It's all about high ratio gearing. In India we have tight budgets for trucks so manufacturs try to keep the cost down. Even in trucks rated for 50ton they use 6.7l engine. Few years ago they were using 5.9l engine on those trucks. Most of the budget goes into making the lader frame , axels and suspension hold upto the load. And manufactures know if the payload is rated for 50ton oparators would load 70-100tons 😂. The gearing on those trucks are crazy low. Top speed is like 80 & they go down the highway fully loaded at 40-60.
@@Дмитрий-ъ6з6в goto tatamotors website, ashoke leyland website, bharatbenz website, eicher website and u will see the specifications of the trucks if u browse the products. 50ton 60ton models rarely get more than 9l engine. Trucks are made in a budget and replaced every 15yrs.
people said that these super over loaded trucks are operating not on public roads, they are rolling on the mining site, digging site , to a train station, to a large drop off site, to a land fill site ECT, they said in despite of staggering weight of they carry, those truck could last quite a few years, amazing.
I have been inside FAW tanker once with full load. It was super powerful, It is oddly powerful because anything on the truck will give in earlier than the Engine.
What amazing trucks Congratulations to china Now every monster truck cannot sleep well because here come the real monster truck Nice background song What song titles Even those I'm not understand I love to watch this video plus nice song
i hate to say this cause i'm a japanese truck and U.S truck fanatic but as i have experienced chinese trucks nowadays are way better than any other trucks in terms of maintenance cost,spareparts availability ,performance and reliability.
Well, when your weighbridge supplier is not able to supply a product to stand up to the work! Mind you, the impression that I am getting is that you build a big enough weighbridge, we will blank it out! That was one good thing about the mechaincal weighbridges - you could always extend their range, if you knew what you were doing!!! The beam type were always easier to extend over the dials. I remember seeing a 60 tonne beam weighbridge weighing 120 tonne, once... it was smart how they done it!
Imagine trying to stick a shovel in the tarmac platforms where this trucks passed trough :))) Also wondering how many wheel bearings and spring leafs they change over a year on this trucks .
At.(2:15).Instead of one tight 'reverse'(causes twisting)there need to make three,for giving relief to the parts of the truck like, tyres,rims,trunion and leaf suspensions.Good will for truckers brothers.
For some reason scales seems to show douple real weight. Coal seems to weight twice as much as here and sand only 1/3 as much as here. Very light sand and heavy coal. Some of those are 60 tons trucks but still wieghts are off
Никак не могу понять, почему они гоняют эти грузовики полупустыми?? Тонаж показывает 200-230 тон.. Это очень мало, надо борта нарастить, загрузить хотябы по 500 тонн....
Do not reference American trucks with these trucks. The US Gov sets the specs for trucks operating in the US. Our trucks are so poorly made they would not stand up to the specs on the trucks in the Asian and South American countries. Most of the trucks outside of America are designed to be repaired on the side of the road. What's interesting is in the past US truck manufactures produced trucks for S. America. Those same trucks were not allowed to travel on US roads.
We using many Chinese truck here for Hauling limestone for many years ,6x4 Faw truck loading 55 tones nett for long Hauling with bad road from quarry to cement plant
Diindonesia ada perusahaan angkutan yang sebelumnya memakai mobil buatan eropa. Sekarang menggantinya dengan mobil tiongkok FAW. Sekali membeli 600 unit
i noticed Chinese trucks don't use engine brakes they opted for water injected over the brakes is there a reason for that,and i see so many failures associated with these trucks it's catastrophic failures we are taking here,like frames and axles snapping in half, destroyed suspension components like springs not to mention gear failures'
That "water drop over the brakes" trick are dated back from 1930's freedom fighters in Burma Road 😵💫 Anyways hydraulic retarder are norm in modern mid/high end long distance chinese trucks.
Эти самосвалы созданы для работы в карьерах на больших стройки. Для города из-за большого веса он больше нанесёт вреда чем пользы. А для южных регионов с жарким климатом в обше не пригоден опять из-за большого веса будет только дороги разбивать.
I try to imagine what a policeman in Germany would say about this 4 axel vechical with 140 Tones fright , it loks like every of this axels have 40Tones fright most likelay it be 32 Tones each axel .
You can drop the price per cbm in a single trip. More buyers tend to go to lower prices. Its also a corporate thing. Same driver rate but bigger loads. Also, truck and trailer driver has a different rate than a rigid truck driver.
2~4 tons water, depends on idle space of chassis. for some trucks in this video such as 2:20, you will find cubical box between cab and dumper bucket, they are also water tank. brake drum, tyres, and wheel side reducer are all need water cooling under this load
Increíble ver tal carga en esos camiones tan pequeños, solo cuatro ejes de carga? Y tanta carga de mineral que llevan! En México, vemos lo que llamamos tráiler son camiones o tractocamion tirando de dos remolques y cada remolque lleva 5 ejes cómo máximo y aún así no superan las ochenta toneladas porque física y estructuralmente en camión de dobla, se vence y en cuestas arriba el vehículo simplemente no supera la pendiente porque el motor no tendría el torque necesario o el tren motriz comienza a patinar y se queda sin tracción. Qué vitaminas le ponen a esos camiones? Porqué los ejes no se parten en dos? O porqué las llantas o rines no revientan? O porqué tanto peso en tan poco espacio? Qué combustible utilizan esos camiones? Saludos
tires are all chinese brand, “chaoyang” and “zhengxin” are famous brand among them. size 12.00, air pressure is high, up to 14~15 bar. surely it’s more frequent to pop than standard load
@@johndowe7003 This is not surprising. But do they still profit when they take into account damage and (however minimal) maintenance costs...as well as any of the load they might lose along the way.
Let us all spare a moment for the 'americans' who are the only people who don't have a clue what the weights and dimensions quoted in this vide actually mean . . .
This is insane then the roads they use unbelievable that the weight is so out rages the lightest load I’ve seen is 96 tons I think the heaviest load I’ve carried was around 18 tons and if I got caught with that load I would of been put in jail here n California.
Kenworth, Peterbilt, International, Mack, etc. Nunca han sido los camiones más poderosos. Los más poderosos y más avanzados solían ser MAN, Mercedes, Volvo y Scania, hasta que llegaron los chinos. Se dieron a conocer los camiones chinos, y los otros parecen de juguete.
宏昌天马 is famous manufacturer of dumper bucket. almost all famous dumper truck manufacturers are in this video😄 FAW, Dongfeng, Foton, Sinotruk, SHACMAN, Hongyan, Balong
@@truckfan26163 Thank You for information😁 東風汽車集団dongfeng'sKC ，KL has the same cab design and interior as Ｑｕｏｎ made by UDtrucks in Japan. ls it anOEM relationship??
Это не расценки, это Государственные Транспортные компании. У них совсем другие допуски по дорогам, и к машинам отношение другое. Заработная плата там выше чем в России
Добрый день . А колесные диски как выдерживают ? А ступичные шпильки ? А резину как накачать до 15.5 бар она же взорвется . А рессоры ? Или специальные рессоры ? А рама ? Сцепление тоже специальное усиленное? А двигатель там 800 лошадей ?
@@АйратГалиуллин-у5ц за прикол, в совке было экспортное всё лучшее, а в Китае на экспорт говно из фальши, и поэтому совок крякнул, а они развиваются, отлично ты подметил
That red truck reversed on that hill like it's nothing. Crazy power!
It's all about high ratio gearing. In India we have tight budgets for trucks so manufacturs try to keep the cost down. Even in trucks rated for 50ton they use 6.7l engine. Few years ago they were using 5.9l engine on those trucks.
Most of the budget goes into making the lader frame , axels and suspension hold upto the load. And manufactures know if the payload is rated for 50ton oparators would load 70-100tons 😂. The gearing on those trucks are crazy low. Top speed is like 80 & they go down the highway fully loaded at 40-60.
@@KuntalGhosh откуда такая информация,верится с трудом.
@@Дмитрий-ъ6з6в goto tatamotors website, ashoke leyland website, bharatbenz website, eicher website and u will see the specifications of the trucks if u browse the products.
50ton 60ton models rarely get more than 9l engine. Trucks are made in a budget and replaced every 15yrs.
Still nothing than those Chinese truck, its whole ideas are on diferent level@@KuntalGhosh
people said that these super over loaded trucks are operating not on public roads, they are rolling on the mining site, digging site , to a train station, to a large drop off site, to a land fill site ECT,
they said in despite of staggering weight of they carry, those truck could last quite a few years, amazing.
👍👍
I love the lights on the front for decoration
In Australia, that would be a Kenworth C510 with Super Triples or Quads. But the damn?! 8X4 Rigid? That's insane.
yes me too
But those overloaded trucks are asking for breakdowns.
They are truck ABUSER
@@TransAmDrifter u88
You believe in big liars.?
We love Chinese trucks in Jamaica 🇯🇲 we want more like this
These are insane,always overload put you in risk and the truck cannot use longer
It is my dream to having one of this beautiful trucks one day
They are Sale online 10-17000€
Вот это да, столько тонн и выдерживают! Молодцы
Настоящее китайское качество!
Подшипникам не долго жить .
Выдержит или нет, это лотерея.
Полно видео лопнувших рам и развалившихся осей.
No more weird music plz. We wanna hear the machines!
No i like the music
Shut up dude, music is sicc, turn it off if you don’t like it
Oh you mean the "Roaring engine"?😄
Yes i agree
Crappy music...re upload one without music😢
36 t per axle or 17 tons on each front wheel, that's just over the top what a axle or tire can handle, unless it's hard forklift tires
I have been inside FAW tanker once with full load. It was super powerful, It is oddly powerful because anything on the truck will give in earlier than the Engine.
In my country, Indonesia, there is a Kenworth truck that pays like that, but in the form of an articulated truck, and has a special route.
What amazing trucks
Congratulations to china
Now every monster truck cannot sleep well because here come the real monster truck
Nice background song
What song titles
Even those I'm not understand
I love to watch this video plus nice song
thank you
song: ruclips.net/video/e0IY_1FIXRY/видео.htmlsi=R1wpfnQa_6stUWvA
They are brave, that is insane weight
Crazy Overloading
Lkjhhok. ,
Pretty amazing these machines work with these loads though.
i hate to say this cause i'm a japanese truck and U.S truck fanatic but as i have experienced chinese trucks nowadays are way better than any other trucks in terms of maintenance cost,spareparts availability ,performance and reliability.
Brilliant truck drivers and brilliant video
Поглядев этот ролик с Китайскими грузовиками , выражение : Не гони порожняк, заиграло новыми красками!
Охлаждение водой 👍,Китай сила.
3:49
Это что-то нереальное, кузов будет не поднять, да и резина столько не выдерживает, на одно колесо 12тонн...
ну может великая китайская техника с этим справляется, резина у них вроде хорошая, не?
если не гонять по ямам и стыкам мостов - резина вечная, до проволоки стирается
Ну там же накачано 15,5 атмосфер не как у нас 8 атмосфер
Well, when your weighbridge supplier is not able to supply a product to stand up to the work! Mind you, the impression that I am getting is that you build a big enough weighbridge, we will blank it out! That was one good thing about the mechaincal weighbridges - you could always extend their range, if you knew what you were doing!!! The beam type were always easier to extend over the dials. I remember seeing a 60 tonne beam weighbridge weighing 120 tonne, once... it was smart how they done it!
Imagine trying to stick a shovel in the tarmac platforms where this trucks passed trough :)))
Also wondering how many wheel bearings and spring leafs they change over a year on this trucks .
I think they just replace the whole truck after a year.
No way it doesn't fall apart.
You can add up 1 more driven axle.. and carry like 100 ton more
Totally crazy overloads 😬
Во дают полное отсутствие инстинкта самосохранения😀
Чем тормозить с такой массой
Hello my friend writing with great pleasure,
My pleasure here too, hello there
@@jamesjosephdiamond9771 Hello my friend writing with great pleasure🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔
Добрый день. А какие расценки на перевозку? Чтоб грузить по 140 тонн
Только один 95 тонн взял, видать весы на дороге стоят)
Ха ха ха
Написано же было - не хватило высоты кузова
Brilliant video thank u 😍👀👀👀👀👀👀😀😀😀😀😀😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Молодцы Китай строят и развиваются не жалее средств и людей.
Nice truck
Thank you
Nice , Hello there
как у них резина то выдерживает )))
а кто тебе показал что она выдерживает?
это ппц) мы по 50т возили , и то ремонт дороже потом обходился. а тут по 80-100)
до 200 возят, видео в Ютубе есть
Вот если бы мы делали грузовики из "специальной" стали, мы бы тоже столько возить могли.
Да мы больше 40 т уже начинается колёсы плакать, как так можео ? Еще в горы везут это пипец.
Скорей всего это реклама грузовиков .ведь он стоит не капкейки ,с таким грузом на один рейс , и в утиль .
@@Saga-k4l Государственные компании, они только так и эксплуатирует. Как при Союзе были АТП такие же конторы там
At.(2:15).Instead of one tight 'reverse'(causes twisting)there need to make three,for giving relief to the parts of the truck like, tyres,rims,trunion and leaf suspensions.Good will for truckers brothers.
yes agree with you
@@truckfan26163 thanks
awesome videos 👍👍
For some reason scales seems to show douple real weight. Coal seems to weight twice as much as here and sand only 1/3 as much as here. Very light sand and heavy coal. Some of those are 60 tons trucks but still wieghts are off
1 tones per priz
Из чего у них сделаны рамы и колеса??? Они точно в контакте с инопланетной рассой им доступны технологии сплавов инных миров)))
Нет то что делается на внутренний рынок другого качества, а всё остальное уже туда сюда
@@СергейМясников-б4зso for export, they provide lower quality truck?
Охлаждение тормозов водой это супер.
В советское время еще наши запатентовали.
@@dark_master_Makei откуда инфа?
@@dark_master_Makei где патент посмотреть можно?
@@user-be8lt7ub4k патент 1344649,патент 1289717.Первый для барабанов,а второй для дисков.
@@dark_master_Makei это внутренние ссср 😆. К международным никакого отношения не имеет
strong tracks😵
Siete proprio in gamba bravi bravi
Никак не могу понять, почему они гоняют эти грузовики полупустыми?? Тонаж показывает 200-230 тон.. Это очень мало, надо борта нарастить, загрузить хотябы по 500 тонн....
но ты же коммунист, Ляо, и пулемёт снова застрочил, в том смысле что стали грузить по 1000 тонн
И не говорите, мы борта сразу после покупки наращиваем, и прицеп пятиосный на 450 тонн. И того по 950 тонн ходим💪
نحن السائقين الشاحنات من نقود العمالقة ❤❤❤❤❤
i cant understand that song but its sounds great
thank you song chinese name 别劝我大度
Yes great song 👍
😮😮😮 mantap muatanya salam dari indonesia
Wow, felicitaciones. Es de admirar, que los materiales, aceros y demás con que fueron fabricados estos vehículos son de excelente calidad.
yes Trucks in Asian countries need to meet overload to make more money. So you need a stronger truck
What is the engine and is the transmission size and the gear ratio.
Wish i have the black one someday
Nice trucks🚚🚛🚚🚛🚚🚛
To tell you a joke,the weight limit of the orange truck at 2:39 is 31 tons.
Get er done lads ✊
Do not reference American trucks with these trucks. The US Gov sets the specs for trucks operating in the US. Our trucks are so poorly made they would not stand up to the specs on the trucks in the Asian and South American countries. Most of the trucks outside of America are designed to be repaired on the side of the road. What's interesting is in the past US truck manufactures produced trucks for S. America. Those same trucks were not allowed to travel on US roads.
Trucks in Asian countries need to meet overload to make more money. So you need a stronger truck
We using many Chinese truck here for Hauling limestone for many years ,6x4 Faw truck loading 55 tones nett for long Hauling with bad road from quarry to cement plant
Crazy, that trucks after one year are destroy!
No
Can survive for many year,in my town Faw Truck DB 300 series 2008 is still working for right now and pulling 65 Tonnes Bulk cement trailer in road
They really need railways here.
Diindonesia ada perusahaan angkutan yang sebelumnya memakai mobil buatan eropa. Sekarang menggantinya dengan mobil tiongkok FAW. Sekali membeli 600 unit
Công nhận xe bên trung khỏe thật máy bác tài chở khủng thật sự
В дурдоме валенки е бут....
Почитал отзывы...
Ваш,единственный толковвй. Грубовато,но верно.
Мощь!!!!! Уважуха мужикам!!!
50 cent army: STONKS 📈📈📈📈
После этого кто-то скажет что китайская техника плохого качества? Покажите мне блин в таком исполнении Вольво, Скания, МАН и тд.
Well I've seen a couple of iveco lol
Dàn lốp nó ngon chịu tải ghê thật
Nice look
С таким весом,только по рельсам ездить!
In USA the Marble stones would had to be transport in small chunks
Crazy
for some use, we need to keep the marble stone as one piece, not separate them
Increible
i noticed Chinese trucks don't use engine brakes they opted for water injected over the brakes is there a reason for that,and i see so many failures associated with these trucks it's catastrophic failures we are taking here,like frames and axles snapping in half, destroyed suspension components like springs not to mention gear failures'
That "water drop over the brakes" trick are dated back from 1930's freedom fighters in Burma Road 😵💫 Anyways hydraulic retarder are norm in modern mid/high end long distance chinese trucks.
Con cuantos cv cuenta ese camión para arrastrar esa carga
Эти самосвалы созданы для работы в карьерах на больших стройки. Для города из-за большого веса он больше нанесёт вреда чем пользы. А для южных регионов с жарким климатом в обше не пригоден опять из-за большого веса будет только дороги разбивать.
最佩服云贵川百吨王司机
I try to imagine what a policeman in Germany would say about this 4 axel vechical with 140 Tones fright , it loks like every of this axels have 40Tones fright most likelay it be 32 Tones each axel .
Caprinocultura Paraíba Brasil 🇧🇷
That can´t be legal... the wight per axle is way too much... how long does these trucks last? 1 year? This is just stupid...
exactly !! but china truck pieces have very low cost
just bribe the police
@@memetsolder yep they make more money overloaded, they pay the fine/bribe and still come out on top
There is no low in China for the max weight of truck?
интересно дагестанские видели это видео особено зерновозы))
Anyone know what the purpose is of these types of extreme loads? Reduce the amount of drivers, shorter trucks, etc?
You can drop the price per cbm in a single trip. More buyers tend to go to lower prices. Its also a corporate thing. Same driver rate but bigger loads. Also, truck and trailer driver has a different rate than a rigid truck driver.
@@kimpatz2189 Thanks for the reply, that makes sense.
for money, and reduce costs ... reduce drivers salary... (china safety system laws)
No cooperation with every driver.. after all, company will be richer and driver loose money due to repair and upgrading equipment.
Life is cheap in this country. Not a chance those trucks are safe with 4 axles of braking
Crazy truck man 🤣 🤣 😅 🤣
Как ваще можно так ездить? Ведь центр груза хер знает где...🙄
How big are this water tanks?
2~4 tons water, depends on idle space of chassis.
for some trucks in this video such as 2:20, you will find cubical box between cab and dumper bucket, they are also water tank.
brake drum, tyres, and wheel side reducer are all need water cooling under this load
Ist ok water for brake ?no problem ?
@@user-nr8jt4jy4u, yes for trucks, they don't have disc brakes.
Big
How far do these trucks travel with these monster loads?
no more than 300-400km
Да реально у нас в Кыргызстане тоже были 70 тогн
Increíble ver tal carga en esos camiones tan pequeños, solo cuatro ejes de carga? Y tanta carga de mineral que llevan! En México, vemos lo que llamamos tráiler son camiones o tractocamion tirando de dos remolques y cada remolque lleva 5 ejes cómo máximo y aún así no superan las ochenta toneladas porque física y estructuralmente en camión de dobla, se vence y en cuestas arriba el vehículo simplemente no supera la pendiente porque el motor no tendría el torque necesario o el tren motriz comienza a patinar y se queda sin tracción. Qué vitaminas le ponen a esos camiones? Porqué los ejes no se parten en dos? O porqué las llantas o rines no revientan? O porqué tanto peso en tan poco espacio? Qué combustible utilizan esos camiones? Saludos
please watch following videos:
semi trailer: ruclips.net/video/MF85rI9oyeM/видео.html
6*4: ruclips.net/video/PMMUSYg92FQ/видео.html
4*2: ruclips.net/video/oalQZYsGbag/видео.html
please answer, what size tire do you use? what brand is the tire, why doesn't it pop?? This is much crazier than in Indonesia
tires are all chinese brand, “chaoyang” and “zhengxin” are famous brand among them. size 12.00, air pressure is high, up to 14~15 bar. surely it’s more frequent to pop than standard load
@@truckfan26163 12.00 R20??
yes
Chinese truck are built different they are very powerful and luxury truck
Is there an actual weight/axle limit. Can't imagine it is good for the trucks.
yes but no, they get fined for being overweight but they just bribe the cops and get away with it, its cheaper to bribe cops than to run smaller loads
@@johndowe7003 This is not surprising. But do they still profit when they take into account damage and (however minimal) maintenance costs...as well as any of the load they might lose along the way.
@@tom201090 they change out trucks every 3 or five years. I had more information but I can't find it :(
Let us all spare a moment for the 'americans' who are the only people who don't have a clue what the weights and dimensions quoted in this vide actually mean . . .
On flat road with no traffic its amazing. But on public road it would be too much... why such risk
А я думал на шакмане перегруз вожу 😀
Мне кажется там и с дорогами все в порядке,не тают под колесами
@@ВасилийИванов-ш5т нет
Hello my friend writing with great pleasure🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔
@@alizahraelbldozeir5539 салам брат мой ,я не понял что ты написал
@@ВасилийИванов-ш5т а с тормозами?
สุดยอดรถจีน🇨🇳👍
Good vidio my friend..
hello 👋
Where are you from
@@aqg1275 Indonesia 😀
Что только не сделаешь, когда нет мозга, но есть жадность.
How much does the iveco cost
about 500,000 Chinese yuan ≈ 77,000 dollar
Crazy trucks
You king king of kings
👍👍👍
Não é possível!! 128 toneladas no bitruck!? Mano do céu! O china é maluco!!
watch my other videos
@Hurt each other Macon can you send me the link?
@Hurt each other Macon holy shiy
@Hurt each other Macon shit*
@@IMObyMark you can watch this video: ruclips.net/video/MF85rI9oyeM/видео.html
i wonder how profitable is for them destroying their truck from this misuse and having to buy a new one every 3 years..
At 0:50 it states 31,000kg, is that the design loadweight?
Again at 2:40 31,000kg, but weighing 146.7 tons.
What does the 31,000kg refer to?
31000kg is regulation limited weight of a 8*4 truck
this video is compilation of 8*4 trucks, so they have the same limit gross weight 31,000 Kg
Aosio
Osokk
Slsod
@@truckfan26163 oskkxkokox
This is insane then the roads they use unbelievable that the weight is so out rages the lightest load I’ve seen is 96 tons I think the heaviest load I’ve carried was around 18 tons and if I got caught with that load I would of been put in jail here n California.
Kenworth, Peterbilt, International, Mack, etc. Nunca han sido los camiones más poderosos.
Los más poderosos y más avanzados solían ser MAN, Mercedes, Volvo y Scania, hasta que llegaron los chinos.
Se dieron a conocer los camiones chinos, y los otros parecen de juguete.
which manufacturer isfamous for dump trucks in China?
after all 宏昌天馬 is famous？？
一汽j６p is very cool!!
宏昌天马 is famous manufacturer of dumper bucket.
almost all famous dumper truck manufacturers are in this video😄 FAW, Dongfeng, Foton, Sinotruk, SHACMAN, Hongyan, Balong
@@truckfan26163 Thank You for information😁
東風汽車集団dongfeng'sKC ，KL has the same cab design and interior as Ｑｕｏｎ made by UDtrucks in Japan. ls it anOEM relationship??
@小泉賢祐 some technology of dongfeng trucks are developed from cooperate with UD, they are authorized by UD
@@truckfan26163 i see!! you had a technical tie-up! thank you👍😁
У нас расценок нет...я представляю ихние гроши если по столько наваливают...
Это не расценки, это Государственные Транспортные компании. У них совсем другие допуски по дорогам, и к машинам отношение другое. Заработная плата там выше чем в России
Добрый день . А колесные диски как выдерживают ? А ступичные шпильки ? А резину как накачать до 15.5 бар она же взорвется . А рессоры ? Или специальные рессоры ? А рама ? Сцепление тоже специальное усиленное? А двигатель там 800 лошадей ?
Мне кажется они для своего рынка совсем другие машины делает по прочности
Лучше 10 раз по разу, чем один раз- десять раз...
@@АйратГалиуллин-у5ц за прикол, в совке было экспортное всё лучшее, а в Китае на экспорт говно из фальши, и поэтому совок крякнул, а они развиваются, отлично ты подметил
Приветствую! У них наверное такой принцип сезон отработал, грузовик на металл. На следуйщий сезон новый купят.