Should we start up a discord? What ya'll want the name to be? First thing I thought was Dak Pack . We have a discord! discord.gg/eu6pgWHfEh Defense Cap reddit post so we can play around with the math: new.reddit.com/r/TheFirstDescendant/comments/1dve0j8/defense_cap/ Also should mod weak point sight slot instead of the ammo one. I just didn't have it maxed at the time
A Discord would be great to discuss Gley build (I can also share my findings with Afterglow Sword on it as well), also I knew sub 20 is very possible with Vestigial Organ. Nice build.
Bro , as a low spender and Gley enjoyer, you are by far my fav buildcrafter. You offer builds for f2p as well as options with more investment instead of just catering to the heavy spenders like some do and I appreciate that more than you know. Thank you.
If it going to be the “best” or actually min maxed it’s going to have to be expensive time or money based. Learning how to do things your own and read/ theory craft goes a long way.
@@unskillfullymasterful basically you can if you spend 500 bucks on all of the ultimate packs - then you have 5 quick slot thingies...but idk people just keep saying "i am f2p" or "as a f2p" this game endgame builds are ALL f2p nothing requires you to buy anything - i have a 6 slotted farm bunny - 7 slotted buff slave/unkillable tank yujin and do every content in the game easily
I knew this game had to do something to truly differentiate itself from other looter shooters. And I love that massive difference is not nerfing things as too many of these looter shooters feel the need to have things nerfed after players spend their own time investing into their builds only to have them stripped away. Hope this game has a long and bright future!
The problem comes into the fact that some builds are straight up broken, it seems more like they didn't do enough testing, which makes the game come off as a sloppy broken mess rather than an actually intended choice. The biggest sign of this is that while some characters are ridiculously good, with builds that are idiotic, other characters are practically useless, and definitely useless in comparison. Like this build, Enzo, the ammo guy, can do a sad attempt at this, but he's less tanky, has to reload, has to wait for CD, and is limited by MP. There is ZERO reason to use him rn as the whole "infinite ammo" meta is just easier and better. Why would you use Esiemo, or Blair, or Valby? Anything they can do others can do better. Yujin? More like "Y"useless. The only reasons they're not nerfing things that are plainly too strong, is: 1. They really don't care about the game, only thing they care is $$$ 🤑💰 2. They're trying to keep the "honeymoon" period going for as long as they can, so are tiptoeing around making the community angry and not making any decisions that'll lose them money, even if it improves the game.
Feel like this is a really good response and I'm sure there are a lot of other really strong builds yet to be discovered from how they worded this. Also they seem to have expected this so they know how their own game works which is a very good sign.
i still don't know why all ppl crying about infinite ammos whike Lepic can melt boss way way faster than Gley. and all descendant can easily solo hard boss if they invest enough.
I love that you show us something everyone can use without spending energy activator and 8 crystilasation catalysts or whatever they are called! awsome stuff!
Dude ty for making these videos. You are vital to keeping my brain from melting down trying to min/max this game. Ty ty ty! I would love a discord by the way
I may be wrong because I don't know it's just what I heard another creator say. The electric priority doesn't add anything if you don't already have some base electric from another module or from the weapon. The same goes for other elements. If that's wrong please let me know
Before you guys build this please keep in mind for more agile bosses this build isn't nearly as effective as predator instinct or even infinite ammo eternal willpower. Cool build, cool concept, you tested it in fully optimal conditions and i've yet to see other boss kills to show it's viability across all hard mode bossing content.
@Nenthus there's a montage killing every hard mod boss solo in the video before this and have a frost walker kill in here as well. Just takes a little bit of aiming where they will be. Not too hard to adjust to. Even have max weakpoint stacks pretty often
FYI for lazy people, you can farm transcendant mod ( even the hard mode ones) just by giving either 4 gold modules to combine which is not guaranteed to give a red mode or if you want to have a 100% chance to have a transcendant , give 4 transcendant modules that are useless to you ( or you know you wont be playing for a long time) i got gley 's explosive life ( ultimate gley exclusive mode) by doing that and i didnt even unlock pyromaniac
Organ is still great and is going to be our main mobbing weapon for sure. Can feel comfortable putting some into it but I would wait a bit if you want more bossing potential because we have some weapons that need a bit of investment for those to flourish there. The vestigial is best bang for the buck and will get us through all content though
Simply brilliant. 🎉 And I must comment... You're the first one I've seen approaching the construction of a build from the beginning, so that we can reach the end game... Thank you very much! I was confused as to what to do with my Gley; Thanks to this incredible work, I already have a guide hahaha. I thank!
I appreciate you! I wanted to make sure I include everybody, this game has so much in it and plus with time stamps I figure everyone can get to where they need by jumping around. Just having a "this is endgame" clip doesn't help a whole lot lmao
Love the content man! It means alot and really helps! The only question I have is with the reactor, I'm not sure if it was covered in the video but If I had an Ult reactor with skill cd and skill duration on it, would that still work or do ult reactors only work with the assigned Ult weapon? Thank you for your help!
You should try the two skill crit chance crit dmg blue and purple mods with a maxed out python. You can kill any boss before duration finishes because the skill crit chance adds to weapon crit chance so your total crit chance should be around 60%. You will be able to crit for almost 1mil with 1000 fire rate if you keep hitting weak spot.
@@dakquan Not in any discord , Will you release a Build Guide soon ? Just farmed 2 Energy activators and 20 Catalysts and wanted to start with Ultimate Gley tomorrow. Would it be clever to wait ? ( Talking about Boss-Killer solely. I have a fully moduled Ultimate Bunny for all other Content, which melts bosses aswell , and my goal is to surpass that )
A 15% chance on a roll for 20% firerate for 5 seconds is not worth 10 slots. It would probably equate to a less than 5% increase to firerate over an entire fight. Just slap Autoimmunity on there and you basically have the best of both worlds in one build.
@Unknown-77789 Afterglow Sword and Python are looking like guns that will out pace the 3 mentioned with enough investment. I'd have to check the math but a 10 mod Tamer should be able to out pace an Organ but you need so much more investment on something that is also much worse at mobbing on top of there being better options in general
Hey king, im loving the content and as far as im concerned, you started this Gley build. Just a couple of questions; 1.) Why electric on the launcher? do i swap it out if i fight something that resists electric? 2.) Why CD instead of Duration on the DPS Gley build? Thanks in advance!
It uses CD instead of duration because the objective is to make the skill last longer than the cooldown time, this way you can activate the skill whenever the duration ends.
thanks for checking out the vids! 1) Can pick what element you would like Electric does well against several endgame bosses. Ideally you go with one that has a dot. 2) Want a combination of both but Cooldown is a better value to reduce due to it starting at 40
Launcher is stronger faster. If you have more investment in Eternal due to the nature of having more things to invest in it should be closer but for a higher cost. I'll have to play around with numbers a bit and the math to give a definite answer
@@dakquan the organ does seem very strong. do you recommend i run organ or python? saw in your latest vid that you are testing python curently and i heard the polarities on gley are diff for both builds.
@angelskyd Agony is decent but we have higher defense options. Don't need both of those guns it was to showcase those real quick A sniper or scout there would be better for sure if you already have your rifle or smg in the first slot
replying on Phone for whatever reason doesn't actually work so sorry for the late response. It's a solid weapon but we have better ones. Unless the maxed out unique effect is really good which I'm not sure about
They are about to become my favorite devs if they promise not to nerf things that people spent time AND money building. Unlike some other looter shooter devs like to do. A lot.
thank you for the build again !! i see when you talked about Predator instinct u change Accelerated Driveshaft to Improve Driveshaft which one is the best in your opinion ?
honestly shot focus if it works on launchers would be more consistent and better than both. Problem is getting it. It does not have a drop so you probably have to combine for it
As far as my testing suggests, the Predator instinct mod does not work with the launcher. The firearm attk does not apply and will not ramp up. You can see this as when you hover over normal frenzy it specifically says “Explosive attk - 15%”. It does not say explosive attk on the altered version predator instinct provides.
I've tested a decent bit here's a clip streamable.com/hia0v2 we can see that the number for the explosion and the dot itself increase. Firearm attack sometimes works and sometimes doesn't for launchers. It's inconsistent depending on source
@@dakquan I’ve done some further testing after watching your vod and looks like you’re correct. No clue how I missed the increasing damage the more you shoot, but looks like total damage output is only a few % difference in favour of using predator instinct, however if you miss a few rockets near the end, you miss a large portion of dmg making it worse
Curious as to what weapons you are cooking with t be better than the Organ, any suggestions you might have? I could se the Ultimate shotguns being an interesting choice for DPS.
it does and we lose 15% explosive on Predator Instinct before we get the boost so we do a little less and then a little bit more pretty much eating up a slot for no reason
it depends on how much defense you have pretty much from 20 to 40 and 40 to 80 it should be around 10 percent jumps and that would be when immunity comes in. Typically conversion is better
@dakquan Nice build, but i have 1 issue. I have more of less the exact same gear as you when using the immortal setup. Same mods with same levels, close to same auxilary gears. And im 10K less Hp then you. Rest of the stats is the same aswell. Is something bugger for me or what ?
Hey man i had to ask i just farmed ult gley, so like how is she without her red mods like will she still be able to perfom well also which is your favourite build to use
yea she'll still perform well without the red mod. Although Massacre is higher damage right now I do favor the infinite ammo set up and working on a variation of it
@@JakeDroops i haven't heard word that they changed anything regarding the framew rate so I'm not sure. I would lean towards it still being the same as before
i think theres a better possible damage build, sacrificing autoimmuinty for walking on a tightrope and the annihilation set can double your damage at 50% hp
Hey . Just watched some Guides . And you are the one with the most Module's in. I just finished my Bunny with fully moduled + weapon and wanted to start Gley. If i wanted to max Out Ultimate Gley + Launcher ( Fully moduled Slots + Energy activator ofc ) Which mods would you recommend to fully Module Suit + Weapon for Max DPS+Surv ? ( I know you talked about that , but some slots are still open @ weapon for example ) . Would appreciate an answer :)! Thanks for the Vid tho !
The Immortal set up with Gley would be a great base and then potentialy swap out one of the bulky mods for cd if you want a clean loop or "Shot Focus" mod that you have to combine for as far as I know. It has firearm damage but we'd have to check if that would apply to Launchers. It is very inconsistent. We have other weapons we're boosting up right now that could outdps the launcher and could use up more slots. If you did want to do more with the launcher elemental priority that is boosting up the rifling reinforcement and element of the weapon would be the best bet. Crit and Crit damage don't really do anything for the Launcher
@@dakquan Allright ill give it a try and see what modules i can fit in with the base of yours. Good to know that crit is useless . Hope its worth it to fully module it. Feels awkward if you just use like 6/10 Module slots because there's nothing more to take .
@@dakquan One more question , about the reactor. I heard the reactor itself is pretty useless i just aim for Duration + Skill cooldown modifier. So The colour is pretty much not relevant for any dps output or whatnot right?
@stefanboehle9682 we're cooking up numbers on some other weapons as well. Organ is still going to be the mobbing weapon but we have some alternatives for bossing
You put a catalyst in the Electric Enhancement mod, is it mandatory in the build? Because I saw that other enhancements like Toxic, etc. use another type of socket, so if I put the "Xantic" socket, if I want to change the element mod, it will increase the cost and it won't be possible to get it to the maximum level because the socket there will be different. So I wanted to understand if it's worth leaving the electric one in general or if I would have to change the element every time.
I would put the mod over the blue weak point mod instead for sure. I ended up using weak point a bit later so in terms of progression it was what I did first
@@dakquan it didn’t really feel that useful tbh. It was ok for mobbing but since with the build there isn’t much speced into skill damage it wasn’t too impactful. For bosses it’s probably better to use the cost for health mods sadly. I thought it would auto detonate the orbs but it instead uses your 2 for it. So you can also accidentally grab life orbs in spots that would be good to detonate later
If you want another weapon that is not launcher, I think Afterglow Sword and Executor might both out damage Vestigial Organ. Piercing Light have a worse Ultimate Effect so maybe look at those.
yea Afterglow is looking like one of our next picks. Piercing buff removal is cool against the first Hard Boss but for some reason they didn't give many more enemies something to dispell
@@dakquan yeah thought so haha, I farmed like 400+ today and only got 1 with dura and cd both purple lol, didnt even get dura and cd again the whole time at any rarity together... :c keep getting rare rolls of them singular lol ty though
Thanks for the video. I would be interested to know what the skill duration and cooldown time looks like with your build of Increased Sensory. It's important to me that I can always activate the skill on cooldown and don't have to wait another 1 or 2 seconds.
I’m Having hard time getting max up twice in same component , or hp /def . Is there certain components that have them or is it just low chance on purpose ?
My fault daddy. I was skipping past things in this video. And in a previous video he said he would do a build specifically for ult gley but didnt realize it. Thanks for pointing it out though daddy @ghoststriker6583
May have been asked, but why Focus on Fusion instead of Focus on Singular? Am I missing something? Also did you test Spear and shield in place of Shield COnversion? a few points less on def, but makes up 8% on skill power.
I assume it’s because it doesn’t matter with this specific build. You’re going for infinite ammo so what matters is the cooldown. The skill isn’t buffing the damage, only allowing the constant loop. If it were for his Z ability then it would matter.
I'm running close to the same thing except i run An Iron Will instead of Shield conversion. nice build :D Edit- Looking now though looks like im swapping lol 18% more def
Leveling somewhat equally would work out better due to the cost of mods going up with each upgrade but I'd focus on Defense and Hp almost to max first and go for some other strong blues mods
I’m doing my best to get any of her specific research parts for the Ultimate Gley set. So far nothing, even with stabilizers. I can tell this is going to be a tough one 💀
Hey brother, did I hear correctly that you’re saying that using an energy activator on a weapon, that other instances of the same weapon will have their energy activated?
Thanks for replies guys, was curious about this a couple days ago and people told me it would not work that way so I’ve been holding off on it. Appreciate yall. Same with the catalysts right?
First of all nice build, and why you dont change stim accelernt to battle of stamina even more cd and than you got both immortal and dps? Or am i wrong? 😂
@brochador3309 python, Afterglow, tamer, eternal willpower and a lot more guns will warm well in the set up. Just need a good but of investment to out pace the organ
to get to this point with focused grinding probably be a few days. I've spent so much time theorycrafting and just running around I'm not sure what my time is specifically because I can't look at the timer
@@dakquan mm well its not that I like it that much, I still dont have ultimate gley so I think im gonna stick with tamer for a while, first patch comes on august 1th with ultimate valby and I already waiying for ultimate bunny to finish crafting, idk if I spend mu energy activator on her since she has the four slots for mods
Hey Dakquan, any reason why you aren't using Conductor modules on your launcher? e.g. Toxic Conductor, Electric Conductor, might be worth taking a look. Edit: I see you have one leveled in the video but havent got it on.
Conductor ends up eating up the special mod slot and if we hit our shots the weakpoint into firearm increase is going to be better. The increase from priority isn't that great of a bump but can be added on later with enough space
why do you not add the gun mods to their corresponding sockets to lower their cost? also why did you not add more mods to guns when you have the capacity? thanks for the video
That portion was for those that aren't invested in the Launcher so they have a visual of how much they get for 50. There is a late game set up that has things matching with the polarity slots and such. You definitely want to match the slots and fill out all you can
I found this gold mod for special ammo.That scouts ramp like crazy I was hoping you could curate a build with scouts so we can implement these extra fire arm atk percentages. Its something like -20 fr but gain 6firearm atk 4 fr and less recoil up to 10 stacks as long as your holding the trigger.At max its 0.5sec per stack so roughly 5 seconds and you will me at max fr and damage
Building out the community discord now, not sure how quality the official discord gamers are. Blood and iron is great for high crit massacre builds. We can't heal from getting the resource back from crits
@@dakquan alright I wasn’t sure if getting the resource back from blood and iron gave hp but since it doesnt heal that takes down survivability so it makes sense why you dont use it
Should we start up a discord? What ya'll want the name to be? First thing I thought was Dak Pack .
We have a discord! discord.gg/eu6pgWHfEh
Defense Cap reddit post so we can play around with the math: new.reddit.com/r/TheFirstDescendant/comments/1dve0j8/defense_cap/
Also should mod weak point sight slot instead of the ammo one. I just didn't have it maxed at the time
I like dak pack lol
A Discord would be great to discuss Gley build (I can also share my findings with Afterglow Sword on it as well), also I knew sub 20 is very possible with Vestigial Organ. Nice build.
@@Unknown-pq7kf I'll start building or get this discord built tonight and have it up so we can all chill out in there
Yesss plz
Yes discord plz 🙏
Bro , as a low spender and Gley enjoyer, you are by far my fav buildcrafter. You offer builds for f2p as well as options with more investment instead of just catering to the heavy spenders like some do and I appreciate that more than you know. Thank you.
If it going to be the “best” or actually min maxed it’s going to have to be expensive time or money based. Learning how to do things your own and read/ theory craft goes a long way.
We are mostly all f2p, doesn't mean my character is all unlocked in every slot.
Happy to help my friend, thanks for checking out the vids
Wait you can buy your way out of grinding? I don't remember seeing any packs that let you power up so quick
@@unskillfullymasterful basically you can if you spend 500 bucks on all of the ultimate packs - then you have 5 quick slot thingies...but idk people just keep saying "i am f2p" or "as a f2p" this game endgame builds are ALL f2p nothing requires you to buy anything - i have a 6 slotted farm bunny - 7 slotted buff slave/unkillable tank yujin and do every content in the game easily
I knew this game had to do something to truly differentiate itself from other looter shooters. And I love that massive difference is not nerfing things as too many of these looter shooters feel the need to have things nerfed after players spend their own time investing into their builds only to have them stripped away. Hope this game has a long and bright future!
I mean gley doesn't really need I nerf because you got Lepic who can kill Devour in 5s
D4 needs to learn from tfd and not nerf barb 100x over
The problem comes into the fact that some builds are straight up broken, it seems more like they didn't do enough testing, which makes the game come off as a sloppy broken mess rather than an actually intended choice.
The biggest sign of this is that while some characters are ridiculously good, with builds that are idiotic, other characters are practically useless, and definitely useless in comparison.
Like this build, Enzo, the ammo guy, can do a sad attempt at this, but he's less tanky, has to reload, has to wait for CD, and is limited by MP. There is ZERO reason to use him rn as the whole "infinite ammo" meta is just easier and better.
Why would you use Esiemo, or Blair, or Valby? Anything they can do others can do better.
Yujin? More like "Y"useless.
The only reasons they're not nerfing things that are plainly too strong, is:
1. They really don't care about the game, only thing they care is $$$ 🤑💰
2. They're trying to keep the "honeymoon" period going for as long as they can, so are tiptoeing around making the community angry and not making any decisions that'll lose them money, even if it improves the game.
Your build is genius man I always give you credit when someone asks me about the build I got. Gley mains thank you brother.
I appreciate you! Trying to cook up some more stuff for us asap
Feel like this is a really good response and I'm sure there are a lot of other really strong builds yet to be discovered from how they worded this. Also they seem to have expected this so they know how their own game works which is a very good sign.
i still don't know why all ppl crying about infinite ammos whike Lepic can melt boss way way faster than Gley. and all descendant can easily solo hard boss if they invest enough.
yea I think it was a great response
I love that you show us something everyone can use without spending energy activator and 8 crystilasation catalysts or whatever they are called! awsome stuff!
I was tired of looking at 'sweaty ultimate gley' builds, so thanks for putting a guide for 'Regular Gley' for all us non-sweaty players.
Regular gley has a better default outfit so thats one reason default gley is better.
I’m praying that you hopefully get the popularity you need, you and moxsy are my favorite
@FunkyBro1ToThe10 I appreciate you! Shout out Moxsy, we've been cool for some years now
I love you man, best tfd youtuber. Concise straight to the point
I appreciate you my man
Dude ty for making these videos. You are vital to keeping my brain from melting down trying to min/max this game. Ty ty ty!
I would love a discord by the way
Have one up and running now discord.gg/UV2k5c78 . Thanks for checking out the vids
Truly thank you for giving us easy builds that we can start!
glad to help!
Gley main here.
You earned the sub ! Much love
I may be wrong because I don't know it's just what I heard another creator say. The electric priority doesn't add anything if you don't already have some base electric from another module or from the weapon. The same goes for other elements. If that's wrong please let me know
Correct
you are correct
Bury the light, instant like🤘
Great video which will help get my Gley ready for farming the hard intercept bosses.
@@smokeyninja2530 let's goo
Thank you 🔥🔥 just have to re arrange the symbols to get the discounts but worth the grind
Bro is the End Game Boss! Am currently researching Gley and I cant wait for her research to be done
@@zacort about to do all the damage
amazing video, really helps me progress my gley
thanks for checking it out!
I love gley and your build, thanks a lot man!
no problem at all, glad to help out!
Gotta like instantly for the song. Motivated
Gonna have to do the full song for one of these builds. A melee something would be fantastic with the song
maxed out my Predator instinct, sure was expensive! and to find out its kinda pointless :D the attack speed on roll is nice tho ill swap in that
Before you guys build this please keep in mind for more agile bosses this build isn't nearly as effective as predator instinct or even infinite ammo eternal willpower. Cool build, cool concept, you tested it in fully optimal conditions and i've yet to see other boss kills to show it's viability across all hard mode bossing content.
@Nenthus there's a montage killing every hard mod boss solo in the video before this and have a frost walker kill in here as well. Just takes a little bit of aiming where they will be. Not too hard to adjust to. Even have max weakpoint stacks pretty often
FYI for lazy people, you can farm transcendant mod ( even the hard mode ones) just by giving either 4 gold modules to combine which is not guaranteed to give a red mode or if you want to have a 100% chance to have a transcendant , give 4 transcendant modules that are useless to you ( or you know you wont be playing for a long time) i got gley 's explosive life ( ultimate gley exclusive mode) by doing that and i didnt even unlock pyromaniac
I never farmed for a tanscendant mode, ive got them pretty much all buy just playing and farming other stuff. 500/560
Awesome build! Should we invest into the Vestigial Organ or wait for you guys to cook up other options?
Organ is still great and is going to be our main mobbing weapon for sure. Can feel comfortable putting some into it but I would wait a bit if you want more bossing potential because we have some weapons that need a bit of investment for those to flourish there. The vestigial is best bang for the buck and will get us through all content though
Simply brilliant. 🎉 And I must comment... You're the first one I've seen approaching the construction of a build from the beginning, so that we can reach the end game... Thank you very much! I was confused as to what to do with my Gley; Thanks to this incredible work, I already have a guide hahaha. I thank!
I appreciate you! I wanted to make sure I include everybody, this game has so much in it and plus with time stamps I figure everyone can get to where they need by jumping around. Just having a "this is endgame" clip doesn't help a whole lot lmao
I have a max upgrade module increase def but it requires 16 capacity?
@@xavieralubis need to add polarity to the slot
Thanks for the video.
@@Va5e1er thanks for checking it out
Love the content man! It means alot and really helps!
The only question I have is with the reactor, I'm not sure if it was covered in the video but If I had an Ult reactor with skill cd and skill duration on it, would that still work or do ult reactors only work with the assigned Ult weapon? Thank you for your help!
thanks for checking out the vids, the bottom sub stats will still work regardless of what weapon you have
Got my duration down to 8.0 thanks too your other guide
nice
You should try the two skill crit chance crit dmg blue and purple mods with a maxed out python. You can kill any boss before duration finishes because the skill crit chance adds to weapon crit chance so your total crit chance should be around 60%. You will be able to crit for almost 1mil with 1000 fire rate if you keep hitting weak spot.
been farming python and afterglow parts for past 2 days. Definitely will give them a look. We have been cooking up inside the discord
@@dakquan Not in any discord , Will you release a Build Guide soon ? Just farmed 2 Energy activators and 20 Catalysts and wanted to start with Ultimate Gley tomorrow. Would it be clever to wait ? ( Talking about Boss-Killer solely. I have a fully moduled Ultimate Bunny for all other Content, which melts bosses aswell , and my goal is to surpass that )
yotuube replies truly don't work when they should sometimes. After a few tweaks that massacre set up should be good to go
Thanks for the video. Just to get a sense of dmg loss, what's the kill time difference between immortal and dps versions?
it's probably around 3 or 4 seconds. Not really that bad
You can polarise you're aura slot to give yourself another 5 capacity btw.
A 15% chance on a roll for 20% firerate for 5 seconds is not worth 10 slots. It would probably equate to a less than 5% increase to firerate over an entire fight. Just slap Autoimmunity on there and you basically have the best of both worlds in one build.
Definitely an option
So is Super Senses worth it? I got it a few days ago.
For a sniper build
Which one would you say is the best boss damage dealer out of the three guns you said tammer eternal willpower or vestigial organ
@Unknown-77789 Afterglow Sword and Python are looking like guns that will out pace the 3 mentioned with enough investment. I'd have to check the math but a 10 mod Tamer should be able to out pace an Organ but you need so much more investment on something that is also much worse at mobbing on top of there being better options in general
@@dakquan Alr can you let me know when your done with the math on the other two so I know which one I should build
@@dakquan have you messed with the blue beetle I heard it is really good
Gley players: *concerned*
Devs: naw fam, there are more OP builds you haven’t discovered
*cough 5sec Lepic build cough*
A true Lepic moment
Hey king, im loving the content and as far as im concerned, you started this Gley build. Just a couple of questions;
1.) Why electric on the launcher? do i swap it out if i fight something that resists electric?
2.) Why CD instead of Duration on the DPS Gley build?
Thanks in advance!
It uses CD instead of duration because the objective is to make the skill last longer than the cooldown time, this way you can activate the skill whenever the duration ends.
thanks for checking out the vids!
1) Can pick what element you would like Electric does well against several endgame bosses. Ideally you go with one that has a dot.
2) Want a combination of both but Cooldown is a better value to reduce due to it starting at 40
do you feel more tankier going full hp components instead of 50/50 with def and hp
Yea I felt tankier partially due to healing more with hp collector. At most I'd run 1 defense in this set up if you have good sub stats on components
@@dakquan preciate it
Yo homie u think demonic modifaction will be a good mod or nah? For possibly immortal build
I've heard good thing about demonic but haven't messed with it yet
Have you compare the launcher to things like WillPower? Hows the stat difference / investment?
Launcher is stronger faster. If you have more investment in Eternal due to the nature of having more things to invest in it should be closer but for a higher cost. I'll have to play around with numbers a bit and the math to give a definite answer
i love your vids! have you tried the restored relic? im wondering if a maxed one can match a vestigial. im kinda biased towards guided missiles.
@RhythmofResonance I'd have to see the scaling on the unique with more copies. I did shoot it a bit and it's not too bad it's just Organ is super good
@@dakquan the organ does seem very strong. do you recommend i run organ or python? saw in your latest vid that you are testing python curently and i heard the polarities on gley are diff for both builds.
if you want to invest in something long term to progress Python. If you want to be able to beat the whole game cheap now then Organ
@@dakquan ah thank you
where can I find action and reaction mod for the launcher?
I'd have to look at access - and then module for a good spot. I got mine through rng. You can combine for one though
Thoughts on the Agony Mod? Also, When would you use the Eternal Willpower? Would a Sniper or Scout serve us better?
@angelskyd Agony is decent but we have higher defense options. Don't need both of those guns it was to showcase those real quick
A sniper or scout there would be better for sure if you already have your rifle or smg in the first slot
hi i just got my ult gley. could i hear your thoughts on using a maxed restored relic? the 100% for guided missiles sounds interesting
replying on Phone for whatever reason doesn't actually work so sorry for the late response. It's a solid weapon but we have better ones. Unless the maxed out unique effect is really good which I'm not sure about
why not use the "battle of stamina" descendant mod instead of the " focus on fusion" one ?
u are goated for this video btw
I appreciate you! It's due to cool down giving much better return than duration. 6 cooldown is pretty drastic
Awesome thanks g
np at all my man, I just added a discord for everyone discord.gg/UV2k5c78
Bury the Light!! Hell yeah!
song is too good
hi thanks for the build. how come you have 80 module cap with MR 13? i only have 78 with energy activator MR 14. thanks!
@@jankev my character is at 40
@@dakquan thank you so much! will definitely sub and follow for more content from gley. thank you
They are about to become my favorite devs if they promise not to nerf things that people spent time AND money building. Unlike some other looter shooter devs like to do. A lot.
@@MatjeBalovich facts
thank you for the build again !!
i see when you talked about Predator instinct u change Accelerated Driveshaft to Improve Driveshaft which one is the best in your opinion ?
honestly shot focus if it works on launchers would be more consistent and better than both. Problem is getting it. It does not have a drop so you probably have to combine for it
@iogxu shot focus doesn't work so fire rate is the angle if you can hit the shots
How do you get so much HP and the cool down and duration? Bc I just don’t have enough slots for it all
activator and polarity
As far as my testing suggests, the Predator instinct mod does not work with the launcher. The firearm attk does not apply and will not ramp up.
You can see this as when you hover over normal frenzy it specifically says “Explosive attk - 15%”. It does not say explosive attk on the altered version predator instinct provides.
I've tested a decent bit here's a clip streamable.com/hia0v2 we can see that the number for the explosion and the dot itself increase. Firearm attack sometimes works and sometimes doesn't for launchers. It's inconsistent depending on source
@@dakquan I’ve done some further testing after watching your vod and looks like you’re correct. No clue how I missed the increasing damage the more you shoot, but looks like total damage output is only a few % difference in favour of using predator instinct, however if you miss a few rockets near the end, you miss a large portion of dmg making it worse
Curious as to what weapons you are cooking with t be better than the Organ, any suggestions you might have?
I could se the Ultimate shotguns being an interesting choice for DPS.
We're looking at Afterglow Sword mainly but Python and one of the shotguns I forgot the name interest me
Do firearm attack mods affect launcher weapons? If so, why not use Predator Instinct?
it does and we lose 15% explosive on Predator Instinct before we get the boost so we do a little less and then a little bit more pretty much eating up a slot for no reason
thank you for offering builds for f2p; everyone im watching im just like dang i cant do it
thanks for checking out the vids, I've definitely seen some wild set ups
Does bonus firearm atk vs colossus work? Just asking bc the rocket doesn’t scale off if other firearm atk mods and it’s other affix is explosive atk
it does, I ended up double checking. I also responded to this on the phone last week but for some reason it didn't go through. Sorry about that
Better Autoimmunity or Shield Conversion please ?
it depends on how much defense you have pretty much from 20 to 40 and 40 to 80 it should be around 10 percent jumps and that would be when immunity comes in. Typically conversion is better
where are u getting the 7.5s cool down from? i have all these mods on maxed but i cant get it bellow 12.5s
Skill Cooldown on your Reactor
@dakquan Nice build, but i have 1 issue. I have more of less the exact same gear as you when using the immortal setup. Same mods with same levels, close to same auxilary gears. And im 10K less Hp then you. Rest of the stats is the same aswell. Is something bugger for me or what ?
it might be the way the hp and such is scaling that is the issue. 400 extra hp from a substat since we invest so much in it is huge
idk if i missed it or not but did you talk about the reactor and if so what type of reactor are you using and what stats does it have?
It's in the first 3 minutes where we cover what's needed for the loop should be around 2:30
Hey man i had to ask i just farmed ult gley, so like how is she without her red mods like will she still be able to perfom well also which is your favourite build to use
yea she'll still perform well without the red mod. Although Massacre is higher damage right now I do favor the infinite ammo set up and working on a variation of it
is massacre better on console still even though they have the minis damage due to frame rate
@@JakeDroops i haven't heard word that they changed anything regarding the framew rate so I'm not sure. I would lean towards it still being the same as before
i think theres a better possible damage build, sacrificing autoimmuinty for walking on a tightrope and the annihilation set can double your damage at 50% hp
this.
I talked about both of those in the video, they don't work for the launcher but would be good for other guns for sure
@@dakquan I must have missed that! Thats interesting, thank you for the comment!
it's all good, they were very smalll inserts. I should have had it in text on the side honestly since it's so relevant
@@dakquan crit dmg tamer should be able to equal the launcher then
Consumable drop rate is for health and mana, not consumable crafting stuff?
@@bfrfoxtrot I've seen an increase in health drops as I've used it. I believe consumable crafting is the item drop rate modifier
Hey . Just watched some Guides . And you are the one with the most Module's in. I just finished my Bunny with fully moduled + weapon and wanted to start Gley. If i wanted to max Out Ultimate Gley + Launcher ( Fully moduled Slots + Energy activator ofc ) Which mods would you recommend to fully Module Suit + Weapon for Max DPS+Surv ? ( I know you talked about that , but some slots are still open @ weapon for example ) . Would appreciate an answer :)! Thanks for the Vid tho !
The Immortal set up with Gley would be a great base and then potentialy swap out one of the bulky mods for cd if you want a clean loop or "Shot Focus" mod that you have to combine for as far as I know. It has firearm damage but we'd have to check if that would apply to Launchers. It is very inconsistent. We have other weapons we're boosting up right now that could outdps the launcher and could use up more slots. If you did want to do more with the launcher elemental priority that is boosting up the rifling reinforcement and element of the weapon would be the best bet. Crit and Crit damage don't really do anything for the Launcher
@@dakquan Allright ill give it a try and see what modules i can fit in with the base of yours. Good to know that crit is useless . Hope its worth it to fully module it. Feels awkward if you just use like 6/10 Module slots because there's nothing more to take .
@@dakquan One more question , about the reactor. I heard the reactor itself is pretty useless i just aim for Duration + Skill cooldown modifier. So The colour is pretty much not relevant for any dps output or whatnot right?
@@stefanboehle9682 for this build yes
@stefanboehle9682 we're cooking up numbers on some other weapons as well. Organ is still going to be the mobbing weapon but we have some alternatives for bossing
What’s the rotation ? Do else use massacre at all?
@@architype not for this build
You put a catalyst in the Electric Enhancement mod, is it mandatory in the build? Because I saw that other enhancements like Toxic, etc. use another type of socket, so if I put the "Xantic" socket, if I want to change the element mod, it will increase the cost and it won't be possible to get it to the maximum level because the socket there will be different. So I wanted to understand if it's worth leaving the electric one in general or if I would have to change the element every time.
I would put the mod over the blue weak point mod instead for sure. I ended up using weak point a bit later so in terms of progression it was what I did first
Gley and Freyna are my favorites so far
They are some dope characters
I'll look into explosive life since I was able to nab one from my few frost walker runs
huge, let me know how it is. Any clips would be dope as well
@@dakquan it didn’t really feel that useful tbh. It was ok for mobbing but since with the build there isn’t much speced into skill damage it wasn’t too impactful. For bosses it’s probably better to use the cost for health mods sadly. I thought it would auto detonate the orbs but it instead uses your 2 for it. So you can also accidentally grab life orbs in spots that would be good to detonate later
@howbob4118 thanks for taking a look at it. Maybe we can build around it
@@dakquan no problem.I think it might be able to work as a cool mobbing build for gley but not really for rocket gley.
Trying this out 😳
let me know how it goes!
Would you recommend using the Piercing Light sniper for this build? I like the launcher but I can’t see what I’m shooting 99% of the time
If you want another weapon that is not launcher, I think Afterglow Sword and Executor might both out damage Vestigial Organ. Piercing Light have a worse Ultimate Effect so maybe look at those.
yea Afterglow is looking like one of our next picks. Piercing buff removal is cool against the first Hard Boss but for some reason they didn't give many more enemies something to dispell
I was trying to farm for the afterglow sword,I think that the python smg caught my attention.I think it has some real potential
yea we have some farming to do for a few different weapons
@@MxshrxxmsPython is really good, the only problem is her low base crit rate, and it doesnt scales well with weapon rolls and mods
any suggestions on what mission to farm for reactor?
@@Moogle Anticipated Ambush Point
@@dakquan yeah thought so haha, I farmed like 400+ today and only got 1 with dura and cd both purple lol, didnt even get dura and cd again the whole time at any rarity together... :c keep getting rare rolls of them singular lol
ty though
Thanks for the video.
I would be interested to know what the skill duration and cooldown time looks like with your build of Increased Sensory. It's important to me that I can always activate the skill on cooldown and don't have to wait another 1 or 2 seconds.
thanks for checking out the vid. I'm at 9.9 and 9.3. We can go into 10 a little bit and still not have any downtime due to the animation
I’m
Having hard time getting max up twice in same component , or hp /def . Is there certain components that have them or is it just low chance on purpose ?
Its not possible on all 4 Componens. If im Corrects its just the aux + Memory that can have both .
yea only certain can roll it
Do you plan on making an ultimate gley build?
Or would this build work fine with ultimate gley?
Did you watched the entire video? At 7:35 he shows a Ultimate Gley build.
My fault daddy. I was skipping past things in this video. And in a previous video he said he would do a build specifically for ult gley but didnt realize it. Thanks for pointing it out though daddy
@ghoststriker6583
my fault daddy is wild lmao
What affixs should i be going for on the launcher?
@@therelus2414 explosive, element, weakpoint, colossus attack
May have been asked, but why Focus on Fusion instead of Focus on Singular? Am I missing something? Also did you test Spear and shield in place of Shield COnversion? a few points less on def, but makes up 8% on skill power.
I assume it’s because it doesn’t matter with this specific build. You’re going for infinite ammo so what matters is the cooldown. The skill isn’t buffing the damage, only allowing the constant loop. If it were for his Z ability then it would matter.
Demigod is right, we are just here for the cooldown. More skill power doesn't do much for this set up at all
I'm running close to the same thing except i run An Iron Will instead of Shield conversion. nice build :D
Edit- Looking now though looks like im swapping lol 18% more def
about to be gaming
is there an order we should follow to level up mods? should i max out a specific one or level them up equally?
Leveling somewhat equally would work out better due to the cost of mods going up with each upgrade but I'd focus on Defense and Hp almost to max first and go for some other strong blues mods
@@dakquan Got it, thanks. Loving the vids btw, keep it up! Looking forward to that discord :)
Got the discord up and running discord.gg/UV2k5c78
I’m doing my best to get any of her specific research parts for the Ultimate Gley set. So far nothing, even with stabilizers. I can tell this is going to be a tough one 💀
yea it's going to be a grind for sure
Hey brother, did I hear correctly that you’re saying that using an energy activator on a weapon, that other instances of the same weapon will have their energy activated?
Yes they will
@@BabaYaga0713 yessiree
Thanks for replies guys, was curious about this a couple days ago and people told me it would not work that way so I’ve been holding off on it. Appreciate yall. Same with the catalysts right?
yea they both work
Do you necessarily need Ult gley ?
no don't need ultimate gley
@@dakquan alright bet bro
First of all nice build, and why you dont change stim accelernt to battle of stamina even more cd and than you got both immortal and dps?
Or am i wrong? 😂
the small bit of extra duration is alright but I favor the extra bulk, can change to whatever you prefer
Hi, is Overglow Sword with Supersense module good or viable?
Don't really need Super Sense
Yes, do not use Supersense you will lose a lot of DPS, but in general Afterglow Sword is probably a better option than Vestigial Organ.
I'm cooking Enzo now and almost done, should I catalyst Gley first or the rocket launcher.
Gley
@@dakquan is there any weapon that we can use other than the rocket launcher? any legendary weaps or tamer with the same gley build?
@brochador3309 python, Afterglow, tamer, eternal willpower and a lot more guns will warm well in the set up. Just need a good but of investment to out pace the organ
How long did it take you to build this character?
to get to this point with focused grinding probably be a few days. I've spent so much time theorycrafting and just running around I'm not sure what my time is specifically because I can't look at the timer
Been grinding ult gley for a couple days now.. smh so much pain
yea rng can be rough
@@dakquan bro you sound mad familiar, you use to make Fl4K build videos?!
@@Ricc___ I might have made a FL4K build or two back in the day
So, should I get a vestigial organ for each boss? I mean with different elemental dmg
you could if you want to but I'd grab a vestigial and can start building out other weapons later unless you really really like Vestigial
@@dakquan mm well its not that I like it that much, I still dont have ultimate gley so I think im gonna stick with tamer for a while, first patch comes on august 1th with ultimate valby and I already waiying for ultimate bunny to finish crafting, idk if I spend mu energy activator on her since she has the four slots for mods
yea waiting it out could be a power move for sure
Hey Dakquan, any reason why you aren't using Conductor modules on your launcher? e.g. Toxic Conductor, Electric Conductor, might be worth taking a look. Edit: I see you have one leveled in the video but havent got it on.
He said in the video that you can use it, but it's not much of a bump, so he doesnt.
Conductor ends up eating up the special mod slot and if we hit our shots the weakpoint into firearm increase is going to be better. The increase from priority isn't that great of a bump but can be added on later with enough space
Where do u find a cooldown and skill duration reactor been looking for one 4 days straight i cant get my cooldown below 12 sec
I did Anticipated Ambush point
How does the immortal version fair out without the elemental resistance mods on against some bosses?
feels great honestly, I haven't felt in danger yet but I am overgeared a bit
@@dakquan appreciate the input one more catalyst and I’m built lol I haven’t seen sun in a weeks time
i feel ya lol
what do you think of demonic modification?
I've heard good things about it but have not dabbled with it myself
Whered you find the frozen phase reactor?? I cant find it, been for it
@@pandaworld7922 rngd from Ambush Point farming in Sterile
Thanks
How well does this work without the fancy bottom mods ?
which ones are the fancy bottom ones my bad? lol
@@dakquan the pink mods you get from devour lol
youtube replies truly not working sometimes, yea it should work as long as you have enough cd and duration
why do you not add the gun mods to their corresponding sockets to lower their cost? also why did you not add more mods to guns when you have the capacity? thanks for the video
That portion was for those that aren't invested in the Launcher so they have a visual of how much they get for 50. There is a late game set up that has things matching with the polarity slots and such. You definitely want to match the slots and fill out all you can
@@dakquan thanks for clarifying!
I found this gold mod for special ammo.That scouts ramp like crazy I was hoping you could curate a build with scouts so we can implement these extra fire arm atk percentages.
Its something like -20 fr but gain 6firearm atk 4 fr and less recoil up to 10 stacks as long as your holding the trigger.At max its 0.5sec per stack so roughly 5 seconds and you will me at max fr and damage
I'll take a look at it, we have a good few weapons to grind out lol
you do any testing with blood and iron and also any recommend discord servers for getting a good team for hard bosses they been wrecking me
Building out the community discord now, not sure how quality the official discord gamers are. Blood and iron is great for high crit massacre builds. We can't heal from getting the resource back from crits
@@dakquan alright I wasn’t sure if getting the resource back from blood and iron gave hp but since it doesnt heal that takes down survivability so it makes sense why you dont use it
What mission do you do to level up Gley after using a catalyst? A lot of people say kingston defense but I find it pretty slow and boring.
I did the mining mission in Sterile Land
@@dakquan thanks mate, I forgot about that one.
I'm 100% sure they nerfed the xp in that mission. In the past it would take 3 missions done to first reward to level up.
I'll have to check, that would be unfortunate
If you could choose 1 f2p character, which character would be worth the most for the things the game gives away?
for farming and doing decent on a boss I would say Bunny but for Bossing once you get to a good point I would say Lepic
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Question could I also through in the super sensory descendant mod
@mrillusive321 you could but it would be a lot worse