I struggle with mids who just refuse to base. They will brain dead shove abs everything and as i play in normals junglers are to busy drooling on themselves to read the pings. I dont want to give plates so Im just frozen in a lane defending.
Man this is a very informative video. I was literally able to get ahead of my enemy midlander by more than 50 cs by applying your tips. Thank you and keep up the great work!
Going to base after flight is such a common mistake I see. We win fight and people go base or do our camps when we can easily push waves, turrets or get enemy camps. I hate it
Fortunately I play Kayle and Kassadin so this doesn't really matter at all because my champions are so piss fucking useless I can never pressure with my hp and mana adventage xd
i had a game recently i was Diana mid vs Zed and enemy jg was Warwick and i could never take a good recall all game. I solo killed Zed at level 3 and my wave was in an aweful spot but i had to back cuz i know if i’m ever low in lane warwick will just b line to me. I find it really difficult to get good quality resets against high tempo gank junglers. Any tips for this?
Try and call your jungler, but if they can't come then you either int to crash the wave or bite the bullet and reset. Definitely tough situation to be though, if you know where their jungler is sometimes you can crash it on your own by leaning to a side (but again, pretty tough vs ww)
18:20 - "if your team wants to pressure you pressure with them" What would u have done in this exact situation where u have 2000 gold to spend if your team decided to push instead of base? This is the type of situation where i honestly feel lost in my decisions cuz i have huge gold lead but instead of spending it im forced to stay so im trolling BUT if i dont stay and leave them without me on the map im trolling again :D What is your opinion on this situation ?
Hello! Good day, I'm not really a league player, because I don't have a pc. But I think it would be situational. Like what I would think is the chances of winning. If you and your team are full health and the other is at 33% I feel it would nice to go. If it's a equal situation I would ping.... Trying to tell them to back away for a little bit and then go buy. But the best advice I could give is like, don't get into that situation, try to back before having a huge gold lead and needing to be in a fight, like, really try to not have 3000 gold on the bag before fighting baron. I hope I helped! Good day!
I would probably try base and spam ping my team back, maybe even type something in chat. If they aren't backing off I'd probably cancel the base but I'd be very sad about it
I got a question. Is there another possibility (basing from behind), when I'm not able to do the thing with waiting for the wave and the perfect timing to base then, is there another way to get a good base in a losing matchup?
You can wait for a cannon creep but it's still not ideal since they will take a plate (but you will lose less gold), otherwise you just play around TP ideally
I'm playing low elo and I like learning and trying to apply these more advanced techniques but I think that since other players are also beginners and not very aware of some of the game's mechanics, their game style is pretty random and I end up not obtaining the advantages I expect if that makes any sense. Also, I often tend to recall with very low health and mana because of a bad trade, after that I lose creeps and maybe a tower plate because the enemy pushes the wave and then recalls, but if I stay as a melee champ I can't do much without risking to be killed. Am I doing everything wrong?
Sounds like you might need to work on your laning fundamentals like wave control, trading and cooldowns before you work on your base timings. Melee champions do kinda expect to get chunked out but can create threat onto their opponents through wave control and punishing their CDs which makes it harder for them to punish you, and normally after your first base you should be able to play the lane fine. The reality is there is a shit ton of stuff in this game that you can be good at/bad at and pretty much all of it interacts with each other which makes it hard to identify your own issues sometimes.
If the video is uploaded 17 seconds ago does that mean i am the most well informed league player for the next 20 minutes?
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just press B lol
I struggle with mids who just refuse to base. They will brain dead shove abs everything and as i play in normals junglers are to busy drooling on themselves to read the pings. I dont want to give plates so Im just frozen in a lane defending.
Man this is a very informative video. I was literally able to get ahead of my enemy midlander by more than 50 cs by applying your tips. Thank you and keep up the great work!
Glad it works well for you
Ive been searching soooo long for a guid about this topic, really happy that ur doing one!! Thanks alot (:
Going to base after flight is such a common mistake I see. We win fight and people go base or do our camps when we can easily push waves, turrets or get enemy camps. I hate it
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Fortunately I play Kayle and Kassadin so this doesn't really matter at all because my champions are so piss fucking useless I can never pressure with my hp and mana adventage xd
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i had a game recently i was Diana mid vs Zed and enemy jg was Warwick and i could never take a good recall all game. I solo killed Zed at level 3 and my wave was in an aweful spot but i had to back cuz i know if i’m ever low in lane warwick will just b line to me. I find it really difficult to get good quality resets against high tempo gank junglers. Any tips for this?
Try and call your jungler, but if they can't come then you either int to crash the wave or bite the bullet and reset. Definitely tough situation to be though, if you know where their jungler is sometimes you can crash it on your own by leaning to a side (but again, pretty tough vs ww)
press b on your keyboard
how to base ?
Press B
Saw this one coming
18:20 - "if your team wants to pressure you pressure with them" What would u have done in this exact situation where u have 2000 gold to spend if your team decided to push instead of base? This is the type of situation where i honestly feel lost in my decisions cuz i have huge gold lead but instead of spending it im forced to stay so im trolling BUT if i dont stay and leave them without me on the map im trolling again :D What is your opinion on this situation ?
Hello! Good day, I'm not really a league player, because I don't have a pc.
But I think it would be situational.
Like what I would think is the chances of winning.
If you and your team are full health and the other is at 33% I feel it would nice to go.
If it's a equal situation I would ping.... Trying to tell them to back away for a little bit and then go buy.
But the best advice I could give is like, don't get into that situation, try to back before having a huge gold lead and needing to be in a fight, like, really try to not have 3000 gold on the bag before fighting baron.
I hope I helped! Good day!
I would probably try base and spam ping my team back, maybe even type something in chat. If they aren't backing off I'd probably cancel the base but I'd be very sad about it
You have earned yourself another subscriber :) great content! Like all the other videos :)
I got a question. Is there another possibility (basing from behind), when I'm not able to do the thing with waiting for the wave and the perfect timing to base then, is there another way to get a good base in a losing matchup?
You can wait for a cannon creep but it's still not ideal since they will take a plate (but you will lose less gold), otherwise you just play around TP ideally
What the hell are the comps in these replays shok XD. Syndra Nidalee vs Viktor Lilia.
Not the best that's for sure
Shok your content is amazing
can you make a talon guide pls?
Amazing video! Tysm for another great video on an area I need to improve on
Another useful insane vid. Thanks!
Thanks for making us better
Your videos are so good thanks💪🏼
Very good explanation, love these videos!♥️
Thank you for this guide
I'm playing low elo and I like learning and trying to apply these more advanced techniques but I think that since other players are also beginners and not very aware of some of the game's mechanics, their game style is pretty random and I end up not obtaining the advantages I expect if that makes any sense. Also, I often tend to recall with very low health and mana because of a bad trade, after that I lose creeps and maybe a tower plate because the enemy pushes the wave and then recalls, but if I stay as a melee champ I can't do much without risking to be killed. Am I doing everything wrong?
Sounds like you might need to work on your laning fundamentals like wave control, trading and cooldowns before you work on your base timings. Melee champions do kinda expect to get chunked out but can create threat onto their opponents through wave control and punishing their CDs which makes it harder for them to punish you, and normally after your first base you should be able to play the lane fine. The reality is there is a shit ton of stuff in this game that you can be good at/bad at and pretty much all of it interacts with each other which makes it hard to identify your own issues sometimes.
@@ShokLeague yeah exactly, there are so many factors to take into account. Btw thank you, I will work on that
Great content man, appreciate it!
Another goated video
Thank you for vid
as always, thanks!
16:50 Me Personally I base when i have 2k gold, and that's why I'm hard stuck iron ;)
i learned all the tips that you taught but I don't play rank anymore, just normal LOL
Yo Shok! Thanks for your vids and awesome content. Always quality. Appreciate ya! 🤘👊
When should i take TP As a yasuo
Based video
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Stopped playing league, still love your content man. Keep it up ! i hope you're doing good my friend
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