New video of Riker and Picard's last meeting from Season 3 of Picard, this one with the very first meeting prior to Riker entering Picard's ready room: ruclips.net/video/g3pN0Iw3-2Q/видео.html
Episode 2 would've been like a Star Trek version of "Law and Order" (for Rikers courts martial). Picard woild also be in deep doo doo, thats a big risk to take with a brand spanking new flagship; we likely would have a distinctly different memory of TNG 😂 Seriously, it would be like the CO of the Nimitz telling his new XO to put to sea with no harbor pilot or tugs....even if all went perfectly he would lose his command. Good thing Trek isn't super realistic regarding military customs and procedures 😂
@@twoeightythreez It's also really dumb because Data can calculate all of that in real time, so at any given moment he receives an order to change the pitch angle or whatever he knows exactly when the order is off by .005%, but he still has to execute some mortal's rough estimation even if it's completely unnesseccary, even if Data knows it's wrong, and he could do it blindfolded in milliseconds. But no, Picard hat to create this profoundly dumb situation just so Riker could prove himself at a task that's not even relevant to his position
Fantastic leadership by Picard for getting Riker to do this test. Riker is second in command of the *entire ship*. Not only should he know exactly how to do this, but doing this in front of the command crew really solidifies their trust in him.
To the people complaining that Riker didn’t actually perform the docking at the helm himself: This is how it would work IRL. In the Navy, the officers give orders and directions to the crew, and they carry them out. The Captain or Chief Mate (first officer) wouldn’t actually put in coordinates or maneuver the ship themselves unless in an extreme emergency. Riker followed the chain of command properly, and delegated the task in the appropriate manner.
in Star Trek Insurrection Riker does take manual control by taking the Enterprise into the nebula where it is suggested this might become known as the Riker Maneuver.
Great move by Picard. In one fell swoop, Picard gets to test Riker to see what kind of first officer he has. Also, it gives Riker the opportunity to earn the respect of the crew.
I never got to this episode - I gave up on Ep6 and so glad of it. That line makes me cringe each time I see it - it sounds like it was written by someone that just googled it.
@@purefoldnz3070 I think toughest in that it was built to be unsinkable. But, yeah, it was a luxury passenger liner, not a warship, so not really that tough, fast, or powerful.
Picard liked to test those under his command, and gave those who served him well the highest level of respect. To count Picard as a personal friend would have to be the greatest honor.
I think that is what gave so much weight to Deanna and Beverly always calling him Jean Luc. To earn that level of deference from the man must have been an amazing thing. Granted Q did it too, but he's Q.
@@Powermad-bu4em Yes! I think back to X-Men Unlimited #1 where Scott, second in command of the team, had trouble calling Prof. X "Charles," despite Chuck's insistence. It's a matter of respect and ALSO intimacy. Like, there's a relationship there, and that relationship matters. It denotes a level of respect and trust. Some people show that differently than others. And, since this is fiction and not "official US Navy etc. protocol," it all makes sense in context. As it's fiction, it helped solidify the interplay between characters.
"Just because I didn't try to talk you out of it, doesn't mean I was going to let you go it alone." That hits hard. Not just as someone who served with Picard, but as someone who considers him a very close friend.
I like the little touch of him NOT taking the command seat. Instead standing by it and just keeping his hand on it. Showing how he still is deferring there.
fun fact, the real life reason Jonathan Frakes (Will Riker) actually leans all of the time, rather than sitting down like everyone else, is because he injured his back and finds it painful to sit for long periods of time. Google "the Riker Lean"
Ywah, The Enterprise D was literally built to look graceful as the ship to often make first contact and enter diplomatic missions. The bridge screams that and damn I missed the lights. So many dark bridges nowadays it makes no sense. Even if you're working on consoles and monitors and what have you, it's not good to work with lights out lol
@@909part3 Yeah, Voyager was sleek like the Enterprise E. Tbh, I love how modern the E looked, but the Enterprise D had a certain elegance and grace to her.
Goddamn that scene in Picard brings a tear to my eye every time. Patrick Stewart and Jonathan Frakes have a synergy that is rare and beautiful to watch.
Picard: "Commander Riker will conduct a manual docking." Riker: "Hold my beer...I'm gonna do this VERBALLY!" O'Brian thinking: "What am I, chopped liver?"
O'Brian just blindly entered the numbers into the computer here. Data entry, basically. Riker figured out in real time what the angles, speeds, and times should be, using only visual feedback and his own experience.
the Manual docking means only that the computer has no input into it at all as most times it is done by the computer to ensure it does not go wrong as over the yrs it has been proven that human error can cause the docking to go wrong damaging both parts of the shi[
It is not easy to do perfect pitch without a grid display or digits that show pith roll and yaw. Astronauts usually check the Navball for deciding their pitch not the ISS vision from window. And even then, it's automated since the Soyuz programme. (engineer note: automation is succeeded by a sensored navball* sending inputs to computer) He decided everything by looking at the -ungrided- naked display. That is hard to do even in Kerbal Space Program. It's easier to summon the Kraken than breaking eggs while trying that. A grave risk! But you won't know what i mean unless you never tried it in a simulation. Do not underestimate this. Btw, Data could do this but he has flight data display on his screen, and additional flight navigator built-in to his visual circuit. Most humans cannot. Try docking in KSP if you don't believe it, it's a marvelous simulator and a space engineering game. *Navball basically is a 3D compass showing XYZ instead of just North-South
We see the battle bridge a few times, but I think you're right, the ready room only shows up this once. It's a shame, it's a neat concept. Wish they'd done more with it.
@@rohultima There's a subtle transition after the Best of Both Worlds and all those ships lost where the Enterprise was in less deep space exploration, and was on stand-by to be ready for Cardassian agression.
@@teytreet7358 Basic principle of motion: An object in motion remains in motion until acted upon by an outside force. This is also called drift. The space shuttle and probes do this in space all the time so that they don't have to carry lots of extra fuel for forward motion.. So, until reverse thrust is applied, that section of the ship will remain in motion, same with the saucer section, only the battle bridge section was going a minute amount faster, which could, if the battle bridge had been bigger than the saucer section, caused some bumpiness when they bumped into each other, but it's not. The saucer section was intentionally designed to be bigger for this reason alone.
Yeah I actually hate how sexist this was - not that she was hit for him… but that they portrayed her being such a damsel “omg this is so terrifying.. he’s doing IT!! Omg he’s so hot!”
Riker: I am qualified but I haven't done it since the Academy, and, frankly I wasn't very good at it...but if you're sure...I'll give it a whirl. Bridge crew: Ugh! We're gonna die! Picard: Ha! ha! Ha! Weee! What an adventure!
Picard isn't even in the bridge. He's not breathing on Riker's neck daring him to fail. He gave Riker a way to show himself to the crew while testing Riker's response to carrying out commands.
Yes, and you see how the relationship changes from strict command to one of trust and comraderie. Validated at the end of Nemesis and transitioning into Star Trek: Picard, it shows the evolution of Riker becoming a true captain and Picard's evolution into wisdom. I love the episode where Riker calls picard out when Soji gives that little "head tilt" and tells him he's not ready to handle a teenager.
Riker and picards relationship is so strong. It’s a combination in my opinion of father and son and very close friends. The trust between those two characters is incredible
As a first episode, this worked on so many levels. What I most enjoy is that the "protoforms" of the characters personalities are all there; Picard's austere, yet fair leadership, riker's personable confidence with the crew, Jeordi's loquacious introvertness. They didn't change _Too much_ from this point...with the exception of Data; on several instances here, he was less robitc and even hinted emotions, despite the innocent logic and brilliance. And the whole docking test....pure gold.
I dont watch the new shows but that was my first thought. TNG it was just the two parts of the ship coming together was drama (most under unutilized thing in all ST). The new one it has to be a 1000 ships face off.
Not only that, it was a 1000 ‘carbon copy’ ships, why did they stop at 1000? Why not 10,000, 100,000, or even 1,000,000 Starfleet ships - it would’ve had the same amount of tension (ie zero).
@@AnthonyC90 That pretty much sums up modern Trek. Yeah, every episode wasn't necessarily a winner, but overall TNG was a master class in building narrative tension, character development, and plot. New Trek seems basically mired in disrespecting legacy characters to benefit new ones, and having a good cry in between pointless swearing because they've got nothing else.
@@finscreenname Star Trek is first and foremost a character-based drama with science fiction as a vehicle. The show relied on writing and skilled actors to create a compelling show that could easily be remade as a stage show with minimal special effects and unspectacular action sequences without losing any of its appeal. You don't need high budget spectacles as visual cues to show the audience that the stakes of a situation are dire. All you need is characters that feel like real people reacting genuinely as if they were faced with the aforementioned peril.
“So, Captain Picard, within your first week of commanding Starfleet’s flagship Galaxy Class, you order your rookie 1st Officer to perform a manual docking resulting in 37 deaths, 55 trillion Spacebucks of damage, and putting it out of commission for 2 years? Did the academy not mention that those automated systems are there to prevent precisely this, Captain?” Join us next week for more adventures with Ensign Picard.
Wish there was a followup to this with O'Brien telling Riker, "Sir, all due respect, but you had no idea what the hell you were talking about back when we did that manual docking. I did it my own way and I did it right'
Riker had the con and his orders were correct. O'Brien or Data could have warned had he been in error. Their concern was an officer whom they did not know on his first activity in that role. Had O'Brien or similar said that in a real situation he would be removed. It is apparent that Picard trusted him else he would also have been on the bridge. That is how the RAN worked
I will miss Picard and Ryker and of course Data. In fact I will miss all of the crew. The end of an era. Let us hope they go boldly were no one has gone before.
i know people complain that its a "copy paste fleet", but it really makes sense to have a bunch of the same class as a fleet: same parts, easier manufacturing. overall its just easier for starfleet. (and also for crew to adapt between starships)
I love how this clip captures how Picard immediately establishes his authority as captain of the Enterprise while simultaneously establishing the seeds of the bond, friendship and trust that defines their professional relationship and then showcases how that bond, trust and loyalty that Picard naturally inspires is just as strong 35 years later.
i think it would be better to pair it with the ready room scene at the end of nemesis, that scene seem to be deliberately set to contrast this first one and bring that chapter of their relationship to a close.
@@heywardhollis1160 people were expecting a TNG 2.0 and were shocked when PIC wasn't TNG 2.0. Picard is a decent series. It has soke flaws but it is every bit Trek as the rest of it. Give it a go.
Jean Luc was more of a father to Riker than his own diplomat father, Tasha felt the same way of Picard. Picard had a special quality about him being a father figure despite he didnt have kids until much later as depicted in Picard series (excluding the Inner Light episode)
The saucer joining sequence is a little silly in retrospect. He gave like 3 directions, none of which really made a difference. He pretty much just eyeballed it, and the whole thing took basically one minute.
They show-runners realised the saucer separation was so slow and ponderous that audiences would get bored - so we didn't see it much after this first episode.
"Just because I didn't talk you out of this doesn't mean I'm going to let you go it alone." And right there part of the appeal of TNG and Picard - that sense of belonging, family, loyalty and friendship that transcends everything. And why it is so damned satisfying. Up there with Discovery's wonderful "we are Starfleet" moment
Captain Picard's greatest regret is that he failed to assemble a fleet in time to save romulines under threat from a supernova... Riker shows up out of retirement with a fleet of super advanced ships he's just pulled of nowhere at the last minute... Picard: uh.. Thanks Will... but wtf man?
Goosebumps, chills, down my emontional spine. I don't know how to say it properly in English. But that moment when I heard Riker say Admiral Picard, after all these years. It felt like the kid who watched that first episode some time ago was on the same room at the same time than the man I am now.
Riker: I’m on the toughest, fastest- (Bridge crew looking at each other thinking: “what the hell is he talking about?-this is supply ship.) Riker: -Most powerful ship that Star Fleet has put into service.
one of my favorit edits of TNG is THIS clip by THIS channel. I watched this 30 times... Because 1) This guy is a real fan and 2.) hes not begging for donations. He just uploaded this for us... Thanks man..
But not enough to evacuate their home-world somehow? - Why blame your own government and 1000’s of Romulan Military Officers for failing to save millions, when you can blame ONE dithering old admiral in a foreign empire for all your problems??
Except if it was that big of an issue Frakes would have said so and given he was respected enough to direct as well would have been listened to. Not to mention Patrick Stewart was a producer and would have overridden it. This Riker has been out of action for a number of years and lost a child. This is far from the same Riker who stood on the bridge of the Enterprise. Oh and calling for “deflectors to full” actually dates back to TOS. Stop hating on new trek just because it’s not exactly the same as the trek we grew up with. It’s not the same because the world that influences all fiction isn’t the same.
@@christopherwhiteford3263 the thing is, Trek is an established universe, it's a genre, & it already exists, a universe that's separate from ours.. to me, if you do ST, do it in the spirit it was written in, a spirit of the 80s & 90s... but probably, writing new Trek now is just odd, sort of reminiscent of France re-instating the Royal Musketeer's in the late 19th century. if you do not want to write basically a fanfiction or fanservice type of movie, then write something else, maybe vaguely related but a veritable new thing (I do not have any issues with Babylon 5, or other such shows being different, I have an issue with trying to re-write the old trek characters and Universe, even with DS9!) Discovery & Picard looks like a good shows if they did not claim to be Trek.
Manually. Standing around giving orders, not pressing a single button. Whoever thought this was some epic badass moment at the drawing board must've been out of his mind.
I thought that, but also O'Brian is crapping himself because manual docking means that HE has to steer the thing back together and hope that he doesn't put the Enterprise in a dry dock for major repairs if he slips up. 😏
Not only does it manually, but does it by eye. He's not checking any displays for pitch or yaw or distance or velocity numbers, totally just doin' it by watching some video feed, he's the man, lol.
Data showing lots of emotion on his face. I guess they forgot to tell Brent Spiner that the android doesn't have an emotion chip yet, so chill out on the facial expressions.
I see that a lot, especially in the first season. So many facial expressions for an android. I guess one could argue that he was programmed to have those 'tics' in order to appear more human, but, it is still a little out of character knowing what he is supposed to be.
He clearly had emotions already before the chip. No way to process them or express them or understand them, but there are hundreds of times he demonstrates that he has emotions. Some of the most frequently seen are his longing to be more human, his curiosity... But he has all kinds of emotions, they're just a total puzzle to him. And he barely expresses them.
He’s promoting a brilliant young man, ahead of many others, into First Officer role of the Federation flagship.He has complete confidence in him or he wouldn’t have asked him. A massive risk to take for a new captain. It was a way of saying “I trust you” and seeing if he really had what it took. The stress of long-range exploration and conflict will need men who absorb risk and responsibility like a sponge with no back-up from home. And it shows Picard for what he is underneath his “boring” exterior. A very daring and self-confident man. An ice-blooded calculator, in fact, who takes massive risks when he knows a way to get to the edge of the performance envelope. And pick out the men who can get there too. And he doesn’t even look after him when having dismissed him. He was indifferent and fully absorbed in his reading. That shows total confidence in Riker. A clever way to make sure his crew knew to respect Riker despite his meteoric career rise.
Riker continued to stay exceptionally long as the Enterprise's First Officer even after being offered his own command multiple times. I'm sure Picard appreciated having a very experienced and reliable First Officer in all the tense situations, instead of having to "break in" and get used to a new one.
Funnily enough, Data is still at Ops... O'Brien is steering. The Ops and Helm positions seem to be reversed on the battle bridge. Typical Trek continuity problem. I wonder if they filmed the battle bridge scenes then decided to swap them for the main bridge scenes.
Data was curious, O'brien and Tasha were freaking out, Riker was cool and confident, Picard was sitting in his room waiting to see if Riker made the cut. Picard placed a great deal of trust in his officers, even when they seemed to go astray he was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and they always had his back even when his actions might be questionable or his reasoning off. They were a loyal and effective family that was always there for each other no matter the odds and Q help anyone that f-cked with them.
I watched every one of of the Enterprise, Captain Picard and as well as the original one with Captain Kirk, not forgetting Captain Janeway, Star Trek Discovery, Deep Space Nine and I love them all but my favorite always been the Enterprise.
For an android with no emotions, Data acts very nervous in this scene. Of course many may argue that he was only mimicking the human emotion of nervousness.
One of the alleged scene designers said they wanted a variety of ships in this scene but money may have been a factor. He didn't actually see the final product. Allegedly
Ya just having 3 or 4 ships on each side, of different classes would have been cooler then 100s of the same thing. Ds9 made the battles cool by having ships that actually move around and battle vs TNG where they basically stand still and shoot. I know a limitation of the tech from then. But I think that's all the new shows need to
So as a IT Product owner, I was put in a similar situation with a software release. My first initial task was to do a salesforce release and oversee every aspect of it. Very quick way to ensure you prove your abilities and worth real quick. Not in the military but I can appreciate the need to be put in the hot seat to prove a point.
1:01 I am often annoyed because I thought that Data was supposed to be an emotionless robot, however he often shows a huge amount of emotion, a lot more than Spock would. Although the emotion he most often shows is puzzlement.
It is the first episode, and they did this a lot throughout the show, when it suited the script you would have data saying I have no feeling etc. But then there's many episodes where he makes an expression like this, not a hugely emotive one, but one nonetheless.
Will Riker performs a manual docking a When he first arrives on the Enterprise D from the battle bridge . On the final mission of the Enterprise D, Riker performs an emergency saucer separation from the Main Bridge
Great idea! New video is now live, a different clip from TNG, the actual first meeting where Picard ignored Riker. Thank you for the idea! ruclips.net/video/g3pN0Iw3-2Q/видео.html
Saucer separation was one of those ideas that should have been left on the cutting floor. Since the effects budget rarely allowed them to use separation, it meant that when they did it begged the question of why it was necessary, and when they didn't we all wondered why it wasn't tried.
I would love to see Riker in command of a old ship like the USS Yorktown Excelsior class starship or the USS Hood Excelsior class starship or the USS Texas galaxy-class Starship or the USS California galaxy-class Starship
He does command a decommissioned starship of an older class in an episode of ST TNG. It is in the 2nd season...as Dr. Crusher isn't the doctor in the episode...
New video of Riker and Picard's last meeting from Season 3 of Picard, this one with the very first meeting prior to Riker entering Picard's ready room:
ruclips.net/video/g3pN0Iw3-2Q/видео.html
"Going in manually, no automation."
Data turns himself off mid docking.
Shout out to Miles Edward O'Brien... an unsung hero of TNG and DS9.
Imagine if Riker got it wrong and smashed into the ship & the credits just rolled & there was no episode 2 lol.
Episode 2 would've been like a Star Trek version of "Law and Order" (for Rikers courts martial). Picard woild also be in deep doo doo, thats a big risk to take with a brand spanking new flagship; we likely would have a distinctly different memory of TNG 😂
Seriously, it would be like the CO of the Nimitz telling his new XO to put to sea with no harbor pilot or tugs....even if all went perfectly he would lose his command. Good thing Trek isn't super realistic regarding military customs and procedures 😂
Star Trek: The Next KABOOM!!!
Cmdr. Taggart: "You gotta, move to the right. You gotta-"
I was imagining a spoof ending, while they were all congratulating each other, pan to ship orbiting the planet, then KABOOM 💥💥💥🤯🤣🤣🤣
@@twoeightythreez It's also really dumb because Data can calculate all of that in real time, so at any given moment he receives an order to change the pitch angle or whatever he knows exactly when the order is off by .005%, but he still has to execute some mortal's rough estimation even if it's completely unnesseccary, even if Data knows it's wrong, and he could do it blindfolded in milliseconds. But no, Picard hat to create this profoundly dumb situation just so Riker could prove himself at a task that's not even relevant to his position
I thought by "manually" that he expected Riker to go out in a space suit with some rope and haul the thing in.
That my friend, would be done in The Pirates of The Carribian...
Lol...well said😅
Oh, you!
Ah reminds me of that grappling hook from enterprise lol
Fantastic leadership by Picard for getting Riker to do this test. Riker is second in command of the *entire ship*. Not only should he know exactly how to do this, but doing this in front of the command crew really solidifies their trust in him.
Almost like Captain Sulu covering Kirk's ass on Star Trek 6. I liked how old friends can still stand up for each other.😁
Except what if he had screwed it up? The looks on Data and Yar's faces suggested it was a dangerous manoeuvre.
@@Littletime839 If he screwed it up, then he didn't deserve his command position. It's like not expecting the bus driver to be able to park the bus
Touché!👍
you hit the nail on the head with that one!
To the people complaining that Riker didn’t actually perform the docking at the helm himself:
This is how it would work IRL. In the Navy, the officers give orders and directions to the crew, and they carry them out.
The Captain or Chief Mate (first officer) wouldn’t actually put in coordinates or maneuver the ship themselves unless in an extreme emergency.
Riker followed the chain of command properly, and delegated the task in the appropriate manner.
in Star Trek Insurrection Riker does take manual control by taking the Enterprise into the nebula where it is suggested this might become known as the Riker Maneuver.
and yet later Picard MANUALLY flew the ship through a mine field alone with his own hands, isntead of barking orders like Riker.
@@michaelhyde-parker6344 Also called "smoke from nacelles":) First and hopefuly the last use of joystick in ST.
@@AzguardMike Entirely different scenario. That was a one person procedure.
@@TheFlymar Man that was the stupidest thing ever in Star Trek...
Great move by Picard. In one fell swoop, Picard gets to test Riker to see what kind of first officer he has. Also, it gives Riker the opportunity to earn the respect of the crew.
Exactly!
Well put.
And it's always a great chance to practice - you don't get to do those manoeuvres very often.
"I'm on the bridge of the toughest, fastest, most powerful ship" Captain of the Titanic April 1912.
toughest and most powerful ship? ahahahahaaha
I never got to this episode - I gave up on Ep6 and so glad of it. That line makes me cringe each time I see it - it sounds like it was written by someone that just googled it.
She was un-hull-breachable!
The Titanic wasn't the fastest cruise liner at the time and never claimed it either.
Yeah, I'm fun at parties too. 🙃😜
@@purefoldnz3070 I think toughest in that it was built to be unsinkable. But, yeah, it was a luxury passenger liner, not a warship, so not really that tough, fast, or powerful.
Picard liked to test those under his command, and gave those who served him well the highest level of respect. To count Picard as a personal friend would have to be the greatest honor.
I think that is what gave so much weight to Deanna and Beverly always calling him Jean Luc. To earn that level of deference from the man must have been an amazing thing. Granted Q did it too, but he's Q.
Would have really backfired on Picard if Riker had destroyed the Enterprise.
thats how i feel about my homies
@@Powermad-bu4em Yes! I think back to X-Men Unlimited #1 where Scott, second in command of the team, had trouble calling Prof. X "Charles," despite Chuck's insistence. It's a matter of respect and ALSO intimacy. Like, there's a relationship there, and that relationship matters. It denotes a level of respect and trust. Some people show that differently than others. And, since this is fiction and not "official US Navy etc. protocol," it all makes sense in context. As it's fiction, it helped solidify the interplay between characters.
"Just because I didn't try to talk you out of it, doesn't mean I was going to let you go it alone." That hits hard. Not just as someone who served with Picard, but as someone who considers him a very close friend.
Only comment im leaving a like and reply for.
I suppose it beats. "I figured you wouldn't take no for an answer"
I teared up to that. :)
I like the little touch of him NOT taking the command seat. Instead standing by it and just keeping his hand on it. Showing how he still is deferring there.
fun fact, the real life reason Jonathan Frakes (Will Riker) actually leans all of the time, rather than sitting down like everyone else, is because he injured his back and finds it painful to sit for long periods of time. Google "the Riker Lean"
No matter how many pieces she's in, the Enterprise D will always be the most beautiful spaceship ever to grace a screen ❤
I myself am a Defiant man
I dont know. I love the way Voyager looked.
Ywah, The Enterprise D was literally built to look graceful as the ship to often make first contact and enter diplomatic missions. The bridge screams that and damn I missed the lights. So many dark bridges nowadays it makes no sense. Even if you're working on consoles and monitors and what have you, it's not good to work with lights out lol
@@909part3 Yeah, Voyager was sleek like the Enterprise E. Tbh, I love how modern the E looked, but the Enterprise D had a certain elegance and grace to her.
Goddamn that scene in Picard brings a tear to my eye every time. Patrick Stewart and Jonathan Frakes have a synergy that is rare and beautiful to watch.
After all these years it was so incredible to see Will Riker return and have Picards back.
Riker loves tge man like a father he would die for that man even it means his job or orders.
For me the best was seeing how Riker is spending his life on peaceful planet with Troi and outdoor pizza oven:)
Anyone else start smiling as Riker connects, then see everyone smile and start smiling wider? lol
What a great scene.
I certainly smiled. TNG, such a great show
Picard: "Commander Riker will conduct a manual docking."
Riker: "Hold my beer...I'm gonna do this VERBALLY!"
O'Brian thinking: "What am I, chopped liver?"
O'Brian just blindly entered the numbers into the computer here. Data entry, basically. Riker figured out in real time what the angles, speeds, and times should be, using only visual feedback and his own experience.
the Manual docking means only that the computer has no input into it at all as most times it is done by the computer to ensure it does not go wrong as over the yrs it has been proven that human error can cause the docking to go wrong damaging both parts of the shi[
@@junbh2 He was just babbling while Data actually did everything to make sure it went smoothly.
That’s exactly what Riker should have done. It’s called the chain of command and delegation.
It’s exactly how a ship in the navy is run IRL.
It is not easy to do perfect pitch without a grid display or digits that show pith roll and yaw. Astronauts usually check the Navball for deciding their pitch not the ISS vision from window. And even then, it's automated since the Soyuz programme. (engineer note: automation is succeeded by a sensored navball* sending inputs to computer)
He decided everything by looking at the -ungrided- naked display. That is hard to do even in Kerbal Space Program. It's easier to summon the Kraken than breaking eggs while trying that. A grave risk! But you won't know what i mean unless you never tried it in a simulation.
Do not underestimate this.
Btw, Data could do this but he has flight data display on his screen, and additional flight navigator built-in to his visual circuit.
Most humans cannot.
Try docking in KSP if you don't believe it, it's a marvelous simulator and a space engineering game.
*Navball basically is a 3D compass showing XYZ instead of just North-South
It's funny to see how much Riker in Picard 2021 looks like his future self in TNG's finale All Good Things!
Uh, Patrick Stewart's actual appearance today is far closer to the final 10 minutes of 'The Inner Light', IMHO...😏
I read that even in those TOS and TNG episodes where they aged, the actors said that it was quite accurate about how they actually did.
Interesting how this was the first and only time we got to see the captain's ready room for the drive section, if memory serves.
We see the battle bridge a few times, but I think you're right, the ready room only shows up this once. It's a shame, it's a neat concept. Wish they'd done more with it.
Interesting? Indeed, however it does feel a bit strange how after all these years the enterprise is no longer the flagship of the federation
and I think it's the only room with a door that opens to one side only.
@@skynetprime82 it wasn't always the flagship, even in st:ng
@@rohultima There's a subtle transition after the Best of Both Worlds and all those ships lost where the Enterprise was in less deep space exploration, and was on stand-by to be ready for Cardassian agression.
Great video showing how far their two characters had come and how close they become.
Picard and Riker still the best love story in all of television
Riker: "The inertia should do the job". O'Brien: "Uh sir". "What exactly do you mean by should"?
All velocity 0...how are they suppose to come together, right?
"idk, just thought it sounded cool"
@@teytreet7358 Basic principle of motion: An object in motion remains in motion until acted upon by an outside force. This is also called drift. The space shuttle and probes do this in space all the time so that they don't have to carry lots of extra fuel for forward motion.. So, until reverse thrust is applied, that section of the ship will remain in motion, same with the saucer section, only the battle bridge section was going a minute amount faster, which could, if the battle bridge had been bigger than the saucer section, caused some bumpiness when they bumped into each other, but it's not. The saucer section was intentionally designed to be bigger for this reason alone.
@@teytreet7358 velocity as in engine speed. Not momentum. He turned off the engine but didn't hit the brakes(reverse thrusters)
Riker just stands there during docking, looking at the viewscreen, making adjustments by eye. Gangsta! Tasha wanted him then and there.
Lol, yeah XD
No. She needed more data first. ;-)
And he didn't even have a beard yet!
@@celt67 I mean, why not both?
Yeah I actually hate how sexist this was - not that she was hit for him… but that they portrayed her being such a damsel “omg this is so terrifying.. he’s doing IT!! Omg he’s so hot!”
00:47 I love Picards little smile there
lol, "smile". Good catch
"It's not possible"
"No, it's necessary"
_Epic organ music_
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@@Radimunto 😂
Overly loud music which distorts the audio in all subsequent movies.
"Commander Riker this is no time for caution"
"Come on Data...... Come on Data...."
Me parallel parking.
Riker: I am qualified but I haven't done it since the Academy, and, frankly I wasn't very good at it...but if you're sure...I'll give it a whirl. Bridge crew: Ugh! We're gonna die! Picard: Ha! ha! Ha! Weee! What an adventure!
Actually Riker was known as one of the best helmsmen in the Fleet at the time.
@@SternLX As partially shown In Chain of Command
Picard isn't even in the bridge. He's not breathing on Riker's neck daring him to fail. He gave Riker a way to show himself to the crew while testing Riker's response to carrying out commands.
You forgot "Make it so!"
It's amazing how much the show changed/improved from the first season.
Yes, and you see how the relationship changes from strict command to one of trust and comraderie. Validated at the end of Nemesis and transitioning into Star Trek: Picard, it shows the evolution of Riker becoming a true captain and Picard's evolution into wisdom. I love the episode where Riker calls picard out when Soji gives that little "head tilt" and tells him he's not ready to handle a teenager.
Definitely my most watched scene from Picard. "im supposed to sit in the woods while making pizza? While you have all the fun" love the delivery
Riker and picards relationship is so strong. It’s a combination in my opinion of father and son and very close friends. The trust between those two characters is incredible
3:45 I like how there's a little bit of the TNG theme in the background.
Good catch!
at the beginning you can hear parts of the original star trek theme, after riker docs the saucer
As a first episode, this worked on so many levels. What I most enjoy is that the "protoforms" of the characters personalities are all there; Picard's austere, yet fair leadership, riker's personable confidence with the crew, Jeordi's loquacious introvertness. They didn't change _Too much_ from this point...with the exception of Data; on several instances here, he was less robitc and even hinted emotions, despite the innocent logic and brilliance. And the whole docking test....pure gold.
Yea, we all miss the 6-ft models... Perhaps if they thy to do balsa wood in 3d and not "spaceship" in 3dwe'll be happy:D
You don’t need a huge fleet of ships facing each other to have a good battle, sometimes less is more.
Well when you have no good ideas or writing or understanding of the source material and why it was so beloved this is what you vomit out.
I dont watch the new shows but that was my first thought. TNG it was just the two parts of the ship coming together was drama (most under unutilized thing in all ST). The new one it has to be a 1000 ships face off.
Not only that, it was a 1000 ‘carbon copy’ ships, why did they stop at 1000? Why not 10,000, 100,000, or even 1,000,000 Starfleet ships - it would’ve had the same amount of tension (ie zero).
@@AnthonyC90 That pretty much sums up modern Trek. Yeah, every episode wasn't necessarily a winner, but overall TNG was a master class in building narrative tension, character development, and plot. New Trek seems basically mired in disrespecting legacy characters to benefit new ones, and having a good cry in between pointless swearing because they've got nothing else.
@@finscreenname Star Trek is first and foremost a character-based drama with science fiction as a vehicle. The show relied on writing and skilled actors to create a compelling show that could easily be remade as a stage show with minimal special effects and unspectacular action sequences without losing any of its appeal. You don't need high budget spectacles as visual cues to show the audience that the stakes of a situation are dire. All you need is characters that feel like real people reacting genuinely as if they were faced with the aforementioned peril.
6:05 "I'll see ya 'round, my friend" - God, that still gives me goose bumps! Love it!
I'm not crying; YOU'RE crying!!
“So, Captain Picard, within your first week of commanding Starfleet’s flagship Galaxy Class, you order your rookie 1st Officer to perform a manual docking resulting in 37 deaths, 55 trillion Spacebucks of damage, and putting it out of commission for 2 years? Did the academy not mention that those automated systems are there to prevent precisely this, Captain?”
Join us next week for more adventures with Ensign Picard.
Imagine being involved in such great franchise for 35 years.
William T. Riker... Absolute legend.
Picard and Riker is the best damn team I've ever seen on television. And seeing them reunited one last time was the best thing i could have hoped for.
Wish there was a followup to this with O'Brien telling Riker, "Sir, all due respect, but you had no idea what the hell you were talking about back when we did that manual docking. I did it my own way and I did it right'
You have never been in the military, have you? :-)
Or Data.
@@tomelder2358 You mean like when a battleship asked the lighthouse to move out of the way?
Riker had the con and his orders were correct. O'Brien or Data could have warned had he been in error. Their concern was an officer whom they did not know on his first activity in that role. Had O'Brien or similar said that in a real situation he would be removed. It is apparent that Picard trusted him else he would also have been on the bridge. That is how the RAN worked
Riker to O'Brien: "We don't practice until we get it right. We practice until we never get it WRONG."
I will miss Picard and Ryker and of course Data. In fact I will miss all of the crew. The end of an era. Let us hope they go boldly were no one has gone before.
Id have loved to have seen them do one more film again,
@@procta2343 I wish I can see this series.
They did, into each and every one of TNG's fans' hearts.
i know people complain that its a "copy paste fleet", but it really makes sense to have a bunch of the same class as a fleet: same parts, easier manufacturing. overall its just easier for starfleet. (and also for crew to adapt between starships)
I love how this clip captures how Picard immediately establishes his authority as captain of the Enterprise while simultaneously establishing the seeds of the bond, friendship and trust that defines their professional relationship and then showcases how that bond, trust and loyalty that Picard naturally inspires is just as strong 35 years later.
Picard: Whoa! There must be a peaceful resolution to this here, fellas! Or maybe a violent one where my ship is over there!
Look how young O'Brien looks there. He was one of my favorite characters in ds9. He didn't get enough screen time in TNG.
I am so glad Jonathan Frakes still has the same iconic voice he had in TNG :)
1:56 How I was when I tried to dock manually for the first time playing Elite Dangerous years ago.
i think it would be better to pair it with the ready room scene at the end of nemesis, that scene seem to be deliberately set to contrast this first one and bring that chapter of their relationship to a close.
Especially since "Picard" isn't really Star Trek
@@yourstruly4817 As a newer fan who hasn't watched Picard yet, why is this the case?
@@heywardhollis1160 people were expecting a TNG 2.0 and were shocked when PIC wasn't TNG 2.0.
Picard is a decent series. It has soke flaws but it is every bit Trek as the rest of it. Give it a go.
"thank you for always having my back". that statement alone brought a tear to my eye. :)
Jean Luc was more of a father to Riker than his own diplomat father, Tasha felt the same way of Picard. Picard had a special quality about him being a father figure despite he didnt have kids until much later as depicted in Picard series (excluding the Inner Light episode)
The saucer joining sequence is a little silly in retrospect. He gave like 3 directions, none of which really made a difference. He pretty much just eyeballed it, and the whole thing took basically one minute.
They show-runners realised the saucer separation was so slow and ponderous that audiences would get bored - so we didn't see it much after this first episode.
Sure, blame it on the model, but Riker didn't adjust properly and the saucer section was crooked for the rest of the series.
I bet he scratched the paint too!
"Just because I didn't talk you out of this doesn't mean I'm going to let you go it alone." And right there part of the appeal of TNG and Picard - that sense of belonging, family, loyalty and friendship that transcends everything. And why it is so damned satisfying. Up there with Discovery's wonderful "we are Starfleet" moment
Captain Picard's greatest regret is that he failed to assemble a fleet in time to save romulines under threat from a supernova...
Riker shows up out of retirement with a fleet of super advanced ships he's just pulled of nowhere at the last minute...
Picard: uh.. Thanks Will... but wtf man?
Exactly.
Thats only the tip of the iceberg on how awful and mismanaged ST: Picard's writing and production is.
Goosebumps, chills, down my emontional spine. I don't know how to say it properly in English. But that moment when I heard Riker say Admiral Picard, after all these years. It felt like the kid who watched that first episode some time ago was on the same room at the same time than the man I am now.
When those in charge gets credit for doing things manually but the grunts actually do the work
It's always been that way and, apparently, always will be.
Stop whining, leg. You also could´ve signed up for OCS. ^^ (Just kidding)
Riker: I’m on the toughest, fastest-
(Bridge crew looking at each other thinking: “what the hell is he talking about?-this is supply ship.)
Riker: -Most powerful ship that Star Fleet has put into service.
😂😂😂😂😂
All those years of poker paid off. The man can bluff his closest friends: a Klingon, a supercomputer, and an empath. I'm sure he can bluff these guys.
So you have to ask yourself. Do I feel lucky. Well do you punk.
Whether it's conducting a manual docking, or going into ludicrous speed, an order is an order.
The strange thing is in the Farpoint episode it is more the actions of O"Brien and Data that completed the saucer section coupling up.
I legit started crying at the end of the second part. Such a sweet moment
"Lock up... Now."
"Sir? We're not connected yet."
"Oops, my bad. Back up and do it again."
_Rolls eyes._ "Aye, sir, backing up."
_beep beep beep_
one of my favorit edits of TNG is THIS clip by THIS channel. I watched this 30 times... Because 1) This guy is a real fan and 2.) hes not begging for donations. He just uploaded this for us... Thanks man..
Thank you!!! :)
For a shattered empire, the Romulans have got an awful lot of ships
But not enough to evacuate their home-world somehow? - Why blame your own government and 1000’s of Romulan Military Officers for failing to save millions, when you can blame ONE dithering old admiral in a foreign empire for all your problems??
The Enterprise-D has at least ten times the Orchestra Power of the original Enterprise.
This was really cool to see. Nice video
0:35 Picard to Riker "Put My Ship Back Together and Then We'll Talk!" Riker "aye Sir"
"Weapons hot, deflectors to full"
Written by a person that never watched TNG, Riker wouldn't say this
Do you speak exactly the same way you did 30 years ago? Same lingo, same cadence, same sentence structure?
I noticed the same, seems like the writers only had time to watch up to TOS before they embarked on this project
Except if it was that big of an issue Frakes would have said so and given he was respected enough to direct as well would have been listened to. Not to mention Patrick Stewart was a producer and would have overridden it. This Riker has been out of action for a number of years and lost a child. This is far from the same Riker who stood on the bridge of the Enterprise. Oh and calling for “deflectors to full” actually dates back to TOS. Stop hating on new trek just because it’s not exactly the same as the trek we grew up with. It’s not the same because the world that influences all fiction isn’t the same.
@@christopherwhiteford3263 the thing is, Trek is an established universe, it's a genre, & it already exists, a universe that's separate from ours..
to me, if you do ST, do it in the spirit it was written in, a spirit of the 80s & 90s...
but probably, writing new Trek now is just odd, sort of reminiscent of France re-instating the Royal Musketeer's in the late 19th century. if you do not want to write basically a fanfiction or fanservice type of movie, then write something else, maybe vaguely related but a veritable new thing
(I do not have any issues with Babylon 5, or other such shows being different, I have an issue with trying to re-write the old trek characters and Universe, even with DS9!)
Discovery & Picard looks like a good shows if they did not claim to be Trek.
@@christopherwhiteford3263 PS: Lower Decks (despite a very different mood/feel) is very much a ST universe set show in my opinion.
Hard to believe this was 1987....nearly FOURTY YEARS ago
Manually. Standing around giving orders, not pressing a single button. Whoever thought this was some epic badass moment at the drawing board must've been out of his mind.
Yeah, I can't imagine it even being possible to do that sort of thing manually.
I mean, most of the flying (and the rest) an A380 does is by computer.
I thought that, but also O'Brian is crapping himself because manual docking means that HE has to steer the thing back together and hope that he doesn't put the Enterprise in a dry dock for major repairs if he slips up. 😏
Manually having data do it. That's essentially automatic still
he's not looking at any displays just eyeballing the connection angle. It's manual in that he's judging the speed and angle by eye.
who would’ve know obrian would have the longest on screen career in the Star Trek universe
Not only does it manually, but does it by eye.
He's not checking any displays for pitch or yaw or distance or velocity numbers,
totally just doin' it by watching some video feed, he's the man, lol.
Data showing lots of emotion on his face. I guess they forgot to tell Brent Spiner that the android doesn't have an emotion chip yet, so chill out on the facial expressions.
I see that a lot, especially in the first season. So many facial expressions for an android. I guess one could argue that he was programmed to have those 'tics' in order to appear more human, but, it is still a little out of character knowing what he is supposed to be.
He clearly had emotions already before the chip. No way to process them or express them or understand them, but there are hundreds of times he demonstrates that he has emotions. Some of the most frequently seen are his longing to be more human, his curiosity... But he has all kinds of emotions, they're just a total puzzle to him. And he barely expresses them.
Not to mention that fact that he shouldn't look surprised when he was well aware that Riker made no mistakes
He’s promoting a brilliant young man, ahead of many others, into First Officer role of the Federation flagship.He has complete confidence in him or he wouldn’t have asked him.
A massive risk to take for a new captain. It was a way of saying “I trust you” and seeing if he really had what it took. The stress of long-range exploration and conflict will need men who absorb risk and responsibility like a sponge with no back-up from home.
And it shows Picard for what he is underneath his “boring” exterior. A very daring and self-confident man. An ice-blooded calculator, in fact, who takes massive risks when he knows a way to get to the edge of the performance envelope. And pick out the men who can get there too.
And he doesn’t even look after him when having dismissed him. He was indifferent and fully absorbed in his reading. That shows total confidence in Riker. A clever way to make sure his crew knew to respect Riker despite his meteoric career rise.
Riker continued to stay exceptionally long as the Enterprise's First Officer even after being offered his own command multiple times. I'm sure Picard appreciated having a very experienced and reliable First Officer in all the tense situations, instead of having to "break in" and get used to a new one.
Data Literally "IS" Automation.
If he's steering manually isn't that the same as letting a computer do it?
Funnily enough, Data is still at Ops... O'Brien is steering. The Ops and Helm positions seem to be reversed on the battle bridge. Typical Trek continuity problem. I wonder if they filmed the battle bridge scenes then decided to swap them for the main bridge scenes.
My thought exactly! Funny!
"You say you will be doing this with no automation, sir?"
"Yes, automated computer controlled robot. Make it so."
Will is such a character love it!
You can almost here Riker, " Go ahead, punk, make my day!" LOL 😂
Why does Data looked surprised? He should have been able to tell the entire time that Riker had made no errors.
As Marina Sirtis once said, the allegedly emotionless Data showed emotions on a regular basis.
@@daves.9479 he learned fro the best lol
Data: "No automation sir?" Riker: "As ordered... take the helm Data"
35 years later and “Captain” Riker is still undefeated.
That partial smile on Picards face was funny.
Data was curious, O'brien and Tasha were freaking out, Riker was cool and confident, Picard was sitting in his room waiting to see if Riker made the cut. Picard placed a great deal of trust in his officers, even when they seemed to go astray he was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and they always had his back even when his actions might be questionable or his reasoning off. They were a loyal and effective family that was always there for each other no matter the odds and Q help anyone that f-cked with them.
"Adieu!" The weight of 35 years in one single word.
Picard was an amazing show !!!
I wish 12 year old me could have understood how amazing this show is. But at least 37 year old me has a clue.
I watched every one of of the Enterprise, Captain Picard and as well as the original one with Captain Kirk, not forgetting Captain Janeway, Star Trek Discovery, Deep Space Nine and I love them all but my favorite always been the Enterprise.
She is special.
For an android with no emotions, Data acts very nervous in this scene. Of course many may argue that he was only mimicking the human emotion of nervousness.
Pilot growing pains.
How did they make a fleet of starships so boring?
My god, Deep Space Nine was twenty years ago and those fleets still look so much cooler.
One of the alleged scene designers said they wanted a variety of ships in this scene but money may have been a factor. He didn't actually see the final product. Allegedly
Ya just having 3 or 4 ships on each side, of different classes would have been cooler then 100s of the same thing.
Ds9 made the battles cool by having ships that actually move around and battle vs TNG where they basically stand still and shoot. I know a limitation of the tech from then. But I think that's all the new shows need to
Exactly NuTrek is just lazy and unimaginative all around.
So as a IT Product owner, I was put in a similar situation with a software release. My first initial task was to do a salesforce release and oversee every aspect of it. Very quick way to ensure you prove your abilities and worth real quick. Not in the military but I can appreciate the need to be put in the hot seat to prove a point.
1:01 I am often annoyed because I thought that Data was supposed to be an emotionless robot, however he often shows a huge amount of emotion, a lot more than Spock would. Although the emotion he most often shows is puzzlement.
It is the first episode, and they did this a lot throughout the show, when it suited the script you would have data saying I have no feeling etc. But then there's many episodes where he makes an expression like this, not a hugely emotive one, but one nonetheless.
"No automation?" asks the robot guy who's a walking supercomputer.
The genius of Brent Spiner was that he let Data show emotions many times.
Will Riker performs a manual docking a
When he first arrives on the Enterprise D from the battle bridge .
On the final mission of the Enterprise D, Riker performs an emergency saucer separation from the Main Bridge
This will need updating 😅 S3 is an absolute homecoming!
Great idea! New video is now live, a different clip from TNG, the actual first meeting where Picard ignored Riker. Thank you for the idea!
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Saucer separation was one of those ideas that should have been left on the cutting floor. Since the effects budget rarely allowed them to use separation, it meant that when they did it begged the question of why it was necessary, and when they didn't we all wondered why it wasn't tried.
I half expected Riker to grab his wireless joystick and dock her!
They should have made a loud grinding metal sound as the docking took place =D
Mm mm. That was Galaxy Quest. 🤭
Riker: "I can dock the ship manually. Hold my beer."
I would love to see Riker in command of a old ship like the USS Yorktown Excelsior class starship or the USS Hood Excelsior class starship or the USS Texas galaxy-class Starship or the USS California galaxy-class Starship
Agreed
He does command a decommissioned starship of an older class in an episode of ST TNG. It is in the 2nd season...as Dr. Crusher isn't the doctor in the episode...
its like when you're 40 with a family of your own and you visit your mom and she tells you to mow the lawn.