Good afternoon Julian - any chance you can make a video or livestream of Lenin's revolutionary model that Zizek highly praises? I think he categorizes it as pragmatic opportunism combined with the communist drive to 'try again, fail again, fail better'.
26:25 *truth in our avatars* “Essentially the Lacanian position is that you should embrace your mask, you should become it. That there is more truth to your mask than there is to what is supposedly underneath the mask. Moreover that the idea of there being something underneath the mask is itself the effect, the by-quality of the mask itself.” Avatar Sanskrit etymology- “avatāra, _descent of a deity from a heaven._ Embodiment of an idea or concept, instantiation/incarnation.”
I don't understand why this should be the case. Seems like an overly existentialist formulation. Because we first take the anti-existentialist move against Authenticity, but then say "but actually the mask is authenticity!". Then why is the king who thinks is a king a madman, is it not because of over identification with a persona? And what is self-care, self-love, self-expression, etc. They're not just performances for the other, unless one has an entirely dramatic personality
@tristanreynolds5748 I think the whole point of it is a kind of awareness that you would only get through realizing that there is no self to begin with, and THEN just identifying with whatever persona you have created for the supposed Big Other. But a person who truly believes that their mask or self are REAL, like they have substance, those people would be called mad. Honestly the more I listen about Lacan the more he seems like a Buddhist with extra steps. That wants to dissolve the idea of the stable self existing, and then you kind of just going with the flow of life without being too attached to any identity whatsoever. Don't ask me how I linked Lacan with Eastern spirituality but I cannot unsee it now and someone will have to argue hard with me to disprove that he is trying to bring people to a sort of radical self realization/enlightenment with his psychoanalytic approach lol
@@vuksha_yo Later lacan engaged with eastern Philosophy, in his strange way, and I think he was probably inspired by it in the first place too. But yeah this very intuitive for our minds, but two points -- imo this not anatman, "wants to dissolve a the idea of a stable sense of self existing". I think, in general, buddhism's use of anatman does not come close to denial of the idea of self, but rather that any focus on its existence or nonexistence is fruitless. It's not its presence or absence which matters, but the ways it is used to generate attachment. If you expirence a "lack of self" to be freeing, you experience lack (and thus clinging). And the "identify with your persona, but have distance" kinda just lands you back in with "normal society". So for all the chic radicalism we might end up with something pretty banal. "Identify with/enjoy thy symptom, but do it in a way which is socially acceptable." I haven't read guartarri and deleuze, but I'm betting that this is part of their critique. After some thinking I've settled on Stirner's notion of the "creative nothing" as to what we are getting at with these self-- phrases. One could read Stirner in an immaculately ourwardly conformist way too, but the difference is if you at all points try to destroy inwardness like lacan, you're really just left with the conformist part.
@tristanreynolds5748 I've been trying to ponder the notion of " authentic conformity ", which I think is what you're trying to point to as well when you say to accept your symptom in a socially acceptable way. It's that balance between embracing the values and ways of being that you resonate with even though they might be radical, and finding ways to integrate yourself into an already formed structure as to provide something new, but still take up your responsibility for self and others.
@@vuksha_yo I was attempting to characterize the position of lacan/lacanianism, my own position is more indvidualist. I think in lacanianism the only thing unique is the symptom and the fundamental fantasy. The symbolic order being the only rational thing that we can only hope to integrate into. So we can hold onto our fucked upness (the only individual thing about us) and also perform in the symbolic order. As someone with an interest and aspiration towards psychotherapy more broadly, probably most of the actual conclusions of lacan are lessons in what not to do. Lacan is still my "sublime hysteric" though.
I like you, I respect your appreciation for and thinking about zizek thoughts a lot. Which is really saying something considering just how little credence I give to zizek and what he has to say. Psychoanalysis? ideology? Dialectics? Yeesh, he can keep that nonsense, I don't want it. As a genius philosopher and scientist I pride myself on never having read hegel, everyone knows that already(BOOOOORING) reading hegel just causes more confusion when you move on to reading the confused thoughts hegel gave to other people who read him. That's what I say, but I wouldn't know what I am talking about.
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Good afternoon Julian - any chance you can make a video or livestream of Lenin's revolutionary model that Zizek highly praises? I think he categorizes it as pragmatic opportunism combined with the communist drive to 'try again, fail again, fail better'.
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26:25 *truth in our avatars*
“Essentially the Lacanian position is that you should embrace your mask, you should become it. That there is more truth to your mask than there is to what is supposedly underneath the mask. Moreover that the idea of there being something underneath the mask is itself the effect, the by-quality of the mask itself.”
Avatar Sanskrit etymology- “avatāra, _descent of a deity from a heaven._ Embodiment of an idea or concept, instantiation/incarnation.”
I don't understand why this should be the case. Seems like an overly existentialist formulation. Because we first take the anti-existentialist move against Authenticity, but then say "but actually the mask is authenticity!". Then why is the king who thinks is a king a madman, is it not because of over identification with a persona? And what is self-care, self-love, self-expression, etc. They're not just performances for the other, unless one has an entirely dramatic personality
@tristanreynolds5748 I think the whole point of it is a kind of awareness that you would only get through realizing that there is no self to begin with, and THEN just identifying with whatever persona you have created for the supposed Big Other. But a person who truly believes that their mask or self are REAL, like they have substance, those people would be called mad. Honestly the more I listen about Lacan the more he seems like a Buddhist with extra steps. That wants to dissolve the idea of the stable self existing, and then you kind of just going with the flow of life without being too attached to any identity whatsoever.
Don't ask me how I linked Lacan with Eastern spirituality but I cannot unsee it now and someone will have to argue hard with me to disprove that he is trying to bring people to a sort of radical self realization/enlightenment with his psychoanalytic approach lol
@@vuksha_yo Later lacan engaged with eastern Philosophy, in his strange way, and I think he was probably inspired by it in the first place too. But yeah this very intuitive for our minds, but two points -- imo this not anatman, "wants to dissolve a the idea of a stable sense of self existing". I think, in general, buddhism's use of anatman does not come close to denial of the idea of self, but rather that any focus on its existence or nonexistence is fruitless. It's not its presence or absence which matters, but the ways it is used to generate attachment. If you expirence a "lack of self" to be freeing, you experience lack (and thus clinging).
And the "identify with your persona, but have distance" kinda just lands you back in with "normal society". So for all the chic radicalism we might end up with something pretty banal. "Identify with/enjoy thy symptom, but do it in a way which is socially acceptable." I haven't read guartarri and deleuze, but I'm betting that this is part of their critique.
After some thinking I've settled on Stirner's notion of the "creative nothing" as to what we are getting at with these self-- phrases. One could read Stirner in an immaculately ourwardly conformist way too, but the difference is if you at all points try to destroy inwardness like lacan, you're really just left with the conformist part.
@tristanreynolds5748 I've been trying to ponder the notion of " authentic conformity ", which I think is what you're trying to point to as well when you say to accept your symptom in a socially acceptable way. It's that balance between embracing the values and ways of being that you resonate with even though they might be radical, and finding ways to integrate yourself into an already formed structure as to provide something new, but still take up your responsibility for self and others.
@@vuksha_yo I was attempting to characterize the position of lacan/lacanianism, my own position is more indvidualist. I think in lacanianism the only thing unique is the symptom and the fundamental fantasy. The symbolic order being the only rational thing that we can only hope to integrate into. So we can hold onto our fucked upness (the only individual thing about us) and also perform in the symbolic order. As someone with an interest and aspiration towards psychotherapy more broadly, probably most of the actual conclusions of lacan are lessons in what not to do. Lacan is still my "sublime hysteric" though.
I like you, I respect your appreciation for and thinking about zizek thoughts a lot. Which is really saying something considering just how little credence I give to zizek and what he has to say. Psychoanalysis? ideology? Dialectics? Yeesh, he can keep that nonsense, I don't want it. As a genius philosopher and scientist I pride myself on never having read hegel, everyone knows that already(BOOOOORING) reading hegel just causes more confusion when you move on to reading the confused thoughts hegel gave to other people who read him. That's what I say, but I wouldn't know what I am talking about.
The ( BKF ) butterfly chair - originally designed in Buenos Aires 1938
Because the Capitalist company ( Knoll ) lost a copyright infringement case, ( '51 )
anyone can now manufacture a facsimile.
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