2:21:17 the reason they use so many guns during the spice raids is because shields attract worms and can’t be used out in the desert, they say that in the first movie
i remember in the books house atreides also gets gunned down at the start after there sheilds are sabotaged by the doc rather than a kung fu sword battle they have in the movie then again its been over ten years since i read the book
@@austin4303 The in person fighting is all melee in the books because shields could be used off the sand. The shield that Yueh sabotaged was the big one over the compound which meant that the Harkonnens could use artillery, not the personal shields used by individual combatants. The battle itself isn't described in much detail since the focus is on Paul and Jessica's escape and Leto's capture, both of which happen away from the actual battle, but we do know that the Harkonnen's won because they sent overwhelming force which wouldn't have been necessary if they were using guns against shieldless opponents. Also the Harkonnen had Sardaukar hidden among their troops and Sardaukar used almost exclusively melee weapons - they did carry pistols and sometimes dart firing weapons, but they were always backup weapons that were small and easily concealed, not main weapons.
Watching someone bring Red Memegor and the Scribes vs a person that brings 3 scraplaunchers and fires them all game on single entities was... an experience.
that nurgle v gs game was so satisfying. Seeing all the early gs juking and positioning made me feel it was 100% unwinnable for nurgle, which made their victory all the sweeter.
2:48:41 you can actually customise Dryades and other tree units, to give them Athel Loren, Drycha, or Aerlorn skin. The Drycha ones cost 50 gold more, but get frenzy. The big trees, for 50 gold, you get frenzy, vanguard deployment and +2 MA
Annoying lore person here, but Knights of the Blazing Sun worship Myrmidia, so saying they are couching their lances for Sigmar would be deeply heretical to them XD
Age-old discussion here in this channel. All its veterans know Turin is the quintessential commentator ; once he learns and uses a phrase or word (especially catch-phrases), you can't make him change it no matter how many comments he gets. It's the same with saylac's lullaby (instead of salyak), dazh's brassiere (instead of brazier) etc. We love him nonetheless!!!
And I had a TK army back in 6th edition and still fondly remember one game against Wood Elves. My opponent had Waywatchers literally in a building in some woods, and his reaction to learning everything hit them on 5s was golden
2:16:17 I’ve been out of the multiplayer loop for a while, but it’s a shame that Khorne is down in the pits with the Skaven now. For what it’s worth, I’d be really interested in seeing a “fixing [insert faction] for dom multiplayer” video! It could give some insight on what the faction’s strengths and weaknesses are, how they’re realized in a real game, and how they match up with other factions. And if Nurgle and Slaanesh are next on the buffing block for DLC, I feel like Khorne, some of the older factions like Skaven or Greenskins, or very recently buffed factions like Kislev or Cathay would be relatively safe to make those kinds of analysis videos on. They’re probably not changing significantly between releases (at least in terms of getting new units).
Another reason Nurgle held up so well against the green skins, he brought savage orcs, but since plaguebearers have magic attack and 50 weapon strength, they were able to just cut through them. It's not a true counter or anything, but a very good match up.
2:29:41 a problem is wireless is never truly stable, can't be due to how it travels, you will always lose data and especially in PVP it matters bc the games wont continue without that data, while in MMO it matters less bc a lot off calc is done client side so it can accept loss or late data. so for gaming you should use wire when possible.
Turin! inspired by the first game, I want to recommend two 40k ork books! Brutal Kunnin and Da Big Dakka by Mike Brooks. They're a delight. Ufthak Blackhawk takes on the galaxy and has fun doing it
I'm playing chaos dwarfs in tow and they are a freaking blast. Prob one of my favorite armies I ever played. Going to do a double lammus build, with two skullcrackers. Kinda my not messing around list. Also got another with 100 hobgoblin an some war machines lol
In my experience the humble goblin arrer's do more damage to plaguebearers than the orc arrers. They have more models per unit so more arrows per volley, they are more accurate, and their lack of AP doesn't matter against plaguebearers. Also a good fist of gork will crush a unit of plaguebearers.
1:30:31 would think you can't challenge with a captain, need hero or lord for it, also would think sure you can't force a challenge as the defender. but I do recall something odd with those ^^ also once your captain/lord/hero is dead it goes to logic that the rest off the attacks should go into the unit. but not sure off rules; table top had weird rules for these, like entire regiment dies bc off a failed morale vs 1 hero or something silly :P 15 years since I played so :P
Hey Turin!! V excited to paint ya up some stuff eventually!! If it’s more affordable and simpler maybe I can do you some commission hero’s and center pieces!! Shipping would certainly be cheaper. Ahha
It's not that wifi is bad, it's that THEIR wifi is bad. Mine is never over 10 ms latency. Not everyone can lay wire around their home when the internet is installed in a closet or apartment in inconvenient places.
As a gamer, I can't help but express my admiration for the game you've created. From vibrant graphics and emotionally-rich storytelling to innovative gameplay, every aspect of the game has captivated me from start to finish. The effort and passion you've poured into the project are truly commendable, and I hope you continue to deliver exceptional and memorable experiences for the gaming community
-Its SALES time ! Go and buy: a) TWW3 b) Champions of Chaos DLC c) Warriors of Chaos DLC d) Shadows of Change DLC For a total of 64 $/Euros you get 9 COMPLETED FACTIONS : 1) Cathay 2) Kislev 3) Brettonnia 4) Warriors of Chaos 5) Demons of Chaos 6) Khorne 7) Nurgle 8) Slaanesh 9) Tzeentch Totally worth it for Cmpaign/Multiplayer. Hundreds of hours of content. There are 23 factions. You DONT need them all. You won’t play/like them all.
15:38 How is that a nice (counter) cast?!? He gives them 2 seconds of increased damage before they die/fear rout, and of those 2 seconds 0 of them are at full entity value, it's a complete and utter waste of mana. Edit: Not only that but he gives it to a unit with low melee attack, further making an utter waste of it, *AND* low unit count, *FURTHER* wasting the +12 bonus VS large (which would be absolutely incredible on large model count units). It is one of the most pointless casts I have ever seen 😅😅 I'm surprised my opinion should differ so from yours
Love the comments about Orc cavalry being op. They have objectively abysmal stats. Waaagh helps them, buffs help them, they were used well. Thats it. Same people praise the Empire Grenade Launchers, and THOSE on the other hand ARE overpowered, without any additional buffs. Just in a vacuum on their own. Same with Dwarf blasting charge units. Ik campaign is not pvp, but how many players use Orcish cavalry in their campaigns? And how many ppl use Grenade launchers and Dwarf miners to cheese early (or late) game with explosives? Exactly...
I haven't seen Dwarves do well in any tournament in so long. As a Dwarf lover, I hate it haha. Dwarves and Lizardmen ( with Kroq'Gar or Mazdamundi ) But its always life slann, boring haha.
How i can remove u from my autoplay list? i watch anything other then you and you appear all time on autoplay, i dont have anything to you but i dont like listen to it when im going to sleep
turin seems to think that wifi is the sole issue of bad internet. But wifi is almost never the issue. In my experience it's more about where you live and what your provider gives you.
I really like watching your content but dam I cant stand this miss information that you repeat constantly.. being on wifi has very little to do with most peoples lag unless you have a bad connection to your access point. (this is your personal experience perhaps) you are playing P2p games the reason is ping or upload, for instance I have 40 ping to my country 250 to close America 500 to brazil. this means the computers go from talking to each other hundreds of times a second to just a few. this means it depends who i play on a p2p game as to which strategy I must use as it might play perfectly or so laggy I change how i play. since there are not real servers try placing players against opponent's via location in the world when you can which keeps them close, and understand the further away from each other the more lag. even with perfect internet this is why servers are the main way to pvp videogames not p2p...
2:21:17 the reason they use so many guns during the spice raids is because shields attract worms and can’t be used out in the desert, they say that in the first movie
i remember in the books house atreides also gets gunned down at the start after there sheilds are sabotaged by the doc rather than a kung fu sword battle they have in the movie then again its been over ten years since i read the book
@@austin4303 The in person fighting is all melee in the books because shields could be used off the sand. The shield that Yueh sabotaged was the big one over the compound which meant that the Harkonnens could use artillery, not the personal shields used by individual combatants. The battle itself isn't described in much detail since the focus is on Paul and Jessica's escape and Leto's capture, both of which happen away from the actual battle, but we do know that the Harkonnen's won because they sent overwhelming force which wouldn't have been necessary if they were using guns against shieldless opponents. Also the Harkonnen had Sardaukar hidden among their troops and Sardaukar used almost exclusively melee weapons - they did carry pistols and sometimes dart firing weapons, but they were always backup weapons that were small and easily concealed, not main weapons.
Honestly of all the amazing stuff you put out, these SFT tournaments are my favorites
Watching someone bring Red Memegor and the Scribes vs a person that brings 3 scraplaunchers and fires them all game on single entities was... an experience.
that nurgle v gs game was so satisfying. Seeing all the early gs juking and positioning made me feel it was 100% unwinnable for nurgle, which made their victory all the sweeter.
You could just 'hear' the players think during the stand-off, it was great.
2:48:41 you can actually customise Dryades and other tree units, to give them Athel Loren, Drycha, or Aerlorn skin. The Drycha ones cost 50 gold more, but get frenzy. The big trees, for 50 gold, you get frenzy, vanguard deployment and +2 MA
Annoying lore person here, but Knights of the Blazing Sun worship Myrmidia, so saying they are couching their lances for Sigmar would be deeply heretical to them XD
Age-old discussion here in this channel. All its veterans know Turin is the quintessential commentator ; once he learns and uses a phrase or word (especially catch-phrases), you can't make him change it no matter how many comments he gets. It's the same with saylac's lullaby (instead of salyak), dazh's brassiere (instead of brazier) etc. We love him nonetheless!!!
Nerd !
@@eust117the grail relique
I don't know if it would be 'deeply' heretical to them, they still respect sigmar, its not like mydmidia is the only, monoteist goddess for them
@@adamzelazko927 Fair. But they fight for Myrmidia, not Sigmar. So it would still be incorrect, even if I embellished it a little lol
1:55:11 is what everyone is looking for.
And I had a TK army back in 6th edition and still fondly remember one game against Wood Elves. My opponent had Waywatchers literally in a building in some woods, and his reaction to learning everything hit them on 5s was golden
2:16:17 I’ve been out of the multiplayer loop for a while, but it’s a shame that Khorne is down in the pits with the Skaven now. For what it’s worth, I’d be really interested in seeing a “fixing [insert faction] for dom multiplayer” video! It could give some insight on what the faction’s strengths and weaknesses are, how they’re realized in a real game, and how they match up with other factions. And if Nurgle and Slaanesh are next on the buffing block for DLC, I feel like Khorne, some of the older factions like Skaven or Greenskins, or very recently buffed factions like Kislev or Cathay would be relatively safe to make those kinds of analysis videos on. They’re probably not changing significantly between releases (at least in terms of getting new units).
Honestly a great idea.
Another reason Nurgle held up so well against the green skins, he brought savage orcs, but since plaguebearers have magic attack and 50 weapon strength, they were able to just cut through them. It's not a true counter or anything, but a very good match up.
2:29:41 a problem is wireless is never truly stable, can't be due to how it travels, you will always lose data and especially in PVP it matters bc the games wont continue without that data, while in MMO it matters less bc a lot off calc is done client side so it can accept loss or late data.
so for gaming you should use wire when possible.
There's an idea for a tournament right there - buff/debuff spells only, no direct damage allowed.
2:04:29 so many circles, can feel your willpower wayning from the need to draw a
Turin! inspired by the first game, I want to recommend two 40k ork books! Brutal Kunnin and Da Big Dakka by Mike Brooks. They're a delight. Ufthak Blackhawk takes on the galaxy and has fun doing it
@charlie6327 thanks for the edit, dude, that’s really cool of you :)
relax lmao@@Ellebeeby
@@jforozco12He's just thanking him
I'm playing chaos dwarfs in tow and they are a freaking blast. Prob one of my favorite armies I ever played. Going to do a double lammus build, with two skullcrackers. Kinda my not messing around list. Also got another with 100 hobgoblin an some war machines lol
In my experience the humble goblin arrer's do more damage to plaguebearers than the orc arrers. They have more models per unit so more arrows per volley, they are more accurate, and their lack of AP doesn't matter against plaguebearers. Also a good fist of gork will crush a unit of plaguebearers.
Love these replays, I watch them on the train traveling for work. Thanks Turin for keeping these rolling ❤
a doom diver in to nurgle can be affective, its good vs lords or soul grinders if it can stay out of range. squigs and good and defending from furies
1:30:31 would think you can't challenge with a captain, need hero or lord for it, also would think sure you can't force a challenge as the defender.
but I do recall something odd with those ^^
also once your captain/lord/hero is dead it goes to logic that the rest off the attacks should go into the unit. but not sure off rules; table top had weird rules for these, like entire regiment dies bc off a failed morale vs 1 hero or something silly :P
15 years since I played so :P
you also need base contact to challenge right? so kinda can mitigated by attacking from angles
what is the soundtrack used at the beginning of the stream?
Saurian player won our hearts
Another awesome tournament. I actually liked watching the finale battle right to the end, rather than seeing a tap out.
Coming back from work to a TW stream and video, nice!
Live Chat Replay not even an option in my RUclips app. Is that problem for anyone else?
2:35:03 the fanatic hit off dreams, damn all 4 hits perfectly :D
very low dmg considering that though ^^
2:35:03 one more strong hit, only like 10-15%
Hey Turin!! V excited to paint ya up some stuff eventually!! If it’s more affordable and simpler maybe I can do you some commission hero’s and center pieces!! Shipping would certainly be cheaper. Ahha
It's not that wifi is bad, it's that THEIR wifi is bad. Mine is never over 10 ms latency. Not everyone can lay wire around their home when the internet is installed in a closet or apartment in inconvenient places.
Music stream when?
how often do you play with viewers?
Thanks for the LB and FFA!
You bet!
Pappa N. is proud :)
Some real good games on this one.
As a gamer, I can't help but express my admiration for the game you've created. From vibrant graphics and emotionally-rich storytelling to innovative gameplay, every aspect of the game has captivated me from start to finish. The effort and passion you've poured into the project are truly commendable, and I hope you continue to deliver exceptional and memorable experiences for the gaming community
Some really good matches in this one.
Nurgle games were great, even with the lag.
GGWP fun games ^^
enjoy seeing it :D
Oh man Azhag the Dissapointerer.
Damn, High Elves be getting the shaft, idr the last time I saw someone play them well in a tourney (or at all)
I would like to order a Flying Taco please.
-Its SALES time ! Go and buy: a) TWW3
b) Champions of Chaos DLC
c) Warriors of Chaos DLC
d) Shadows of Change DLC
For a total of 64 $/Euros you get 9 COMPLETED FACTIONS : 1) Cathay 2) Kislev 3) Brettonnia 4) Warriors of Chaos 5) Demons of Chaos 6) Khorne 7) Nurgle 8) Slaanesh 9) Tzeentch
Totally worth it for Cmpaign/Multiplayer. Hundreds of hours of content.
There are 23 factions. You DONT need them all. You won’t play/like them all.
15:38 How is that a nice (counter) cast?!?
He gives them 2 seconds of increased damage before they die/fear rout, and of those 2 seconds 0 of them are at full entity value, it's a complete and utter waste of mana.
Edit: Not only that but he gives it to a unit with low melee attack, further making an utter waste of it, *AND* low unit count, *FURTHER* wasting the +12 bonus VS large (which would be absolutely incredible on large model count units).
It is one of the most pointless casts I have ever seen 😅😅 I'm surprised my opinion should differ so from yours
Love the comments about Orc cavalry being op. They have objectively abysmal stats. Waaagh helps them, buffs help them, they were used well. Thats it.
Same people praise the Empire Grenade Launchers, and THOSE on the other hand ARE overpowered, without any additional buffs. Just in a vacuum on their own. Same with Dwarf blasting charge units.
Ik campaign is not pvp, but how many players use Orcish cavalry in their campaigns? And how many ppl use Grenade launchers and Dwarf miners to cheese early (or late) game with explosives? Exactly...
Why is avenged sevefold a meme?
I haven't seen Dwarves do well in any tournament in so long. As a Dwarf lover, I hate it haha. Dwarves and Lizardmen ( with Kroq'Gar or Mazdamundi ) But its always life slann, boring haha.
How i can remove u from my autoplay list? i watch anything other then you and you appear all time on autoplay, i dont have anything to you but i dont like listen to it when im going to sleep
Dude no idea....
@@turinRTS :_:
turin seems to think that wifi is the sole issue of bad internet. But wifi is almost never the issue. In my experience it's more about where you live and what your provider gives you.
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how is this fun
Commenting on RUclips videos?
I really like watching your content but dam I cant stand this miss information that you repeat constantly.. being on wifi has very little to do with most peoples lag unless you have a bad connection to your access point. (this is your personal experience perhaps) you are playing P2p games the reason is ping or upload, for instance I have 40 ping to my country 250 to close America 500 to brazil. this means the computers go from talking to each other hundreds of times a second to just a few. this means it depends who i play on a p2p game as to which strategy I must use as it might play perfectly or so laggy I change how i play. since there are not real servers try placing players against opponent's via location in the world when you can which keeps them close, and understand the further away from each other the more lag. even with perfect internet this is why servers are the main way to pvp videogames not p2p...
Eyyyy