Thank you for showing the video in real time, not time lapsed. It's easy enough for us to jump the video or watch in fast forward, but being able to see how long it actually takes is very useful.
What a Nice Scanner Or Kana A Led Printer For The PCB (Printed Circuit Board) is used to mechanically support and electrically connect electronic components using conductive pathways, tracks or signal traces etched from copper sheets laminated onto a non-conductive board. Components are connected through the conductive material below a non conductive board, the common conductive material used in packaged PCBs are usually copper, since copper is cheap and common. We Love It. Thank you Very Much.
Uma das coisas que eu mais admiro na tecnologia moderna são essas máquinas e essas placas com todos esses circuitos, desde criança sempre ficava admirado olhando e pensando nas pessoas que haviam criado essas coisas, é realmente de ficar fascinado com a inteligência humana e a esse ponto em que chegou. Vida longa aos engenheiros que estudaram e todos os outros do passado que se dedicaram até que hoje tenhamos tudo isso. Deus abençoe a todos.
They aren't made this way. Half an hour would be way too much time to produce just one PCB. Usually this "pattern" is applied by using some kind of stencil.
They aren't. This is for prototyping inhouse. Circuit boards are made using full sheet of copper laid onto an insulating sheet (such as fiberglass). A photoresist plastic layer is applied on top of the copper, and lasers are used to determine what should and shouldn't be masked. The photoresist is developed, leaving exposed copper on the places you don't actually want the copper. Then the exposed copper is dissolved (called 'etched') using a chemical bath. Holes are drilled, plated, etc. If the board is multiple layers this is done for each layer and compressed together.
A good solution to keep those little sticky trails from dragging off the tip would be to have the printing head do a few tiny circles around the point it picks up from. Glass blowers do exactly that for the same reason, and the same principle works for most any viscous fluid. Watching this was mesmerizing, haha
Didnt realize there was consumer grade stuff like this. I work for a multi billion dollar technology company in the electronics assembly department. I service printing, surfacemounting, through hole mounting, reflow, wave and selective solder equipment as well as a lot of the peripherals that support it. Pretty cool to see a desktop mini version.
Isso é o máximo!! Uma previsão escomunal, sou recém formado técnico em automação e gosto muito disso. Parabéns aos criadores dessa máquina e aos programadores.
Brilliant machine, very similar to a rotary engraving machine, what I need to know is what is deposited on a board, is it molten substance and is it copper or tin and how does it stick to board, does it stick to board because it is molten.
Is that the silver ink that is about 2 ohms per inch of trace? Have you actually built a circuit using this process and if so, have you built an RF circuit using the process? Maybe you could put a link here to a video of a circuit that you built using this process and showing it working with some verbal description of the project.
This is cool. I came here because I had a dream about circuit printers, and was a little sad someone had already made a home production model. Maybe I'm not out of luck for coming up with my own yet, though, as the ink looks to have really slopped up the fine details.
This machine lets me remembered the age of plotter, it has 8 pens and draws only one line at a time, it took hours to draw a complicated drawing. It then was replaced by a big printer. will it happen in this area?
Yeah, I remember those old pen plotters. I don't think there will be a PCB printer much bigger than the V-One though. It's main purpose is to print fast prototype boards, so printing big doesn't apply.
Gostei,mas toda essa demora pra fazer uma plaqueta?! Acho que vale mais apena para fazer trabalhos caseiros se bem que no processo químico sai bem mais barato.
Yours is one of the only videos of it working that's produced independently. Thanks for this. Would the end result be improved if the flow of the silver ink were reduced? Is that an option? The Voltera produced videos showcase perfect flow rate with no extra buildup whereas there seems to be some "overextrusion" (as it would be called on an FDM printer) in your video. Cheers.
The camera magnification makes the result look more bumpy than it really is. But yes, you can control to flow rate, even during printing. ruclips.net/video/CEUwLHgJf0Q/видео.html
"Also, I didn't put music in the video so you can enjoy the sound of the stepper motors of the V-One." Oh thanks xD Could you please give us a bit more info about what the green material underneath is, what filament you were using and if there is a place like thingiverse for PCBs? :) Thank you very much in advance!
Suricat B. It's not a regular 3D printer. I think the pcb material is something proprietary from that company. It's also not using filament (conductive filament exists, but it's crap, I tried it) it's using a special paste, which flows and cures at room temperature. And lastly, there is no thingiverse for pcb's, i simply design them in Autodesk eagle and then use some freeware or fusion 360 to cam it. Hope I answered your questions.
The "green material" is FR4, the same stuff that ordinary PCB's are made of. The "filament" is conductive silver ink, not plastic. www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2017/09/20/fr4-pcb-material/
Noob question. How is a working pcb? What a router should do is remove the space between traces and leave traces intact. What I see here is trace being routed throud the green film. If etched is this will rest in a negative circuit. I must be missing something
The drawback is that the ink don't hold up for the temperature of normal solder, you need to use a low temperature solder. As for the resistance I see no problems, on the other hand I only design digital circuits. Voltera has posted this video - ruclips.net/video/L06gAmW3fOs/видео.html
As you can see from this video, there are no shorts. Even though this board was not designed to be printed by this machine. ruclips.net/video/CEUwLHgJf0Q/видео.html
This is interesting but when you overlap the print doesn't it all become the same circuit and therefore why not just make one line instead of lattice print.
Good to see this video, but, I doubt about its accuracy-that is. Accuracy of the drilling hole details another point. But thanks for uploading a nice tech video.
One question. That silverish conductive material, is it proof for audiophile use? Does a power amplifier that has this kind of PCB sound as good as one that is made from a PCB with copper tracks? You must really do a lot of prototyping to break even economically. Not for hobbyists. What if you must use a dsPIC33ep256mu806 that has 0.5 mm between it's legs? On the other hand, several women has 0.5 mm between their legs too. This machine is also very meditative, perhaps that's why you bought it. Now you can just sit in front of the little device, listening to those cute sounds that comes from the tiny servo motors, and feel aligned with cosmos. What do you charge if I will need a quick prototype?
What kind of audiophile are you talking about? The kind that accepts physics, or the kind that buys specialty cables that work better in i specific direction? The silver ink works fine for the first kind. I wouldn't use it for high power amplifiers though, as the ink has more resistance than copper. Minimum pin pitch is 0.65 mm.
Yes, but you must really use it a lot to break even. It's a nice machine, but is it worth the money? I was serious, I'm living in Sweden. Can you perhaps make a prototype for me if I would need some quick? Chinese are cheap but it takes a week and the shipping costs more than the PCB's themselves. And about audiophiles. I'm quite balanced, but I'm also superstitous. I don't think I would have wanted to make audio equipment with that kind of PCB, but that is totally irrational. On the other hand, many audiophiles think that silver is a nice material. But how high is the silver concentration? The manufacturer stated "12mohm/sq" - I didn't get that.
Sorry, I don't print for others. The machine is not cheap, but I backed them on Kickstarter and got mine for much less. Also, the consumables are quite pricey. As for the ink, go to voltera.io and ask them in the chat. They have real good customer support.
I'm studing electronic engineering in the best university in sudan but i see the europian people do strangest things like this printer device as there was came from mars 😂😂😂
Jony where are you from? Wow nice in which company you work. I have done diploma in electronic form government polytechnic Lucknow. Any vacancy are there..
I made the mistake of buying one. Hand soldering is a pain in the ass, Cured ink breaks off very easily during hole-through assembly or even by picking it up. Resolution is .... just "meh!" Ink only lasts 6 months, , just like the solder paste, clutters the tip very easily and "flows" during curing, creating shorts..... the list goes on. The promise is bigger than the result. We've also tried to create PCB's by burning away copper with a laser engraver, but the best results we get from the Wegstr CNC milling machine. Its slow ( almost as slow as the Voltera ) but no curing is involved, normal soldering can happen and the resolution is fantastic. Here in the Netherlands the Voltera costs ~ EUR 5.000,=, Substrates aren't cheap and the ink and solderpaste are around 50 to 100 EURO each. This makes the process of creating a "maybe it works" prototype quite expensive. For EUR 3.000 we've bought the CNC mill and that is about it. Normal PCB's can be used, no special tools needed, holes are getting drilled, normal solderpaste can be used etc... . An expensive lesson learned..
The Voltera is used for fast prototyping, as ordering PCB's takes 2 weeks. It's first when you have tested the prototype PCB it's time to order a real PCB.
Thank you for showing the video in real time, not time lapsed. It's easy enough for us to jump the video or watch in fast forward, but being able to see how long it actually takes is very useful.
Especially with background music. Which isn't required on it. IMO
What a Nice Scanner Or Kana A Led Printer For The PCB (Printed Circuit Board) is used to mechanically support and electrically connect electronic components using conductive pathways, tracks or signal traces etched from copper sheets laminated onto a non-conductive board. Components are connected through the conductive material below a non conductive board, the common conductive material used in packaged PCBs are usually copper, since copper is cheap and common. We Love It. Thank you Very Much.
Uma das coisas que eu mais admiro na tecnologia moderna são essas máquinas e essas placas com todos esses circuitos, desde criança sempre ficava admirado olhando e pensando nas pessoas que haviam criado essas coisas, é realmente de ficar fascinado com a inteligência humana e a esse ponto em que chegou. Vida longa aos engenheiros que estudaram e todos os outros do passado que se dedicaram até que hoje tenhamos tudo isso. Deus abençoe a todos.
machine sound is better then any background music
I love people who don't put useless music in their videos.
Thanks. (-:
Currect
Same. Thanks for kool sound.
Me too ...
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Wow, I never knew that these circuit boards are made this way. Excellent invention of its time.
They aren't made this way. Half an hour would be way too much time to produce just one PCB. Usually this "pattern" is applied by using some kind of stencil.
They aren't. This is for prototyping inhouse. Circuit boards are made using full sheet of copper laid onto an insulating sheet (such as fiberglass). A photoresist plastic layer is applied on top of the copper, and lasers are used to determine what should and shouldn't be masked. The photoresist is developed, leaving exposed copper on the places you don't actually want the copper.
Then the exposed copper is dissolved (called 'etched') using a chemical bath. Holes are drilled, plated, etc. If the board is multiple layers this is done for each layer and compressed together.
A good solution to keep those little sticky trails from dragging off the tip would be to have the printing head do a few tiny circles around the point it picks up from. Glass blowers do exactly that for the same reason, and the same principle works for most any viscous fluid.
Watching this was mesmerizing, haha
Why bother? Just use a Steadler marker, they don't have that problem. This looks like some kind of 'paint' pen.
Didnt realize there was consumer grade stuff like this. I work for a multi billion dollar technology company in the electronics assembly department. I service printing, surfacemounting, through hole mounting, reflow, wave and selective solder equipment as well as a lot of the peripherals that support it. Pretty cool to see a desktop mini version.
is that machine is operated manually or it is automated ?
Isso é o máximo!!
Uma previsão escomunal, sou recém formado técnico em automação e gosto muito disso.
Parabéns aos criadores dessa máquina e aos programadores.
Amazing
Pelo visto a tinta já deve ser condutora pois a placa virgem não tem cobre. Mas é lento para produção em larga escala.
The engineer and robot perfect picture and sound like music remix is amazing appreciated for this video and keep going up❤️
Oh, thank you for not putting music in the video, it is so good to hear the machine.
Newfution
Great art. How fine work done so perfectly.
MI
Thanks for the video. We never get to see such things while studying.
Love the sound of the steppers working
Yes
The guards of all things will patent the sound of the engine and deprive us of this sweet music.
Kn subio esto. Porfa ke suban otro este es el mejor videos ke esperaba lo vi todo completito y me gusto mucho. Suban otro como este .
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most satisfying video. nice kirk sound of stepper motor.
Wow Johnny this thing is amazing!
Spent 10 minute thinking about what im going to do with my life got distracted for 20+ minute watching this vod. Damn you!
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Brilliant machine, very similar to a rotary engraving machine, what I need to know is what is deposited on a board, is it molten substance and is it copper or tin and how does it stick to board, does it stick to board because it is molten.
It's silver ink.
Is that the silver ink that is about 2 ohms per inch of trace? Have you actually built a circuit using this process and if so, have you built an RF circuit using the process? Maybe you could put a link here to a video of a circuit that you built using this process and showing it working with some verbal description of the project.
It's so relaxing to see this 😊
Que tecnologia 😻😻😻lindo demais 😍 uma obra prima
Essa máquina faz numa delicadeza que imprecina.
Muito top😍
This is cool. I came here because I had a dream about circuit printers, and was a little sad someone had already made a home production model. Maybe I'm not out of luck for coming up with my own yet, though, as the ink looks to have really slopped up the fine details.
You could come up with one that drills the holes as well. It's kinda hard to drill holes when they are close.
+Jonny Bergdahl m
I know it has been a year but there is a module to do the drills to !
Hey bro, want to know you.
Olha a precisão dessa máquina! Por isso que esses produtos são bem valorizados!
love the sound, love the video. watching at 2x speed
2x speed
This machine lets me remembered the age of plotter, it has 8 pens and draws only one line at a time, it took hours to draw a complicated drawing. It then was replaced by a big printer. will it happen in this area?
Yeah, I remember those old pen plotters. I don't think there will be a PCB printer much bigger than the V-One though. It's main purpose is to print fast prototype boards, so printing big doesn't apply.
మానవుని యొక్క అద్భుత సృష్టి... 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
really it`s great to have this type of productive machines, it`s human revolution.
Muito top,esta inteligência de uma invenção de tecnologia de capacitância sem erros né...
Its very highfunny.. Very technically and well designed.. I 😍 it
Gostei,mas toda essa demora pra fazer uma plaqueta?! Acho que vale mais apena para fazer trabalhos caseiros se bem que no processo químico sai bem mais barato.
I'm so interested in these kind of technology
This would also be great for flexible PCBs as well.
They do sell a special flexible ink for that.
Jonny Bergdahl
It is amazing what is available now for the home hobbyist.
Cada linha dessa é um circuito,junto com os componentes eletrônicos. Legal tecnologia.
Excellent video. Good Job.
However they’re deciding which order to draw the traces in it could use some optimisation. The head goes all over the place.
I believe, maybe for temp purposes
@@johnmoney910 It's not heated when it's being layed down.
that sound... EARGASM!!
Great art. Highley appreciable.
Saludos amigo de acá de Santiago Chile
Yours is one of the only videos of it working that's produced independently. Thanks for this.
Would the end result be improved if the flow of the silver ink were reduced? Is that an option? The Voltera produced videos showcase perfect flow rate with no extra buildup whereas there seems to be some "overextrusion" (as it would be called on an FDM printer) in your video. Cheers.
The camera magnification makes the result look more bumpy than it really is. But yes, you can control to flow rate, even during printing.
ruclips.net/video/CEUwLHgJf0Q/видео.html
👊 powerful awesome stuff . Love it , much appreciated ☺
Circuit board looks very neat and perfect. But to make one board it takes so much time, that is the only concern.
A tecnologia e estudo acima de tudo.
Fantastic machine. Very nice.
"Also, I didn't put music in the video so you can enjoy the sound of the stepper motors of the V-One."
Oh thanks xD
Could you please give us a bit more info about what the green material underneath is, what filament you were using and if there is a place like thingiverse for PCBs? :) Thank you very much in advance!
Suricat B. It's not a regular 3D printer. I think the pcb material is something proprietary from that company. It's also not using filament (conductive filament exists, but it's crap, I tried it) it's using a special paste, which flows and cures at room temperature. And lastly, there is no thingiverse for pcb's, i simply design them in Autodesk eagle and then use some freeware or fusion 360 to cam it.
Hope I answered your questions.
thats right its a special past homogenized with hot surface then cures .
The "green material" is FR4, the same stuff that ordinary PCB's are made of. The "filament" is conductive silver ink, not plastic.
www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2017/09/20/fr4-pcb-material/
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Con que cámara fue grabado el vídeo que se ve muy bien
Noob question. How is a working pcb? What a router should do is remove the space between traces and leave traces intact. What I see here is trace being routed throud the green film. If etched is this will rest in a negative circuit. I must be missing something
It is not routing, it is printing with silver ink on a blank PCB.
I love machines sound..nice printing..
When it made the robotic sound... I felt that.
Gusto ko ito panoorin ng paulit ulit
Will the solder paste work on the glass substrate ? Any idea?
The ink is printable on glass, yes.
Como eu vim parar aqui?? E ainda assisti tudo
Kkkkkkk pois é. Digo a mesma coisa.
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Quarentena, é a resposta
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@@mahamadouabdouabdou1121 Yane? Não entendi.
Dear Jonny, green surface is photoresist, isn't it?
No, it's just a PCB substrate without the copper layer. The material is called FR4.
conductive silver ink? Does it have much resistance? any drawbacks?
The drawback is that the ink don't hold up for the temperature of normal solder, you need to use a low temperature solder.
As for the resistance I see no problems, on the other hand I only design digital circuits.
Voltera has posted this video - ruclips.net/video/L06gAmW3fOs/видео.html
PCP printing machine how mani price were,are biring
Woooooooooow i love this precise machine
Most satisfying video
Most important thing in every device and machinery
thanks for uploading this video I didn't know how they print this
Wow very awesome matchine
Fantastic video fantastic machine... thanks..
That machine is really incredible. How do i get my pcbs printed this way?
I love the sound
nice, but not practical ... and there is a short ... the gound-area with the thick track entering it :D
Thomas Pmaxuw but to good
Fixing is a short is possible before the cure ... but also designing for machine capabilities is important.This is an ambitious layout IMO.
Hdvjdu
As you can see from this video, there are no shorts. Even though this board was not designed to be printed by this machine.
ruclips.net/video/CEUwLHgJf0Q/видео.html
Thomas Pmaxuw also I don't think that ic will flow properly unless that board gets a good leveling.
what material is using in the printing? Gold or brass ?
It is a silver based ink.
This is interesting but when you overlap the print doesn't it all become the same circuit and therefore why not just make one line instead of lattice print.
The print head can only make one width so to get a wider trace it needs to overlap.
... absolutely exact - the dream of constructeurs Like me - comes true.
Nice work guys
I think CNC machines are using for this purpose.
Good to see this video, but, I doubt about its accuracy-that is. Accuracy of the drilling hole details another point. But thanks for uploading a nice tech video.
Our technical specs are here, www.voltera.io/specs/
wonderful big shouts to you @Uganda
Why does the injection nozzle backtrack a few mm at the end of each trace?
To avoid a blob of ink at the end point.
After watch greatscott's video, somehow this video appear in my recommendation video.
Amazing machine.....
OK
One question. That silverish conductive material, is it proof for audiophile use? Does a power amplifier that has this kind of PCB sound as good as one that is made from a PCB with copper tracks?
You must really do a lot of prototyping to break even economically. Not for hobbyists.
What if you must use a dsPIC33ep256mu806 that has 0.5 mm between it's legs? On the other hand, several women has 0.5 mm between their legs too.
This machine is also very meditative, perhaps that's why you bought it. Now you can just sit in front of the little device, listening to those cute sounds that comes from the tiny servo motors, and feel aligned with cosmos.
What do you charge if I will need a quick prototype?
What kind of audiophile are you talking about? The kind that accepts physics, or the kind that buys specialty cables that work better in i specific direction?
The silver ink works fine for the first kind. I wouldn't use it for high power amplifiers though, as the ink has more resistance than copper.
Minimum pin pitch is 0.65 mm.
Yes, but you must really use it a lot to break even. It's a nice machine, but is it worth the money?
I was serious, I'm living in Sweden. Can you perhaps make a prototype for me if I would need some quick? Chinese are cheap but it takes a week and the shipping costs more than the PCB's themselves.
And about audiophiles. I'm quite balanced, but I'm also superstitous. I don't think I would have wanted to make audio equipment with that kind of PCB, but that is totally irrational. On the other hand, many audiophiles think that silver is a nice material.
But how high is the silver concentration? The manufacturer stated "12mohm/sq" - I didn't get that.
Sorry, I don't print for others.
The machine is not cheap, but I backed them on Kickstarter and got mine for much less. Also, the consumables are quite pricey.
As for the ink, go to voltera.io and ask them in the chat. They have real good customer support.
Motor sound really gooood
Informative Video. Thanks for upload
I'm studing electronic engineering in the best university in sudan but i see the europian people do strangest things like this printer device as there was came from mars 😂😂😂
Hi
What he make🌹
Very good idea tecnology
What is the type of engneering is that process?
Our machine uses direct write technology.
Kya aap training bhi delate hai mujhe training karni hai
itu membuat pcb handphone ya??? canggih ya alatnya
What's the resistance across the liquid goo?
Our resistance can be found on our website, www.voltera.io/specs/
Now I can build my own smartphone!
Jony where are you from? Wow nice in which company you work. I have done diploma in electronic form government polytechnic Lucknow. Any vacancy are there..
I have my own business in Sweden.
Why would I choose this over a regular CNC engraver? Are there any advantages?
It can dispense the solder paste as well.
@@JonnyBergdahl now it makes sense. Thanks!
It also reflows with the heat bed.
I made the mistake of buying one. Hand soldering is a pain in the ass, Cured ink breaks off very easily during hole-through assembly or even by picking it up. Resolution is .... just "meh!" Ink only lasts 6 months, , just like the solder paste, clutters the tip very easily and "flows" during curing, creating shorts..... the list goes on. The promise is bigger than the result. We've also tried to create PCB's by burning away copper with a laser engraver, but the best results we get from the Wegstr CNC milling machine. Its slow ( almost as slow as the Voltera ) but no curing is involved, normal soldering can happen and the resolution is fantastic.
Here in the Netherlands the Voltera costs ~ EUR 5.000,=, Substrates aren't cheap and the ink and solderpaste are around 50 to 100 EURO each. This makes the process of creating a "maybe it works" prototype quite expensive. For EUR 3.000 we've bought the CNC mill and that is about it. Normal PCB's can be used, no special tools needed, holes are getting drilled, normal solderpaste can be used etc... .
An expensive lesson learned..
Cool, very soothing....cheers.
Nice job👏👏👏👏 how much please
in which country ...? and what is the name of the company ...? vedio which is very interesting and can add to our insight👍👍👍👍👍
www.voltera.io/
wow, amwezing bosss
Awesome but jeez oshpark results are so darn high quality and cheap. You still gotta drill and test the pcb here
love you
The Voltera is used for fast prototyping, as ordering PCB's takes 2 weeks. It's first when you have tested the prototype PCB it's time to order a real PCB.
At first I thought it was engraving, but in retrospect it's laying down conductive plastic? Where did you find that? Do you have a link?
www.voltera.io/
Background music is nice
Useful video thank you ...
Hi
what is the program you used to make the design and how did you transfer it to g-code ?
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I used Autodesk Eagle, exported Gerber files, and imported those in the Voltera software.
By this v can only do Single sides but what about PTH🤔
We released a drill attachment for double sided circuits. Check out www.voltera.io
@@voltera_io what is accuracy of the machine. Does this machine work at 100% accuracy as per program or make error like human?
wow nice! this printing machine have a camera as eye? -) because amazing exactly line by line
It does not.
that`s great job can you accept the order of printing more pcb for me?
Not really. You can order real PCB's from places like SEEED Studio for MUCH less than I would have to charge.
@@JonnyBergdahl how much price of this brenting ❓