Sorry about the (almost) muted interview bits. RUclips lowered the volume of the interview weeks after the publication of the video, I assume for copyright reasons. I hope you can still enjoy the video and subscribe for more (unmuted) content! :)
Basquiat's own ex girlfriend/ longtime muse was dating Stewart at the time of his death as well. So it did hit incredibly close to home in that way. Her name is Suzanne Mallouk and she was a very vocal protester of police brutality at the time, and this prompted him to create this piece.
The way you examine art in a broader context and explore how it relates to culture, society, and history is amazing. This was such an amazing video, extremely well thought out and extraordinarily put together.
I've only just learned about this work but, is there not also a gruesome double entendre in "defacement?" The physical removal of face? I'm thinking about Emmett Till
I don't know who told you you NEED to go around collecting trivia about black people- But they were just making fun of you. Emitt till is still dead. Stop beating yourself up and other people about it. That's not justice that's a ego trip
According to the supreme court, the job of the police is to enforce the law. It is also according to the supreme court, that the police do not actually need to know the law they are enforcing, however ignorance of the law isn't an excuse for civilians. Pretty epic.
@@mustafastar2285 yes like I said the police should not be based on land protection but protection of people. That crime is not committed against property but on crime against people.
While travelling in South America I eventually started to notice the graffiti, and it occurred to me that if you really want to know the thoughts of a cities underrepresented, look at it's graffiti.
6:19 as a black man(?) and artist myself i interpret the copyright symbol as a nod to slavery and the fact that we're still seen as less than human in the eyes of police. i agree on the taking ownership of the self interpretation, as its something we had to fight for and continue to fight for on a daily basis by people far more brave than i.
It's interesting that the word "defacement" is written simultaneously in English and Spanish [Edit: not Spanish. But it looks like it's written in two languages in the same place.]
I love love love your videos. I was introduced to Basquiat’s work from “Bird on Money” being used as the cover for The Strokes album, The New Abnormal. This piece of art, and it’s connection with Charlie Parker, has always felt special to me. Loved learning more about Basquiat via this video.
I attended an exhibition at the Guggenheim in NYC centered around this piece as well as others that referenced the murder of Michael Stewart at the hands of the NYPD. I live in NYC and remember when Stewart was murdered. Great vid.
I love how he cut out harrings wall and got it out to himself -- graffiti artists always share walls over years of layerings but basquiat removed it from the cycle and created it as his own land
This is awesome, I love how you speak of art not just in its lines and colors, but including the context and the artist's personality as being a part of the painting just as much as its physical aspect. I also loved your depiction of capitalism with the island analogy, I wish more people would see this
@@lukatrdina5108 do other art video essays you watch NOT mention the artist? I don't know how you came to find this video particularly worth mentioning. Maybe you can enlighten me. What makes THIS essay good?
@@lukatrdina5108 So you DONT watch videos that "give context to the artists"? Just to clarify.. You ever heard of tokenism? It's a cynical and subtle form of racism that is particularly sinister cause it's dressed in "good nature" but works to perpetuate sterotypes and sanitize and pacify those in power with privilege. Just reflecting on people's choice of words here in the comments. What did you think I was focusing on?
I just wanted to let the canvas know that the way you articulate your interpretation and describe the meaning and history behind art works are fascinating thank you.
“It’s the application of a medium to a surface....” I think you just made the defence case there buddy. Another brilliant video, your discussion on land ownership was genuinely educational and eye opening. Just thank god we don’t have to worry about police brutality anymore 🤫🤫
You are white aren’t you? Well lucky you, the FBI states that the most terroristic threat in America are white men. That the most hateful acts and most hateful crimes and largest hate groups are carried out by white supremacists. Look it up. This is not opinion. This is fact. Think before you speak dangerous misinformation that puts minorities lives in danger.
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@@joriankell1983 ugly art is art. art imitates life, life imitates art. life in the cities isn't always pretty, and so isn't the art the city produces on it's walls
Thank you. I have so much Norman Rockwell art. Mostly in the dorm of plates and mugs. I've only seen the first Ruby Bridges.i didn't know there were others. I have one poster of the political 4, the one where Norman is looking at the Abe Lincoln looking opposing speaker. I love Norman bC he represents innocence, but when I found out he did political paintings that just made me love his work more
The video changed while I was writing so my comment is on the wrong video but you can infer I was watching the Norman Rockwell video and replied to it.
Excellent videos and your knowledge of art history combined with your creative video editing makes for extremely entertaining and educational content. I don't think I have seen an art channel in the mainstream as good as this.
When he says "pay in food," just relate it back to "paid in money," which is then used to buy food. And then just draw up the scale, and he has described the capitalist system of private property quite well, if abstracting its actual origins and relationship w/ police for the sake of the hypothetical. I think he was just making it simpler for someone not yet acquainted with political philosophy, or leftist analyses of property.
They all said it could have been me too - there were thousands of kids just like them, they all felt like that, it was huge in New York. Then they knew tagging and the street art kids which Basquiat wasn't one of but did do his own thing, knew it was now life or death, so it became a totally clandestine activity - people like Fab 5 Freddy were in danger - some turned to the art world and legal murals after that, some kept being tag ninjas. Basquiat was more like "Han Shan" (cold mountain) in his practice of phraseology.
I would add that the black figure in the painting has no face... and the word "defacement" as title shows that Basquiat was shocked by the use of this word "defacement" applied to a wall that doesn' have any "face" to justify the murder of a man who actually had a face... but had no face because only seen as "black man"... reason why Basquiat was saying that it could have been him, as black man, no matter if Basquiat's face was not the same as Stewart's face... and so the black figure in the painting has no face... because his murderers were not seeing his face but only the color of his skin, denying him humanity by denying him a face... while, according to the law of property that the murderers were protecting and the use of the word "defacement", they were protecting the "humanity" of the object that the wall is, granting humanity to a wall by giving it a "face" that it doesn't have to justify the murder of a man who really had a face because he really was a human being... and the face is really how you identify a human being... but was denied his humanity to become a "suspicious object with no face" called "a black man"... meaning that the law of property in its own words gives more humanity to a private object than to a black man... I think Basquiat was shocked by the murder... and by the use of the word "defacement" that grants "a wall with a copyright" with a "face" when the black figure in the painting who should have one... does not. Last element to sustain this interpretation, remember that Jean-Michel Basquiat was Haitian and was speaking French, and with French pronounciation, the word "defacement", without the "d", sounds like the French word "effacement" that is meaning "erasing" like the "erasing" of the face of the black figure in the painting... that is a paradoxical illustration and definition of what is racism... "racism is when the color of the skin erases the face of humanity". I love how Basquiat used to point very deep and complex issues in a very simple and direct way 😀... for some people, it can look like a bad drawing made by a child... but it's actually a masterpiece made by a great artist. 😀
Quite the opposite. He was known to tag. As ppl stated, he put some small words or tags on trains for fun. But sure enough he wasnt a complete graffiti artist who painted on a regular. His story is heartbreaking, as a victim of both brutality and a past graffiti artist its hurts to known me or anyone could've been in his place. RIP Michael Stewart
Absolute garbage when you descended into property rights... fact is stable states and systems are the ones that historically have had tbe best property rights, ex. Britain and US
Obviously, this is a tragic story, but I think the video would have been more impactful if you left out the economic theory. I grew up in a post communist country and I can tell you that in practice, when a large number of people who don't know each other own something collectively, it is as if nobody owns anything. That's one of the key things your thought-experiment neglects. Everything communal falls into disrepair because there is no insentive to invest time and effort into it. If you do more, others will do less and you will not benefit from your extra effort. With a group larger than a family (where people know each other and have strong personal bonds), the only insentive to work for the "common good" is the threat of violence. Protection of private property and markets are the reason people can go work without a gun to their head and the fear that other people will steal their dinner, because after all, it belongs to them too. You don't need to destroy civlization to stop racism.
Hello friend! Thank you for leaving a comment, but the abolishment of property rights does not equate the destruction of civilization, far from it. I'm sorry that you grew up in a post-authoritarian communist society, but I'm not at all advocating for authoritarian communism. I recommend you reading either On Property by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon or Are We Good Enough? by Peter Kropotkin.
@@Shawn.Grenier I am very glad you responded, I was afraid that you would shun me based on our diverging politics. I will look into your suggestions with an open mind, but given my view of human nature and the current state of technology, I doubt my convictions will change significantly. This whole topic is too broad for a RUclips comment section, so I will not argue further. Thanks for the reply and for the videos!
The economic theory is highly relevant and important to the racial issue/history here, which having stated your origin as being a post authoritarian communist government... I'm assuming you're probably from a Slavic nation? My point being I don't get the gist that you have the racial or cultural knowledge on this matter to fully understand the impact of capitalism on black Americans. I don't know your country's history so I don't make uninformed opinions on how it should function or when an artist's work is relevant to a socio economic system. I would recommend reading up on that before saying it's not relevant.
@@deli.rat. I'm making a point about the incentive structures of various economic systems. I don't see how that has anything to do with race. My opinion is informed by studying history. What kind of racial and cultural knowledge that would be relevant to my point am I missing?
@@hawk0485 “You can't have capitalism without racism," as said by Malcom X. Capitalism, our current economic system here on Earth, and racism are intrinsically linked. In order to enslave millions of people or give them poverty wages, i.e. in order to maximize profit on the backs of labouring individuals, it was essential to somehow justify this cruelty. That's where race theory comes in. What is it, essentially? It's a narrative, constructed by the ruling class, those who owned the slaves and employed the poor, to explain why it was "acceptable" and "normal" to treat black people like cattle, as well as to encourage poor white people to reject and brutalize their black brethren in the hopes of receiving special privileges bestowed upon them. It is a deep and painful history, rooted in the problem that is private property, and covered up with propaganda. I'm sorry, my friend, but simply everything is political, economical and social. You cannot holistically analyze art without exploring the context in which it was created. And that context is shaped by economics, culture and politics.
I have no idea if this interpretation is supported by scholars (tho I’m pretty sure it is) or if it’s just common sense, but I have an extra word on this private property. Basically, private property isn’t just your home (in fact, that’s personal property), but the means of production. So don’t think you’re bourgeoisie just because you have a house, a car and a nice salary - because you’re not self sufficient (you have to pay taxes and buy food) and you don’t have accumulated wealth. The middle class is proletariat, not bourgeoisie.
I enjoy your videos and insight. I feel I must point-out that It's unfortunate Communism and or Marxist ideas do not work though. It ultimately ends with more inequality and suffering than almost any other form of government tried in history, and there are numerous examples to point too across many different cultures that attempted it. How many tens of millions of people need to die before left-wing 'intellectuals' will consider that they could be wrong? Basquiat's paintings are interesting and inspiring, and I do enjoy this one, but like many great artists in history, thank god they aren't in-charge of policy. We would all be living in North Korea.
" It's unfortunate Communism and or Marxist ideas do not work though. It ultimately ends with more inequality and suffering " there has never been Marxism in practice
doesnt help that american government puts in billions of dollars to destabalize and undercut any possible socialist or communist development worldwide. I think thats something we always have to keep in mind when saying "communism doesnt work", there are many powerful people who dont want anything even similar to communism or socialism to work and those people have lots of money and lots of manpower
Marxist ideas ‘don’t work’ (nice way of saying ends with horrific death tolls worse than the holocaust) because the concepts are flawed to the core. But like all communists, when something doesn’t work, instead of taking responsibility and figuring out the facts of the issue, it’s easier to just blame others. The popular take these day being the USA.
You realize that the Korean War is technically still ongoing, right? The stuff that western media publicizes about it is literally war propaganda. Look into the absolute atrocities that the US committed against the Koreans while that war was hot and think about that whenever people say that "communism doesn't work"
Maybe the remaining people wouldn't starve if they worked for the land owners and got a portion of food for their work, after all they're all in this together, kumbaya and all that. I mean they wouldn't have to manage everything to do with the incredibly complex process of farming and perhaps the land owners accumulate more land because they're better at farming, and not everybody owning everything with a majority not knowing anything about farming.
Landowners, in their role as landowners, don't do anything but exploit. So why should they exist at all? You can have managers, teachers, farmers without any of them claiming the land for themselves. Also, it's not the landowners who are doing the farming, it's the landless workers, who do not benefit from working harder or better because the fruits of their labor are taken from them. The only people that get to accumulate in this situation are the ones who already have property to begin with.
Wasn't it the case that grafitists got the choice of a kicking or a mark on their record? And basquiat was shit - with the choice of artists on offer why did they choose him?
RUclips lowered the volume of the interview weeks after the publication of the video, I assume for copyright reasons. It's quite frustrating but there isn't much I can do there. Aside from that, happy to have wasted your time!
No Basquiat didnt make the painting basic and simple intentionally, he did it this way bc thats the best he could do. Basquiat was a terrible artist whos success is 100 defined by its massive body of repetitive work. Ill never understand the 80s NY definition of art
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Sorry about the (almost) muted interview bits. RUclips lowered the volume of the interview weeks after the publication of the video, I assume for copyright reasons. I hope you can still enjoy the video and subscribe for more (unmuted) content! :)
"graffiti is the application of a medium to a surface"
That man just described art
the medium is ideas and the surface is your brain.
Proceeds to give a great definition of art
That would imply the original paint job was also art...
@@jamesklark6562 and the mix of the 2, a collaboration (:
"Ya EVA NOTIS HOW A BlAcK MAN DOA AWT LEIK DIIIIIIIIIS
ANDA HOOWHITE MAN DOOAW AWT LEIK DIIIIS"
Imagine wanting to be this annoying
Basquiat's own ex girlfriend/ longtime muse was dating Stewart at the time of his death as well. So it did hit incredibly close to home in that way. Her name is Suzanne Mallouk and she was a very vocal protester of police brutality at the time, and this prompted him to create this piece.
this is an incredibly sad additional piece of information...
"Graffiti is not art. It is the application of a medium to a surface." You mean...like art?
Exactly what I thought
this hahaha
So by this logic if I smeared poop on a wall you would call that art
@@technicaldifficulties1294 Yup
@@annaolson4828 ok so what if I covered a wall with human blood and entrails would that be considered art?
The way you examine art in a broader context and explore how it relates to culture, society, and history is amazing. This was such an amazing video, extremely well thought out and extraordinarily put together.
I've only just learned about this work but, is there not also a gruesome double entendre in "defacement?" The physical removal of face? I'm thinking about Emmett Till
That was also my thought!
I don't know who told you you NEED to go around collecting trivia about black people-
But they were just making fun of you. Emitt till is still dead. Stop beating yourself up and other people about it.
That's not justice that's a ego trip
@@John_Malka-titswtf
The police should not be based on land protection but protection of people. That crime is not committed against property but on crime against people.
What the police "should do" is completely different from what they actually are
According to the supreme court, the job of the police is to enforce the law.
It is also according to the supreme court, that the police do not actually need to know the law they are enforcing, however ignorance of the law isn't an excuse for civilians.
Pretty epic.
Damn bro what an intelligent take, let's make murder and assaults illegal. Any more new ideas?
@@mustafastar2285 yes like I said the police should not be based on land protection but protection of people. That crime is not committed against property but on crime against people.
If should were cans, man we would all get Chef Boyardee.
While travelling in South America I eventually started to notice the graffiti, and it occurred to me that if you really want to know the thoughts of a cities underrepresented, look at it's graffiti.
6:19 as a black man(?) and artist myself i interpret the copyright symbol as a nod to slavery and the fact that we're still seen as less than human in the eyes of police. i agree on the taking ownership of the self interpretation, as its something we had to fight for and continue to fight for on a daily basis by people far more brave than i.
Legendary channel. Surprising it hasn’t blown up already!
Wow! Thank you so much Carter!
It's interesting that the word "defacement" is written simultaneously in English and Spanish [Edit: not Spanish. But it looks like it's written in two languages in the same place.]
it's not Spanish
Not spanish
aint it creole
Thank you!
@@jynxyouowemeasoda5066 technically nothing is creole. Creole scavenges real words from real cultures.
I love love love your videos. I was introduced to Basquiat’s work from “Bird on Money” being used as the cover for The Strokes album, The New Abnormal. This piece of art, and it’s connection with Charlie Parker, has always felt special to me. Loved learning more about Basquiat via this video.
"Special"
Have you ever heard of tokenism, Max?
I attended an exhibition at the Guggenheim in NYC centered around this piece as well as others that referenced the murder of Michael Stewart at the hands of the NYPD. I live in NYC and remember when Stewart was murdered. Great vid.
Always great vids guys, thank you!
Thank you!!
"Graffiti is NOT art."
"You see that over there? Is that art? Idk, I'm not an art critic."
I love how he cut out harrings wall and got it out to himself -- graffiti artists always share walls over years of layerings but basquiat removed it from the cycle and created it as his own land
"The application of a medium onto a surface" is a good description of art...
*stares in sculpture*
@@John_Malka-tits Haa! Actually laughing here!
This is awesome, I love how you speak of art not just in its lines and colors, but including the context and the artist's personality as being a part of the painting just as much as its physical aspect.
I also loved your depiction of capitalism with the island analogy, I wish more people would see this
Are you proud of yourself?
You learned a black did an art!
I bet mlk would be as proud of you as your momma is.
@@John_Malka-tits who said anything about a black artist hahaha im talking about his approach to a video essay
@@lukatrdina5108 do other art video essays you watch NOT mention the artist?
I don't know how you came to find this video particularly worth mentioning.
Maybe you can enlighten me. What makes THIS essay good?
@@John_Malka-tits idk man, i watched many others of his, but here i felt like commenting, why are you so focused on that?
@@lukatrdina5108
So you DONT watch videos that "give context to the artists"? Just to clarify..
You ever heard of tokenism?
It's a cynical and subtle form of racism that is particularly sinister cause it's dressed in "good nature" but works to perpetuate sterotypes and sanitize and pacify those in power with privilege.
Just reflecting on people's choice of words here in the comments. What did you think I was focusing on?
Incredible and informative. Thank you!
Thank you Michael!!
@@Shawn.Grenier have you ever heard of the term "tokenism"?
I just wanted to let the canvas know that the way you articulate your interpretation and describe the meaning and history behind art works are fascinating thank you.
Would you say that if it wasn't a token artist-
Oh I mean, a BLACK artist?
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Thank you for this video! It covers and conveys so much! :)
Thank you so much for your generosity! I'm really happy you enjoyed the video!
“It’s the application of a medium to a surface....” I think you just made the defence case there buddy.
Another brilliant video, your discussion on land ownership was genuinely educational and eye opening.
Just thank god we don’t have to worry about police brutality anymore 🤫🤫
I don't think we're out of the water just yet...
@@boilingoden7984 I do. You are more likely to be assaulted by a POC than a cop.
You are white aren’t you? Well lucky you, the FBI states that the most terroristic threat in America are white men. That the most hateful acts and most hateful crimes and largest hate groups are carried out by white supremacists. Look it up. This is not opinion. This is fact. Think before you speak dangerous misinformation that puts minorities lives in danger.
@@yeehaw3792 Care to cite your sources, RUclips Profile "Yee Haw?"
@@-VoDkAsVengeance- lol he got it from the bought and paid for talking heads over at faux news, guaranteed.
what a strong video!!
Thank you Valentina!
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Graffiti is art, case closed
its ugly art
@@joriankell1983 that's just your opinion
@@jackroberts2704 not a convincing argument
@@joriankell1983 taste is subjective. it's ugly art TO YOU, but not to some people
@@joriankell1983 ugly art is art. art imitates life, life imitates art. life in the cities isn't always pretty, and so isn't the art the city produces on it's walls
i don't know why i was thinking this was cyberpunk lore
LOL 🤣
Beautiful video! Pls keep doing the good work👋🏻
Thank you so much for the encouragement!
Amazing video. Very informative and interesting!🌟
Great video!!!!! Wow! You did amazing! Thank you friend ❤️❤️❤️
Aww thank you so much Bre!! That's super sweet and appreciated :)
Thank you for making this video
Thank you. I have so much Norman Rockwell art. Mostly in the dorm of plates and mugs. I've only seen the first Ruby Bridges.i didn't know there were others. I have one poster of the political 4, the one where Norman is looking at the Abe Lincoln looking opposing speaker. I love Norman bC he represents innocence, but when I found out he did political paintings that just made me love his work more
The video changed while I was writing so my comment is on the wrong video but you can infer I was watching the Norman Rockwell video and replied to it.
Thank you your breakdown of lawn n ownership n police was so brilliant simple concise n too the point
Did you learn anything knew or had some prejudices you have reconfirmed with SAT words?
How did this channel take so long to blow up?? I wish we could collab one day
Excellent videos and your knowledge of art history combined with your creative video editing makes for extremely entertaining and educational content. I don't think I have seen an art channel in the mainstream as good as this.
I love trains with Graffiti.
Just an excellent review. So well done.
wow--never heard of either of these men. Thanks for the info! The Defacement piece is cutting.
Dinosaur analogy is more describing feudalism than capitalistic private ownership
Yeah I felt like that aspect of the video went off the rails a bit. I loved everything else though, I found it to be a super informative video
When he says "pay in food," just relate it back to "paid in money," which is then used to buy food. And then just draw up the scale, and he has described the capitalist system of private property quite well, if abstracting its actual origins and relationship w/ police for the sake of the hypothetical. I think he was just making it simpler for someone not yet acquainted with political philosophy, or leftist analyses of property.
Ah the serf doesn't realize he's still living in feudal capitalism 😂
They all said it could have been me too - there were thousands of kids just like them, they all felt like that, it was huge in New York. Then they knew tagging and the street art kids which Basquiat wasn't one of but did do his own thing, knew it was now life or death, so it became a totally clandestine activity - people like Fab 5 Freddy were in danger - some turned to the art world and legal murals after that, some kept being tag ninjas. Basquiat was more like "Han Shan" (cold mountain) in his practice of phraseology.
Alright Mr. "It's not an art form" let's see your tag. Enjoy your 40% beaten wives
incredible video
Excellent. Loved it.
Said the pig to its troff!
I would add that the black figure in the painting has no face... and the word "defacement" as title shows that Basquiat was shocked by the use of this word "defacement" applied to a wall that doesn' have any "face" to justify the murder of a man who actually had a face... but had no face because only seen as "black man"... reason why Basquiat was saying that it could have been him, as black man, no matter if Basquiat's face was not the same as Stewart's face... and so the black figure in the painting has no face... because his murderers were not seeing his face but only the color of his skin, denying him humanity by denying him a face... while, according to the law of property that the murderers were protecting and the use of the word "defacement", they were protecting the "humanity" of the object that the wall is, granting humanity to a wall by giving it a "face" that it doesn't have to justify the murder of a man who really had a face because he really was a human being... and the face is really how you identify a human being... but was denied his humanity to become a "suspicious object with no face" called "a black man"... meaning that the law of property in its own words gives more humanity to a private object than to a black man... I think Basquiat was shocked by the murder... and by the use of the word "defacement" that grants "a wall with a copyright" with a "face" when the black figure in the painting who should have one... does not. Last element to sustain this interpretation, remember that Jean-Michel Basquiat was Haitian and was speaking French, and with French pronounciation, the word "defacement", without the "d", sounds like the French word "effacement" that is meaning "erasing" like the "erasing" of the face of the black figure in the painting... that is a paradoxical illustration and definition of what is racism... "racism is when the color of the skin erases the face of humanity". I love how Basquiat used to point very deep and complex issues in a very simple and direct way 😀... for some people, it can look like a bad drawing made by a child... but it's actually a masterpiece made by a great artist. 😀
Get him to 500k. I’m not asking.
Love this!
I'm not sure if I think Rob zombie mentioned that event in a Joe Rogan interview
Michelle Shocked wrote a song about Stewart's murder called Graffiti Limbo.
“Black body”? What a dehumanizing way to refer to people…
I understand that Graffiti is forbidden, because the surface, it's applied on, usually doesn't belong to the artist...
2:30 did into the spider verse refrenve this piece?
Really? where?
"I'm not an art criminal"
incredible.
Nice coconut island analogy.
FYI Michael Stewart was NOT a graffiti artist and was NOT known to tag.
Quite the opposite. He was known to tag. As ppl stated, he put some small words or tags on trains for fun. But sure enough he wasnt a complete graffiti artist who painted on a regular. His story is heartbreaking, as a victim of both brutality and a past graffiti artist its hurts to known me or anyone could've been in his place. RIP Michael Stewart
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Absolute garbage when you descended into property rights... fact is stable states and systems are the ones that historically have had tbe best property rights, ex. Britain and US
Are you sure Picasso didn’t draw that?
i bet homeboy faught with the cops
Graffiti is a crime, subject to summary beating by cops. Got it.
They are Locs
I think Rob Zombie was witness to that murder
Someone explain to this guy how much a basqueat and a banks goes for
Obviously, this is a tragic story, but I think the video would have been more impactful if you left out the economic theory. I grew up in a post communist country and I can tell you that in practice, when a large number of people who don't know each other own something collectively, it is as if nobody owns anything. That's one of the key things your thought-experiment neglects. Everything communal falls into disrepair because there is no insentive to invest time and effort into it. If you do more, others will do less and you will not benefit from your extra effort. With a group larger than a family (where people know each other and have strong personal bonds), the only insentive to work for the "common good" is the threat of violence. Protection of private property and markets are the reason people can go work without a gun to their head and the fear that other people will steal their dinner, because after all, it belongs to them too. You don't need to destroy civlization to stop racism.
Hello friend!
Thank you for leaving a comment, but the abolishment of property rights does not equate the destruction of civilization, far from it. I'm sorry that you grew up in a post-authoritarian communist society, but I'm not at all advocating for authoritarian communism.
I recommend you reading either On Property by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon or Are We Good Enough? by Peter Kropotkin.
@@Shawn.Grenier I am very glad you responded, I was afraid that you would shun me based on our diverging politics. I will look into your suggestions with an open mind, but given my view of human nature and the current state of technology, I doubt my convictions will change significantly. This whole topic is too broad for a RUclips comment section, so I will not argue further. Thanks for the reply and for the videos!
The economic theory is highly relevant and important to the racial issue/history here, which having stated your origin as being a post authoritarian communist government... I'm assuming you're probably from a Slavic nation? My point being I don't get the gist that you have the racial or cultural knowledge on this matter to fully understand the impact of capitalism on black Americans. I don't know your country's history so I don't make uninformed opinions on how it should function or when an artist's work is relevant to a socio economic system. I would recommend reading up on that before saying it's not relevant.
@@deli.rat. I'm making a point about the incentive structures of various economic systems. I don't see how that has anything to do with race. My opinion is informed by studying history. What kind of racial and cultural knowledge that would be relevant to my point am I missing?
@@hawk0485 “You can't have capitalism without racism," as said by Malcom X. Capitalism, our current economic system here on Earth, and racism are intrinsically linked. In order to enslave millions of people or give them poverty wages, i.e. in order to maximize profit on the backs of labouring individuals, it was essential to somehow justify this cruelty. That's where race theory comes in. What is it, essentially? It's a narrative, constructed by the ruling class, those who owned the slaves and employed the poor, to explain why it was "acceptable" and "normal" to treat black people like cattle, as well as to encourage poor white people to reject and brutalize their black brethren in the hopes of receiving special privileges bestowed upon them. It is a deep and painful history, rooted in the problem that is private property, and covered up with propaganda.
I'm sorry, my friend, but simply everything is political, economical and social. You cannot holistically analyze art without exploring the context in which it was created. And that context is shaped by economics, culture and politics.
I have no idea if this interpretation is supported by scholars (tho I’m pretty sure it is) or if it’s just common sense, but I have an extra word on this private property.
Basically, private property isn’t just your home (in fact, that’s personal property), but the means of production. So don’t think you’re bourgeoisie just because you have a house, a car and a nice salary - because you’re not self sufficient (you have to pay taxes and buy food) and you don’t have accumulated wealth. The middle class is proletariat, not bourgeoisie.
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neolibs loosing their mind rn
Wat
I enjoy your videos and insight. I feel I must point-out that It's unfortunate Communism and or Marxist ideas do not work though. It ultimately ends with more inequality and suffering than almost any other form of government tried in history, and there are numerous examples to point too across many different cultures that attempted it. How many tens of millions of people need to die before left-wing 'intellectuals' will consider that they could be wrong? Basquiat's paintings are interesting and inspiring, and I do enjoy this one, but like many great artists in history, thank god they aren't in-charge of policy. We would all be living in North Korea.
" It's unfortunate Communism and or Marxist ideas do not work though. It ultimately ends with more inequality and suffering "
there has never been Marxism in practice
@@brmbkl So you think you could do it better than the Russians, Chinese's, Cambodians, Koreans, Cubans... ? -I think not.
doesnt help that american government puts in billions of dollars to destabalize and undercut any possible socialist or communist development worldwide. I think thats something we always have to keep in mind when saying "communism doesnt work", there are many powerful people who dont want anything even similar to communism or socialism to work and those people have lots of money and lots of manpower
Marxist ideas ‘don’t work’ (nice way of saying ends with horrific death tolls worse than the holocaust) because the concepts are flawed to the core. But like all communists, when something doesn’t work, instead of taking responsibility and figuring out the facts of the issue, it’s easier to just blame others. The popular take these day being the USA.
You realize that the Korean War is technically still ongoing, right? The stuff that western media publicizes about it is literally war propaganda. Look into the absolute atrocities that the US committed against the Koreans while that war was hot and think about that whenever people say that "communism doesn't work"
are you really trashing the concept of property my guy ?
Individual people owning property that society needs? Yes.
man pointed out karl marx. THAT A RED FLAG🚩
And the stupid childlike Rousseau
Don't paint shit on other peoples stuff without their permission ffs
Maybe the remaining people wouldn't starve if they worked for the land owners and got a portion of food for their work, after all they're all in this together, kumbaya and all that. I mean they wouldn't have to manage everything to do with the incredibly complex process of farming and perhaps the land owners accumulate more land because they're better at farming, and not everybody owning everything with a majority not knowing anything about farming.
Landowners, in their role as landowners, don't do anything but exploit. So why should they exist at all? You can have managers, teachers, farmers without any of them claiming the land for themselves.
Also, it's not the landowners who are doing the farming, it's the landless workers, who do not benefit from working harder or better because the fruits of their labor are taken from them. The only people that get to accumulate in this situation are the ones who already have property to begin with.
you have to admit, great message but horrible art, and i love abstract expressionism
@Albury ?
Wasn't it the case that grafitists got the choice of a kicking or a mark on their record? And basquiat was shit - with the choice of artists on offer why did they choose him?
Shit art but pretty good video lol
Such an edgy comment, nice
good art, shit comment
what is "good art" to you?
We can’t hear the mayor speaking, music is bad, the explanation about private propriety is totaly out of context. Very bad. Won’t recommend.
RUclips lowered the volume of the interview weeks after the publication of the video, I assume for copyright reasons. It's quite frustrating but there isn't much I can do there.
Aside from that, happy to have wasted your time!
Basquiat was a bad artist lmao
No Basquiat didnt make the painting basic and simple intentionally, he did it this way bc thats the best he could do. Basquiat was a terrible artist whos success is 100 defined by its massive body of repetitive work. Ill never understand the 80s NY definition of art
nah