AVOID DOING THIS WHEN RIDING A STUBBORN HORSE!!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- This video explains how to handle a horse that refuses to move or go forward. When dealing with a horse that is stubborn, it's usually due to a lack of training, rider error, fear, pain or a lack of respect. This is how I handle a horse that refuses to go forward because of a lack of respect. Hope this helps and thank you for watching! I upload a new video twice a week. Consider Subscribing, alot more Horse Training and Learning to Ride videos on the way!!
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The one thing I will add to this even though this video outlines the right long-term solutions...if you are in a real jam and don't have any room to circle and disengage the hindquarter etc. and are under real time pressure for some reason instead of using your legs and kicking...just reach back and slap them on the butt, or if you have a hat take it off and use that on the but..this oftentimes will push them forward, but don't get in a fight with them if it does not work..but, for certain don't use that technique as a crutch, go back to basics and get the groundwork in etc. Bottom line, never get in a fight with a horse...if you find that happening realize the horse is NOT well enough prepared to be in the situation you are in and simply does not know how to answer the question properly....you must go back to basics if you feel like you are going to be getting into a fight, losing your temper on a horse is never a solution...you can't project human emotion onto them like they are just being stupid or stubborn you must speak their language not expect them to speak yours.
With some caveats, I will say that this almost entirely right. The only problem I have is that many people will misunderstand, in many different ways, what was said about using a hand, hat, or crop, etc on their bum. I could write a book about all the different ways that will be misunderstood.
It should have been emphasized that we are not intending to use pain. 99% of the time you don't even need to touch them with the crop (A thing that looks like a small whip, about 2 feet long, and is easy to carry with a wrist strap on it. ) or a hat, small tree branch or whatever. Just waving it in that direction will usually work. And I am not talking about using fear either! I'm talking about a hypothetical horse that has never been hit in their life. Most of them, even without being taught the cue, will move forward from a movement around their rear. It fits the classical definition of "pressure" in the training methods using "Pressure And Release."
Anybody who wants to be around horses in any capacity needs to understand the concepts involved in Pressure And Release, so anyone who does not understand it thoroughly needs to do quite a lot of READING on it. NOT WATCHING VIDEOS, BUT READING PRINTED INFORMATION. Mainly from books, but there could also be good info on some websites. Even Wikipedia has lots of great horse info, but I haven't yet checked their coverage of horse training. I think whatever they have would only be very, very basic, but it's a good place to start.
Josie, at the channel Basic Horse Training, has an excellent course, but it's not free. You get what you pay for. There is no good, complete training information available for free on RUclips just bits and pieces all over the place, very randomly. I like Josie's instructions. They are usually pretty complete, but even she assumes her students know some things already, which is wrong. I would go from Wikipedia to reading books on it. Amazon has many, for cheap, in used condition.
There are no videos that explain it properly. Every video I have ever seen on tries to rush through it and leaves many of the viewers thinking "Huh?! I don't really get it!" They make too many assumptions on what people already know. A good teacher assumes some of their students know nothing whatsoever. Only in that way can a person gain a thorough understanding of the subject.
Back to what the comment above said, regarding waving crops, hats, etc. If a wave of the object produces no result, the rider can try just a very light tap. If that too does not work, you must get off and lead them past the area they are balking at. By continuing to tap them with it, even just very lightly, you will be teaching them the wrong things, and screwing them up. So don't. Lead them past that point instead, then remount. Then, when back at the barn, you do everything normally to untack, water, brush them, and clean their feet. They will have had enough for that day. But the next day you must start doing extensive groundwork with them, as the OP and the video both said. To keep riding them with this problem will only worsen it. Exact details of the groundwork will depend on the horse's individual needs. I most thoroughly support all that was said about groundwork. If that is not done, the horse will just get worse and worse over time.
Besides being cruel, hitting horses is NEVER the answer, for all the reasons the video and the OP stated. It only confuses the horse, so it always just compounds any problems, and wrecks the horse for all time! There are few problems that can't be solved by an expert in groundwork. We should all work toward becoming one, because our horses need to constantly be trained. If they are not, then they are being untrained, or actually being trained new bad habits. But we need to not make it a chore for them or for us, othwise it won't get done, or won't have the right results. That alone would cover at least one whole chapter of a book! We all start small, and that's ok! Have fun with it! See if there are any clubs or groups you can join. Your riding will be so much better for it. ❤
He was good at first because he's a good horse and was doing the job he knows he is supposed to do and then he figured out she was a newbie and he could be the boss. As usual, human problem, not horse problem.
Great advice!!
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I definitely needed this! My horse is great and listens really well on the ground- but under saddle I just don't follow through enough and she doesn't respect me. So thank you for sharing this!
Good info! Can’t remember how many times I’ve seen this.
Good video...this is why people should learn the principles of ground work and most especially beginners....it just sounds like this was a trained horse but like almost all of them if they are dealing with someone who is too much a beginner and does not know how to assert themselves/ride well without enough skill in the right amount of pressure and timing in release, just got confused and started to take things in their own hands, as it was clear the beginner was not enough of a leader. This is a great example of why you need lessons as a beginner because even if you buy a beginner, trained horse, if you don't know what you are doing you can ruin a well trained even quiet horse...there are very few horses that are idiot proof and most of those will just be so old they just go on auto pilot from a lot of experience with people and don't have much energy to cause a fuss.
That's why many old horses are the best for beginners and are exactly what they need.
Sadly, many people go for the flashy young horse that ends up disastrously for the horse and the human too usually.
The worst are the parents who buy a young horse for their beginner kids. I've heard it 10k times, "they can grow up and learn together". I've seen too many of those to count at sales that have learned all the bad and end up on truck to Mexico....unless a random horseman saves them.
@@tracyjohnson5023 100 percent beginners should be on 'been there done that' older horses, who will teach the kid to ride and give them confidence...yes, so sad all these nice horses that end of on those trucks taking the blame instead of the ignorant and stubborn humans.
I’ve used the Ray Hunt method of the making the right thing easy and the wrong thing difficult for years training beginner horses and horses spoiled by riders who teach them to do the wrong thing by letting the horse do what it wants. Easy and consistent training is the best.
Sorry. Got called away before finishing my initial post. I just gotta say, "Thank you for another helpful video."
Yet again it isn't really the horse, but it's the person that is the issue. Horse would be fine if was yours. I hope your friend can accomplish this training for a good partnership from your advice. First time on channel. Subscribed.
Good job. This is a very common issue and needs to be discussed. ❤
Thanks, Jami! You have a way of explaining things so clearly and concise and it really helps me.
Thanks for another video Jami!
A very similar thing happened to me this week, only I am thinking the refusal is because of fear. I'm thinking fear because the horse will stop in nearly the same spot, gawk to the left (tree area, like she's waiting for an ambush) and than refuse to move forward. The weird thing is, there are horses all around and they are just as relaxed (so it makes me wonder if it could be lack of respect??). A few days ago, she refused, not knowing what to do and not wanting her to think I was giving in, I spurred her a few steps forward, turned her around and stopped her for a second.
Wonderful!
Important helpful story and solution, nice one❤