The Melvins Disastrous Tour With White Zombie, Nine Inch Nails & Feud with Rob Zombie
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I cite my sources and they may differ than other people's accounts, so I don't guarantee the actual accuracy of my videos.
1995 Saw White Zombie release their final studio album Astrocreep 2000 Songs of Love, Destruction and Other Synthetic Delusions of the Electric Head. The album would be the group’s most commercially successful record peaking at number 6 on the billboard album charts. To support the album, White Zombie would hit the road with a variety of bands including the Toadies, and today’s topic the Melvins. It seemed like an odd pairing and it was. The melvins had a horrendous time opening for white zombie and frontman king buzzo would describe it as one of his worst experiences.. Today let’s take a look at what happened on that tour.
In 1995 the melvins were playing support to several high profile bands including today’s topic White Zombie and Nine Inch Nails, a band we’ll talk about later in the video. One year prior the melvins released their album Stoner Witch.
The band would spend almost two months on the road with White Zombie from May to June of 1995. And also on the bill for part of the tour was reverend horton heat and babes in toyland. One review I stumbled upon said the following at one of the shows of the tour in philadelphia. saying “”Considering today’s lackluster stage shows White Zombie over the top blowout was a joy. “Opening act the Melvins went over everyone’s heads and knew it. When the group pointed out that philadelphia was home to the mutter museum few in the audience had ever heard of the famous repository of medical oddities.
In a separate review i found online from robohara.com who wrote
The Melvins have always been known as being a little bizarre if not temperamental, and when the anxious crowd began chanting “WHITE. ZOMBIE. WHITE. ZOMBIE.” about two songs into the Melvins’ set, lead guitarist/vocalist King Buzzo announced something to the effect of, “Here’s our new song called ’30 Minutes of Feedback’.” With that, the band leaned their instruments up against the speakers causing a terrible squeal. The sound man, I suspect not knowing if this was part of the band’s regular show or not, let the instruments scream for a minute or two before cutting the sound. Everyone in the crowd looked at one another, slightly bewildered. A few minutes later the stage was cleared, White Zombie came on, and that was the end of that.
Back in 2012 the Melvins were out on tour and frontman King Buzzo published stories from the road on Spin.com where he discussed the tour with White Zombie in detail saying
“We played a lot of shows with them [Babes In Toyland] back then, and they were always fun. We did a tour with them and White Zombie, and we both got treated like fucking dogshit on that tour by the powers that be. It was a massively unnecessary situation of pointless rock-star behavior. I don’t know what was going through his [Rob Zombie’s] head, but if making enemies is what you set out to do, well, mission accomplished.
I’ve been around people you would consider a rock star, like the guys in Kiss, and they never behaved like that. It just makes you hate lower-level fuckheads like Rob Zombie even more. If I got treated like that by the fing mailman, I’d hate his guts.
The dumbest thing I've ever seen a fellow musician do. Man I don't even know where to begin. One time we were on a tour, I'm assuming it was the worst tour we ever did, which was opening for White Zombie & there sound guy made us stop sound checking because it was bothering Rob as he was eating. I remember thinking what is he eating a fabrige egg omlette, are you joking. Whatever. There was endless amount of that stuff. Endless, endless. I don't know people for some reason they either don't believe those stories or they think that since we haven't sold millions of records our opinion doesn't count.
It was in 2014 that King Buzzo spoke to the phoenix new times where he once again slammed Rob Zombie saying
I mean, do you think on the White 
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I saw zombie live with Pantera in 96 and the only vocals rob "sang" was the word "yeah" about 7,656 times
I remember seeing Faith No More (or Mr Bungle, something Mike Patton) and they had a really weird Japanese band called “Melt Banana” opening. The crowd was not happy, and I remember a guy yelling “go home!”. The Japanese girl singing said “Why you say go home, we Melt Banana, we make you happy!”
I love melt banana
aw man that fucking sucks, melt banana is great. such rudeness
Melt Banana are japanese national treasures. Such an underrated fucking band. It has a totally different vibe of music than most metal groups. Happy, creative, noisy, high pitch vocals used as a percussive instrument, so much cool stuf happening. But i also can't say that i like all of their albums
If it’s the tour I’m thinking of it was Melt Banana opening for Mr. Bungle on their Disco Volante tour. I saw them here in San Diego and dug the whole night. I was on a bunch of Acid and had best time.
melt banana is the shit, seeing them opening for igorrr later this year, pretty hype
I saw The Melvins open for Gwar in '92 (with Tool as the first opener) & the same shit happened. The crowd started chanting "Gwar" and "Too Slow" 10 minutes into their set. Buzzo said "so we're playing too slow for ya?" & the band proceeded to play super SUPER slow to piss off the crowd, and played slower & slower as the crowd got more & more pissed. Sucked not getting to see their regular set but it's hilarious in hindsight.
Oh yes I experienced the same thing on that tour.Must have been a fairly common occurrence,shame cause I love the Melvin's and was excited to see them.
Hahaha thats fucking hilarous. On the other hand, ffs that was a great line up, specially in that year.
Wow, it’s mind blowing that Tool opened for Gwar and The Melvins, talk about going in a diff direction.
@@KelticTim Remember this was 1992, Tool first album came with 1993 Undertow, in '92 Tool was a band with an ok EP (Opiate) and a demo hehe.
@@fungus_am0nguz644 oh I know that, I remember that year almost fondly, it’s just wild to think about that now, knowing what I know has happened to all those bands.
I remember seeing white zombie circa 1996, Rob jumped on a monitor, slipped off, landed on his back and the mic went flying. The vocals however, continued. That was the last time I'd pay to see rob zombie.
The suck started after La Sexorcisto. Saw them on that tour in '92 with Monster Magnet. What an amazing show. Seeing Melvins and WZ in '95 you could tell the effects of the huge blow up. Lost me from there as they ended up being just another meathead/fratboy MTV rock band.
NO!!! LOL that is just super shameful on Rob Zombie's part, super embarrassing...LOL
Hahahahaha
That's hilarious!
People fall...
The only thing sadder than once seeing the Melvins booed off stage in a 15,000 seat arena was once seeing the Swellvins, a Melvins tribute band, booed off stage in a club full of 50 people.
🤔😲😲😲😂😂😂..... Update.. I'm dying to know what that Melvin's tribute band's name was was it like the belvins the selvins, Nelvin's🤔🤷🤣🤣
Sounds legit.
@@floydsemlow8253 Shamalomadingdong twist: It was really the official melvins band the whole time.
The Melvins had no business playing a 15,000 seat arena.
They're a niche, acquired taste; always have been, always will be.
If you attempt to ignore reality and promote them like a a band that could sell a 15,000 seat arena, that's what happens.
Hubris.
@@davetheimpaler204 Or maybe just the audience members could NOT behave like entitled assholes?
I met the Melvins in the parking lot after a Stone Temple Pilots show. They were super nice, gave autographs and their backstage passes so my friend and I went to the after party.
That's what small bands do.
@@robotube7361 No, that's what good guys who aren't malignant narcissists do.
@@ezakustamDon't forget malignant c words like Paulie Walnuts would say. That's what robo tube is.
The Melvins gave me marked hearing loss and I loved every minute of it.
Straight up. I saw Melvins with Green River in 2009, and walked away with very real hearing loss.
For real? Really?
This. Also, Dinosaur Jr will give you tinnitus if you stand in the wrong spot.
I’ve seen the Melvins 3 times and they never once failed to deliver an absolutely ferocious rock show.
Should’ve seen when the audiences pissed them off in the 90s
"A History Of Bad Men" is one of my favorite songs🤟
„A senile Animal“ is a wonderful Album
Love that album.
I think that line-up is my favourite. Big Business are a great addition to Melvins, the 3-4 part harmonies are awesome lol.
Hell yeah me too!!
no one cares.
@Motorheadmike wow, that was the weakest attempt at a comeback i ever encountered. i'll be nice and give you another try at it. go ahead, i'll wait.
I went to see Primus live in 1993 and the Melvins opened up. Houdini had just come out, so they had some buzz. They started their show with at least 10 minutes of feedback and noise. People were not pleased and were yelling, “Primus!” I just watched in awe as they built up to the heaviest shit I had ever heard live - it was either Hooch or Hag Me. Blew my little 15 year old mind. They totally swayed the crowd that night. A molasses slow mosh pit to match the music. I’d never heard anything like it. Bought Houdini and Lysol the very next day. I can’t remember the last time I listened to Primus, but Melvins is still in heavy rotation.
Both bands are great.
Primus is so overrated, what a shitty band. Seen them live on that silly willy wonka tour, was terrible.
Seen Primus and the Melvins. Love em both. But I'm just a tad more partial to Buzz and Dale. First Melvins show I saw, they were opening, was the 30 minute "eat shit" feedback show. I saw them a few years ago during BULLS and the BEE'S tour, it was slamming off the wall kick ass for 2 hours. Did a killer Kiss cover of DEUCE, and I dont like Kiss, lol. But when filtered through the MELVINS they are awesome.
@@sorewreckedum3002 lmfao bro go see them on a real tour
You must be partially deaf
I remember seeing The Melvins open for this high school marching band, and The Melvins were booed out of the high school halftime show. It was very sad. I also saw them get booed out of a Lutheran Church in Akron, when they opened for the organ player.
Can't catch a freakin' break amirite?
I worked in the studio in the late 90s with Buzzo, I was a second engineer, just learning, and Buzz was totally cool, and treated me like we were old friends even though he didn't know me, I became a bigger fan.
@Morgan Smith “proud American conservative”
I’m all for people being able to have their own opinion, but this is an objectively stupid statement.
If you “suck”, you don’t typically have labels lining up to release any of your 7,000 full length albums. Bands that “suck” typically don’t get to have a career playing music for 40 years without a single commercial breakthrough hit.
These guys have played more shows and released more material than your three favorite bands combined. But, yeah…they “suck”.
@Morgan Smith please elaborate on how they suck. I’m all ears
@Morgan Smith they're a legendary band, pioneers in Sludge Metal and Grunge... Sure Buzzo can seem like a major asshole, but that has no bearing on their importance in music
@Morgan Smith buzzo’s hair definitely sucks but the band doesn’t
“Here’s our new song called 30 Minutes of Feedback.”
“…with Buzzo just improvising lyrics about how stupid the crowd was.”
Buzzo is a goddamn national rock n roll treasure.Melvins has been in my top 10 favorite bands for 25 years. I’ve always enjoyed hearing him shut down the Kurt Cobain fetishists too.
My son is named Buzz after King B!
@@kellypatterson9456 Funky, I named my son Buzz after the corrupt ex-detective from LA Confidential 🙂
"here's our entire catalog, called 30 records of feedback" just messing
Idk kind of makes him look like a diva
I named my son Buzz after the noise my hair clippers make
Houdini is a pure Masterpiece record. I’ve seen the Melvin’s do 30 minutes of feedback more than enuff.
Pretty loose definition of the word masterpiece. I like the Melvins, but let’s chill a bit.
I agree that it is in fact a masterpiece. Perfect sludge!
Every song on Houdini by itself is better than any entire Zob Rombie record. Facts.
@@michaelhoward5588 Agreed!
Houdini is pretty shitty compared to most Melvins records, but that was intentional. They were being promoted by Kurt Cobain and it was their first major label release, so Buzzo went more commercial.
Houdini was, by FAR, their most heavily-promoted album. So most people, being told to like it, consider it their best.
I don't just love The Melvins because of their music, it's also because of their longevity and how they aren't afraid to call 'em like they see 'em.
Thats true Punk for you
No, that's true stupidity.
@@JohnDoe-iv7yu 🤣😂🤣
They suck and always have
That's great, just don't bother ever seeing them live. I have twice and it ain't worth it...
I love White Zombie, NIN, and The Melvins. How in the hell could the fans disrespect them so much? That's crazy to me.
Other than “baby-rockers” being a fickle bunch, it seems like The Melvins played with a chip on their shoulder(s).
Those days it was a matter of identity.
Stoners vs. new wavers
In the mid 90’s thru late 90’s there was a lot of poser making actors popular instead of respecting real musicians. I’ve seen it because I was a teenager during those times, and always a fan of Melvins.
@@carlospayan5638 was going to say the same thing. I was about 16 at that time and I remember all the cliques that jumped on the bandwagon because of how popular the music was at that time. Precisely the reason so many assholes did so much damage during those years.
Because they sucked. I saw the show in Houston, I'd never heard of the Melvins but I heard them suck. I'd never heard of Babes in Toyland either and I heard them not suck. Everyone I talked to agreed that the Melvins sucked.
Melvins never seemed to have any luck as the opening act in the 90s
There’s a reason for everything
Saw Melvins a month before the world shut down and they were stupendous. Dale Crover is unreal, in the pantheon of great drummers.
I also witnessed a very similar situation in 1998. I was 16 years old when I saw the Melvins open for Tool in Sacramento on their AEnima tour. During the Melvins set the crowd started chanting “go home!” And “you suck!” And Buzzo just turned around to his amp and produced the nastiest feedback for what seemed like forever. The really insane thing was 3 songs into Tool’s set, Buzz came out on stage to join Tool for two songs, and everyone cheered when he came out. I was like “didn’t you idiots just boo him off the stage a half hour ago?!” I mean I know they were there for Tool, but c’mon, it’s the fucking Melvins!!!
I know I'm a bit late but isn't that Buzzo on Tool's version of No Quarter?
@@mikeyjohnson9596 no I don’t believe so. The songs Buzzo joined Tool for on the AEnima tour were Stinkfist and You Lied (which is a cover of Justin Chancellors old band Peach)
Sucks because the Melvins are one of the most creative bands of all time, but they're lost on (the vast majority of) Tool fans.
Same experience in Houston, same tour. I was there to see the Melvins and the Tool fans were jerks.
Melvins with Rush in San Jose. Hands down the weirdest mismatch ever. It was awesome.
I don’t know if that’s a weirder lineup than the time I saw The Fabulous Thunderbirds open for Rush, or Mr. Big open for them another time
Rob Zombie has a history of being a self centered diva
Yes .....even sean , white zombie bassist has said things slightly like that!
People just don't understand Zombie's genius.
Yes. Even when Marilyn Manson had a feud with him. Zombie completely in the wrong now and forever!
*hard /s*
Yeah but he kinda can because he’s rob fucking zombie 😂
@@wizardofahhhs759 genius? Lol
I saw Melvins open for White Zombie in Houston 1995. I was stoked to see Melvins while virtually no one else cared or knew who they were. All these years later and I've gone to just about every show they play in Houston.
I was at that show, too... I've seen Melvins now around 35 times, and they have never once disappointed. My favorite tour, though, was for the Stag album when they played the 3 separate sets with no opener at The Abyss.
I went to one WZ concert around that time at the summit. Filter was before them and I think a band called wicker man but I could be wrong about the last one. Such a great experience at 15 years old. Not so much a fan of this music now.
I was at this show, 16 yrs old at the abyss. Me and my friend got to meet buzz before the show, and it's the only show I've successfully stage dived at. Good times!!!
I remember seeing The Melvins open for Rush on the Counterparts tour and they played a great set hot their Houdini release and hearing Rush give them praise when they came on.I got to talk at Buzzo years later in NYC and was very nice and asked him about that tour and basically said they were very quiet and easy going I guess that’s what The Melvins like when touring another band
That would've been great!!
I saw Rush once and was surprised how much I liked the show. They seem like very intelligent, witty and laid back guys.
@@hammerhead222 If I got to pick a rockstar to hang out with for a day, it would definitely be Geddy Lee. He seems like such a genuinely nice, down-to-earth guy.
Fun fact: Kurt Kobain produced HOUDINI ( Melvins his favorite band)
Listen to Epicac Records! Making people sick for over 20 years!
All hail King Buzzo!
@@johngrayatkinson1214 I read that Cobian was sort of put in the position to produce the record but he didn't really do anything. But some producers don't do anything and it's all for the best. So it's funny and cool.
Later that year Ramones were opening up for White Zombie and the crowd booed them during their entire set. It pissed me off, because this was Ramones final tour and the only time I ever got to see them live.
'30 Minutes of Feedback' is my favorite song. I like to play that one as a cover, even.
Believe me or not, I can actually do a spot on rendition, that you won’t be able to tell the difference from.
@@BonyHawksToeSkater, me too. In fact, they stole that song from me. I should sue them.
Def their best composition.
Thats my go to, I can kill that song.
The Melvins once opened for Rush, which is very odd.
That sounds like an epic concert.
And Napalm Death
The Melvins also opened for kiss
The Melvins also opened for Karen Carpenter.
@Hybrid Libertarian are you dense?
Rob lived by my dad in CT until a few years ago..He had a huge purple barn in his back yard..He was a huge jerk and would scowl if ever seen in town..A skate park was built behind his house and he would always complain over noise from the skaters would antagonize them more after to which he then moved out of state..Don't know where he stays now
I've never heard of the melvins but after the 30 minutes of feedback story, I became a fan!
I hope you do one about Gary Numan's failed attempt to fly around the world, which is when he nearly crashed his private plane in India due to a bad reaction to an apple he ate, then he got arrested. It was around 1981. I remember hearing him talk about it on one the "Images" interview records.
Rob kind of sounds like a spoiled princess, lol.
Woah! More Gary Numan videos UPVOTE!
Wouldn't this have been right around the time that Gary's hit song "Planes" came out?
That's the only way to live.
Yeah , every time I have ever heard Rob Zombie interviewed he always comes off as a conceited schmuck, like he is doing a massive favor to share any of his precious time with whoever “commoner” is interviewing him. That is elitist rock star crap does not vibe with King Buzzo.
He kind of is. And you can see it all over his early music videos...
At the height of popularity, with Sean and Jay looking to do one more album, he decided to dissolve the band to go solo.
It was weird to someone on the outside...
And the music he initially released was basically the exact same style of music he had been releasing the previous decade. But worse.
White Zombie was dipping in to Progressive Metal. Every member contributed to the sound and all the pieces complimented each other. Sean's bass-lines, riffs and hooks were frequently their signature. The Drums were always driving along and Yeunger's Guitar was frequently wandering, screaming and great especially when it came back to accent Sean. And Rob's weird barely decipherable moaning growl fit into it well enough.
All that really stood out in Rob's solo effort was Rob. Except when he stopped singing for a second to let a decent riff or hook take center stage briefly.
And Rob's singing isn't strong enough to carry a band's sound.
“Can you feel my love, Buzz?” - KC
Love Buzz was released in 1969 (Nirvana covered it) but I love your play on it! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Buzz
To infinity and beyond?
@@mattrock12 shocking Blue. Surprised u left that off
Melvins and Beat Happening at the North Shore Surf Club in Olympia WA circa '89 was one of the better shows I've been to.
30 minutes of feedback
That’s a classic statement
The sound must be epic
Yeah bulshit to that
Sweet
I've always thought King Buzzo's stage name sounded like a bad ass Super Mario/Donkey Kong stage boss. Imagine this: Louigi: Wholly Rigatoni Mario, look out! It's King Buzzo and his Melvin minions!
😅😅
No sir King buzzo would be the name of the leader clown think about it we're done here
Love The Melvins. They play awesome music.
I agree, it's sad that they have undergone a similar treatment
You just go ahead and keep that love alive
They sure fucking do.
Hell yeah! 🤘
@Morgan Smith Typical Rob Zombie fanboy remark.
Saw the Melvins open for GWAR in 1992. I’m not sure that I or the crowd really got them either. And it was a pretty mixed group as no one knew what to expect from the headliner. Skinheads, skate punks, metal heads, etc. Definitely not die hards or a mean spirited group. They even crowd surfed later during GWAR’s joke opening band (which was slaughtered halfway through, of course). “The more you throw things, and the more you boo, the less I care.”, said Buzzo in a mock sobbing tone. You really have to hear them, and draw your own conclusion. It seems almost like the black licorice of rock music. A few people absolutely love it. Super high end restaurants specialize in taste-memories, like a summer day or burning tires or stuff. Maybe it’s like that.
The Melvins destroy Gwar.
I didn't get the Melvin's the first time I saw them (open for Nirvana their last show before hiring Dave Grohl). Fortunately one of my friends did, and a month later Ozma/Gluey Porch Treatments was spending as much time in my tape players as Bleach, Louder Than Love, and Ritual De Lo Habitual.
@The Hype Is Real why's that?
@The Hype Is Real au contrare, buddy. Dave Grohl brought power, consistency and backing vocals to Nirvana and made them a better band.
Excellent records all.
Right on! All excellent records, and the very ones I also put in the back burner a bit, fir Ozma / GPT
It's a wierd thing with rock audiences. They're there to see the main act and shut themselves off from anything else. I can understand Buzzo's frustration and the Melvins reaction to this crap. The Melvins are awesome.
That tour was my first exposure to the Melvins. Thing is, I still listen to the Melvins today. I haven't listened to white zombie or rob zombie in like twenty years
I know bands hate doing the promo routine, but it does pay off. If you are a headliner and you ask a band you like to be an opening act, you almost owe it to them.
A lot of issues could be solved by the headliners going on local radio before a show and letting their fans know about the opening act. Maybe hype them up a bit, or at least tell the people something like "They're different than us, they may not be what you expect, but they are good so give them half a chance."
Excellent Idea.
No
@@SoulDelSol why
@@GrahamPablo i just don't see a headliner going out to advertise for each of many openings acts along their tour. People are likely going to the show primarily for the headliner in many cases. I don't think his suggestion of what to say would really be effective either "they're different, not what you expect, give them a chance". That wouldn't sell it but aside from that it's just not their responsibility (or necessary for them) to hype up their supporting acts
It's just natural too. The structure of show is for opening 2 acts to usually start to slowly hype up crowd for headliner (not the opposite). Many people will be arriving still during first opening act at least. People won't know any of openers songs in many cases so they can't sing along or know when beat is going to change dancing. It's an opportunity the headliner already gives openers to support them, not other way around, and it's up to openers to put on amazing show and get crowd going. If they don't do that, then it could be on opening act, could be a closed minded audience, or bad selection for who the opener is stylistically, but again people ultimately just didn't come for them.
They fill the time until it starts to get late, people are all there (often with some drinks in them), people are comfortable yet apprehensive for their favorite band of many years to finally come out. the lights go out and 15,000 waiting people finally let it all out to see their band on stage, a slow riff enters, some smoke and lights, and then BOOM into strong first track for headliner's set. Crowd goes nuts. The opener is just not gonna get that by definition and there's not much that can be done for it. Big bands don't want to open, they headline their own tours. it's a way smaller bands get some exposure and again it's on them to sell themselves.
@@SoulDelSol i very much see what your saying. I’m on your side now lol
The Melvins in my home town! I had to go! Watched the Melvins get booed off the stage. In my hometown. A town that booed Metallica off stage when they opened for Ozzy. The Melvins ended their set with feedback, Dale screeching into his mic and Buzz chanting “We hate you all, we want you to die!” Over and over again.
Rev HH told the same Shitty joke that night and the next night 130 miles away. And Rob blamed Sean for fucking up the set when it was he who couldn’t breathe properly. His vocals were the only problem. And the ONLY band with integrity got booed off stage.
Jacksonville?
Ozzy fans booed Metallica off stage? That's harder to fathom than the Melvin's getting booed by WZ fans.
The ultimate booing i ever saw was when days of the new opened for metallica. It must surely have been traumatic to play a set through 45 minutes of insults, middle fingers, "you suck!!", booos, etc. From what i understand that tour did traumatize their singer. I didnt like them either and everyone came for metallica not them, they had a bunch of acoustic guitars and melodies, it just didn't fit. But i can't imagine sharing music you put your heart into only to be told to end your self night after night
@@davidtingley9978 Yes, I saw Metallica open for Ozzy in Long Beach, California, where half of the crowd was booing them and shouting "we want Ozzy!" When Metallica left the stage those of us who enjoyed their set cheered, but as our cheer of appreciation faded out there was a sustained booooo! I've seen several very good bands get booed for not being the headliners. Most people are stupid and rude, no matter what kind of music they listen to.
I went to this tour: Sunken Garden Theater, San Antonio. I had never heard of the Melvins until then. Bought their album, Stoner Witch, the week after and was a fan to this day. They played their set start to finish, non-stop. Beautiful.
Funny: My experience was the complete opposite of Buzzo's experience.
@Melvins
Sorry you had such a bad experience on that tour but your band's performance was spectacular. Real professionals, I would've not known you had had a bad experience.
Your experience was different because you were a spectator and The Melvins had to deal with rock star drama
@@theophany1770 indeed
Did you sneak in? I never paid money to get into Sunken Gardens until I was in my 30's.
I caught a show on this tour in VA and the Melvins were great..a friend saw a few earlier tour shows with the Ramones opening … he said half the audience left after the Ramones finished their set..not surprised
@@ilznidiotic
Hahah. So many ways in
The Melvins caused me permanent hearing damage after they pulled one of their trademark "put our guitars on the highest feedback possible and walk off stage" stunts. I used to love the Melvins, but they're dead to me now after that bs.
The Melvins will always be a great band
Despite everything, I saw them perform live last year in a super small bar venue in a local city and it was borderline magical. Really pulls you into a trance and Steve McDonald is such a great physical performer! The whole band absolutely has star power
Melvin's and Clutch. That would be a good tour.
Yes, yes it would. Saw Melvins with Tool years ago, such a good show.
I'd go.
Yes!
That would be a great show. Melvins and Eyehategod too. I know Dale played guest drums at an Eyehategod gig in 2012? With little to no rehearsal. So sick.
Add Prong and Helmet!
"Here's our new single called "30 Minutes Of Feedback"", that's a mic drop moment
And as the legends say, Radiohead was born.
@@CraigKeidel Pretty sure Radiohead had already made a couple albums by 1995, I don't even like the band and I know that, fucking hell dude
@@vollsticks Did you hear the whizzing noise as the joke flew past you?
@@CraigKeidelOh it was a "joke". Not a very successful one. Seems it was on you, if anything.
@@vollsticks Did you just try to do the old "I'm rubber you're glue" line?
Just saw the Melvins in San Antonio 5 days ago they put on a great show... I think there's many out there that can't just appreciate music and be grateful that these bands came out for you to enjoy
That white zombie album was awesome back in the day. I remember my mom got it for me for christmas and my gma freaked out lol
Your mom is awesome
That album it truly kick ass. I remember buying it on CD and playing it nonstop all summer despite my girlfriend's protest 😆
Was the same with the Nirvana fans at the last concert in Munich. They booed to the Melvins the whole set, and screamed Nirvana the whole time. I think only a tenth of the crowd was into them. Kurt was pissed cos of how crowd behaved towards the Melvins. The Melvins and Helmet brought me to alternative music which brought me later to D.I.Y. screamo, Hardcore Punk, Straight Edge Hardcore, Metal and Powerviolence they had a big impact on my life.
Love Helmet (and Melvins), so underrated
converge fan?
@@buyukiskender7456 Fan of Converge, Botch, Deadguy, Unbroken, Groundwork, Poison The Well and so on from that style of music
wow i need to go back and try to listen to these guys again. So much respect
I liked Rob Zombie better when his name was Al Jorgensen.
Excellent comment. Behaving like a wannabe Al Jorgensen is nothing to brag about. I feel it needs to be said that White Zombie were aah, in my meaningless opinion, um, what can I say. A lacklustre gimmick band perhaps?
😂 😂 😂
I was at the Dallas NIN/Melvins show. It was priceless😂. Pop wasn't there. yes, we threw the floor at the Melvins. I have to give Buzz credit, though: kept playing, improvising lyrics about "THROW! sHIT! AT! ME!," which was recorded and released as "Dallas" on one of their subsequent records. NO, the NIN "crowd" wasn't "lifeless" after that. We were INSANELY amped up and moshing on ice. AND, half of the Hurt video was filmed there. One other thing: the floor started coming up BEFORE the Melvins took the stage
Seems like the floorboards had a higher IQ than the crowd.
@@mauharley 😂 it was a bunch of crazy, angry kids. They were holding a board up with a PERSON, and then shoving it up.so the person went flying through the air, and the crows would.catch them. They did this repeatedly, before the lights even came down. It was a bunch of 14-15 year olds.
King Buzzo: Bitter, Party Of One.
Rob Zombie has been playing to tape since the early 90s - I saw them before they got big a few times and Zombie would get winded and let the audience sing and stick to "Yeahs" and "Oww"s. Once they got bigger, suddenly he's singing perfectly? No.
Now that you mention it I swear I saw white zombie early in their career in some live MTV awards show (or some other awards show) and I remember seeing Rob zombie totally out of breath and unable to actually sing the song. I was like wtf? This guy's terrible.
When I seen Rob Zombie at a festival in 2012/13 I will admit it was very disappointing, love his music and his albums... not to mention he’s the only bloke that dances like that.
But the constant audio loops were irritating and not what you see a live band to hear.
I saw them when they toured with Pantera in 96, and I thought Blood, Milk and Sky sounded like the entire band was playing to a tape.
@@nealhanson6255 I saw that tour also..I was on acid and thought it was great lol
My dad saw them at a club in 92 or 93, after la sexorcisto came out before they got really big, and he said most of the show was just samples. I saw his band just a couple years ago and I swear half of the time he wasn't even trying to fake it anymore, like you could literally see him not holding the mic anywhere near his face but you could still hear his voice perfectly fine
This tour is where I was introduced to the Melvins. They came out, got laughed at, and proceeded to blow head off!!!
I was at that fair park coliseum show. I kinda remembered it slightly differently. I was in the upper balcony so I didn’t throw pieces of the floor on stage. One of the Melvins were actually hit by the partial board in the head. That’s when they went off stage. At that moment the crowd was super happy. Then Trent did come up pissed off as hell and mention that he be of the Melvins might have a concussion. Two years later at the exact same venue with the headliner Tool and the Melvins opened. Booed off stage again this time Maynard James had to calm us down.
Damn, DFW has no time for the Melvins 😂
Lameass dallas
Wow, your city is like....so cool. 🙄
Man I fucking love the Melvins.
As someone from Philly, we absolutely deserved that feedback squeal and thank you Mr. Buzzo for giving it to us
Philly and Detroit are supposedly two of the most hated places that bands play. I've heard this from at least 20 or so different bands at this point, from underground to headliners.
@@Luke-zh5xe
Because we dont put up with BS. The Melvins suck. They really do. Their live show is trash.
They really are not good. Yet their 'rep' sells. They constantly ride the coattails of way better musicians.
Edit- 'King Buzzo' had to call the police to be escorted out. The crowd wanted to kill him. Really. Their gear and van got smashed up.
@@Luke-zh5xe why is that?? Aint Detroit called rock motor city or some shit? If the Philly rock fans are like their sports fans then i understand why bands would say that lol
That's the thing...so many times in my life I've shown music that wasn't mainstream to people or girlfriends, and they'd love it - yet would not become a fan or listen to it on their own because it wasn't some well-known mainstream band.
Most women like mainstream garbage. Sure there are outliers everywhere but you don't get a Taylor Swift or a Miley Cyrus or a Britney Spears or a Post Malone without some help.
@@scottmichael9673 Most men like mainstream garbage too...
Sadly true that the great horde of dipshits prefers banal tripe over amazing music. Thus I have few like-minded friends and have had fewer like-minded loves. Of course it doesn't help that I'm trapped in a vast expanse of flyover country--the Bible-Belt wasteland of Okiehoma....
its not whether its mainstream or not. Sometimes people dont like what they dont like. Melvins are not for everyone and that's it. People are being polite to you saying mh this is ok probably.
Mainstream is meainstream because it has universal appeal. Music is also a way of self identification and not many people identify with heavy distorted guitars.
Maybe to you it all looks cool- to me all I see is some fat dude and his bend overendulging themselves in what they like to play. It is as fun as watching a high school band having a jam session.
I dont find anything special about that band. None of those people has any charisma, any showmanship, any talent that I havent seen.
There are metal bands that shred. vocals that sing in several octaves range, drummers that eat little children with 2 bass pedals. Melvins is average in every aspect. Something any of those bands can do in their sleep. So why would I wanna pay money so see somoene do something I myself could do easily. All they had to do is be on the right place at the right time at some 100 people club to inspire a future rock star so I he could surpass me in every level and then pay his respects by wanting to produce my break out album. Then i can milk that fame till the rest of my days.
Every average musician on any of those instruments can tell you what the Melvins do is nothing special.
are they loving it, or are they being polite and giving you the positive reaction you're looking for because they know you love it? and haven't you enjoyed something the first time you heard it, and then not so much after that, or just like one song from a band? you're trying to convince people to like what you like, and it ain't gonna work.
The Damned also had a terrible experience opening for Rob
Heard Damned were notorious for being difficult assholes...Bands that toured w/ them, like Black Flag, claim Damned would routinely tell them "every American band sucks except for Ramones and Dickies".
More Melvins videos, pls? An episode about his world record tour would be awesome :)
Was at that Sioux Falls show. Had only heard of Melvins at that point. Life was never the same.
I worked in production and did all the Texas shows maybe a couple other ones too.
Melvins asked for Nudity Mags, and graphic torture Mags on there Ryder. I picked the most bizarre Magazines I could find for there dressing Room one being a Pop up Camper. Lol
Weird, lol. I hope that was just a test of the production crew’s reading and compliance abilities (like brown M&M’s). I wonder what happens to all those freaky mags?
Every Melvins support tour is disastrous.
Thats because King Buzzo thinks he's way bigger, and way more important, than he actually is
@@Frankenberry The melvins have done way more important things for rock music than most of the bands they open for, and most people in the audience don’t know that
@@rocketsauce420 Look, The Melvins are OK... But I don't see anything major or important they've done for music... and as far as bands they opened for... They've CERTAINLY not made nearly as big a mark on music as White Zombie or Nine Inch Nails... not to hate on the band, those are just the facts. Did they have SOME influence on the grunge scene?.... probably.... but not any more, or even as much, as other seattle bands... Be it Mudhoney, or Mother Love Bone, or The Germs, etc. Seattle was not led by ONE band.. Not even Nirvana... that scene was ready to explode... Nirvana was just luckiest enough to be the first of the bunch to blow up internationally... Bands Like Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Green River, etc. Had already been killin' it in Seattle... some somewhat even nationally... People don't seem to understand that contrary to popular belief...Alternative Rock didn't start with Nirvana lol....
@@Frankenberry Nirvana exploded because they had enough pop in their sound while still being extremely heavy and hard hitting. They were accessible and cool at the same time. A band with integrity and respect amongst the punk youth that was still radio friendly and accessible to both genders. Guys wanted to be Kurt, and girls wanted to fuck him.
@@Frankenberry that’s a very mainstream POV. They’ve been hugely influential in the underground, particularly in the metal and sludge/doom scene. I’d argue more so than Zombie and NIN.
I've still got my Astro cd in the pile.
Cut through the bone and cut though the wire
Saw the Melvins last week opening for Ministry. F-ing great show!
I saw him take the stage with Tool and play Sober. Still blows my mind...
I was at that Philly show in 1995. I remember them getting booed, I remember the Mutter's Museum reference, and I remember reading the article that said they went over everybody's head. I also remember the Melvins pointing out a heckler and saying he had "one extra chromosome." I don't remember the feedback comment at the end of it, but their set was definitely running together for me by that point. I didn't think they were bad, but I can see why other White Zombie fans (and NIN fans) just wouldn't be into it. But the Melvins are gonna do their thing, whether you like 'em or not.
I seen the Melvin's with Tool in Phoenix and we love them , this is the first time I heard they got treated like dogs on other tours which is totally sad.
Tool also worship the Melvins
Melvin's opened for tool in Dallas 98. They were rocking out and even had a decent pit ragin. Unfortunately for the three songs they played most the crowd just chanted " fuck you put tool on". Melvin's walked off stage and hail satanas was played on the loud speaker for an hour before tool came on. I was kinda pissed Melvin's we're doin good but crowd wasn't having it. The Melvin's are a highly underrated band.
I saw that tour in San Jose, CA. The Melvins did a 45 minute set, 30 minutes of which was feedback from their amps. By the end of their set they were being booed off the stage with extreme prejudice.
It was pretty common for opening bands to get booed in the early and mid 90s.
God help any band that opened for Slayer.
I just saw The Melvins open up for Ministry about four days ago. They were really good. This was my only time seeing them. The crowd seemed to love them.
a history of bad men and filthpig go nice together
There’s a lot of overlap between fan bases
@@steverambo4692 yeah because they come from the original same cultures
Saw this tour twice. Good shows. Powerful shit
I just saw Melvins too for the first time. Opened for Ministry and after Corrosion of Conformity. I didn't even know the Melvins were going to be there (The Rave in Milwaukee). After concert went home and immediately dove head first into the Melvins. They're the real deal...
1995 DVD.. huh? Who even had a DVD player back then?
I like the melvins and all but every time my friends bar band plays them everyone rolls their eyes and wanders outside
Your friend’s band sucks eh?
Cant tell if trollo
I honestly get it. I like the Melvins, don't get me wrong. Bu I get it.
Melvins influenced many great bands including nirvana and TOOL
See what you put your friends through
I saw them on this tour when they opened. They were awesome. Made me a fan instantly
Same situation for the Melvins on Ozfest '98 2nd stage Alpine Valley WI. The people who had no idea were booed. My buddy & I dug the entire set.
I saw The Melvins supporting L7 touring for Bricks are Heavy at the Trocadero in Philly. Wool opened the show, and they were good. But then The Melvins took the stage. I had never heard anything so fantastic. L7 was good, too - but The Melvins blew my mind. Been a fan ever since.
I remember buying Astro Creep 2000 on cassette and playing it everyday on an endless loop every time I got home. The tape wore out completely after 5 months and I re-purchased the album, only in CD form this time.
sorry to hear that.
Loved that album
Fascinating! Thanks for this!
I love it! If a band puts energy into their set, they deserve a chance to be heard. The people who throw tantrums and chant the opener's name aren't music lovers - they're posers. As someone mentioned - famous bands get booed or treated disrespectfully before they hit the big time. I remember seeing Bauhaus play before NIN and the clueless in the crowd were disrespectful to them. I say Let Them Eat Feedback.
Rob Zombie also asked for his wife to be lead singer for each of the opening bands.
🤣🤣🤣
One band influenced a generation of great bands like Nirvana, Helmet, Mastodon and Tool, the other band is White Zombie.
Yikes. Good burn. But I respect Zombie to a degree. Unless JJ Abrams, Zombie seems to actually care about the quality of his movies.
@@homelessjesse9453 His latest movie is a dud.
@@jayrum7303 Still better than Star Trek: Into Darkness.
@@homelessjesse9453 Not sure what JJ Abrams has to do with anything. I must have missed something
@@jayrum7303 Jesse Burns respects Good Burns. Jesse respects good Rob Zombie films. Jesse does not respect JJ Abrams films. 🤷🏿♀️
I saw this tour in Utica NY. I don't know about behind the curtains, but The Melvin's put on a stellar set with a great response.
I didn't get to go because I got grounded the week before. Still bummed I missed it. My brother said the Melvins opened with one chord for 10 minutes
I’ve had nothing but a great time at a Melvins show. Planning on seeing them again next February.
Another thing that's hilarious is that Melvins opened for Tool a few months after the NIN debacle, at the SAME VENUE. There were some boos: I mean, NIN and Tool in 95? It was 1/2 the same audience. They played like two songs and walked off stage, and turned on this 5 minute loop of a reading of some.satanic text, and played it for like 30 min. The crowd was PISSED. Then, Maynard came out dressed and acting like a minister. He coaxed buzz out to join him on a tool song. But, yeah, Melvins/Dallas/95 was JUST priceless.
Yep i saw tool on that tour with the melvins, though i thought it was 96 butit could have been 95.
It’s a money thing…those bands are cheap to bring on tour
@@GlassThirdEye It sure could have been 96, but it was shortly enough after the NIN debacle that Buzz obviously had a chip on his shoulder, and the audience was primed to fuck with him again. I don't even think it was about not LIKING them at that point. I think the crowd just thought it was FUNNY. But, yeah, they played that satanic thing for like thirty MINUTES, until the crowd was uneasy and chanting "fuck this shit! Fuck this shit!" Then Reverend Maynard came out. It was just perfect.
Maynard sucks
@@billycole852 I mean...as a PERSON, or as a singer? Yes, he regularly insults his audience and it goes right over their heads. He's like Pink Floyd in that way: he resents his own fans. But, dear GOD can he sing.
Feedback is powerful when used properly. 🎶
So is silence
I was there for this tour at the toledo sports arena. My first metal concert. The melvins were awesome live. Great show.
This puts some interesting context into the time I saw Rob and the Melvins at Soundwave festival. Rob was on first, Melvins were due to start at a certain time on the stage right next to Zombie, but Zombie went over time, by quite a while, at least 10 min. Melvins took the stage when they were supposed to, and just leaned forward as much as they could on the stage to kind of.. look at Zombie over on the next stage. Then eventually just started playing some droney sounds until Rob finally finished.
However not convinced about playing to tape, entirely at least. Live Rz sounded pretty out of breath a few times, I know what the studio vocals sounds like, and it wasn't that. He sounds the same on other live recordings I've heard too. I don't doubt there's some level of assistance though with backing vocals or something.
Indeed. Zombie definitely sang at the shows I was at. Hell, most of the time he only sang every other line or so.
@@xczechr Yea I was lucky to see him before he got to old. He is not worth seeing anymore. Although his show is still one of the best I’ve ever seen!
I was reading a comment someone posted about how the last time they saw zombie he was singing and slipped, fell on his back and the mic went flying out of his hands, but the vocals kept going. he never saw zombie again cuz he was disgusted in that.
The fact that people can't handle The Melvins makes me happy.
I’ve seen the Melvins and I’ve seen Buzz solo and got to meet him. Dude is the real deal and very gracious towards his fans, from my experience at least. Don’t have much knowledge of Rob Zombie, though I always thought White Zombie was like a light beer, commercialized version of Ministry.
Yeah, White Zombie was milquetoast suburban teenage rebellion in a can.
Saw the Melvins last week in Ashville, NC with Ministry and they still kick ass! Same for Al with Ministry.
I saw the Melvin when they were playing with two drummers and it was just epic
I saw the Melvins in Chicago if I remember in 2009. They opened up for Down and Weedeater. I loved there performance. I always enjoyed a couple tunes they had but never dived deep into their music. Stoner Witch, Gluey Porch Treatmeants, Ozma, and Houdini r damn great albums
Now see that's a lineup that makes sense for Melvins to tour with
Actually when I saw them on this tour Down fans were kinda shitty to them too. They didn’t get booed but Buzzo pointed out that they looked bored. Overall it was a good show, but Melvins are best as headliners
I seen the Melvins when they opened for Tool, and they we're awesome!
The story about doing the soundcheck and having to stop for Rob eating was way crazier than I expected LOL
Saw this tour in June of 1995 in Seattle. Made me go buy Stoner Witch right after.
When you call fans of the bands you're opening for Baby Rockers and other slurs, and act childish... you get childish. King buzzos a guy that can dish it out but when it comes back hes angry, got no respect for people like him
Yea i always thought of him as a dickhead. Even about his supposed friend kurt kobain he said shit that was borderline insulting
Because Melvins are truly a punk band and don’t give a fuck about you or your opinions - you’re just another meatbag with an opinion. Kurt Cobain worshipped the Melvins to the point of becoming a roady just to be near them. He even played percussion on some Melvins tracks. Kurt Cobain was a self admitted sellout and that doesn’t go over well with some people who were part of the original Seattle scene... I know Buzz played a big part in a lot of those bands rise to fame and a lot of them now act like they don’t even know him anymore when he went out of his way to support them early on.
@@slipspectrum9253 seems to me Buzzo is just pissed that "WORSHIP MY BALLS, FOR I AM KING BUZZO!!!" doesn't work on (seemingly) most crowds.
Melvins never seemed to get the idea of winning a tough crowd over. Throwing a hissy fit and walking off stage is completely unprofessional, and sh-tty to the fans that ARE there to see you. Alice in Chains dealt with the same thing opening clash of the titans, but they grit their teeth and played through it. I've met Buzz, and he had a very crappy attitude. I've heard the same from others. Throwing shade at NIN and calling them mtv baby rock is hilarious to me, knowing the controversy they generated with their videos. If anything they should get credit for pushing the boundaries of what you can do in video. You can't deny that Reznor takes his art seriously, and deserves that respect.
Buzz is just a smart ass, always has been. I've met him as well. He has strong opinions and can rub people the wrong way,, but he can be personable and very cool. They come from the early 80s punk scene and it's a whole different mentality. No fanboy rockstar worship. I've seen them in a big venue and they were great. Dale knows how to dial in an amazing drum sound. It's not everybody's cup of tea. I guess I'm a music snob but not everybody "gets" it. Its not mainstream music. I'm reminded of the Ramones opening for Sabbath. I read the audience despised them, throwing shit etc. As far as NIN they've become great over the years but I saw them on the first Lollapalooza tour early on. They were awful. Everyone was touting them as this edgy new band and it was laughable. A lot of forced anger, throwing nice equipment around. Very contrived. There's a great story of Mike Patton sticking up for the Melvins when they opened up for FNM. Worth reading
@@mirapilates I think that was Mr. Bungle rather than Faith No More.
@@dexenationgracey1979 your right.
My sentiments exactly. If you’re not a fan of the headliner’s fans, don’t take it out on your fans. I know quite a few people who go to see the opening bands who care less for the headliner. I saw The Melvins open for GWAR in Orlando. The show was sold out and the line to get in was wrapped around the block. Just as we were about to get into the venue, the show started. Then two Melvin fans were begging to be let in,. Saying they were there only to The Melvins. They were told no. I saw them crowd surfing at the end of their set. Can you imagine how they would feel, if when they got in they heard guitar reverb because fudge the headliner’s fans?
@@spidey1z Yah man. Imagine if every band that opened for slayer did that lol. They have a reputation for being incredibly hard to open for, because of the fans. It's not a normal reaction, having a hissy fit I mean. You can try and be a hipster about it and say "were just about the music maaaaaan" but touring a band IS a business, and pulling stunts like that is incredibly bad for your reputation. If buzz had any feelings about not breaking through or being bigger, having that attitude didn't help. Talking about industry guys making it hard for them, well no sh-t dude, you were doing the same for them. Whole thing in funny to me, some of these guys seem like they're mentally stuck at 18 years old.
Saw Rev Horton Heat open for soundgarden in Orlando...great show.
The melvins are awesome and great in concert. One of the best shows I've seen
This vid finally explains why Ive never been able to find the Melvins single "Thirty Minutes of Feedback" Such a great song.