The Mpc does have a similar method of step sequencing , I’ve only just found it myself. Just go into list mode and step through using tc setting as step length.
Thanks for watching! I was pretty pleased with the result I got from both boxes - QY70s drums are a bit old-fashioned, but apart from that, I thought it sounded really good, albeit slightly different. But that's to be expected.
I like using portable hardware devices for gigs - I can carry them in my panniers and e-bike to the gig. This looks like a lot of fun and, more importantly, it sounds really good even after nearly thirty years. I'd happily add a dedicated drum machine and bass synth to the mix - you don't want everything to be in one box (otherwise, why go DAWless?), you get better, more controllable sounds and the audience likes to see you keep the plates spinning rather than just standing over one device, pushing buttons. Great video.
Awesome video, Floyd! In this particular example, the really staggering differences in finished results between QY70 and MPC One are drum sounds, the kick is TOO clicky on MPC though. As you mentioned in the comments, RS7000 vs MPC One was probably a better match, due to RS7000 offering a lot more options than QY70/QY100. I know that's not the point of this video though, but I would rather treat my QY100 like an external sound module: use internal sequencer to program some stuff (even though sometimes it can be a hassle)... and then record audio output, track by track in DAW. Not that QY has bad effects, they're just aren't as tweakable as VST... with them you can push built-in drum sounds to a new level! And it irks me very much how QY70 has a much better clap sample than QY100 xD
Thank you very much! To be honest, when I finished this video, I wanted to throw it into the bin because I felt I approached the whole thing from a wrong angle. One of my ideas was indeed to record everything track by track and then polish it in Reaper. But then again, that would have kind of missed the point (plus I already did that in this channel with the Lo Fi Hiphop track ruclips.net/video/p3mqlV-K2Oo/видео.html ) Overall, I think the QY70 held up surprisingly well, only the the drums are a bit out of fashion ;-)
@@dave3987 To be honest, I like Cubase more, if you have the resources to buy the full verrsion. I resorted to Reaper because most of my RUclips pâls use it, so working on projects together is less of a hassle. Reaper is pretty good all in all, but it takes some time getting used to.
One has to admit that the MPC sounds so much better. BUT. The QY70 has an arranger, and it is a lot of fun. I know what device I'm looking for to own :)
There is no portable box that does the reharmonisation thing. That's why RUclips is full of synth jams that stay on the same chord for 20 minutes straight. ;-)
Haha nice book 📚. Amazing song, incredible machine. Didn't know you had other refaces in the series apart from the beloved DX! Edit: ups, not yours, got it
Thanks for watching! If I had invested more time, I propably would have polished the sound even more (by adding more layers and adding more controller information). I think the only thing that _really_ lets the QY70 down are it's y2k drum sounds. MPCs drum plugin delivers quite some punch compared to that.
That's a LED pixel display / bluetooth speaker by a company named Divoom. Here's a link amzn.to/3WL3198 You can upload or create your own animations or pictures with these. Beautiful. :)
The QY-70 (I got a QY-100) is more of an Arranger and not so much of a sequencer. You can use it as a simple 16 track sequencer though. The RS-7000 is more of a match to the MPC.
Thanks for watching! You're right. I made that comparison video (RS7000 vs MPC) a year or so ago and indeed that was a close match. But I think the QY70 didn't sound nearly as bad as we all expected ;)
@@mr_floydst I have a collection of MIDI files in the XG/XF format and they sound amazing on my QY100. Last week I bought a Geerdes Midi file with the Ulla Meinecke song "Die Tänzerin" with a famous DX7 E-Piano track. It was done with Roland's GM2 extensions and it also sounds amazing on my Fantom G6/7 keyboards. When I load them DAWs like Logic or Bitwig they all sound awful. These GM devices are underrated, because people never utilized them to their full extent. Arrangers and GM files don't have to sound cheesy and cheap. Some people even make nice Trance and Techno tracks on QY machines.
Have the Yamaha rs7000 along with the Modx6 both work great together. Its disappointing that Yamaha scraped the step sequencer, time scretch and chop features.
@mr_floydst well, I can tell you it offers a lot of bang for ca. 200€. The keyboard is very good, and the interaction of the cutoff and rez/ band filters creates some highly original sounds. which I'd dare say are unique to this synth. It certainly isn't on anyone's raders at the moment. It also doubles as a good midi controller keyboard.
Thanks! Well, I think it is fun to use ;-) It's not as "interactive" as modern groove boxes, but it's more focused on arranging / creating songs. Once done with that, press play and sing / play guitar. ;-)
There is literally nothing like the QY range available these days. Not sure what Yamaha was thinking with the Seqtrak - why not a modern QY? I've looked at every modern hardware sequencer and nothing comes close - the PolyEnd Tracker Mini, maybe but I prefer to be able to work with more than one note at a time... But yeah, the QY100 is literally my only 'synth' right now. Using it to make synthwave and it's incredibly powerful when you dive into the settings.
Yes, the QYs are exceptional devices and I totally agree. (It also has to be pointed out the MPC One is a standout device as well, with its own strengths and weaknesses, but it's a future classic without doubt)
hi again sorry about my questions, I´d like to by a midi arturia mini lab3 keyboard or behringer swing, which one would be better to use the sounds or connectivity with my yamaha QY10. thanks again for unswering so soon
hi , I still keep my QY 10 but, which one is for you a better choice, or better value for money, if I may ask you, QY70 or QY 100 or QY300? and what memory cards do they use ? if I will still be able to get them, buy them. The reason why I´m asking you all , is because I´m thinking to buy one second hand and don´t know which one. Your videos are amazing honestly, and sometimes we don´t realize that not always new things are better......thanks a lot
Thanks! They all have their advantages and disadvantages. QY300: nice, big, sturdy, lots of buttons and controls QY100: small, portable, audio in for vocalists and guitarists QY70: even smaller, no audio in, but "groove templates" (which quantize your drum parts according to several traditional styles) I ultimately kept the QY70, it's nice and small, and I like my gadgets. The QY100 uses smartmedia cards, those are obsolete now. Transferring finished songs to a computer from these devices is challenging, to put it like this.
Hello Thanks for the video . I recently connected my qy100 via midi with mpc one + I wanted to use the loop drums on the pattern mood to trigger the drums track on mpc . But it mixed the bass with the snair and some bass drum is silent while I see signal did you try this on the qy 70 ? Thanks again
So you're sending from the MPC One to the QY? Please check your velocity values and MIDI channels. On MPC, you can set up your instruments to not react to velocity at all (which makes sense for creating electronic drum tracks, for example), but the QY will always react to velocity.
@@mr_floydst I'm sending from qy 100 drums tracks on pattern mood via midi cable to mpc on drum track but mpc read the drums wrong and most of the styles the bass drum is silent even though there is signal received on the mpc .
I keep saying much of this new gear is not actually better..They keep trying to SCAM folks to keep buying..Have you tried this with the Yamaha QY700? curious because i have one just chilling..
Thanks for watching! Well, let's be real here, MPC One is way more advanced than the QY70. (Of course it is). This video was more an entertaining experiment to show that if you have a song idea, QY70 is up to the task and can do a whole track's synth part. But it won't record audio, apply compression and mastering effects and all the other DAW stuff that MPC can do. ;-) Compared to other "so hot on RUclips right now" sequencer/synth boxes, QY70 does hold up very well indeed.
@@mr_floydst it's obvious it's more recent so it should have more capability. My point is, all the MPC hype is ONLY among that community, with them bantering on about which of the 20 or so MPCs are 'better'. My Roland MV8800 does most of what's out there, and along with my Tracker, ASR10,and the others I have, it's hardly impressive. I do like what the Isla2400 and Akai MPC Key61 are doing though..
I'd love to see a new Yamaha mini groovebox. A more slim QY inspired box with a modern screen and lots of buttons and modern batteries. But I have to point out this video isn't "anti-MPC". MPC One is the most powerful DAW-in-a-box at the moment with a lot of strengths and very little flaws.
I continue my comments..... by the way i´m a singer songwritter and will need a minimum of 8 tracks to record or if possible a minimum of ten.......Joe Richard Martyn Thank
In my opinion, in the "small portable tech" section, there's still nothing better than these QY boxes. Their focus on songwriting is unmatched. They're arrangers in pocket format, and there is no smartphone app that matches the QY70/100 OS. You have 8 tracks for patterns here but 16 tracks for songs. (Song mode has a pattern track that lets you line up all your patterns in a specific order, and then you can use another 16 tracks for adding stuff on top of that)
Yamaha Mobile Sequencer is a QY. Bit noe it is discontinued and you cannot buy it in the Apple store anymore. It has a QY pattern and sound packet you could buy aswell. I have my app working on iPad and iPhone :) Love it!! Saf the discontinued it
@@mr_floydst I am at 720p, and even on 480p there is that strange stutter. It’s a little, but noticeable. Strange thing: inserted videos (when people playing instruments for example) looks absolutely normal
The Mpc does have a similar method of step sequencing , I’ve only just found it myself. Just go into list mode and step through using tc setting as step length.
Thanks for pointing that out! I'd like to have a more visual experience, though ;-)
Excellent example of how the vintage QY devices still have so much to offer. Thanks Floyd, this was great.
Thank you very much for watching!
How synchronistic! I'm acquiring a QY100 in the next few days! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience!
Cool, excellent choice. ;-) Have fun with that box!
Did ya get it? I bought one a while back to join my 70 and I have since sold the 70. I only need one QY, haha.
I absolutely did not expect this result. This video is a Real eye-opener. Thank you Floyd.
Thanks for watching!
Superb! Perfect work & indeed the QY still stands strong to this day despite of its design & menu navigation. Pity Yamaha ditched the QY series.
Thanks for watching!
Seems Yamaha ditched everything, sticking to AWM2 and FM only. I hope they try some more adventurous stuff again in the future.
Yeah, wish they’d amp up the awm to v. 3.0 and make some hi def multi samples for their next flagship synth. I’d love a proper Yamaha groovebox.
as always amazing stuff coming from you love track and all your stuff ty very much Floyd !
Thanks for listening! Wish you a happy new year. :-)
thank you for all of these qy videos. they have helped me get my bearings a bit better with the qy700 workflow too ;)
Thanks for watching! :)
A good workman does not blame his tools. I see YAMAHA QY70 is still in working order!
Thanks for watching! I was pretty pleased with the result I got from both boxes - QY70s drums are a bit old-fashioned, but apart from that, I thought it sounded really good, albeit slightly different. But that's to be expected.
Merry Christmas and best wishes! Great tune/collab. :)
Hi Fernando, merry christmas and a happy new year to you and your family. And thanks for your support!
The MPC version sounds great too, but I love the QY70!
It did surprisingly well! ;-)
I like using portable hardware devices for gigs - I can carry them in my panniers and e-bike to the gig. This looks like a lot of fun and, more importantly, it sounds really good even after nearly thirty years. I'd happily add a dedicated drum machine and bass synth to the mix - you don't want everything to be in one box (otherwise, why go DAWless?), you get better, more controllable sounds and the audience likes to see you keep the plates spinning rather than just standing over one device, pushing buttons. Great video.
Thanks! Yes, you're right, this box alone wouldn't make your performance look interesting ;-) But it would certainly sound the part.
Awesome Floyd ❤
Thank you very much! :)
Awesome video, Floyd! In this particular example, the really staggering differences in finished results between QY70 and MPC One are drum sounds, the kick is TOO clicky on MPC though. As you mentioned in the comments, RS7000 vs MPC One was probably a better match, due to RS7000 offering a lot more options than QY70/QY100.
I know that's not the point of this video though, but I would rather treat my QY100 like an external sound module: use internal sequencer to program some stuff (even though sometimes it can be a hassle)... and then record audio output, track by track in DAW. Not that QY has bad effects, they're just aren't as tweakable as VST... with them you can push built-in drum sounds to a new level! And it irks me very much how QY70 has a much better clap sample than QY100 xD
Thank you very much!
To be honest, when I finished this video, I wanted to throw it into the bin because I felt I approached the whole thing from a wrong angle.
One of my ideas was indeed to record everything track by track and then polish it in Reaper. But then again, that would have kind of missed the point (plus I already did that in this channel with the Lo Fi Hiphop track ruclips.net/video/p3mqlV-K2Oo/видео.html )
Overall, I think the QY70 held up surprisingly well, only the the drums are a bit out of fashion ;-)
@@mr_floydst yeah, the drums from the QY is definitely on a weaker side
@@mr_floydst which is a better daw repeat or cubase? I can't decide which to get
@@dave3987 To be honest, I like Cubase more, if you have the resources to buy the full verrsion. I resorted to Reaper because most of my RUclips pâls use it, so working on projects together is less of a hassle.
Reaper is pretty good all in all, but it takes some time getting used to.
This was fire Bro!
Thanks!
Hi Floyd =) i really love your videos, and your mix of old and new gear, so inspirational, thanks a ton =)
Thank you very much!
One has to admit that the MPC sounds so much better. BUT. The QY70 has an arranger, and it is a lot of fun. I know what device I'm looking for to own :)
Agreed! Using those style presets is a quick way to come up with something.
The MPC seems to me like an FL studio in a box. Interface is so familiar to me
There are similarities indeed.
Great song!
Thanks!
The MPC is really a linux based tiny touchscreen tablet running a proprietrary app with some controllers in a plastic case.
True. So are many current digital synths, the Korg Modwave/Wavestate, the Nautilus and Kronos, and a lot of smaller devices, too.
@@mr_floydst I noticed that with the Yamaha montage and modx.
The QY70 was very advanced for the time. Actually what can do what it does today, in a package that small, that runs on freaking batteries?!
There is no portable box that does the reharmonisation thing. That's why RUclips is full of synth jams that stay on the same chord for 20 minutes straight. ;-)
Haha nice book 📚. Amazing song, incredible machine. Didn't know you had other refaces in the series apart from the beloved DX! Edit: ups, not yours, got it
Thanks! Yes that was Lanthan's, though I owned all the Refaces over the years, but kept the DX only.
Love the qy videos
Thanks for watching! :)
Hi Floyd, really great track, how did you do the vocals?
Hi, thank you - that's EMVoice Keela.
MPC has better effects (probably more processor power to do so) but QY has better bass sound.
Thanks for watching! If I had invested more time, I propably would have polished the sound even more (by adding more layers and adding more controller information).
I think the only thing that _really_ lets the QY70 down are it's y2k drum sounds. MPCs drum plugin delivers quite some punch compared to that.
Not related to the comparison, but is that a Game Frame making an appearance in the top right corner from time to time?
That's a LED pixel display / bluetooth speaker by a company named Divoom. Here's a link amzn.to/3WL3198
You can upload or create your own animations or pictures with these. Beautiful. :)
The QY-70 (I got a QY-100) is more of an Arranger and not so much of a sequencer. You can use it as a simple 16 track sequencer though.
The RS-7000 is more of a match to the MPC.
Thanks for watching! You're right. I made that comparison video (RS7000 vs MPC) a year or so ago and indeed that was a close match. But I think the QY70 didn't sound nearly as bad as we all expected ;)
@@mr_floydst I have a collection of MIDI files in the XG/XF format and they sound amazing on my QY100.
Last week I bought a Geerdes Midi file with the Ulla Meinecke song "Die Tänzerin" with a famous DX7 E-Piano track. It was done with Roland's GM2 extensions and it also sounds amazing on my Fantom G6/7 keyboards.
When I load them DAWs like Logic or Bitwig they all sound awful. These GM devices are underrated, because people never utilized them to their full extent. Arrangers and GM files don't have to sound cheesy and cheap. Some people even make nice Trance and Techno tracks on QY machines.
@@mr_floydst Two of JayB's videos on how to use QY synths.
ruclips.net/video/QwUWwhrJQbY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/I5u0OEU4f2M/видео.html
I thought my QY70 rendition of this song didn't sound too bad, but oh well. ;-)
Have the Yamaha rs7000 along with the Modx6 both work great together. Its disappointing that Yamaha scraped the step sequencer, time scretch and chop features.
Funnily enough, I recently bought a Yamaha SY85 used. It still sounds great despite its age. And it has some rather unique sounds.
Congrats! That's a great AWM2 synthesizer.
@mr_floydst well, I can tell you it offers a lot of bang for ca. 200€. The keyboard is very good, and the interaction of the cutoff and rez/ band filters creates some highly original sounds. which I'd dare say are unique to this synth. It certainly isn't on anyone's raders at the moment. It also doubles as a good midi controller keyboard.
I remember making some many beats with this and a Roland sampler back in the 90s
Nostalgia can be a strong driver for inspiration, leading to something new. ;-)
really cool track, make the qy look fun to use haha
Thanks! Well, I think it is fun to use ;-) It's not as "interactive" as modern groove boxes, but it's more focused on arranging / creating songs. Once done with that, press play and sing / play guitar. ;-)
@Avrilcadabra did I see a QY100 hiding off to the side in Sandcastles? 😉
There is literally nothing like the QY range available these days. Not sure what Yamaha was thinking with the Seqtrak - why not a modern QY? I've looked at every modern hardware sequencer and nothing comes close - the PolyEnd Tracker Mini, maybe but I prefer to be able to work with more than one note at a time... But yeah, the QY100 is literally my only 'synth' right now. Using it to make synthwave and it's incredibly powerful when you dive into the settings.
Yes, the QYs are exceptional devices and I totally agree.
(It also has to be pointed out the MPC One is a standout device as well, with its own strengths and weaknesses, but it's a future classic without doubt)
@@mr_floydst I must admit I have been tempted by the Akai Force... but I like the portability of the QY, hehe.
hi again sorry about my questions, I´d like to by a midi arturia mini lab3 keyboard or behringer swing, which one would be better to use the sounds or connectivity with my yamaha QY10. thanks again for unswering so soon
The Minilab has more knobs, so if you're looking to shape your sounds while playing, that's the one I'd choose.
@@mr_floydst tanks a lot
hi , I still keep my QY 10 but, which one is for you a better choice, or better value for money, if I may ask you, QY70 or QY 100 or QY300? and what memory cards do they use ? if I will still be able to get them, buy them. The reason why I´m asking you all , is because I´m thinking to buy one second hand and don´t know which one. Your videos are amazing honestly, and sometimes we don´t realize that not always new things are better......thanks a lot
Thanks! They all have their advantages and disadvantages.
QY300: nice, big, sturdy, lots of buttons and controls
QY100: small, portable, audio in for vocalists and guitarists
QY70: even smaller, no audio in, but "groove templates" (which quantize your drum parts according to several traditional styles)
I ultimately kept the QY70, it's nice and small, and I like my gadgets.
The QY100 uses smartmedia cards, those are obsolete now.
Transferring finished songs to a computer from these devices is challenging, to put it like this.
Hello Thanks for the video . I recently connected my qy100 via midi with mpc one + I wanted to use the loop drums on the pattern mood to trigger the drums track on mpc . But it mixed the bass with the snair and some bass drum is silent while I see signal did you try this on the qy 70 ? Thanks again
So you're sending from the MPC One to the QY?
Please check your velocity values and MIDI channels. On MPC, you can set up your instruments to not react to velocity at all (which makes sense for creating electronic drum tracks, for example), but the QY will always react to velocity.
@@mr_floydst I'm sending from qy 100 drums tracks on pattern mood via midi cable to mpc on drum track but mpc read the drums wrong and most of the styles the bass drum is silent even though there is signal received on the mpc .
Have you ever used the qy300? I've been looking into it, as I hate rubbery buttons and love clicky keyboard-style layouts and 90's soundscapes...
Hi, thanks for watching! I never used one. If I ever have the chance, I'll try to get one from the second hand market.
I keep saying much of this new gear is not actually better..They keep trying to SCAM folks to keep buying..Have you tried this with the Yamaha QY700? curious because i have one just chilling..
Thanks for watching! Well, let's be real here, MPC One is way more advanced than the QY70. (Of course it is). This video was more an entertaining experiment to show that if you have a song idea, QY70 is up to the task and can do a whole track's synth part. But it won't record audio, apply compression and mastering effects and all the other DAW stuff that MPC can do. ;-)
Compared to other "so hot on RUclips right now" sequencer/synth boxes, QY70 does hold up very well indeed.
@@mr_floydst it's obvious it's more recent so it should have more capability. My point is, all the MPC hype is ONLY among that community, with them bantering on about which of the 20 or so MPCs are 'better'. My Roland MV8800 does most of what's out there, and along with my Tracker, ASR10,and the others I have, it's hardly impressive. I do like what the Isla2400 and Akai MPC Key61 are doing though..
Hilarious and informative
Thanks for watching :)
Please what's that cool device with the kitty 🐈 dancing???
Here's the answer :-) ruclips.net/user/shortsZC0d_4xyMUw?si=Od6KyXsUyJDSXGby
@@mr_floydst you know I am buying it Right away 🎉🥰 Thanks
They also have 32x32 and 64x64 pixel versions, but the 16x16 one is perfect for YT videos ;)
QY70 is dabest!
Theres no comparable modern-day-machine.
The Yamahas are better sequencers (especially the RS7000), they really deserve to be released with a more modern UI
I'd love to see a new Yamaha mini groovebox. A more slim QY inspired box with a modern screen and lots of buttons and modern batteries.
But I have to point out this video isn't "anti-MPC". MPC One is the most powerful DAW-in-a-box at the moment with a lot of strengths and very little flaws.
I continue my comments..... by the way i´m a singer songwritter and will need a minimum of 8 tracks to record or if possible a minimum of ten.......Joe Richard Martyn Thank
In my opinion, in the "small portable tech" section, there's still nothing better than these QY boxes. Their focus on songwriting is unmatched. They're arrangers in pocket format, and there is no smartphone app that matches the QY70/100 OS.
You have 8 tracks for patterns here but 16 tracks for songs. (Song mode has a pattern track that lets you line up all your patterns in a specific order, and then you can use another 16 tracks for adding stuff on top of that)
Yamaha Mobile Sequencer is a QY. Bit noe it is discontinued and you cannot buy it in the Apple store anymore. It has a QY pattern and sound packet you could buy aswell. I have my app working on iPad and iPhone :) Love it!! Saf the discontinued it
I'd rather use the antique QY70.
Why not both? ;-)
@@mr_floydst Ha ha. I ain't no millionaire. ;)
Am I the only one who sees some stuttering in recent videos?
Hi, perhaps go back from 4k to 1080p or 1440p? Does that help?
@@mr_floydst I am at 720p, and even on 480p there is that strange stutter. It’s a little, but noticeable. Strange thing: inserted videos (when people playing instruments for example) looks absolutely normal
@@mr_floydst not sure if its intended, but yeah the panning beauty shots of the qy70 at the start were like watching stop motion animation
Ah ok, I think you're referring to the panning shots. Yep those are a bit shaky...
Ah, now I understand. Yup, I think I timestretched those.