Thank you for providing specific examples and walking us through them. I have always been intimidated by citations but you've really helped me to have some confidence in citing them. I will definitely use your videos for reference. Thanks again!
I just discovered this series about citations. Great stuff! For this one, it would be nice to have text with the "before" and "after" versions of the citations as a memorial of what you did. I actually managed to use screen copy to make notes for the Ancestry video, but it took a lot of trial and error, pausing the video and trying to capture a part of the screen without restarting it! This one is harder, as there are more examples, so I thought I'd ask if you could post the text for us. Charlie
I have been during research for 20 years i have problems with get death certificate /and information on certificates. Thanks you for all the research you had done. How can you help me with some genealogy on John Henry "Dick" Turpin , I have done all of his Military research, But i can find his birth record , his Mother records or his Father records. Thanks for any help you can give Me. Dianne P
Firstly, thank you for the citation series. It is an extremely helpful to clearing up lots of my confusion. I am curious as to why, in the Elijah Pressnell census citation, you didn't use the format in your previous video of "Jurisdiction, population schedule, civil division, page". What is the most common format accepted? I ask because the citations are mostly going to be used by those coming behind me and I don't want to confuse them with inconsistent formats with inconsistent information. I know I can only cite the information I have, but I want to make sure the format stands the test of time and usefulness.
That is a great question. Different census years were recorded with various information and organization. As much as we would all like to keep our citations exactly precise and formulaic, we can only work with what the record provides. So, even a record that was created every 10 years by the federal government has a variety of ways to cite it, depending on the year. Although there are general guidelines and patterns for citations, there is really a lot of acceptable variation. If you create citations that include the layers I talk about in the citation series, your bases are covered and the citation should prove useful for a long time to come.
I don't understand the pyramid graphic in regards to the citations. Wouldn't the person's name come either first or last in the citation? In the second example, the person's name is near the end but not the final entry. I'm very confused. Also, in theory, could I just do the URL links and skip the repository location/film number? Is it really a really bad idea to "customize" my citations. For example, {Person] [Record Information/Data] [Name of Databse (ex. Florida Marraiges 1900-1910)] [website link]
Part 1 -The pyramid graphic is simply meant to represent the citation layers I try to include in each citation. It can be confusing because even in Evidence Explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills (the "Bible" of genealogy citations), the layers are arranged differently in citations for various record types. If it would make more sense to you to put the layers in the same order each time, go for it!
Part 2 - You could just copy the URL links and skip the repository location/film number. However, as I have found out the hard way over the years, URLs change or disappear and collects are combined or renamed. If you need to go back later to answer another question for the ancestor or a relative, the repository, film number, or original data may be the only way to find the collection again. Use your best judgement for what you want in your citations. I have another video coming out soon that will talk about creating your own citation template. That may help, too. In the meantime, you got this! Make citations work for you, and don't worry about doing it "perfectly."
@@BoundlessGenealogy You have a great point. URLs do change and sometimes finding a record can take so long that it's worth it to write down the page details. Better done than perfect ;)
Thank you for providing specific examples and walking us through them. I have always been intimidated by citations but you've really helped me to have some confidence in citing them. I will definitely use your videos for reference. Thanks again!
You are so welcome! Glad the videos were helpful.
I just discovered this series about citations. Great stuff!
For this one, it would be nice to have text with the "before" and "after" versions of the citations as a memorial of what you did. I actually managed to use screen copy to make notes for the Ancestry video, but it took a lot of trial and error, pausing the video and trying to capture a part of the screen without restarting it! This one is harder, as there are more examples, so I thought I'd ask if you could post the text for us.
Charlie
Great idea, Charlie. I will consider adding text examples for future videos. Thanks for watching!
I have been during research for 20 years i have problems with get death certificate /and information on certificates. Thanks you for all the research you had done. How can you help me with some genealogy on John Henry "Dick" Turpin , I have done all of his Military research, But i can find his birth record , his Mother records or his Father records. Thanks for any help you can give Me. Dianne P
Firstly, thank you for the citation series. It is an extremely helpful to clearing up lots of my confusion. I am curious as to why, in the Elijah Pressnell census citation, you didn't use the format in your previous video of "Jurisdiction, population schedule, civil division, page". What is the most common format accepted? I ask because the citations are mostly going to be used by those coming behind me and I don't want to confuse them with inconsistent formats with inconsistent information. I know I can only cite the information I have, but I want to make sure the format stands the test of time and usefulness.
That is a great question. Different census years were recorded with various information and organization. As much as we would all like to keep our citations exactly precise and formulaic, we can only work with what the record provides. So, even a record that was created every 10 years by the federal government has a variety of ways to cite it, depending on the year.
Although there are general guidelines and patterns for citations, there is really a lot of acceptable variation. If you create citations that include the layers I talk about in the citation series, your bases are covered and the citation should prove useful for a long time to come.
Thanks! Great examples
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching, as always. 🙂
I don't understand the pyramid graphic in regards to the citations. Wouldn't the person's name come either first or last in the citation? In the second example, the person's name is near the end but not the final entry. I'm very confused. Also, in theory, could I just do the URL links and skip the repository location/film number? Is it really a really bad idea to "customize" my citations. For example, {Person] [Record Information/Data] [Name of Databse (ex. Florida Marraiges 1900-1910)] [website link]
Part 1 -The pyramid graphic is simply meant to represent the citation layers I try to include in each citation. It can be confusing because even in Evidence Explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills (the "Bible" of genealogy citations), the layers are arranged differently in citations for various record types. If it would make more sense to you to put the layers in the same order each time, go for it!
Part 2 - You could just copy the URL links and skip the repository location/film number. However, as I have found out the hard way over the years, URLs change or disappear and collects are combined or renamed. If you need to go back later to answer another question for the ancestor or a relative, the repository, film number, or original data may be the only way to find the collection again. Use your best judgement for what you want in your citations.
I have another video coming out soon that will talk about creating your own citation template. That may help, too.
In the meantime, you got this! Make citations work for you, and don't worry about doing it "perfectly."
@@BoundlessGenealogy Cool thanks!
@@BoundlessGenealogy You have a great point. URLs do change and sometimes finding a record can take so long that it's worth it to write down the page details.
Better done than perfect ;)