my brain on who was voicing Death Stroke then I realized it's Chris Parnell...Jerry Smith, and Cyrill Figgus. Not my first choice when deciding on a sinister villain like death stroke. Guess WB was too poor to get Ron Pearlman.
Shows like this are the reason I just show my kids the cartoons from the late 90s and early 00s that I grew up with. Between shows like Justice League, X-Men, TMNT (03), Static shock, Teen Titans, Avatar, etc, etc. There really isn't much point in letting my kids watch, or even read most of the modern stuff.
@@okayitsdead6631 I should have clarified, I meant remakes and re imagined shows. But you have to admit, Gravity Falls is not comparable to the majority of shows that have come out in the past decade.
@TheKeller101 No, we need to objectively review what's coming out and give honest opinions, especially if we have kids so that we can ensure they don't have low effort, low brow cash grabs masquerading as content for children. It's purely about monitoring influences.
The funny thing to me is you could have said the Power of Shazam 'works' like One For All, because... it kind of does. Billy Batson was a henshin hero decades before Power Rangers was a thing. But the one they decide to make a crummy anime adaption of was Superman. Whose powers never came with speedlines, ominous glows, or rippling fields of visible energy.
I watched the first episode of this show, and it felt like it was written for kids who don't understand the English language yet. The plotline is so incredibly dumbed down it's like they don't trust the "intended audience" to understand the plot unless it's directly spelled out for them.
The original Teen Titans show emulated anime better. Most of the time, this show felt like a kids show. Very light-hearted and quirky humor is prevalent throughout it. Like isn't this made for adults? I don't think Superman: The Animated Series has this kind of humor, and that was actually made for kids. I didn't like the villain designs and the relationship between Clark and Lois moved way too fast. At least it isn't Snyder's version I guess...
I can't ever remember bad Cell animation on Dragon Ball. I Remember reused covers with new background. They did this a lot with 18 and Majin Buu. The different is, it never looked bad. Super Man looks awful in this style.
This seems like one of those shows in universe that people made as a way to market the hero. I can just imagine Superman from TAS watching this and saying "At least the kids like it, right?"
@@xXJLNINJAXx The film opens with a silly cartoon where Superman traps 2 vandals with a net following with "Crime doesn't pay", with Lois sayin the show is crap to which Clark responds "it's for charity at least" or something like that. Really good film with a great Superman
Coming back to this after a month. Firstly, the show is amazing. It really understands who Superman is as a character, not to mention Lois. The animation is charming, the writing is solid, the voice acting is good, some of those action scenes are great, and it all seems to get better as the show goes on. Mind you, I thought it was good from day one. Honestly, a great show, with a great Superman. I've never been more glad for a show to get a second season.
It would be a ludicrous theory if the blackwashing of ginger characters wasnt so prevalent in western media. Like good lord, leave them alone hollywood.
Not this version of Clark, this Clark was afraid of his alien side, so he stopped pushing his abilities. He also doesn't really know what is Krypton or who his birth parents were.
@Horacio_Poggi but in the show, he literally speaks with his Father Jar-El at Kent Farm before he goes to Metropolis. So how does that make sense, and also, in every story of Superman, he has always had a sense of duty to protect those weaker then himself.
@sadimasochist4543 Clark couldn't understand him because Jor-El was only speaking kryptonian. He is only now as a young adult, starting to discover more about his alien heritage. This version of Clark was helping people in secret. It is only now that he is in Metropolis that he is revealing himself to the world.
@@sadimasochist4543 No. He hasn't spoken to his father since he was ten years old, and only did so at 20, after his first battle, in episode 2 - without being able to understand almost anything that Jor-El tries to explain to him because they do not speak the same language. I wish that people would actually watch the shows that they critique.
You know what’s funny that Batman the animated series and the follow up the new adventures of Batman were also for kids but were as dark as it got but still respects the intelligence of the viewer
If you watch the animated series you know what I’m talking it’s hard to put it into words for me but it does show don’t tell and even respects the character of Batman and doesn’t rewrite him to be who am I or the self Journey
@@toddbata8644 I have multiple times, debatable to a certain degree as they did change certain things but still respect the heart of the character, but go into detail of how this doesn't respect human intelligence.
@@toddbata8644 I have seen it and can you provide me evidence of it's show don't tell story writing exactly? Because I've only had seen scenes where you are just able to read a character before they even open their mouths. That's debatable as they did rewrite Batman in that series compared to the comics and lore but they still stayed true to the character. Can you provide me examples of how how this show doesn't?
The sad thing is, I've always wanted an animated Superman show about Clark trying to 'be normal' and not let his powers get out of hand- as if to show that being Superman and crushing supervillains is the easy part of his life, but being Clark Kent and opening doors or shaking hands is the real challenge in his life. But this is... bad.
@@michaelquaid4679 At least pretend to have watched the show that you're criticizing. i.ibb.co/HXSwFCJ/Un4334titled.png nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/NYPICHPDPICT000013326227.jpg i.pinimg.com/750x/7b/4f/9b/7b4f9b39eb458b7c356a3dd3297fe267.jpg
Or think clark is hot. And this show is very focused on these two, so it makes sense for the attractiveness of both be the selling point to an extent. But also people are happy to have a not edgy superman. That honestly the biggest one.
The issue, among others, is that the people who write Superman don't understand Superman. (Not talking about golden age Superman, what Superman is now). Superman is hope. He is an immigrant, who was raised in a minuscule town in Kansas with good, honest values, that tries to live by those values everyday. He goes to the Big City to work a somewhat menial job, but he tries very hard and succeeds. The powers he has are actually a detriment for him. Noone beside Superman could live with his powers. Every single second would be a living hell. You have super hearing, you have to costantly filter what is important from everything else. If you breathe too much, you will murder everyone around you, if you loose your focus just for a second you could slice the room you are in with your heat vision, if you do anything with just a little too much force, you will break everything around you. Did you ever close a door with too much force because you were a bit angry? If Superman did it, the wall will fall down. So he is trying to fit in, trying to be a good man in a tough, crazy world, every day, just like all of us, but for him it's even harder. But he never loses hope in humanity. That is Superman. Despite being an alien, he's the most human of us all.
Interesting. I thought the super hearing was one of those powers he had to activate to use. But that just shows how little I actually know him
Can't have a white man embracing those values in 2023, no sir.
@@x-treme_gamer tbf, i think it is, but you can't decide what and how you hear it, so i always imagined he is so used to it that he can filter information. It's the same for us, we don't pay heed to the cars or the wind or the fridge, until we focus that sound out. What i wanted to point out is that Superman must always control himself, because canonically he could kill us all or destroy the planet if he really wanted to, but he never ever will because it's against what he believes in. It's been done in the comics and in the animation, the fact that superman could rule Earth with an iron fist, but he doesn't because he believes in the system, he believes in the good of humanity. There's your conflict, and sure not every story has to be about that, make a story about a giant gorilla with kryptonite vision, it's harmless fun. But mix it with a story where Superman has to choose between Lois Lane(or someone else he cares about) and an airplane full of people. Make some of them criminals too, to spice it up. Who will he save? Make a story about him saving astronauts in space(or under the sea, whatever), they can't speak or move too much, so while he is saving them,one of them who was trapped under some debris, goes unnoticed until the last moment, where you have Superman and the trapped guy look each other in the eye, both of them thinking:" you are Superman, and you didn't save me". He will have to live with that thought for the rest of his life.
This show in the first 2 episodes seems to embody exactly what Superman is, granted they added an anime style power up but the first two episodes seem to take new and old superman lore and make a pretty entertaining show with it.
I hope it keeps it up.
@@MCPhatmanI feel sorry for you.
I'll never forget watching the 90s Superman animated show. There was an episode where Supes gave a speech about good and evil, and I just remember my mom was in the kitchen and overheard it. She stopped what she was doing, came into the living room and asked what show I was watching. When I told her, she told me she WANTED me to keep watching that show because it had good moral characters.
I realize now what she meant. Show like this CN one, not only destroy our nostalgia and icons, but eliminate role models for children.
Well, let's take a look at the morals here - Clark desperately wants to fit in, even to the point that he's afraid of using his powers for good. In teh same way, he lambasts Lois for having lied to them while his entire life is a constant lie to everyone else!
Lois believes her hunches justify putting others in danger, she lies to her new interns, abuses their rust in her as the senior and can count herself lucky they weren't fired on the first day. For all she knows, Clark was buried by a shipping container being thrown at him by a weirdly Evangelion-look-alike robot - still, no accountability on her side, instead she's pissed that Clark doesn't come along with her and Jimmy for the second excursion.
Clark's adoptive mother is trying to hinder her son when he - older version - feels ready to explore his legacy. Understandably as a child he was fraked out and they consoled him but as a young adult who wants to know - rather needs to know - where he comes from, only thing she considers is her fear of her son potentially changing; that was what puberty already was about or moving to Metropolis...
Perry is not only an editor who has to deal with his journalists potentially going rogue, he is an adult taking care of interns - it is his damn responsibility to assess the potential risks adn after what they went through at the docks, he gives Lois a stern talking to but doesn't fire her for putting Jimmy and Clark in danger?
Regarding moral values, I honestly find even less of them in this show's premiere episodes than story telling.
superman: now I know it's tough to turn down a dare but sometimes being brave means using your head and not doing something dangerous because someone dared you
batman: you play chicken long enough, you fry
@@BigBossBernie Not defending the show because I haven't seen it yet. But I'm Confused isn't that an example of starting points for the characters to develop from. Clark Literally has that same fear/uncertainty of using his powers in Earth One Book. Granted it would be better to start off with Superman as Superman. but is it that bad if the Show lets the characters develop in basically a year one story.
@Samrules888 you saved me a rant good youtuber carry on .
this comment make me cry.
I dont blame tomboy lovers who are in love with the lois lane design. I can see where they're coming from, but I still have an issue with her being Lois Lane.
But they only like tomboy look not the character itself. People on Twitter believe this version of Lois Lane is better than her 90s counterpart and that's total BS! These tomboy lovers are desperate because they want to have one
Same, I love her design, but I just wish she was her own character and not a "replacement" for Lois Lane
@@donatran6418I can’t see anything except that. It’s a 1 to 1. Direct cut. Even the personality.
I dunno... I don't see MAwS's Lois as being that far off. She actually kind of reminds me of my all time favorite Lois Lane (Smallville's Lois Lane!) because she's an energetic, fast-talker with hard-headed determination. She's pushy but has a snarky affection for Clark, Perry, and Jimmy. Even the Smallville Lois could be considered a tomboy in season 4 when she dressed less feminine than Lana or Chloe.
I was legit wondering who that boy is.
I still remember in 2001 there was a panel of Superman crying alone cause he couldn’t save everyone. That single frame captured so much.
That is how you represent Superman's insecurities and flaws correctly, this show tries way too hard to appeal to the lowest common denominator of viewership instead of actually paying homage to the character they're portraying.
I'm not the most knowledgeable about superman, but has there really been a time when superman couldn't save everybody or beat any threat? every DC content and death battle content puts him up as this omnipotent titan who's faster than thought and stronger than everyone but a reality warper
@@destroyallfurries 2001 is the important part of my statement.
you remember something happening in 2001? Something with Towers?@@destroyallfurries
@@destroyallfurries Well in Post-Crisis, the guy sure as hell ain't this omnipotent titan you think of. Yeah, there's plenty of times where he could not save people...
I miss the old DCAU. Good animation and characters. Plus the crossovers were awesome!
Not gunna lie, I didn't like the artistic changes made. That style, with the black eyed Joker, felt like a step down.
The stories were still great, don't get me wrong, but the original style was iconic!
@@dudepool7530 I can see where you're coming from, but one redesign that I liked was Scarecrow. He looked very horrifying.
@@dudepool7530Joker received the modern logo treatment
Yeah they didnt have to race swap a character because they had characters like John Stewart. Who was a far better written character than everything they are putting out now.
I loved the Justice League Unlimited show growing up. Young Justice was good too (for a normie like me), because they didn't swap characters they just introduced new ones.
If they really wanted to show a Superman who is unsure of himself, they should have done an animated Smallville instead
For real. Jesus they missed the mark.
Even then, they’d find some way to butcher that too
By the time he reached Metropolis he should of had very good control over his power. He shouldn't be making these mistakes. After all much of his powers started showing up in high school and earlier
@@crestofhonor2349 Originally, he had his powers pretty much as soon as he landed on Earth. The movie from the 70s includes a scene where he lifts up the back end of John Kent's truck when he's only about 3 years old.
Smallville is too complex for modern audiences. They had to retard it waaay back and then do this sailor moon look alike crap. Or they could have a mental breakdown on tiktok
Imagine turning Deathstroke into a Yaoi pretty boy voiced by Jerry from Rick and Morty.
Not to mention giving Livewire the mental illness haircut. And of course, she is voiced by Zehra Fazal 🙄
She had "mental illness" haircut in the original animated show lmao shut yp
*_"Jessie wtf are you talking about."_*
I cannot unhear Cyril Figgis and Jerry from this voice, two incredibly dweeby characters, with heart but both prone to failure.
Not the kind of voice or characterization I associate with Deathstroke.
(I am not a big american comic guy but I know bits and bobs, read some comics and watched the good shows)
She's got that therapy haircut
Hey Chris Parnell is fantastic, I wouldn't make him Deathstroke though
My takeaway from the beginning of the video:
-> Damn, the new Jujutsu Kaisen opening is an absolute masterpiece
Agreed the new season is straight fire 🔥
Seeing as how the people who wrote that terrible She-Ra reboot are also working on this show, it doesn’t really surprise me why this series ended up in it’s current state.
But damn did they do Slade dirty.
They really did my boy Slade dirty like wtf?!
That's why jimmy looks like that gay bow! I f*king knew it!
Making an assasin androgynous makes zero sense
I literally felt like, "What is this tumblr ass shit" the whole time!
@@SonicSkychaser I was thinking at the time it was Grant Wilson
its crazy that we live in a generation where all the fanfiction writers we would make fun of actually work in the industry now
Because actual fans are busy working real jobs.
Don't compare them to fanfiction writers, they actually love the source material and actually try to tell a decent story.
That’s the worst part about it. After being rightfully rejected by others in their youth, they’ve now taken it upon themselves to inject themselves into every piece of media released to the public. These freaks should’ve died off already, but yet here we are 😩
To be honest nobody gotten shiped yet
@@ytredvb because the author self insert girlfriend of Lois hasn't shown up yet. IT ALWAYS HAPPENS
It is weird: they understand anime is popular... But they keep locking onto the wrong reasons why it's popular.
Til this day, western companies still think anime is only popular because of its character designs.
@@VileGloryYep. That's how shallow they think people are. They have to think that way because the alternative is realising that no matter what medium they used, what is dogsht is everything they are on the inside. This isn't Superman, that boy isn't Lois, the black guy isn't Jimmy and if they want to stray so far from the original, they should make something new.
it turns out that most people in the position to make these choices are fucking braindead. turns out most of society is braindead
Because they can’t break with their own Politics. They sabotage themselves.
@@VileGlory Charaster designs are definitely a part of the appeal of anime, still only a part. And even then, I fail to see what is anime in My Adventues with Superman's character designs. I'm not that much into anime and I can tell it's a cheap knockoff that looks nothing like anime.
It's so weird that anime is more popular than ever in the West, but the best examples of western anime (Teen Titans, Avatar, etc.) are from like 20 years ago.
@firehaps, no offense but isn’t even weird, anime is very popular and that’s has nothing to be weird about, tell me you never watched anime and called anime is weird 🤦♀
The more they do this the more they convince me that it isn't about "modernizing" a character, but a systematic tearing down of the ideals that these characters are supposed to stand for.
It's Marxist demoralization.
You're right. They call it subversion and deconstruction.
Always has been and it's a concerted effort once you open your eyes to it it's amazing and terrifying what you see which is why many won't even when it's in front of them.
idk in my eyes is this really that bad at least in this show I've not seen any case of it being political or mean spirited to the source material
When you're asked "why is batman the bad guy" or whatever it was before being allowed to write about the character, I'd say it's definitely about tearing down iconic cultural icons.
And to this day Superman the animated series is still the gold standard for Superman
Along with the '92 Batman Animated series being it's standard.
@@Mcaark RIP Kevin Conroy
@@KAMFP "Without Batman, crime has no punchline..."
Yes that's the one they need to put as live action...just copy that universe and good to go.
Yall not gonna mention the justice league cartoons?
I didn't know they did that to Deathstroke. I was planning on checking it out cause I heard some good things about it. Annoyance of black-washed Jimmy aside.
They really Tumblr-fied him. They Tumblr-fied the whole show. If they really wanted something that campy, then I would have done a Supersons cartoon.
Jon and Damien have such great chemistry and friendship and I would love to see them animated. You get childish Superboy/Jon trying to figure out who he is and how he fits as Superman's son, and the more seriousness of Damien who's experienced the darkness of humanity. It writes itself!
Got ol' Deathstroke looking like a boy band reject
Am I the only one who knows the art style reminds us of the She-Ra reboot?
They made a super sons animated movie that was pretty good, I recommend checking it out
They will make damian and jon luv eachother
And ani twitter will c
@@mikey.526 I largely disliked the Super Sons movie. They regressed Damien's character, again. Best I could describe him as the annoying version of a kid trying to be edgy.
And Jon was just completely OOC. For him, I'll go with whiney. So I really don't think the characters bounced off of each other at all in that movie.
Look you could have kept the fear Superman has of letting loose and going all out. That “World made of Cardboard” speech from the Justice League animated series was moving and understandable.
Man, why can't they do superman justice. I am not asking another injustice superman which I am tired of that take of superman been done to death. But this is just generic anime 101. I want a balance of superman withholding his strength but also having his ideal challenge. The comic where superman cry becuase he couldn't save peope on time, when in all star superman where even when he was severely weaken and sick, he took the time to console a suicidal cancer patient girl to attempt to jump to a tall buildings or the scene on justice league of the cardboard. That for me is superman.
@@kyordannydelvalle523
MAWS Superman isnt actually that far off, if you watch the series.
If anything you get the feeling he is still new to being a Super Hero. But he is still idealistic and gets that challenged from people that either got reasons to be distrustful towards Superman, like general Lane, or those who only understands selfish pragmatism like Dr.Ivo.
This show might have some generic traits (much like Superman does in general, if we are going to be honest), but it's actually a great show with some nice romance and emotional stakes.
Once you of course, look past the parts where this show takes a different approach from the original. Because although there are some interesting story beats based off Superman's lore, it's clear that isnt trying to be a straight adaption, and is more along the lines of an elseworld story that even references TAS among other Superman cartoons as alternative universes.
@@zettovii1367I'd rather a show about a competent Superman that already knows how to use his powers.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
This Superman is competent enough... Though if you want a show about a veteran Superman, there is always the live action Superman & Lois one.
@@zettovii1367 eh, that one kind of fell off imo
The writers nowadays forget that Superman has a really nice mother and father, who loved him and instilled in him values and self respect. They think he's like them, a kid with absent parents who've been working all day and he's growing up without guidance being riddled with self doubt.
Screw those writers.
Excellent point
They forget that he was already representing adopted kids.
As the child of an adoptee, with a grandmother kinda like Ma Kent, I always appreciated seeing a loving family, being open about adoption.
Takes a very loving woman, to have a 3 year old happy to help shovel cow manure 😂
That's the reason they keep trying to revamp it how dare a white man have a loving family and father
He still has those parents..... 😂😂😂 Literally the same origin story
Thats the whole point of what made Clark such a great person and Hero. How he was raised on his home in Smallville by his mom and dad. Sure he knows they arent his biological parents but he does not care as Jon and Marth Kent are his real parents in his eyes. Even Kara Zor El (Supergirl lives with Momma and Daddy Kent)
They got rid of Lois' signature blue-violet eyes and blackwashed Jimmy, then turned Livewire into that She-Ra androgynous abomination. We can already see that the staff's focus wasn't on telling a good story, but on changing the characters to fit their perceptions.
Simperman: “But this is an alternate universe so jimmy can be black.”
That’s an argument I had with someone who likes this tshi. Blackwashing is still blackwashing!
Jimmy was black on CW's Supergirl and there weren't complaints in mass. So what's different now?
@@TheMysteryDriverNo one watched the CW.
@@TheMysteryDriver are there still people who unironically watch CW’s dc shows?
@@TheMysteryDrivercounterpoint: it's the CW. Nothing there is good anymore.
I'm just amazed that they managed to make the owl house canon in the DC universe. They really wanted Luz and Gus to have a future in show biz didnt they?
They cancelled the Owl House, so the Owl House found a new host in Superman XD.
I see what you did there lol 😂
@@KAMFP They left the Boiling Isles for Smallville real fast. 😂
That side-by-side comparison of "office chats" between Clark and Lois from the old days and now is astounding! It truly nails the difference about how grown-up were "cartoons for kids" back then, and how immature and ridiculous are things aired at midnight now. Characters behaving as if it's another high school "comedy" a-la Velma. Yuck.
I have a very, very bad feeling about the animated LotR-themed series WB is currently making.
It was always so interesting watching Loise and Clark talk during the scenes at the Daily Planet. Even as I child it felt cool watching.
My brother was saying how this didn't bother him that much cause it's just a different version and there are all types of the different versions of Superman. To which I replied "Yes but this version is appealing to a type who doesn't read, doesn't like or doesn't even watch Superheroes. Let alone read any comics. All they do is write yaoi fan fiction on Tumbler" You should not pander to a crowd who has no respect for the medium they're adapting. Cause once you do, they get into it [which is how this thing is getting made in the first place] and then they change it and want it to always be this stuff. It's always gotta be CHANGED to fit THEIR OWN IDEAS cause the original/real one had something wrong with it. They don't understand the original or even like the original. So they'll fix it. Give them an inch and they take it all. Gate keep what you love.
Sadly, they've done this to everything but the most obscure properties I grew up loving. Hell, I'm terrified to mention the obscure stuff these days, because I don't want to lead to the destruction of it...
The idea of "it's another universe, so nothing matters" bogs down the intrigue of the source material as well. Look at what they did to Spider-Man. Spider-Man is now a generic set of powers and costume that you give to anyone. Not only that, they basically gave Spider-Man his own mini-team with characters like Miles and Spider-Gwen, which kind of undermines the point of Spider-Man in the first place. What makes Spider-Man cool if everyone can be Spider-Man if they just get a convenient radioactive spider bite?
Mickey Mouse doesn't feel like a character because he's just a generic smiley cartoon that Disney plasters on everything. They've turned characters like Spider-Man into the Mickey Mouse of superheroes, and this show does more of the same for Superman.
Straight up Owlman approach. Nothing matters. The only choice that makes a difference is burning it all...
Your brother sounds like he might be a bit on the slow side.
@@flarestorm9417 think you just have a negative outlook and lost your way somewhere in life. Spiderman is supposed to be inspiring while you sound like a negative Nancy that doesn't believe in yourself. I hope things get better for you.
Anything sounds smart if you boil it down to one specific thing, but that just shows how far your intellect goes. No offense.
Anyone can be Spider-Man, but that doesn't make you peter Parker. Peter Parker himself just wants to help people not hog the glory. He would be in tears to know there are people who will take care of new York if he passes away. He's not immortal even with super powers.
Part of growing up is learning to let go.
Youth fades away and if you aren't ready you'll spend the rest of your old man years fighting for something that could have helped people instead.
" I'm mad because you aren't consuming media the same way I am" instead of " here's a worthwhile story that could instill values and confidence in a person who Is struggling with becoming an adult while I've taken it for granted"
I actually kinda like lois' design. Too bad it doesn't look like lois.
yeah but it's a nice tomboy and i love tomboys - unfortanelly is the only good thin about this series
Never got the tomboy gf obsession. You're basically saying you like masculine women?
Agreed. As a tomboy myself, I approve of the design, but yeah. Not Lois.
@anon7596 tomboy girls are not really masculine .... are just fierce and aggressive
@@anon7596 nah i like the stetic of tomboys - not ever tomboy acts masculine - they can just like tipically boy stuff or have short hair - but i like some spunk girl too
It honestly feels like Cartoon Network did not know what to do with this show. Apparently what’s happening is that Warner Media is now trying to make the main cartoon Network block appeal to 7 year olds and younger. This show originally was going to appear on the main network before Warner decided that the show was most likely “too violent”. So they instead decided to put it on the Toonami block which starts at around midnight on Saturdays or placed it at midnight in order to kill it. Either way the show was definitely made for children considering the bare minimum violence and use of toyetic character designs for Superman and the shows antagonists.
Well warner made the mistake of approving two seasons off the rip like velma.
@@ItsAGundam
They’ve already approved another season?! 😂 I still can’t believe that they kept this show and cancelled the new Batman animated series that was being produced by Matt Reeves. It’s their loss tho since apparently that show is going to Amazon which will sit alongside The Boys and Invincible.
The art style kind of reminds me of Netflix's "She-Ra" and "Voltron: Legendary Defenders", and Amazon Prime's "Invincible" combined. And I agree with you on what they did with Livewire in this show, they have the idea of making this show to be modern and yet they ruined it while making her to be some armed illegal drug dealer and not some online influencer or podcast streamer. They must be really obsessed with the futuristic cyberpunk design for her while trying to make a show to be in modern times yet it doesn't blend in with the modern times era.
It has that soulless "anime-inspired" art style that has been around since at least Legend of Korra. I blame that show for this god-awful trend in western animation.
It's funny you mention she-ra, considering one of the producers is josie campbell, someone who worked on she ra. Should also explain why the show is the way it is
@@gal12345ish No freaking way! 😂
@@JonnyHorseman At least that filth known as The Legend of Korra has a good soundtrack and it used the Korean animation studios for all their worth, these people didn't bother with...anything.
I'm starting to think you guys just hate it because it look anime inspired
Ironic.
In the past, children's shows treated you like an adult.
In current year, adult shows treat you like a child.
"adult" shows
Well, no. In the 90s and early 2000s, *some* sparse children's shows treated kids like they were intelligent, rather than drooling dullards - Gargoyles, Batman TAS, Justice League, Beast Wars, Cybersix, etc. - and included elements that could be enjoyed by adults and children alike, appreciated on diverse levels.
The majority of them were forgettable trash, and everything from the 80s were enjoyable toy commercials with almost no depth, even those that we remember fondly. Try watching any two random episodes of the 1980s Transformers. They're utterly juvenile.
We recall the former simply because they were outstanding.
This, like most material produced these days, treats kids as dumb.
But they're right to do that, in some ways, because kids are stupider than ever.
@@reimannsum9077 And why do you think kids are stupider these days? Really gets the almonds toasting.
@@donutbevil9669So us 90's kids are some sort of Ubermensch.... because of cartoons.
Imagine Teen Titan's Slade in ANY TV show nowadays. The psychological trauma would be immense.
These children would lose all their sanity. They'd go from puppies and unicorns, to meeting Mr. Horrorshow himself.
This wasn't made to be an adult show. It was originally supposed to aire on Adult Swim.
*"HOW MANY TIMES DO THEY HAVE TO REWRITE YOUR STORY?!"* - Goku to Superman in Epic Rap Battles of History
"YOUR POWERS HAVE BEEN BORING SINCE THE 19 FUCKING 40S"
*"Deafeat me with heat beams? You're crazy, cuz I'm a Super Saiyan while you're flying miss Daisy! You're pretty pasty to be powered by the sun, you can't float to Son Goku, cuz I Kaioken get it done!"*
You'd be surprised how many people are impressed when you bust this out! Gets that good geek street cred 😂 especially when you have Goku tatted on your arm (DragonBall days).
I love how if you remove the intro and outro from Z the runtime of the show is almost half. I also love the idea that the reaction cuts are basically the plot besides the fights. I also like how everytime they wish no one has wished that no one had powers or could endanger whole planets or life in the universe. I also really like the version of the show that uses swords, they called it bleach
@rallyfeind making a wish that big is impossible at least with dragon balls made by mortals. That would be beyond Kami/Dende's power as well as Guru. The dragon can only do a wish that does not exceed their creator's power.
"Hey, goku - how many forms are you up to now; like, 237 or something..? Shame your writers seem to confuse 'character development' with handing out new powers like candy bars... sh*t - even **VEGETA** has a better arc than you!!
Remember when Superman was stuck in a part of the galaxy with no stars and eternal darkness so he had to wander before losing strength and finally found stars and flew through each one, powering up before landing a time-tranceding punch?
Wouldn't you like to see that animated?
Wishful thinking
Yeah but the story to that point was so convoluted
@@andymk8951 welcome to DC comics
@@andymk8951 basically every universe has this issue lol
Uh, no.
Maybe in a "What If?" show like Marvel, cause otherwise there ain't no way to account for THAT kinda of power level if you do that
They took Superman and made him into Spider-Man, in terms of personality. The insecurity, the babbling, the nerd-ing out; it's all just Spider-Man 24/7 for the character, and it's such a bad way to do Superman as an adult.
For Spider-Man, it makes sense that he would be like that because he goes through human struggles despite his powers. He's always struggled with insecurity, which is why he is always joking and babbling. But for Superman, he's a superpowered individual who is more like a god living among and like the rest of us. Plus, Clark had a little over a decade to learn about his powers and finding out who he is as a person. Peter was given these powers immediately as a teen, just about to crossover into adulthood.
They took Spiderman and turned him into Jimmy Olsen in the MCU, but with super powers
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Pretty much, yeah.
I realized recently why it is that race swapping always bothered. I come from Puerto Rico and my family is very mixed, having Black, Native, Spaniards blood and a few others.
I loved John Stewart's GL from JLU, Cyborg from Teen Titans and so on. I kept up with the characters and read all the comics and I loved every moment with them.
And this is what I realized: A character that is race swapped can never have that. If your favorite depiction of a character isn't the original and you go back you realize they weren't what you thought they were, it divides you from what you liked. How can you enjoy Hawkman in movies if you can't go back and connect with him? They might as well have been a completely new characters.
for a number of fans who are annoyed with the whole race swap thing including myself. We regularly pull out the "they should just be a new character" card.
@@NoahGooder you realize those characters are supposed to be black ?
If you can’t connect to someone because they are a different race then it seems like your the problem.
Exactly. If you want hero’s of color, there are plenty in comics who haven’t had there stories explored (Blue Beatle, Bronze Tiger, Firestorm, etc). As well as previous colored hero’s who could be brought back for modern audiences (Blade, Spawn, Static Shock). Idk, just feels weird having to color wash characters when there are so many good stories that don’t need any changes to them.
@@samuellindsey6379 Well, we are getting a blue beetle movie.
Gag me.
After what's been done to almost all these characters in the comics, i really don't want to see animated versions of that.
Feel like this version of Lois Lane is designed so that Twitter/Tumblr type can see her as a anime pretty boy or trans so in their mind they can fantasized that Superman in a gay relationship.
It a trend they seams to do alot.
Dammit, that's probably it. I kinda like her having a tomboy look, but when they make her that flat... I thought from some of the distant shots, that Supe had gone gay.
You’re in the wrong side of town my boy
Considering that she looks like a grown-up version of Luz from the Owl House, it checks out. I never saw much of that show, but it is loved by the Tumblr crowd a lot.
@@flarestorm9417it is mainly because she is a lesbian,, that's why.
to be fair Lois Lane is Luz from The Owl House... and yeah on point, Luz is lesbo
This is a perfect example of how American culture has devolved in the last few decades. A cartoon made for kids in the 90s is much more refined and mature than a cartoon made for "adults" in 2023.
Thinking the same thing
That’s because kids in the 90s were still expected to grow up. Kids in the 2020s are only expected to grow older.
You have a lot of 20 and 30 something “adults” in the current West who grew up in a toxic environment where comfort and safety was the ideal whilst ambition, bravery, and hard work were denigrated. Let alone the toxic race and sex rhetoric. The result is a bunch of physically adult but mentally damaged people who never made the normal, healthy transition from childhood to adult independence and self reliance. Instead they’re stuck in some messy perpetual teenager state, whitener it’s daddy issues, cynical edge-lord type BS, or a kind of whiny childishness.
My Adventures with Superman is made for 10 year olds. It's meant to be a children's cartoon.
It's also unfair to compare some of the greatest cartoons in history in the DCAU to bog average things like My Adventures with Superman.
One set of series revolutionizes what is possible in children's' animation.
The other does not. Compare it to some forgotten bloatware from the 90s, like, I don't know, Street Sharks, and you've got a more fair parallel.
Another example of our *devolving* culture is people that don't proofread their comments.
@@theeffete3396 happy now?
Tumblr Superman is the perfect description for this show
And how can you explain the audience scores then, hmm?
He isn't just a guy saying a world from aliens, but also to what is like to be a hero to save others innocent lives.
The amount of times Superman has found out who he is again is appalling, you’d think he’d remember who he’s been after awhile
Superman's just finding the pink kryptonite
@@KAMFP I thought he had just sipped some bud light xD
i feel the same way about thor movies thor 1 odin sends him to earth to find himself thor 2 he declines the throne because he still needs to find himself thor 3 he still needs to find himself after losing his hammer thor 4 still needs to find himself and now he has lose all that holiday weight i mean come on thor you have had like 1500 years
@@nirvv84 you touched on a topic I’m also passionate about, yes, total agreement there
But who am I?
Nobody gives a shit, Logan!
Listen, all ill say. *ALL ILL SAY.* Is that new Lois hits those long forgotten Tomboy vibes we all miss having around. Yea, it's a shame they couldn't ya know, write someone new in and add her in, but ill take a tomboy over every other self insert we've had in the last 10 years.
I'm willing to forgive this shows existence based solely on tomboy Lois.
I fuvking love tomboy Lois, ill leave it to my favorite _artists_ to write a better episode/scenario
Based
I wish I was born in the 90s
The vein of the character and its foundation is around her femeninity. If you lived in the 90s you could easily see how truly sexy Louis was a strong independent woman that paved her way in a male dominated world, intelligent, witty, and highly confident.
But modern writers are unable to see undertones and subleties. They are not visionaries; modern writers are blind.
@@Cloutweb1 I mean I get that man, but still it could be worse. You literally never seen the tomboy look in media anymore that's not attached to like 27 alphabet letters and 16 genders like some baskin robins treat of the week. While it dosen't capture the strong girlboss energy, it's not Susan from the boiler room who somehow inherits Superman's power and does his job but better.
Am I the only one who finds it weird with how they're handling Clark's powers? Like they made it so that he "unlocks" his abilities every episode like a video game character. Part of what makes him great was being able to control his many abilities from the start (heat vision, super hearing, x-ray vision, etc...) but it's like I'm watching Invincible rather than Superman with how they're handling his abilities.
Which ties into my other point. That's, Shazam! Shazam has the power glows henshin hero power set that he controls independently, has to master in turn, and can be removed or replaced. They wanted to make a Shazam show!
I mean, it worked pretty well for Smallville. Though, I think he’s a bit old for the “unlocking his powers” trope. They showed him getting super strength and flight as about a 10 year old, how does he not have control of it after a decade of practice? Either he should be younger or his powers shouldn’t have appeared until he was a bit older.
@@PanelVulture Evolving abilities over time is one thing, this feels like he's unlocking them like a video game. When his eyes light up you can almost see the UI saying 'New Ability!' with a short video tutorial on how to use the Megaton Punch command.
Its only 3 episodes in give it time.
first people complain that superman is overpowered, now people complain that they're tonning a YOUNG VERSION of him down?
“If Guts and Casca got together…” So basically lose one of the major plot points and subtle themes about Berserk, makes 100% sense. It’s like saying, “Let’s do Star Wars, but have the concept of Anakin and Luke being each other’s foil thrown out the window.”
Seriously man, that was really just an innocent comment made by a fan of Berserk that thought that this series was almost like watching Guts and Casca have a happy ending together...
Which can be nice to the heart, considering the horrible stuff they go through.
To think that this somehow "misses the point of the characters", is to miss the point of the comment.
They already have prewritten stories that are amazing. All they have to do is animate them. Not only are they ripping off super man they're ripping off the art style. Insane
Or you could just learn to draw and animate but that would be too much work, right?
@@AngelSaintCloudWhat is your point?
@@AngelSaintCloudsuch a retarded argument. Oh this Resturaunt is serving shit food? Make your own REEEE!
You could just get an actual argument that’s not inherently childish and pathetic, but that would be too much work and thinking, right? Sit down.
@@marcelberes469he has none. People who make this argument have no point to make. It’s just copium from a snowflake who can’t take criticism. Nothing more.
The art style is giving me war flash backs of High Guardian Spice. That's not to say that western shows can't mimic anime but when it fails it comes of cringey as hell.
Imean this art style isn't bad it's just HGS ruined it
It's like those "writers" only watched sailor moon, demon slayer, mha, & rom com anime and just go like "inspiration!" Then they proceed to go diarrhea on their notes, and it just comes off as uninspired and lazy.
Ugh that toixc shit 🤢🤢🤢
@@veggsbacon1891 Honestly it's kinda sad because a story about Clark Kent figuring out who he is and what he's meant to do with his powers could work. But the story needed to be set when he was just going through puberty and have that be when his powers started to emerge NOT when he's an adult.
Did that show ever come out? I completely forgot about it.
How have we not gotten past the "why can't I just be normal" trope in everything
Cause if the writers finally figured out why they can't be "normal" and just lived their lives, they'd no longer have what they think is a personality.
@TheTGOAC it's just that it's the Go To gag for sooo much of all of this content for 20 or more years.
I get that it's a common device to lay out and establish the rules in each new thing. But my God, the omg so random, "I just want to be normal" bull shit has to stop.
You see it in comics, tv, cartoons, movies (especially every marvel orgin movie), games, etc etc
It's then followed up with a "I didn't want any of this". I'm just a kid.
Fuck that. Kids imagine themselves as great huge embellished things all the time. How about a character embrace and celebrate their specialness.
because u need a character to struggle tbh the one REALLY bad thing about superman is he is OP his only weakness is a SUPER rare crystal and even if he dies he can just be revived it makes him not interested for most people
@admiralkaede anyone who has ever read many superman comics or watched the 90s cartoon or JL cartoons knows that's not the case.
I've been hearing some version of that topic for 20 plus years. What is this based on? People just remember the first 2 superman movies from 40+ years ago and don't consider things aren't the same?
@@BirchTheGreat not many people read comics and I'm one of them but still I've seen a lot of the movies and even some of the cartoons they are good but I do for sure think there is some rose tinted goggles for sure on them also a double standard when things like young justice changed how he acted but people didn't claim it was "erasing a legend"
wow, back in my early 20's adult swim at midnight had cowboy bebop, big o, trigun, wolf's rain, flcl, blue gender, ghost in the shell: sac, witch hunter robin, and inuyasha are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. It's what literally got me into anime. this new adult swim is terrible looking.
We can't forget about lupin the third.
It's funny how in this show, Superman's father looks more like Slade than Slade himself.
I actually had this on while I was doin something I had no idea that little punk was supposed to be Deathstroke. Unacceptable
@@lonewolf_a_real1the slade from teen titans was much better
@@michaelclifton9498 you right or my fav, batman arkham origins Slade
LMFAO GOOD POINT
@@michaelclifton9498lade from Teen Titans was such a great villain. Also voiced by a great voice actor who just nailed that role.
I loved the Superman Animated Series. I'm not even a Superman fan and I loved that series.
Mercy Graves also came from that show, voiced by Lisa Edelstein.
Luz from Owl House legally changed her name into Lois Lane.
I thought this was a Shitpost joke but,no... You're not only serious but it's so,fucking similar I'm wondering how Disney hasn't fired up the Lawyers
And became straight.
Yet more solid proof that same gender relationships, are just a phase.
@@sgtstr3am785? Disney has nothing to do with DC?
@@BlaBlaBla-76 Owl House is Disney. Superman is DC. Can you figure out the rest? It was 2 sentenced dude
I knew this new design reminded me of someone. They look the exact same in pretty much every way.
I’m actually going to take a contrary opinion so far and say that I’ve really, really been enjoying the new Superman show.
Clark and Lois have excellent chemistry and genuinely seem to like each other as people.
Clark’s fundamental character trait is that he’s a good person that will always try to help people in any situation - which is something that recent DC has struggled with and this show nails.
Superman not fully understanding his powers makes sense given that he has no training, and can’t understand the Kryptoponian language instructions his dad left him.
The initial lack of powers allows for Superman to grow over the course of the series and sets up a natural escalation of stakes - we get to see him learn and grow as a character, which is one of my favorite points of story telling.
Finally, Supes actually has a back bone and his arguments with Lois feel like they have genuine weight and a back and forth quality - they’re both flawed and occasionally immature characters but the narrative never elevates one or undermines the other and their mistakes feel very natural based on who they are.
Yes, Superman is boyish and a little awkward, and yes the characters are more immature than previous iterations - I honestly don’t mind that. I actually really like seeing the group in their earlier years before they’re totally established, as it’s a new perspective on the characters.
Tomboy Lois also works for me - it doesn’t detract from the feminine appeal of the character.
Maybe it’s just a difference in perspective but I think the show oozes charm and it’s one of the best things I’ve watched in a long time.
And just like that you've provided better insight on the series than anything in this garbage "review".
@@darknessrising2453 i'm not even watching the review just finished it and was really happy with it anyone sleeping on it should finish it atleast. hits a lot of the story beats snyder failed to do and hey look we didn't need a dark tone to do it
Redheads are the true oppressed minorities in modern media.
Also, "western anime" still looks like Totally Spies. Drives me insane.
First 5 totally spies seasons were peak cartoon shows. If i see Totally Spies ruined like that, i will lose all hope for cartoons
You haven't lost all hope by now?
Seriously I'm just waiting for all these people to be jettisoned from the industry before I so much as glance in DC's general direction.
Really that trash Totally Spies? At least use Avatar as the example for western anime.
Totally Spies and its side hustle Martin Mystery were the bomb back in the day.
This would have been fine if it wasn't tied to a preexisting property. My heart really goes out to the artists who took on the project. They could only work with what was given to them. They make bomb af art.
Yeah the character designs? shite the art itself? smooth as fuck
I agree, it would've been better if it were an original or have some creativity (better) in the story
Yeah Studio mir is great. The scripts they were given… not so much I imagine
dc conservatives when a elseworld story takes place on a earth different than the usual dc universe:
@@hesklairvoyantI mean, how would you feel if that elseworld existed just to say, "The people you know and love, across *all* the multiverse?? They're shit, now, we don't care what they *were,* because now they're politically correct! And you have to accept that or you're the evil of society and everyone hates you for existing."
Atrazine really is in most water supplies, and it does turn a large percentage of exposed male amphibians into female amphibians. Alex may not always be the most charming with his phrasing of things, but the man is based.
He actually said in an interview that he chose the wording on purpose because everyone knows the clip of him screaming about gay frogs but if he just sat there and talked about atrazine nobody would care.
Males cannot be turned into females, it's physically impossible. If you mean it makes them act like females, then sure.
Alex Jones also denied mass shootings...
I have a few minor gripes, but I’m interested in Clark’s development as well as Kryptonian lore. With the potential leaks I’ve read, I can say they seem interesting on paper. Just have to see the execution.
I will admit that I like this Lois' tomboy design but she looks so different that I wish they just made her, Livewire and Jimmy brand new characters. I want to see new characters not race swaps.
Yeah that's what i think too, pretty much.
It's not an awful design, and from what i've seen they at least made her decently cute, feminine and even dainty.
But it's not Lois... This isn't "alternate universe", this is "alternate franchise"...
Livewire wouldn't look out of place in some kind of cyberpunk show, and her masculine appearance is only really a problem next to the feminized men of this show... If the men where manlier looking, she would look quite nice in context. Sharp features can work on women (especially cartoons), absolutely, and the dark skin adds to that almost exotic look.
But it ain't livewire...
Hell, change their last names and we can say it's an alternate universe. There is already like 500 other ones already.
I woulda made Jimmy Asian, Livewire an OnlyFans model and Lois a BBW. It's still diverse, but not as cringe a tad bit more realistic and relevant.
It's not Lois tomboy. It's a boy. I look at pictures of that animated show and I see Boys' Love/yaoi. I was a fujoshi. That's 1000% BL art style and how Western artists have been drawing BL when the genre started becoming so popular that online Western BL comic artists were striving to become pros, gaining a following via deviantart, tumblr and other social media.
Girls who despise girls, drawing tomgirl boys as substitutes of themselves to be the bottom of a pairing with a blushing hunky top. But the couples are so saccharine sweet, they are just girlies drawn with pseudo penises.
@@little_dandelion The bigger issue is how you are admitting that you view a lot of BL artwork to where you can decipher the styles...
Going for the “who am I” thing with Superman of all characters is just hilarious. The writers did all the check mark bullshit like butchering Lois, and ruining Jimmy, and just emasculating Clark. All before writing the damn plot. Because of course you can’t have the male lead to already understand himself and uses his power to help others. Nah he needs two tumblr self inserts to guide him to fight other tumblr self inserts.
They made Lois Lane a boy and Jimmy Olsen is black. That was all I needed to know.
I don't care about the show, but I do appreciate the tomboy Lois Lane art people are spitting out.
Other than that, they succeeded in somehow making Clark Kent look like a buff twink, as paradoxical as that sounds.
The word going around seems to be himbo
@@theblackoutexplorer2658Yeah. This version definitely gives off himbo vibes. Doesn't help that he's voiced by Huey from The Boys.
@@theblackoutexplorer2658 That was the word I was thinking of, thank you.
That's a Twunk sir.
Or Himbo if you want to target his wholesome dumbassary
I thought people were liking it… then I remember I was on the Super Best Friends Subreddit and only seeing horny posting of Lois being a tan short hair Tomboy. Nobody was talking about the show, just that she looked cute.
And that's about a much ad they care
The DCAU from 1992-2006 will always be my favorite.
Sadly greatness like that will be replicated again
Nowadays, most adults on Twitter and TikTok have the emotional and intellectual maturity of toddlers, so what can we expect from actual kids?
Hopefully those kids will become better parents.
I feel like a lot of kids are going to grow up with a disrespect of authority and/or adults
It’s unfortunate bc i thought it’s more adult bc of its air time but then it turns out to not be great haha. Rip bring back the old DC animated days
Dc animated is still solid as fuck
@@666slateran666like what? Genuinely curious. Last few things i saw were mid
@@statesminds both the Constantine movies were solid. The batman long halloween was also excellent. And even the recent batman and superman movie that focused on their sons wasn't as Cringe as I expected it to be. In general the consensus has been that the animated DC movies are where the good content is and the live action has been booty aside from one or two things.
It's cuz it's appealing to modern audiences. You know...the adults who never made it to actual adulthood.
@@Juggs009 ...and who made the show themselves
The show seems inspired by anime but only aesthetically. Anime is liked because Japan treats the medium of animation with dignity and respect so they can tell their stories competently. Not because of its looks which is a secondary characteristic. In the west or at least in North American media, animation is viewed as mainly entertainment “for kids” thus it is seen as more of a genre. Secondly since it’s a seen as a medium there is a gigantic plethora of potential stories to be told and express ideas that would not be viable or possible in live action. We also prioritise star power by building up one form acting over others (voice acting) and consequently the art form does not get recognised as much.
Japan also doesn’t treat its audience like they’re demented asylum patients suffering from schizophrenia.
It's anime cal-arts of what was thought as "COOL" in the 90's: the mullets, mushroom tops, sailor moon, flashy transformation, the weird 90's villains.
It's like they grew up failing to grasp what was good/bad and only went for the parts that everyone laughed at and then lathered a heavy dose of "modern audience".
A "self insert" sounds like exactly what is happening here. they just keep inserting things into themselves until they are satisfied with the mess they've made.
😂😂😂
was the pun intended?
Phrasing?...
To quote a better Western superhero animation:
"Look What They Need to Mimic a Fraction of Our Power!"
2:40 Superman canonically had something which these writers can't comprehend - good parenting
Of they don't read the comics, they really don't have a concept of what good parenting is, and tbf most people nowadays can only dream of what being having two loving parents is like, most people nowadays grow up in broken household and either a single over worked mom, or two abusive parents who hate each other and couldn't care less about their kids, some times I see things like this and it makes me feel sad, it's sad that growing up in a loving home by with two loving parents is soo much of a luxury, not even rich kids get to have that, it's just depressing 😢
Do we have sources for that or are we just projecting?
@@darkmetal2412 if we were projecting, these people would actually have morals.
How are you gonna blame a child for having shitty parents that’s the equivalent of blaming a rape victim of the rapist’s actions
@@Nicejokeright I'm not blaming them at all, I'm just mourning the consequences
With the whole raceswap debacle these days, I've been asking myself "how much can you change a character before they stop being that character?". And it's not just about the skin mind you, looking back there are iterations of characters I'd argue could have been a completely new person even without a raceswap (like when they made April from TMNT a teenage girl with psychic powers for example). A lot of these new takes have so little in common with the original character that they might as well just change name and nobody would even know who they were intended to be (that Limewire here might be a prime example).
I haven't watched this show (or cared much about it tbh) but I've seen a strange amount of people talking about how they love the new Lois for essentially being Luz from Owl House, which kinda raises the question: do they actually love the new Lois, or do they just love Luz so much that they'll plaster her over other existing characters?
This is at least the third black Jimmy Olsen DC has had now.
- He was a big buff black guy who was Jimmy Olsen in name only in the CW Supergirl show.
- In a recent "Super Sons" CGI animated movie had a black Jimmy. In this one at least you could tell who the character was supposed to be. He looked like a black palette swap of the classic version of Jimmy.
In addition to the race swaps, Zack Snyder gender-swapped him into "Jenny Olsen" in Man of Steel. Then I guess he forgot he did that and "Jimmy Olsen" showed up for a few seconds as an FBI agent or something and then he was immediately killed in another movie.
Lois and Luz are not the same person
The weirdos only like the idea of Lois Lane being a tomboy. I've seen so many thirsty simps on Twitter desperate to have a tomboy girlfriend and they believe this Lois Lane is better than her 90s counterpart
They love the new Louis Redesigh for being a Short Tan Tomboy. That gets the weebs barking apparently
@@tatsuostatic8567Can't blame them when Tomboy Waifus are uncommon. 😥
The casting director for this show was on something else. Jack Quaid just cannot hit the gravitas of Superman, even as a younger version of Clark. I recently enjoyed his brief cameo as Peter in Spider verse and thought that casting was a great call, but this Superman is not it.
And Jesus Christ… Deathstroke. Fuck me.
Deathstroke has a history of being played by some of the coldest fucking voices in the industry. Ron Pearlman, Michael Ironside, Mark Rolston, and I kid you not, they cast fucking JERRY FROM RICK AND MORTY.
I don’t wanna limit Chris Parnell to goofy characters like he plays in R&M, and Archer, but making the jump to Deathstroke? It’s just a major miscast.
As for the animation, western animation created iconic but suitable animation styles to create dynamic and budget friendly animation. Styles like Bruce Timm’s, David Silva’s, Glenn Murakami and Derrick J Wyatt.
This attempt at anime is just trying to grab aesthetics from a style that western animation companies are not going to provide the budget to pull off.
Anime pulls this off because of a ridiculous work structure for its employees, but shitty business ethics aside, they pull it off in a way western companies outside of classic cinematic Disney productions can’t pull off.
wait hes from R&M and archer? I thought i recognized the voice. Yeah this is one hell of a miscast he should have been given a kind of middle ground position first to see if he can handle the difference.
My sister was the one who told me that was Deathstroke. I didn't believe her because her reasoning was "his hair is covering one of his eyes". I gave her ten bucks a few days later.
Aww HELL NO! I'm sorry but Slade literally haunted the dreams of millions of children.
This guy is Jerry.
@@k_tess Jerry Smith? Damn. That's brutal. Guy might as well end it before it's too late.
@@fernandogonzales9240 Honestly...I would. How you gonna be Slade Wilson if actually you're Jerry Smith? I'd have to end myself out of disappointment.
@@k_tess Or let Rick put you out of your misery
@@fernandogonzales9240 If I am Slade, imma fight Rick. Take Rick's insane plot armor away, and throw him in with Teen Titan's Slade. It would be a sight.
I'm currently a animation major and there's a certain graphic novel I would love to adapt in my career someday. However with this trend going on it worries me that it will fall to the wrong hands and forced to change something that's against the vision I have. I hope this won't be the case if I do have a opportunity to adapt that novel someday
Thats why i stick to the 90s cartoons .
X-men was awesome and was close to the comics while still being very well written and handled kids like normal people .
90s Spiderman was awesome and had really dark topics too that made you think about the consequences and the perspectives of those villians that were once normal people before they turn into those villians in all their monstrosity.
90s Hulk was an eye-opener how such huge and destructive power can be also a very huge burden to a person . And you saw what happens when unhinged , untamed pure destructive rage turned Bruce Benner into , which begs many questions about bruce benners destination and if he will be get rid of this monumental burde. that he got thanks to the gamma-experiment . That was a show where you gotta empathise with Bruce Benner and hope that his nightmare has an actual end . Oh yeah and She-hulk was my first crush as a kiddo .
Its really sad how story- and Character-writing nowadays getting rotten and insultingly stupid that watching it is more like getting tortured woth boredom .
Iron Man was pretty good, too. Especially the Mullett Stark second season.
@@mgshock That Intro alone with that mullet and the creation of the iron-man suit was stuff of legends . And that music .... holy moly , that was badass !
Back then at least there was passion and people with skill and experience for the tasks of making a good Story.
Now? They think that because they have a Popular IP, they can just go and throw the most garbage Agenda infested script and get the attention and fame.
For sure just seeing bits of this show is painful!
@@slagit Thank you., Finally some people here agree that this show is 100% wrong! I mean,. nothing about his backstory is right!!
"The only people who still watch TV are Boomers. Everyone else is on the internet." - RGE
He's right, for the most part. When I heard about this show being on Adult Swim and people complaining about the timeline choice, my reaction was, "People still watch TV?"
That’s a weird thought. There is always a currently popular show everyone is talking about. Of course people watch TV
@@ftrwrwbg most of those aren't on tv though. They are streaming
@@ftrwrwbg It isn’t a weird thought when you know most Americans have phones & ‘smart’ TV’s, I’ve cut cable ten years ago due to games & internet.
Adult Swim and Toonami is like the only thing I watch anymore
Yeah it's completely true. Cartoon Network itself has no viewers, really. It's gotten so bad over the years that they gave 2 more hours to Adult Swim programming, which split the channel into exactly a half for each starting next month.
Deathstroke having Jerry Smith's voice is just so weird that it made me laugh when I first heard him talk. They should have just gotten Ron Pearlman back as Deathstroke, that voice is really intimidating.
Nah fr tho.
Chris parnell is a good voice actor
But from someone who voices cyril from archer and jerry from rick and morty. Who are pretty much the same.
U can't expect anyone to find that intimidating lmao
Ron Pearlman wouldn't waste his time with this dogwater
Why tf is Deathstroke even in this? Him and Superman almost never cross paths.
@@mindgames7411omg yea now that you mention it. Isn’t he more of a Batman villain?
@@HelpMePls320 he’s part of Batman’s rogues gallery but he also fights against the teen titans. Him and superman have never had any meaningful interaction iirc
I actually like it, what am I?
normal
There's nothing wrong with liking it, I personally don't but it's cool if u like it.
Nothin, but is not liking it normal aswell? The internet sure does portray that, idk why, this some weird situation goin on
If u like it, people agree, if not, they still agree, the show what I say is pretty subjective rn.
I like it too. I just finished season 1 and I found it to be such a heartfelt and fun show with good storytelling and pacing.
Gundam is just a bitter old man who become stuck in hating modern media to the point that when something actually good is made, he hates it too.
They are always trying to write superman as vulnerable. They don't realize that his invulnerability, his strength, both physical and in character are why Superman is great. He understands the same lesson that made Spiderman famous. He has the ability for greatness and because of that, he must be great.
He still as those things about him
@Chainmastress34 So, acting like a confused "male" Californian hipster makes him interesting. Also, let me guess, you're spamming the comments defending this show. Wow, how predictable.
They’re writing Superman as Clark Kent… personally a much better direction than the whole alien from krypton angle
I can at least buy this version because it's his first time being superman.
Also. Superman at heart is Clark Kent. Something most Movies keep missing. Clark Kent isn't the Disguise. It's the Person. Superman is the Uniform.
@Chainmastress34 He is the caricature everyone who never read Superman think Clark Kent is. Clark is kinda of dork sometimes, but not a pussie or indecise.
What itsagundam said about updating livewire is what they really did to her in the comic, they updated her from a radio shockjock to a RUclipsr/streamer
I mean honestly that makes sense since DC has a habit of rebooting every other year and if the settia meant to be modern day than Livewire should be a streamer of some kind because who under the age of 50 still listens to the radio anymore when there's so many better alternatives
@@Drums_of_Liberation true i mean it kinda makes sense radio stuff is really not common anymore
I know they did that in the MCU with J Jonah Jameson. They turned him into Alex Jones and it actually worked. Mainly cause JK Simmons nails Alex’ mannerisms
@@ChrisSuperDude to be fair the MCU stole that from Insomniac just like they stole May's gravestone inscription from them.
You know how that bib thing could've worked? Have Lois still picking sprinkles out of her clothes two days later.
Yeah, I image Superman the Animated Series would do something like that.
That requires effort and passion towards a project.
Anytime something is adapted for "modern audiences" they do us the favor of telling us in advance that it's gonna be bad.
You probably would have said the exact same thing if this aired 20 years ago
@@nicholaspatrella9454 thats consistency
That’s not really true.
Batman 1989 changed for modern audiences were ready for a more gothic version of Batman since The Adam West TV Show in 1966 which ended up changing how people viewed the character in the public eye.
Changing something that has potential to be better than what it is isn’t a bad idea, JUST HAVE GOOD VISIONS.
Just cuz you don't like it does not automatically make the show bad
As a redhead i am mad that we lost our repersentation in this show, i will go and tweet about it i think XD.
Redheads are actual minorities. Only about 1,5% of the world population, I think.
It's like someone wanted more voltron's cartoon writing but had to use superman
They started off so well, then restarted *fundamental causality* by *_eternally cucking one of the best characters!_* There is literally no recovering from that.
As a reformed weaboo, and comic fan, this is my worst nightmare.
Kill it with fire.
burn it with napalm and toss the ashes into reactor 4.
Reformed?
@@TenshiKuraiAkuma Like play-doh
@@TenshiKuraiAkuma It was either that or stay single forever lmao
@@MirandaSinistrabro what looool
Awww yes, let’s start off the show with Clark not knowing who he is. He DEFINITELY wasn’t raised as a kid ON Earth or anything👀
It's almost like the writers don't understand the character or something...
Not to meat ride the show or anything but just because you're born somewhere doesn't mean you know who you are Clark clearly has had these issues as a child
@@kadewade8726what? Have you ever watched Superman at all? Or least read the comic?
@@HaruWuu no I'm not a big superman fan but that doesn't mean I don't know the basics I'm just saying specifically in this show, this specific timeline Clark has had these issues as a child and it never surfaced until adulthood because he was afraid of where he came from
@@kadewade8726 okay, He knows who he is. Not what he is. That has always been Superman lore. If you want to watch a show with the same aspect as the show. Watch Smallville. It's live-action. But it's the same as Clark trying to figure himself out.
Clark became a reporter to hear stories of people in trouble so that he could go help them as Superman. They couldn't even figure that part out, damn. And I won't even get started on what modernization does to Lois.
Edit: I just hit the Slade Wilson part of your video. Holy shit.
Rip Lois Lane into a new one please!
What?
@Chainmastress34How is the Lois Lane from the 90’s cartoon boring? This new Lois Lane is annoying and reminds me to much of other “quirky” girl protagonist like that annoying brat from Owl House.
@Chainmastress34 With a username like Chainmastress, it's a mystery as to why someone like you could ever like this show.
@@mdtisthebest6249 This new Lois is pretty much Luz from Owl House, who is such a cookie cutter "u go gurl" from California _trying_ to be relatable. The 90s Lois actually had sass. An actual archetype of the strong woman who gives as good as she gets.
Chainmastress and BlechB are just two of the trolls I've spotted from twitter.
In Lauren Faust's take of DC Superhero Girls, Louis is also somewhat tomboyish, (scruffy?) Although, when she is introduced, you are shown her Annuary Photo with is more accurate to her classic look, as if they were saying that she is so dedicated to journalism (she is the director of Metropolis High newspaper) that she doesn't take much care of her appearance, Livewire also appears in this show, Her civilian outfit looks like it was designed by Jhonen Vasquez, just plain cool, and in this one, she is actually a blogger, for Gossip/Fails more than anything, considering the set-up. But she is.
Exactly, show me the Super Hero girls designs I can tell who they are. Show me the this show character designs I would be scratching my head. They even made livewire an influencer. These people are so lazy they couldn’t even look at a better made show and copy that. It was right there.
Really liked what Lauren Faust did with MLP. Met her back in 2012 and 2019.
@@MrSophire I actually don't remember much about the original, as the Superman show was somewhat boring to me (as a child, mind you, as an adult I probably enjoy it a lot more) but the moment Gundam suggested she should be some blogger I thought to myself _"Wow... The writers were more educated on the material that the show deserved"_ I mean, it's obviously an Else World, but it still has respect for the source Material.
@@prot07ype87 She worked with on classics such as The Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, so she js skillful on girl stuff that appeals to everyone, DC Superhero Girls is no exception, they managd to make at least some of the girls, pretty much counterparts of the mane six, particularly Bumblebee is this show's Fluttershy and Zatana is this universe Rarity. Give it a try, if you haven't, at the very least the first season.
I think one of the worst choices Adventures made was making the main trio amateur interns as opposed to being vets at their job. The DCAU versions were experienced and had been working at the Planet for years (Well, Lois at least had) whereas these new versions are basically fresh off the street; presumably to push the self-discovery angle. It makes most of these characters insufferable because they're not role models or intriguing specimens but generic anime archetypes that are easier to shove into roles. Without the perspective of their older variants, the trio are (basically) just kids and as such have the younger, manchild-like dynamics people're getting so sick of. (IE: One of the mistakes Velma made, other than existing)
I actually like how they're doing Clark here, all things considered. (emphasis on "all things considered") But, Lois is just a generic tomboy now and Jimmy's straight-up insufferable. It's very "hashtag relatable."
Like you said, it's trying too hard to be a western Anime and because of that's it's not making the best impression.
Agreed. I found Clark to be the best characterization of the three. You get the “Clark is who I am, Superman is what I do vibe” from him. Lois is too peppy and upbeat.
You gotta start somewhere, right?
That is quite the thing to think about when a person is a superhero. It *would* take a lot of self control and mature responsibility to control the sort of powers Superman has. He has to not only handle them carefully and wisely when he is using them in full use as Superman, but he has to even be more careful when he is Clark, who is supposed to be merely full human. In any case he has to be careful not to unintentionally kill or hurt anybody.
This show is a prequel for a Superman
@Chainmastress34 What do you mean alternate?
Honestly having watched the show, I think you're just being overly cynical towards it, Gundam. The animation is ass and the writing isn't great but I do think the relationship aspect of the show is pretty wholesome and adorable. And we're missing that a lot in western media these days. Not everything superman related has to be balls to the wall action and him saving people, it's also important to show his development in his early years and how he matures not only into the cape, but into the glasses as well. Still love your stuff tho Gundam keep up the good work
His channel is entirely made of outrage bait. It's kind of his job to be overly cynical and negative towards everything. He knows that's what pays the bills, nobody would watch him if he was positively reviewing media he liked or enjoyed, people enjoy him being annoyed and shitting on stuff. That's the thing with these copy and paste outrage channels, once they get popular they can never talk about stuff they like again, only stuff they don't.
@luisyupari I don't agree with his takes on everything, a lot of these shows and movies he talks about aren't really as bad as he makes them out to be. But when it comes to the social media drama and gaming news he's pretty justified in his cynicism.
@@cabnbeeschurgr6440 Paying attention to social media drama and gaming "journalism" is in and of itself laughable behavior to be honest.
@@luisyupari eh he delivers it in a much more digestible way than some guy in a suit with a 3 hour corpospeak script. It's good enough for me
The animation isnt that bad. The shading and shadows are flat but the art style is okay
It's odd they think he needs to "power up" when superman needs to "power down" to survive around people. Even as nerfed as the animated superman was they had the whole "Its like living in a world made of cardboard, always afraid i'd break something, someONE" This superman "uwu i got punchy by a roobutt, it hurty"
Had that whole speech about how powerful he really is, then is writhing in agony on the ground less than a minute later lol
@@blechb5317Super strength does not equal super durability or immunity to pain. You can be weak as shit but still take several punches.
@@blechb5317 So, where was that respectful tone you had in the other comments? Oh, wait, you're from twitter.
@@donutbevil9669proof?
@@blechb5317It's DarkSeid. If anyone can pull Black Air force energy on Superman, its him.
The one thing I hate the most about this show so far is the running gag of him not able to control his strength. He learned about his abilities when he was young so by time, he became an adult he had control over it.
It's almost like Superman is growing up. 🤔 Who knew?
@@AngelSaintCloudit shouldn’t take year for you to learn how to not break a clock with you hands lol.
@@AngelSaintCloudat this point in this the show happens HE should have control so the fuck are you on?
@@AngelSaintCloudHercules was in full control of his strength by adulthood, so what's Clark's deal? Can an alien not live up to the mental maturity of a God? Lol
Because his powers are actively in flux for reasons that haven't yet been explained but, based on visual cues, appear to be related to the development of "Superman Blue/Red" style changes that are emerging.
I was scratching my brain on who was voicing Death Stroke then I realized it's Chris Parnell...Jerry Smith, and Cyrill Figgus. Not my first choice when deciding on a sinister villain like death stroke. Guess WB was too poor to get Ron Pearlman.
Shows like this are the reason I just show my kids the cartoons from the late 90s and early 00s that I grew up with. Between shows like Justice League, X-Men, TMNT (03), Static shock, Teen Titans, Avatar, etc, etc. There really isn't much point in letting my kids watch, or even read most of the modern stuff.
“Dad can we watch gravity fal-“
“NO! SIT DOWN AND WATCH MY SHOWS- okay this the part where Batman fights the joker.”
@@okayitsdead6631 I should have clarified, I meant remakes and re imagined shows. But you have to admit, Gravity Falls is not comparable to the majority of shows that have come out in the past decade.
@@theodoretaylor5772yea it’s a tier above
@@theodoretaylor5772 Old things good, new things bad.
We need to leave that kind of thinking behind with the boomers.
@TheKeller101 No, we need to objectively review what's coming out and give honest opinions, especially if we have kids so that we can ensure they don't have low effort, low brow cash grabs masquerading as content for children.
It's purely about monitoring influences.
The funny thing to me is you could have said the Power of Shazam 'works' like One For All, because... it kind of does. Billy Batson was a henshin hero decades before Power Rangers was a thing. But the one they decide to make a crummy anime adaption of was Superman. Whose powers never came with speedlines, ominous glows, or rippling fields of visible energy.
You must have skipped the 90s then. People seem to forget Superman Blue and Superman Red.
@@Drums_of_Liberationwould be relevant if Red/Blue were the one in the series.
@@Drums_of_LiberationSo you bring up a brief moment in superman's life that was quickly dropped because it was stupid as a way to prove a point?
I don’t think Papa Gundam knows how much we appreciate him
I watched the first episode of this show, and it felt like it was written for kids who don't understand the English language yet. The plotline is so incredibly dumbed down it's like they don't trust the "intended audience" to understand the plot unless it's directly spelled out for them.
Its a prequel show. Not current
The original Teen Titans show emulated anime better.
Most of the time, this show felt like a kids show. Very light-hearted and quirky humor is prevalent throughout it. Like isn't this made for adults? I don't think Superman: The Animated Series has this kind of humor, and that was actually made for kids.
I didn't like the villain designs and the relationship between Clark and Lois moved way too fast.
At least it isn't Snyder's version I guess...
I can't ever remember bad Cell animation on Dragon Ball.
I Remember reused covers with new background. They did this a lot with 18 and Majin Buu.
The different is, it never looked bad. Super Man looks awful in this style.
"This show has steven universe energy."
THAT!
That is what I felt when watching the first episode with a friend.
This seems like one of those shows in universe that people made as a way to market the hero.
I can just imagine Superman from TAS watching this and saying "At least the kids like it, right?"
Too right.
Superman Vs The Elite did that lol
@@vanillabatcave5677wait what?
@@xXJLNINJAXx The film opens with a silly cartoon where Superman traps 2 vandals with a net following with "Crime doesn't pay", with Lois sayin the show is crap to which Clark responds "it's for charity at least" or something like that. Really good film with a great Superman
Coming back to this after a month. Firstly, the show is amazing. It really understands who Superman is as a character, not to mention Lois. The animation is charming, the writing is solid, the voice acting is good, some of those action scenes are great, and it all seems to get better as the show goes on. Mind you, I thought it was good from day one. Honestly, a great show, with a great Superman. I've never been more glad for a show to get a second season.
3:58 The word "ginger" is an anagram for another word. Just switch the first G and the N! Maybe that's why Wollyweird hates them so much? Who knows.
That’s the first even sarcastic explanation I’ve heard for this bizarre obsession… 😂🤣👍
@@alexfriedman918 It could be a subconscious thing. hehehe
It would be a ludicrous theory if the blackwashing of ginger characters wasnt so prevalent in western media. Like good lord, leave them alone hollywood.
Didnt Superman spend YEARS honing his abilities before he even moved to Metropolis?
That's literally the only thing that make sense. He discovered his power as a kid even in this show
Not this version of Clark, this Clark was afraid of his alien side, so he stopped pushing his abilities. He also doesn't really know what is Krypton or who his birth parents were.
@Horacio_Poggi but in the show, he literally speaks with his Father Jar-El at Kent Farm before he goes to Metropolis. So how does that make sense, and also, in every story of Superman, he has always had a sense of duty to protect those weaker then himself.
@sadimasochist4543 Clark couldn't understand him because Jor-El was only speaking kryptonian. He is only now as a young adult, starting to discover more about his alien heritage. This version of Clark was helping people in secret. It is only now that he is in Metropolis that he is revealing himself to the world.
@@sadimasochist4543 No. He hasn't spoken to his father since he was ten years old, and only did so at 20, after his first battle, in episode 2 - without being able to understand almost anything that Jor-El tries to explain to him because they do not speak the same language.
I wish that people would actually watch the shows that they critique.
I needed a laugh this morning, and Gundam always provides multiple. Thank you, good sir.
You know what’s funny that Batman the animated series and the follow up the new adventures of Batman were also for kids but were as dark as it got but still respects the intelligence of the viewer
And this doesn't?
If you watch the animated series you know what I’m talking it’s hard to put it into words for me but it does show don’t tell and even respects the character of Batman and doesn’t rewrite him to be who am I or the self Journey
@@toddbata8644 I have multiple times, debatable to a certain degree as they did change certain things but still respect the heart of the character, but go into detail of how this doesn't respect human intelligence.
@@toddbata8644 I have seen it and can you provide me evidence of it's show don't tell story writing exactly? Because I've only had seen scenes where you are just able to read a character before they even open their mouths.
That's debatable as they did rewrite Batman in that series compared to the comics and lore but they still stayed true to the character. Can you provide me examples of how how this show doesn't?
The sad thing is, I've always wanted an animated Superman show about Clark trying to 'be normal' and not let his powers get out of hand- as if to show that being Superman and crushing supervillains is the easy part of his life, but being Clark Kent and opening doors or shaking hands is the real challenge in his life.
But this is... bad.
eh from what ive seen people say it's not.
@@1roxyfan491 I don't give six sideways shits what people say to you
Something tells me you've only seen episode 1.
@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. something tells me you're the kind of person that's gotta eat the whole turd before you say it tastes like shit.
@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. I'm up to episode 6 so far so good.
They knew they couldn't get away with making Superman black so they compensated by making literally every other character black or brown.
So Superman is a Huwite minority in a Tropical/Indian/African Metropolis..... Way to go Western guys
Who cares? 🤷♂️
@@INTHEAM55they do obviously, it’s a constant obsession that they do with every single franchise.
Well you want them white but be trans?
What's funny death stroke was already black was turned white for some reason 😂
This is clearly not Lois Lane, but I don't hate the character design. Vaguely tomboy girls that are still girly are pretty great, after all.
She straight up looks like a boy and pretty much acts like a boy. Keep it real..
@@michaelquaid4679 At least pretend to have watched the show that you're criticizing.
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yea tomboys are great been a real lack of them
@@michaelquaid4679 i mean thats kinda how tomboys act
@michaelquaid4679 yeah, it's called a TOMBOY
Let's face it...the few people that like this show, like it because of tan tomboy Lois and not because Superman.
Tan tomboys are just too popular.
Or think clark is hot. And this show is very focused on these two, so it makes sense for the attractiveness of both be the selling point to an extent.
But also people are happy to have a not edgy superman. That honestly the biggest one.
@@dodonixx953Superman isn't edgy 😂
@@dodonixx953they changed everything about Superman. "WhO AM I " 😂
@@JaWe-qx3td yea he isnt anymore, which is good. The who am i questioning isn't new either, i dunno were you got that idea.
@@dodonixx953 Superman always was a symbol for humanity or whatever, he isn't suppose to be edgy