@@haristareen12 What have they been wrong about for the last 3 years you mean? Lots! No accountability. If the niners turn this season around (because it’s not over) it will be crickets. Bunch of dudes rooting for the niners to fail and then talk smack about it. Lame!
I think it’s a lot of money politics on this team when it comes down to playing the best players. It’s something deeper to this issue, and winning don’t seem to be a priority
@@amd1273no he’s getting payed to much for the production he’s putting out we can save some cap space to invest in a good o line w Brock as qb w good protection we can go a long way
Niners have no choice but to punt. Niners need to play their younger players. Get McCaffrey off the field and put Mason/Guerrendo in. Get Juice off the field and put Guerrendo at FB. Get Campbell off the field and put some youngster in. Take Brendel out and play a younger OL. Next season, Niners need a new DC, ST teams coach, OC and assistant HC.
@@FrankWebber-n4bGuerrendo could most likely play FB. He us a big back. He is 10-15 lbs away from an ideal fullback. Deebo is a WR but that doesnt stop Kyle from using him as a RB. Since we got 3 RB now we could play one at FB especially since Juice is in decline with a bloated contract. Most teams don't even use a FB. That's one of the main reason Juice keeps making the Probowl
@FrankWebber-n4b He can learn to block. Guerrendo is a big back that has potential. It's not like Juice does a great job of blocking anyways. Again, most teams aren't even using a FB on their offense. Brayden Willis plays TE and he is a horrible blocker. Put Guerrendo at FB and see how he does. This season is almost lost and Juice is on the decline. If Guerrendo can't play then no big deal but if he can then Niners found their FB of the future. Also, Harbaugh converted Bruce Miller from LB to FB and he was a very good FB for the Niners except he had off the field issues at the end.
COACH, Im riding with you for honest team breakdown. I respect your opinion. I don’t like the click bait views narrative where every post every player is the problem. Every fan wants to trade the whole team. There’s a difference between loyal fans and fair weather. WE NEED TO TRADE THE FAIR WEATHER!!. O-line is garbage, D-fence is garbage, coaching is suspect. Play Ball 🏈!!!
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Even if kyle didn't play Mason for the past 3 years just to be stubborn, his out can be "well, Mason has matured and I now feel like he's ready to share carries."
Niners should trade away Bosa, Deebo, and CMC for whatever they can get. They should even consider just cutting them, especially Deebo. Yes, they’d be paying to not have guys on the team; keeping dead weight around takes up a roster spot which the Niners need just as much.
Trade Purdy, Bosa, Kittle and Kyle. This team might take 4 or 5 seasons to turn around. Trade them while they still have value and maybe they can win somewhere else.
@@jackied962 I would agree if there were a fundamental lack of talent on the team. These aren’t the Titans. As crazy as it sounds the Niners could still win the NFC West if they just used the talent that’s on the roster now. They need to manage the game and use all of their talent. Get away from the terrible Wide 9. The only barrier to these things happening is Kyle’s stubbornness and ego.
Brock Purdy made so much money last week. Saying that Purdy isn’t worth a contract is stupid. Idk if he is worth $60k, but he is gonna get paid and he deserves it!
Baker over Brock, 30M for Brock, damn people forget real quick what Brock’s done after one missed game. Can’t rewrite history, the guy took us to the NFC Championship and the SB, while balling out a lot of the time. SZN hasn’t been perfect for him but he’s been carrying the team on a lot of games including some losses.
Man ya'll need to stop. No one has forgotten. The issue is that $60M is a lot for ANY player. Just ask the Cowboys with Dak. Everyone acknowledges what Brock has done and thats he is a good QB but the price is too high. Baker is also a good QB who won a Heisman for a reason. Brock is more accurate, has better timing, and processes better than Baker. But Baker has a far stronger arm and hasn't had the same level of weapons. Both are good QBs.
And to add to your point the first nfc championship he took us his rookie year without playing all those games. He played like 6 games then won 2 playoff games. They are haters
I’m a big Purdy fan. HUGE. But the boys have a point. In the NFL, you’re paid for expected future performance over past excellence. And even though I think the drop in Brocks performance is due in large part to Kyle‘s game calling and personnel management (doesn’t value o-line e.g.) his numbers have taken a hit this year. And that second throwing arm injury in as many years doesn’t help.
Middlekauff is trying to do a "softball" critique of Kyle now! I sent in a mailbag question and I am curious if he is going to read it. Basically I listed out "Kyle's multiple superbowl choke jobs, getting owned by Flores, Spags & Schwartz" yet the bay area media (outside of Grant) praise him like he is Bill Walsh 2.0 rattling off SB wins!
And the switch up on Brock is CRAZY my guys. You guys already know how hard it is to find a good QB and we got a real good one in the hardest of the hardest of ways that saved even all your podcasting careers. Straighten that back up y’all LACKIN FOR REALS. SHOW SOME RESPECT
We like Brock, he's a nifty QB .... but he's too compact and frail to be a franchise QB in the NFL. And with the small size comes lack of arm strength. (how many attempted passes get batted down?) Allen is the quintessential QB in todays game. Big body, tough, mobile, accurate, strong arm.
@@freeLA_saint another casual who’s never played a sport and it shows. Your quintessential tall/gritty/ QB Josh Allen was 2nd in the league in 2022 in batted passes when Brock was still 3rd string. Before his MVP calibur season he was an INT throwing machine. Lmao. They said the same about Drew Brees’ height and heart and he’s arguably in the top 5 of QB’s to ever play the game. Russell Wilson? Well he’s starting again in Pittsburgh. Winning and he didn’t grow an inch. Lol Size matters to a certain extent, but you can never measure the unmeasurable’s players like Brock brings to this team. The unmeasurable’s in Fred’s leadership. You just have to know when you see it, and for some of us, we can definitely see it. Because we’ve played with players like this before. Nifty? Lol Some of you guys are so brainwashed by the lamestream sports media it’s really starting to show bc you sound just like an echo chamber in mainstream sports.
Forget this season. It's OVER!!!!!! get higher draft picks. Trade down get as many picks as possible. This team needs to rebuild the trenches. Both sides of the ball. The linebacker core. Needs depth.
C'mon guys! THE #1 guy to Trade first is undoubtedly ................... KYLE SHANAHAN! You strategically trade him to a team that will give him player personnel control. Then you trade/unload Jucz, Bosa, Deebo, Brendel, etc. to that team. Niners get a boatload of draft picks and cheaper, younger players.
Purdy never overthrows his receivers.. He can only underthrow... Weak arm is killing this team.. Putting all his weapons in harms way.. Darnold was the answer.. Minnesota figured it out..
The takes are bit much but I think it’s a realistic take. He’s a top 5 rusher and last year was a top 5 passer. I still believe if he, with the help of Kyle, Purdy can become top 10 and is capable of winning a superbowl. However, I know Kyle will never change on this team until he leaves which is unfortunate.
I understand what you’re saying, but it’s only part of the story. What you’ve done in the past (as a player) is what gets you to the negotiating table. The price that is negotiated however, is always based on your expected future performance. No exceptions.
@@briansmith5293 Huh? He's right though. Teams pay big money because they believe in a player's potential and said player has performed well to earn it. You're also right but that's one aspect of it.
It is the arrogant/ choker not head coach material who is responsible for this mess . He has wasted great talent on this team by not even winning one SB .
1 game behind the division & it’s over? Bunch of bandwagon fans. Grant stans got what you wanted & everyone pilling on. If Brock is back he do great. This division very winnable AZ not taking this division. December football is playoff football. You are hating fools he was top 5 passing yds without his WRs or CMC. Baker over Purdy lol 😂
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This show, the Cohn zohn, and grants post game streams are always top 3 content
Id rather watch this show than any other. Just sayin. Thank you gentlemen.
I agree, though I do like Tom’s technical insight. These are the guys I appreciate most.
I've been asking for a Nick Bosa trade for 2 seasons. Kyle and John must learn how to sell high before players lose all value.
Madness look at 38 pts vs GB see Bosa impact you want that 😂
@edwardbrito4010 You have a short term mindset. That's great for fans... A terrible mindset for coaches and GM's.
Cabo is coming early this year.
Bada-bing! 😂
This show is the best because its just 4 friends talking shit 😅
Except when they are wrong they just pretend like none of the 💩 talking happened
@@Showtime-jb3is what have they been wrong about this season? Seems like they've listed flaws throughout the entire season that deemed to be true
@@haristareen12 What have they been wrong about for the last 3 years you mean? Lots! No accountability. If the niners turn this season around (because it’s not over) it will be crickets. Bunch of dudes rooting for the niners to fail and then talk smack about it. Lame!
I agree ! Guys just talking 9ers
HAHA! Grant didn't know piccolo! He does know! SPECIAL BEAM CANNON killed me! Best episode yet!
I think it’s a lot of money politics on this team when it comes down to playing the best players. It’s something deeper to this issue, and winning don’t seem to be a priority
I agree with Coach. We all had our doubts about Sorensen.
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Trade Bosa dude stays hurt
Idiot, hes the best player on the team. Plus he hasn't been injured since 2020 prior to this injury
@@amd1273no he’s getting payed to much for the production he’s putting out we can save some cap space to invest in a good o line w Brock as qb w good protection we can go a long way
Niners have no choice but to punt. Niners need to play their younger players. Get McCaffrey off the field and put Mason/Guerrendo in. Get Juice off the field and put Guerrendo at FB. Get Campbell off the field and put some youngster in. Take Brendel out and play a younger OL.
Next season, Niners need a new DC, ST teams coach, OC and assistant HC.
BINGO!!!!!
Unfortunately Frisco only has one FB, so you are stuck with that dude, if you wanna use two back sets.
@@FrankWebber-n4bGuerrendo could most likely play FB. He us a big back. He is 10-15 lbs away from an ideal fullback.
Deebo is a WR but that doesnt stop Kyle from using him as a RB. Since we got 3 RB now we could play one at FB especially since Juice is in decline with a bloated contract. Most teams don't even use a FB. That's one of the main reason Juice keeps making the Probowl
@@dc8201 Blocking Skills???
@FrankWebber-n4b He can learn to block. Guerrendo is a big back that has potential. It's not like Juice does a great job of blocking anyways. Again, most teams aren't even using a FB on their offense. Brayden Willis plays TE and he is a horrible blocker. Put Guerrendo at FB and see how he does. This season is almost lost and Juice is on the decline. If Guerrendo can't play then no big deal but if he can then Niners found their FB of the future. Also, Harbaugh converted Bruce Miller from LB to FB and he was a very good FB for the Niners except he had off the field issues at the end.
Special beam cannon is legendary
COACH, Im riding with you for honest team breakdown. I respect your opinion. I don’t like the click bait views narrative where every post every player is the problem. Every fan wants to trade the whole team. There’s a difference between loyal fans and fair weather. WE NEED TO TRADE THE FAIR WEATHER!!. O-line is garbage, D-fence is garbage, coaching is suspect. Play Ball 🏈!!!
29:36 And trade Josh Dobbs too. Why sign Dobbs to big money and have him backup the backup.
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Grant's the Deebo of The Four Man Front lol
I told you guys a while ago that Kyle purposely moves away from players who are due to get the bag in an attempt to lower their value.
I thought ‘Play Piccolo’ was a reference to Bears running backs Gale Sayers and Brian Piccolo. The movie Brian’s song was a tear jerker from the 70s.
So did I-ooops we’re showing our age!!! 😂😂😂
@@jubelraye3782 I thought the same thing at first also. I was trying to figure out the parallels. What a tragic movie, though
Seriously, how many Piccolos exist in the football world. Yeah, I feel old now too.
@@FrankWebber-n4b namekians are weird
Even if kyle didn't play Mason for the past 3 years just to be stubborn, his out can be "well, Mason has matured and I now feel like he's ready to share carries."
Kyle would say, he's good now because of my impeccable timing to start him, otherwise he would've been trash
Niners should trade away Bosa, Deebo, and CMC for whatever they can get.
They should even consider just cutting them, especially Deebo.
Yes, they’d be paying to not have guys on the team; keeping dead weight around takes up a roster spot which the Niners need just as much.
Team tank
Coach is preaching today. The wide 9 is obsolete
Kyle told the fans we don’t want Trey now it’s time for us to return the favor and 🗑️ Kyle 🔥
Aayyye yo 😂 Ryan is on one today…😂😂😂
Trade Purdy, Bosa, Kittle and Kyle. This team might take 4 or 5 seasons to turn around. Trade them while they still have value and maybe they can win somewhere else.
@@jackied962 why trade Purdy?
The Niners should trade Bosa, CMC, and Deebo.
@@gen3kali877 It's probably going to be like 5 years before the team is good again. Would be kind of a waste to have him here.
@@jackied962 I would agree if there were a fundamental lack of talent on the team. These aren’t the Titans.
As crazy as it sounds the Niners could still win the NFC West if they just used the talent that’s on the roster now. They need to manage the game and use all of their talent. Get away from the terrible Wide 9.
The only barrier to these things happening is Kyle’s stubbornness and ego.
Lock in.
Brock Purdy made so much money last week. Saying that Purdy isn’t worth a contract is stupid. Idk if he is worth $60k, but he is gonna get paid and he deserves it!
Niners are a 1-2 win team this year without Purdy this year. He has been a top 10 QB this year
Umm, this is one of the funniest episodes. " Shows you where your heads at". Boom.
They’re not punting the season they’re going to go out there and do their job like always win or lose. If These narratives are getting ridiculous
So we're gonna raw dawg it 😂
Exactly
Also the 49ers are allergic to O-line men so they better not pay him the bag
Q: Is there a glaring difference from last year's O-Line ⚓ and this year's O-Line ⚓ that CMC is rushing behind? 🤔⛽
Brock not built for this
Pay Brock a 10$ raise let him work harder for tht big money
Baker over Brock, 30M for Brock, damn people forget real quick what Brock’s done after one missed game. Can’t rewrite history, the guy took us to the NFC Championship and the SB, while balling out a lot of the time. SZN hasn’t been perfect for him but he’s been carrying the team on a lot of games including some losses.
Man ya'll need to stop. No one has forgotten. The issue is that $60M is a lot for ANY player. Just ask the Cowboys with Dak. Everyone acknowledges what Brock has done and thats he is a good QB but the price is too high. Baker is also a good QB who won a Heisman for a reason. Brock is more accurate, has better timing, and processes better than Baker. But Baker has a far stronger arm and hasn't had the same level of weapons. Both are good QBs.
And to add to your point the first nfc championship he took us his rookie year without playing all those games. He played like 6 games then won 2 playoff games. They are haters
I’m a big Purdy fan. HUGE. But the boys have a point. In the NFL, you’re paid for expected future performance over past excellence. And even though I think the drop in Brocks performance is due in large part to Kyle‘s game calling and personnel management (doesn’t value o-line e.g.) his numbers have taken a hit this year. And that second throwing arm injury in as many years doesn’t help.
@@theattitudeshop The only number that's really dropped for Brock is TDs. His passing yards, and rushing yards, are up from last year.
@@treythegreatwhiteCMC took us to the superbowl not Purdy
Kyle needs to feature both jordan and isaac in the backfield
Yep they're punting. We're already seeing a lot of "business decision" injuries popping up now.
If SF doesn't fire ShitInHand, then that probably suggests they tanked this season.
Lmao I'm stealing that nickname
Middlekauff is trying to do a "softball" critique of Kyle now! I sent in a mailbag question and I am curious if he is going to read it. Basically I listed out "Kyle's multiple superbowl choke jobs, getting owned by Flores, Spags & Schwartz" yet the bay area media (outside of Grant) praise him like he is Bill Walsh 2.0 rattling off SB wins!
FIRE KYLE 🔥
TRADE deebo!!
WHO is going to take on that contract? LMAO 49er fanbase.
And the switch up on Brock is CRAZY my guys. You guys already know how hard it is to find a good QB and we got a real good one in the hardest of the hardest of ways that saved even all your podcasting careers. Straighten that back up y’all LACKIN FOR REALS. SHOW SOME RESPECT
Brock isn't a top 5 QB. He has a noodle arm. Jimmy G has a stronger arm
@ clearly you never played sports. Only people who have never played would say something like that.
We like Brock, he's a nifty QB .... but he's too compact and frail to be a franchise QB in the NFL.
And with the small size comes lack of arm strength. (how many attempted passes get batted down?)
Allen is the quintessential QB in todays game. Big body, tough, mobile, accurate, strong arm.
@@freeLA_saint another casual who’s never played a sport and it shows. Your quintessential tall/gritty/ QB Josh Allen was 2nd in the league in 2022 in batted passes when Brock was still 3rd string. Before his MVP calibur season he was an INT throwing machine. Lmao. They said the same about Drew Brees’ height and heart and he’s arguably in the top 5 of QB’s to ever play the game. Russell Wilson? Well he’s starting again in Pittsburgh. Winning and he didn’t grow an inch. Lol Size matters to a certain extent, but you can never measure the unmeasurable’s players like Brock brings to this team. The unmeasurable’s in Fred’s leadership. You just have to know when you see it, and for some of us, we can definitely see it. Because we’ve played with players like this before. Nifty? Lol Some of you guys are so brainwashed by the lamestream sports media it’s really starting to show bc you sound just like an echo chamber in mainstream sports.
@@freeLA_saint frail? He’s 6’1” 220. He does need to protect himself better by sliding.
Am I the only one who doesn’t watch 4 man front unless Grant is the host because everyone else isn’t that good at it?
How can yall not believe in Purdy, this shit is wild. Pay the man 40 milly, he’s worth it
Ryan gets it right. The year after next 😂😂😂
What good QB would stand behind that O line
If he deserves it or not, if Lawrence and Tua get 55mil sadly that's the starting point for Purdy.
Coach is wrong about one thing...contracts are for what your going to do not what you have done.
PURDY WITH BILL BILECHICK WOULD BE A SUPERBOWL MVP with this Roster!
😂
@@JoeGarcia-cg1pp Purdy would have won with Kyle if Kyle had run the ball and played JP
I like Brock a lot but I got commitment issues 😅.
Grant cohn celebrating the demise of sf49ers tanking and forgot about the show
I like the guy’s energy but his smug smile is insufferable. I understand why Javon wanted to punch him
Rather could it be that Coach Kyle doesn't want to be wrong about saving money by not investing in the O-line ⚓ and ?
Play Piccolo!
Way much going on here for my taste.
Forget this season. It's OVER!!!!!! get higher draft picks. Trade down get as many picks as possible. This team needs to rebuild the trenches. Both sides of the ball. The linebacker core. Needs depth.
Kyle quit as soon as he heard about CMCs legs.
This show is perfect for this Generation of fans
Raw dog it baby 😂
C'mon guys! THE #1 guy to Trade first is undoubtedly ................... KYLE SHANAHAN!
You strategically trade him to a team that will give him player personnel control. Then you trade/unload Jucz, Bosa, Deebo, Brendel, etc. to that team. Niners get a boatload of draft picks and cheaper, younger players.
I don't think Brock Purdy deserves to get paid period. He's mid and paying him will set back the franchise for years.
Jesse calls his followers idiots 😂
Purdy never overthrows his receivers.. He can only underthrow... Weak arm is killing this team.. Putting all his weapons in harms way.. Darnold was the answer.. Minnesota figured it out..
CMC to slot receiver to extend his career and get the better back in mason on the field
Sounds like to me the 49ers are playing for a top draft next year 😮
What you guys think?
They can’t bear Chicago at this point
Why even try after that showing in Green bay
Purdy probably doesn't want to be here anyway, read between the lines, gentlemen.
"He has to be right," is why Kyle has to go. 49ers need a new coach and GM with fresh eyes to clean out the roster.
If the bills game turns into a snow bowl the Niners have a shot
Bills-L, Chi-L,Mia-L,Ram-L, NC-L,Arz-L
Grant started the show off with a little zest 😂
It could be a half decade plus before the 49ers win another playoff game. If they tie their future to Purdy that's what will happen.
The takes on Purdy are ludicrous. All of the issues we are seeing are related to bad play calling, mismanagement of games, and poor personnel usage.
You’re making excuses for Purdy like Lombardi.
Your post is ludicrous, you 🤡!!!
What did purdy do that he sux so much ? I have yet to see something so bad?
The takes are bit much but I think it’s a realistic take. He’s a top 5 rusher and last year was a top 5 passer. I still believe if he, with the help of Kyle, Purdy can become top 10 and is capable of winning a superbowl. However, I know Kyle will never change on this team until he leaves which is unfortunate.
#FireKyle🤷🏾♂️
Yall split the dono's...?
im assuming whoever hosts gets em
Yes tank the season and get good draft picks. Sell players like Deebo.
Purdy 20-25 million tops
No discipline,no pride, bad execution. Top 3 coaches need to go. Too many times injuries are the excuse
Grant go run the 49ers I don’t think you’re bias and fire Kyle please.
Burrow was injured for 2 seasons. I mean this is football
And why has his arm been pra been practically ripped off Kyle SHANAHAN has changed his offense
The thumbnail looks like you AI generated your friends 😂
TRADE KYLE wouldn't it free $$$$ Get Chucky=Jon Gruden as head coach he would changed the environment environment environment
Coach always be doin too much but I can dig it
TANK THE SEASON
Contracts are ABSOLUTELY about what you've done in the past. Worst take I have ever heard. 😂
I understand what you’re saying, but it’s only part of the story. What you’ve done in the past (as a player) is what gets you to the negotiating table. The price that is negotiated however, is always based on your expected future performance. No exceptions.
@theattitudeshop you aren't going to be able to b.s. your way out of it either pal 🤣
@@briansmith5293 Huh? He's right though. Teams pay big money because they believe in a player's potential and said player has performed well to earn it. You're also right but that's one aspect of it.
Do you think the York's listening to you guys? If so why are they keeping Kyle? They should invest on a New Coach JON GRUDEN
Brock purdy is better than Jordan love there gonna pay purdy
Both are overrated 😂
It is the arrogant/ choker not head coach material who is responsible for this mess . He has wasted great talent on this team by not even winning one SB .
Clip😂.. can't wait for march..😂
Nothing to play for, as players, but as management?? Hmmm.
This is Kyle Shannon you don't believe in 2 running backs? Not only did he run a 2 rb system he also ran a two QB system lol.
Habitual line stepper is talking about a character from dragon Ball z
This seems to be the Lowest this team has ever been . Maybe they have won all they are going to this year . Are they bad to the core ?
If the 49ers win Sunday it be Tanner Mordecai
1 game behind the division & it’s over? Bunch of bandwagon fans.
Grant stans got what you wanted & everyone pilling on. If Brock is back he do great.
This division very winnable AZ not taking this division. December football is playoff football.
You are hating fools he was top 5 passing yds without his WRs or CMC. Baker over Purdy lol 😂
Niners getting ready to slamwreck Buffalo. Smooth sailing after that. Do not count out this team.
Lol what
Trade deebo and aiyuk get us some good draft picks w WRs and invest in a good o line and it’s wraps
10-7 playoff team out in rd 1
@@kenpowell3557 very low probability of going 10-7.