I must agree with Labella Vita. We’ve had our GrainMaker for over 10 years and this was after going through 4 other grain mills and being quite dissatisfied with the final product. With the GrainMaker this has never been the case - from coarse grains to fine flour, this mill has exceeded all of our expectations. True, it has become quite spendy, but this is a generational mill that I expect will be in use way past our own expiration date. We’ve motorized ours and can grind enough flour for 6 loaves in short order. In a worst case scenario, it becomes an aerobic exercise appliance. With so much invested in preparing for what may be coming, a quality mill is right up there with a good store of grains. Pam & Jim - yours is one of our favorite channels to watch!! Informative, creative and fun to watch! Congratulations on your retirement and may you have many, many years to enjoy it!
It really is a great mill! Wholeheartedly agree with you, it can be passed down to your children. I purchased a cheaper mill that was mostly plastic and while it was easy enough to crank, it accidently fell and broke, was unusable. I wanted my next mill to be rock solid, if the grid went down and my mill broke I'd be stuck, I don't have to worry with my Grainmaker.
@@labellavita2248 I totally agree with you about being prepared for a grid down scenario. We were fortunate enough to pick up a spare GrainMaker mill with the bicycle powered attachment off Craig’s List. We don’t live that far from where they’re manufactured and a trip to visit them is on our list of things to do. Wonderful whole wheat bread!!
We are a farming family in Australia, we have 9000 acres of wheat, faba beans, barley, and canola…. After watching this, I am definitely looking into keeping our wheat, for long term storage
One of my favorite ways to use cooked wheat grains is to make bulgur wheat (somewhat similar to how you do your nixtamalized corn). Dehydrate the cooked wheat kernels and then crack them. The cracked bulgur cooks up very fast and is the basis for many salads, such as tabbouleh. I make a "Waldorf" salad with cooked wheat kernels or bulgur: 2 cups cooked wheat kernels or bulgur wheat; 1 apple, chopped; 1 rib of celery, chopped; 1/2 cup walnuts, chopped; 2 green onions, chopped; Mix with dressing: 2 T mayo, 1 T maple syrup, 1 T apple juice, 1/2 T apple cider vinegar. PS: I use and like the Nutrimill Harvest stone mill. It has variable grinds (using all types of grains) -- from cracked to fine flour. I also still love my 30-year-old KTec grinder, but it does perfect flour (not cracked) It uses steel plates rather than stone plates.
I love my Mockmill Lino. Very fine to large grains. Not cheap,but stones, not an impact mill. So very convenient! I also have a Nutramill no comparison to me. Plus its wooden exterior is lovely to look at if you leave it out on the counter. No fuss clean-up. No , I don’t work for the company just really like it😊
I have the Mockmill 200, with the plastic exterior. Not so pretty but my research indicated that the internal workings are exactly the same as the equivalent wooden model. I thought I'd mention because it is less money, for anyone counting pennies.
I love my GrainMaker mill for those looking for a quality non-electric manual mill (can be motorized). It will grind wheat, beans, nuts into nut butter, coffee, popcorn, and much more. No extra parts to purchase. Not super hard to crank either because of the large flywheel. But prices are really rising, probably won't get any cheaper, last I checked the price had gone up $200 from when I purchased mine over a year ago. If you are in the market for a mill, whatever mill that is, I would encourage you to get one sooner rather than later.
Hi is your the one with legs 110v GrainMaker? Thank you I’m looking this is bigger but it looks like it a good one? I’m new at this so I’m trying to find the one you have. Thank you
I laughed out loud when you mentioned my all time favorite movie "The day after tomorrow." Thank you for this timely video. I have stored some grains, purchased a mill for my Kitchen aid. I have been reluctant to use it yet. Thank you for taking the mystery out of milling grains. Best wishes, Debbie Lavigne
I have grown up canning, dehydrating, gardening and recently freeze drying in all of my 60+ years. However, I have not ground wheat. With everything going on I've been investigating storing whole grains (starting with wheat). I'm looking for a reliable/functionable manual grinder. We can't rely on the grid, and I live in WA state so sun can sometimes be a problem, so anyone that uses a good grinder, it's much appreciated your experiences with grinders.. Thank you!
I am looking forward to your mill recommendation! Been wanting one for years but the cost was a factor, now even more so, unfortunately. Two things about biscuits: First, they will rise higher if cut smaller, just like putting bread in a smaller pan. Second, a trick I use when baking bread which might help biscuits, that I haven't tried yet for biscuits (read below), is to soak the whole wheat flour for a couple hours in the total amount of liquid called for, then add the remaining white flour. It softens the whole grain flour so the gluten doesn't get cut, which helps the rise. My bread is about 45% whole wheat/55% white flour, and it works beautifully. For biscuits, try adding more moisture and let the dough sit for a few minutes before rolling out, or soak the whole wheat separately and then add the other ingredients. Maybe it will help as it does with my bread. I think I will have to try this next time I make biscuits! But, I love whole wheat so may be a tad biased. Cheers and thank you for always sharing such great information.
That's a great idea to soak, I think there is a fancy name for this method but basically your hydrating the flour before mixing. I'm going to add this to my experiments, thank you!
@@UpthePottingShed I got the idea from Peter Reinhart's book "Whole Grain Breads." He calls it a "soaker." He discusses soaking whole grains, too, to get them to sprout and then use them in bread, and fermenting. If you like the technical aspects, it's a great book.
Jim, When I first started making 100% red winter wheat bread, I used butter and honey to test the recipe until I was able to consistently make a good loaf. Definitely the way to go!
I bake sourdough, pizza and other breads regularly and have been doing so for many years. I have a Vitamix that came with the dry ingredients container and was unhappy with the results of grinding wheat. However, it is great for grinding other dry ingredients. So I broke down and purchased a Mockmill 100 grinder and that has done the job. I can grind powder fine flour or cracked wheat and everything in between. I am very happy and have used it with many different grains. The 100 model is not the fanciest Mockmill makes but it's perfect for our family and works the same as the others.
I have a GrainMaker (manufactured in Montana!) It has a similar control as what Pam's old machine has. You can grind a near store bought flour texture if you want. I grind wheat, rice, oats, popcorn (for cornmeal). Nuts (butters), Beans (bean flour etc.) Mills that use stones have limitations. you cannot grind things with high oil content (peanuts for example) nor super hard grains like popcorn. It plugs up the stones similar to sandpaper when it gets plugged up. I looked at all the mills on the market, evaluating from a performance, convivence, durability and where its mfg. The Grainmaker is expensive but will do everything you need and will last a lifetime + You get what you pay for!
Fellow friends you have led us too milling, the video that was done by your good selves opened up a new world to us. Following flour power and grain mills we went on the net and investigated what was the best one for us we came up with the Mockmill 100. The instructions easy to follow are set out well, the booklet can be kept in the hopper. You are BRILLIANT we discovered buckwheat WOW. Karma my husband has stomach problems and is gluten intolerant. Now he loves making pancakes so thank you and I hope this may help. Blessings to you and Jim
I feel different than you & others about the Wonder Mill. I have had mine for 2 years & just love mine. I use it on the fine setting & get the flour I like. I use a combination mixed from white wheat, einkorn & spelt kernals. When I make bread I use half King Arthur AP flour & half my mixed grain flour. I also usually make sourdough bread. I also have a Country Living Mill that is motorized. Works very well but is very slow. Can use it for any kind of kernal & can Crack the kernals if I want. Have had it for 14 years & got it second hand but was actually new for half the price of new. Thanks for the I formational videos.
I am pretty happy with my Nutrimill (though my family runs and hides when I use it because of the volume). Thank you, Pam, for such an informative video. I never thought of using a slightly smaller loaf pan for whole grain bread to get more lift. Also, I hadn't thought of using the whole grains as a hot cereal, but it sounds good!
Love my mock mill stone ground was my goal have had it nearly two years bake bread twice a week. No bagged flour in my home I use the mill for any flour I need
Oh what perfect timjng! I also have been researching grain mills recently and truly have not found any I feel would be worth the expense. I will eagerly await your research results as I trust your judgment so much. Adding whole grains into my family’s food storage is high priority and I am so happy for the information you have shared in this video. Thank you both so much for all the hard work and time spent to share your amazing knowledge and love of teaching! Be well and continued joy!
I bought a Nutrimill and I’m happy with it so far. I really enjoyed the “cream of wheat” I made with it. A couple of months after I bought it, Nutrimill had a $100 off sale 😡. It looks much prettier than the plastic grain mills.
Your older model sounds like it works the same as the Mockmill. I think you would like the versatility. It’s well made, easy to use, daily quiet and does not get everything in the kitchen dusty.
Great video and I appreciate the comparisons you did between the Vitamix and grain mill. I had planned on using my Vitamix but see that for a more expansive variety of grains it would be wise to get a grain mill. The Vitamix will be great for small jobs though of certain things. Always fun and informative!!!
I’ve been grinding my own grains for about a month now. I’ve baked brownies and muffins they are absolutely delicious. I love the fact that we are getting such wonderful nutrition now. I’ve never baked yeast bread but I’m ready to start that now with my own milled grains. Anyone have suggestions for a first recipe?
Using a vitamix has really been on my mind lately, and out of the blue, I see your video. 👏 Thank you so much for your wisdom and experience. I love it when you talk about these foods during your childhood. That makes you stand out from all the newbie homesteaders, which don't get me wrong I love them too, but yours has an added layer of rich experience. Thanks so much. You also inspired me to start a sourdough starter and get to baking bread after 30 years of marriage. 😘 thanks!
So grateful for this video. I purchased a Mockmill 200 after much research and the first couple of times I used it thought I'd made a huge mistake. Despite following, or so I thought, the instructions, my flour wasn't fine and the stones clogged constantly. I was panicking that it could have been the wheat, I'd purchased 25kg of. I continued a little downhearted, I kept using rice to clean the stone, and followed the instructions time and again to set the lever. I'm glad I kept trying because gradually, it came together, like the stones were bedding in and the lever started graduating the level of fineness as expected. I now love my Mockmill! As Pam pointed out to be true, my first loaf using 100% milled wheat was very heavy. Next I tried using a sieve to remove the bran, adding it back in after mixing the dough and sprinkling some over the crust before baking, somethingI found on Google. That made a softer bread and was rather nice. Certainly not like my high quality bread flour, fluffy white kind of nice, but whole grain nice. My latest attempt is, substituting 20% of my milled wheat. That produced a lovely fluffy white loaf! Next I will try 30% and so on until I reach a limit of desired texture acceptable for my household. My go to bread flour recipe is: 2.5lb bread flour, 1/2 oz salt, 3/4 oz yeast, 1 tablespoon sugar, 1/2 cup olive oil. This is a traditional British recipe from the 50s, I've swapped butter for olive oil, butter works beautifully, but I'm trying to make it healthier. We don't tend to like sweet bread, you can increase the sugar for a US style bread. I don't measure the water but use as much as is necessary to create a dough that is only just dry enough to handle. The water is about 27c temp. The dryer it gets, the heavier the bread, in my experience. This is the recipe, I'm experimenting with. I have used 100% milled wheat to create a lovely fruit bread using this recipe. Simply fold in dried fruit and mixed spice when forming loaf. I keep adding until it looks like it can't handle more. I roll out, sprinkle, fold and repeat. It's heavy but that's OK, sliced and with butter is yummy. The fruit bread using a 50% mix of flour with milled wheat, is soft a lovely, like a hot cross bun texture. Hope this helps anybody else who is experimenting and new to milling wheat.
Thank you for a nice demonstration of the differences among the grains and their various grinds. The flavor of whole grains freshly ground is so wonderful. Thanks for another quality video!
I would like to see a video clearing up the misconceptions swirling around storage times and methods for the GF seeds and grains used for making baked goods.
1/14/23 Thank you. My wife is hypoglycemic and grains are a problem for us (her). I only have a hand grinder until I find the best electric. I use K.A. whole wheat but I purchase 50 pound bags of white, non-bromated, non-GMO, non-bleached from a local mill. I do have a separate coffee mill, LOL. God Bless and stay safe.
My goodness I learned so much here today. 1. I need smaller pans if using whole wheat flour. 2. I'm not grinding my wheat fine enough. 3. Had no idea I could crack my own Oats and wheat. Never gave it much thought until now. I have the MockMill 100 and I love it. I cant compare it though, since its the only one I've owned. In the summer, I cook the whole grain, cool and toss in a large bowl with diced fresh garden vegetables. Drizzle with olive oil and lemon juice (or vinegar of choice) salt and pepper. The added wheat makes it a really hearty salad. Top with feta or another crumbly cheese and you're all set. Thanks so much for all the informative videos!
Ive been using the Kitchen Aid Wheat Mill it works fine and does a pretty fine grind - Recently though I have been considering buying a stand alone mill - the one I am closing in on is called Mockmill 100 -
I'm very happy with my Mockmill 100. Works fast and the product (cracked, fine flour, etc) comes out beautifully. I chose it after doing A LOT research. I've had zero issues with it and is so easy to use.
This is a great instructional video. The other day I did a binge watch on all your bread making videos and took notes of all the recipes with instructions to save for future reference. Getting ready to make my first batch of bread using the new Mock Mill. I'm going to try my hand at the long ferment. Great job Pam!
I ordered one from Lehmens. Ya…I dropped the money but it will out live me and grandchildren. It’s hand cranked…just in case I don’t have electricity. It’s nice.
I love that you and Jim interact! I get the feeling you have started to enjoy being retired! As you should! Thanks for helping us to make wise decisions.
I bought a nutrimill grinder based on reviews...haven't used yet but it sure is aesthetically pleasing for the counter...I also purchased a manual victorio grinder...yet to use.
I recently splurged and bought a Country Living grain mill. That is for when and if the grid goes down. I also have a Vitamix grain milling container. I have used that many times. We also have the same grains as you, Pam, stored away.
I have had my eye on that Country Living grain mill as well. But if the grid goes down, we can plug our mill into our solar generator, so I'm now thinking we don't need to buy one. But I still love how they look.
I have a mockmill and LOVE it. It has the same variability as your stone mill. You can adjust it from fine fine flour to so coarse that whole wheat kernels come though, so as coarse as you could possibly want! The only real difference is the mockmill doesn’t come with its own flour bin, but I just use a rectangular plastic container which works nicely.
@@RoseRedHomestead oh nice! In case you don’t know, the difference between the 100 and 200 is speed, the 200 is faster. The wooden models have the exact same internals as the respective white ones, just for a lot more money!
@@RoseRedHomestead oh, I should also say: the mockmill customer service people are VERY GOOD. Extremely helpful with getting the machine up and running properly
We have a Wondermill & like it very much. When we grind flour for bread, we adjust the dial 1/4” to the left of “pastry flour,” & it does a nice fine flour. Whether it’s as fine as yours, I don’t know. Also, we get our wheat from the Church Storehouse, & mix the white whole wheat and red whole wheat 1/2-1/2, and add 2 T gluten flour and 1/3 cup quick oats. Our recipe uses honey too.
Vita mix has a milling blade that I use when I make my flour. It does a much better job than the regular blade. It has a blunted end. I also have a 40 year old, loud, heavy, champion juicer that has a blade for milling flour. But I would really like a very convenient dedicated miller, just don’t want another thing on my counter.
This was so informative. Since I’ve been watching your grain videos I started adding them back to my menu. And also for some long term storage. Thanks Pam!
I purchased a Mockmill, and I love it. Yes, I paid just over $500 can, but I've been extremely happy with how it mills all my grains. The oat groats mill out just like the bought oatmeal. There are 10 levels depending on what you want to mill and how fine. Noise level was important to me as well, and in all my research and video watching, this was the best one. It also looks nice to leave on the counter without taking up much space.
I recently bought the Mockmill 200. I was previously using my Vitamix. The mockmill works much better to grind fine flour. The flour comes out of a spout on the mill and falls into your low bowel or container with no mess or dust. I also like that you can buy replacement parts. I bought an extra set of grinding stones and springs just in case. I can also use my Jackary solar generator to run the mill.
This is very helpful and so interesting. I appreciate all the extra examples of grains done in the mill or Vitamix.I have a Vitamix but I plan on getting a mill for not only our grains that we eat but I have 60 chickens and will be growing dent corn to supplement the store feed to help in the cost of feeding my chickens.
I have been trying to gather information on grain mills, so this is very welcome. I have been drawn to the Mockmill, so I will be anxious to see which one you end up choosing. Thanks so much for all of the information you share with us.
Totally agree on switching to using home milled flour from whole grain gradually and before it may become necessary! When my husband and I switched, we started out with 1/2 unbleached commercial flour and 1/2 home milled and still had some very interesting digestive changes. For our standard bread recipe I ended up using a ratio of 1/4 commercial, 1/4 home milled barley and 1/2 home milled wheat flours. If we wanted a sweeter and more cake-like crumb (IE for buns, rolls, bagels) I'd proof the yeast in a mix of honey and warm milk and add vital wheat gluten with the flours. Unfortunately I was diagnosed over a decade later with Celiac and can no longer work with gluten-containing substances. I am still searching for a recipe someone who doesn't have my dietary restrictions would eat voluntarily, and would be very interested in hearing the results of your research on baking gluten free! I've been playing with chickpea flour for pasta and cassava for bread, but no luck yet.
Loved your segment today. I had a green mill like your white one I wore it out beyond repair. I used it for 40 plus years and I loved it!! I have replace it with a K-Tec kitchen mill. It is a great little mill, easy to operate and clean. I also purchased a heavy duty hand grinder to make cracked wheat. It does everything you can imagine. You can grind 8 cups of flour in 5 minutes. It is made in Montana .It is called a Grain Maker. It would be ideaol if we had to be with out power. The K-Tec mill is perfect for just my husband and I.
I loved this video. I do have a question about good hand grinding mills for grid down situations. I'm wondering if you have recommendations for any of those available on the market.
We have not looked into that. We have a granite counter top, which is too thick to give us a real solid, slip-free, stable grinder without scratching the counter top. Pam will be doing a video hand crank mills. Jim
South Asians (India) standardly mill grais at home chapatis (tortillas, flat breads) using modern electric mills, but traditional stones are still sold domestically. on a side note, those doing freeze drying, the new Turkish camping samovars seem a handy and cheap answer to making quick boiling water. Depending on the model, some have a small tea pot inside.
I have the Vitamix dry caraf. The flour produced is not as fine as what my Mock Mill can grind, and you cannot produce uniformly cracked grain. Also, the flour gets very hot in the Vitamix and I've heard that the high heat affects the nutrition.
Wonderful information in this video! I was toying with the idea of storing those "berries", but had no idea which to buy. Thank you for this much needed info! You have greatly helped our families!
If you haven’t seen them take a look at the mock mills grinder. They are very nice and have a variety of price ranges. I have just their base level one and it’s great.
I purchased a Wondermill jr manual crank, in case of grid down situation, or with tool that fits a drill or can be motorized later, it also has the auger for nuts and making nut butters…I am going to purchase a Mockmill 100 for convenience in kitchen…love your videos Pam and Jim, take care and enjoy your retirement…
I splurged for the komo fidibus classic when I decided I wanted to add whole grains to my storage. Wow, what a learning curve! I've had some hockey pucks too. My family is more inclined to eat bread if I mix. I also sift about half of what I mill. It seems to help. Thanks for the whole grain video and look forward to more since I'm still in the learning phase.
My electric mill is a KoMo Mio. I think it does as good a job grinding as commercial flour. Pleasant Hill Grain's website has videos & side by side comparisons of the various mills. I'm going to try your basic bread recipe. I like your recipes. Have you thought about storing soft white wheat? If you have access to a cow your biscuits can be a simple 2 ingredient recipe. Whipping cream biscuits. Super easy to make. Jim won't complain of hockey pucks anymore. 😄
Pam: I also started with a Wondermill and was not satisfied with the courseness of the grind even at the pastry setting on that machine. I am hoping to use it for making cornmeal. I also received a Mockmill 100 for Christmas, it is only marginally better. Mockmill's only redeeming feature is that grain can be ground more than one time. Neither of these mills will produce flour fine enough for pastry or cookies and cakes. I also like fine flour for bread baking and if I want a mill that will produce that quality of grind I am afraid I will have to invest in a professional or a much more expensive mill than I am willing to spend out for at this time.
@@RoseRedHomestead Pam: When I milled hard white winter wheat for bread flour with the Mockmill 100 I ground it twice on the finest setting and it still felt course in my fingers not at all like store bought flour. I am not sure what a Mockmill Lino is but the only other product in that manufacuturer's product line I would consider buying is their professional model for a whopping $730.00 or more. It seems to have a larger motor and many more adjustment settings. But I am not ready to go down that rabbit hole yet. I have also given consideration to sending the Mockmill 100 back for a refund, but sometimes we just have to make due with what we have.
I was wondering about the Wonder Mill you bought. I’ve got the Kitchen Aid attachment. It’s far from perfect. But until we can figure out the best bang for the buck, I’ll use this. I’m like you, invest wisely.
Hi! Love your videos! I've been watching several the last few days to gain some information about food security and baking bread. Could you please let me know where you buy your whole grains for milling? Thank you for sharing all you do. :)
Pam & Jim what a blessing you both are! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us and your sense of humor. I’ve had a Mockmill that I purchased two years ago and have stored away grain. My question is where would I find a grain mill to use should the grid go down and no other power was available. Thank you.
Good afternoon Rose Red. I have a question that doesn’t pertain to grains but canning. I know I’m off subject. I purchased a Nesco canner for Christmas. I’m totally new to canning. I’ve used the Nesco three times and love how easy it is. 2 out of three times it only vented a few minutes and went to pressure. I called Nesco twice and they said it was ok, that the canned just reached pressure early. I’ve researched endlessly to see if anyone else has had this problem. I just wanted your opinion. I know it would only be your opinion but I trust your opinion. Thanks in advance.
I noticed that you didnt mention sifting the flour after milling it - That is what I do - I generally will mill 4 cups then sift it 2x or 3x and it cleans it up really well - No idea the percentage but the bread comes out as good as 100% white
Yes, you are correct. Pam generally grinds the grains one time, but on occasions when she needs it finer, it will go through the grinder a second time. Jim
I have been wanting a grain grinder for several months. Because of the cost I know I can only afford one so I am hesitant to buy because if I don’t like it I’m stuck with it. Anxiously waiting your report on the new grinder! ❤
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I grately enjoy listening to you and how thorough you are when explaining. I am always learning something new from you! I wish you would have discussed the differences between the types of wheat, ie. Hard red, hard white , soft red, soft white and what the outcome would be for baking with each. (Maybe an idea for an upcoming video 😉) Until next time, God Bless and take care!
Hi I lam new to grains I want to get grains and mills. When do you think you will know which machine you are going to get? I have been looking and I see different opinions on them. I want to make the right decision. Thank you for your help in this video.
A timely video for me! I was just beginning my search into grain mills this morning, and then up popped your video. Many were recommending the Wonder Mill Jr, and so it was one I began exploring. I would really like one that could be useful both in my home and for off grid in case shtf . I value your opinion, above most others so I am waiting for your next review video. My specific needs are for the gluten free whole grains for long term storage.
You might check out pleasanthillgrain.com They have lots of good information on the top rated grain mills. Their site is helping me make my final decision.
Oh my goodness that movie left such an impression on me!😬 thank you for the video I'm looking for a grain mill. I too want the versatility of cracked and fine. I also want a nice case😉I want to leave it on the cupboard to become part of the kitchen so it is out and not being put away to take it out all the time. I could cry, my Vitmix died last night and I will customer service today to see what happens 🤞it's just over a year old. Everyone said they were so great and are so expensive.
Check out pleasanthillgrain.com I am very impressed with all the information they have on the best grain mills. So sorry about your VitaMix--that is awful. Mine is about 20 years old so I know they do last for a long time. I hope they will replace it for you.
Pam, thank you for this information! I always learn something or many things from each video of yours I watch...you are such a wonderful teacher! I have another suggestion for videos & books: Beans - Dried & how long they can be stored, proper storage, cooking, can they be ground in to powder after they get too hard to cook, canning & how long they will last, sprouting before cooking...hmmm, adding bean flour to bread or other baked goods, etc., etc., etc. For instance, I just read you can use the soak water to boil your beans (I have always heard you should discard it) & I thought that would be smart if water is scarce. I was then wondering if it would be okay to water plants with this water, or boil and filter it for drinking or cooking other things...
Wow--lots of questions. Beans store up to 30 years. Once they get old and hard, you can add a tsp of baking soda when cooking. I would never use the soaking water for cooking because the soaking water leaches some unpleasant compounds that get into the water, so dump it and use fresh water for cooking. I think it would be fine to water plants with it.
Really looking forward to your recommendation for a grain mill. In a perfect world, I would like one that can be either electric or hand cranked, and also can handle a variety of grains. I’ve unsuccessfully tried to research this several times.
Check out the information on this site--they have lots of excellent info on the top name brand mills. Their site has really helped me in my decision. pleasanthillgrain.com
When I was raising my kids I used whole wheat a lot. I bought a used grinder for a great price and ground my own flour. The kids don't like wheat bread now but they loved it then. I found I don't like store bought wheat bread either. It tastes like they add something that has an off taste. A friend gave me a hint for whole wheat bread and you might try a video of experimenting with it. She told me to use some kind of acidic liquid added to the first mixing of liquids to the flour and not to add the oil till just before it got thick. I used vinegar, I think it was 1 TBSP to 2 1/2 cups of flour. I may be wrong about that since it has been so long. Could be 2 TBSP. But it did make my loaves rise higher and be finer grained. I don't bake bread anymore since I tend to eat the whole loaf slathered with butter and I am trying to get a lot of weight off. I found one brand of wheat bread that I love but it isn't 100% whole wheat. It is lower calorie though.
Thank you so much for this video!! I really appreciate it. I had never thought about oats and corn for long term storage. I have to investigate the lyme treatment for corn and also I'm interested in the rolled oats. We love watching your videos. Thank you both very much for the time and hard work!! One question. Do you have to wash the wheat? I'd read that in one place but we didn't wash ours prior to grinding. We have a kitchen aid mill attachment and it seems to work pretty good.
I have a vita mix and not sure a grinder would be necessary for me, but I do have wheat grains to make flour. Not sure what to do. Thank you for this information. 😊
Love my Mockmill 100. Anything from very fine flour to large grain (use for cereals or for cracked toppings on my artisan bread). Not as fancy and beautiful as the Lino but the 100 works perfectly for me and actually looks nice on my countertop.
Hi Pam. I have a WonderMill and am thinking about replacing it with something more convienient to use, that can stay on my countertop instead of having to go get it from the pantry every time I want to grind some grain into flour. I am thinking about a Mockmill 200 Stone Grain Mill, which costs $395. It's well made, compact and sits on the countertop, much like the one you have. I hope you will review this mill as I value your opinions very much. Thanks.
Hi Chuck. The Mockmill 200 was one of two finalists for my own mill. While I could not give it a good review unless I purchased it, I do have a website that presents solid information on the mills they sell, which are the top contenders. Here is the link and I also was able to poke around the site for more information to find out how fine of flour each one produced. I ended up not going with the Mockmill, but I do believe it is a great machine. I will get mine next week, work with it a bit, then present it on a video. pleasanthillgrain.com/resources/grain-mill-comparison-feature-review
Another wonderful video! This is a subject dear to my heart! I’ve been using a KoMo Classic for a over 10 years and I’m very happy with it. The flour quality is excellent, imo. Like your mill, I can dial grain coarseness for cracked wheat. Pleasant Hill Grains (based in Nebraska) sells KoMo, WonderMill, Nutri Mill, and a number of other mills. “Pleasant Hill Grain is an authorized dealer for Bosch, Ankarsrum, Kuhn Rikon, Skeppshult, Edgecraft, Berkey Purifiers, KoMo, Vitamix, Famag, Häussler, Zojirushi.” I can’t speak to their prices, not having done research for a long time. I believe their grains are more expensive than some, but they come packaged in airtight buckets ready for long term storage. They have wonderful write ups, discussing the different grains & their properties - available free. I’m considering buying a WonderMill Junior (expensive-so saving up) to use as backup if the grid goes down. It can grind coffee & nut butters which my KoMo can not. Personally, if I can afford it, I try to avoid plastic as much as I can. They claim, that the wood mills will last longer than plastic mills - something to take with a grain of salt, but at least it not made of petroleum. Mine looks and works just as good after 10 years of much use as it did when brand new.
My brain mill is a hand cranking found on Amazon. And I to grew up chewing on wheat from the field. But where do you get the raw seeds ? Keep the videos coming!
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I must agree with Labella Vita. We’ve had our GrainMaker for over 10 years and this was after going through 4 other grain mills and being quite dissatisfied with the final product. With the GrainMaker this has never been the case - from coarse grains to fine flour, this mill has exceeded all of our expectations. True, it has become quite spendy, but this is a generational mill that I expect will be in use way past our own expiration date. We’ve motorized ours and can grind enough flour for 6 loaves in short order. In a worst case scenario, it becomes an aerobic exercise appliance. With so much invested in preparing for what may be coming, a quality mill is right up there with a good store of grains.
Pam & Jim - yours is one of our favorite channels to watch!! Informative, creative and fun to watch! Congratulations on your retirement and may you have many, many years to enjoy it!
It really is a great mill! Wholeheartedly agree with you, it can be passed down to your children. I purchased a cheaper mill that was mostly plastic and while it was easy enough to crank, it accidently fell and broke, was unusable. I wanted my next mill to be rock solid, if the grid went down and my mill broke I'd be stuck, I don't have to worry with my Grainmaker.
@@labellavita2248 I totally agree with you about being prepared for a grid down scenario. We were fortunate enough to pick up a spare GrainMaker mill with the bicycle powered attachment off Craig’s List. We don’t live that far from where they’re manufactured and a trip to visit them is on our list of things to do. Wonderful whole wheat bread!!
We are a farming family in Australia, we have 9000 acres of wheat, faba beans, barley, and canola…. After watching this, I am definitely looking into keeping our wheat, for long term storage
One of my favorite ways to use cooked wheat grains is to make bulgur wheat (somewhat similar to how you do your nixtamalized corn). Dehydrate the cooked wheat kernels and then crack them. The cracked bulgur cooks up very fast and is the basis for many salads, such as tabbouleh. I make a "Waldorf" salad with cooked wheat kernels or bulgur: 2 cups cooked wheat kernels or bulgur wheat; 1 apple, chopped; 1 rib of celery, chopped; 1/2 cup walnuts, chopped; 2 green onions, chopped; Mix with dressing: 2 T mayo, 1 T maple syrup, 1 T apple juice, 1/2 T apple cider vinegar. PS: I use and like the Nutrimill Harvest stone mill. It has variable grinds (using all types of grains) -- from cracked to fine flour. I also still love my 30-year-old KTec grinder, but it does perfect flour (not cracked) It uses steel plates rather than stone plates.
I love my Mockmill Lino. Very fine to large grains. Not cheap,but stones, not an impact mill. So very convenient! I also have a Nutramill no comparison to me. Plus its wooden exterior is lovely to look at if you leave it out on the counter. No fuss clean-up. No , I don’t work for the company just really like it😊
I agree - love my mockmill
I went with the Mockmill. I was looking at the Nutramill, and they are lovely to look at. However, I don't have extra counter space.
Me too Just love my mockmill.
I have the Mockmill 200, with the plastic exterior. Not so pretty but my research indicated that the internal workings are exactly the same as the equivalent wooden model. I thought I'd mention because it is less money, for anyone counting pennies.
@@UpthePottingShed I bought the plastic version as well.
I love my GrainMaker mill for those looking for a quality non-electric manual mill (can be motorized). It will grind wheat, beans, nuts into nut butter, coffee, popcorn, and much more. No extra parts to purchase. Not super hard to crank either because of the large flywheel. But prices are really rising, probably won't get any cheaper, last I checked the price had gone up $200 from when I purchased mine over a year ago. If you are in the market for a mill, whatever mill that is, I would encourage you to get one sooner rather than later.
Hi is your the one with legs 110v GrainMaker? Thank you I’m looking this is bigger but it looks like it a good one? I’m new at this so I’m trying to find the one you have. Thank you
I laughed out loud when you mentioned my all time favorite movie "The day after tomorrow." Thank you for this timely video. I have stored some grains, purchased a mill for my Kitchen aid. I have been reluctant to use it yet. Thank you for taking the mystery out of milling grains. Best wishes, Debbie Lavigne
I bought one too... maybe I'll try it out today before I forget where I put it
Another good one is 2012
Love the tip on using a smaller loaf pan when using whole grain flours. Wonderful video answering so many questions
Glad it was helpful!
I have grown up canning, dehydrating, gardening and recently freeze drying in all of my 60+ years. However, I have not ground wheat. With everything going on I've been investigating storing whole grains (starting with wheat). I'm looking for a reliable/functionable manual grinder. We can't rely on the grid, and I live in WA state so sun can sometimes be a problem, so anyone that uses a good grinder, it's much appreciated your experiences with grinders.. Thank you!
I am looking forward to your mill recommendation! Been wanting one for years but the cost was a factor, now even more so, unfortunately.
Two things about biscuits: First, they will rise higher if cut smaller, just like putting bread in a smaller pan. Second, a trick I use when baking bread which might help biscuits, that I haven't tried yet for biscuits (read below), is to soak the whole wheat flour for a couple hours in the total amount of liquid called for, then add the remaining white flour. It softens the whole grain flour so the gluten doesn't get cut, which helps the rise. My bread is about 45% whole wheat/55% white flour, and it works beautifully. For biscuits, try adding more moisture and let the dough sit for a few minutes before rolling out, or soak the whole wheat separately and then add the other ingredients. Maybe it will help as it does with my bread. I think I will have to try this next time I make biscuits! But, I love whole wheat so may be a tad biased. Cheers and thank you for always sharing such great information.
What an interesting idea! I will try that and hope it works for me as it does for you! Thank you so much for sharing.
That's a great idea to soak, I think there is a fancy name for this method but basically your hydrating the flour before mixing. I'm going to add this to my experiments, thank you!
@@UpthePottingShed I got the idea from Peter Reinhart's book "Whole Grain Breads." He calls it a "soaker." He discusses soaking whole grains, too, to get them to sprout and then use them in bread, and fermenting. If you like the technical aspects, it's a great book.
@@Mrs.Patriot Thank you, I'll check it out!
@@UpthePottingShed I think the word you’re talking about is autolyse , basically allowing more hydration. Cheers
Jim, When I first started making 100% red winter wheat bread, I used butter and honey to test the recipe until I was able to consistently make a good loaf. Definitely the way to go!
Sounds great! I like honey, or a good jam or jelly. Jim
I bake sourdough, pizza and other breads regularly and have been doing so for many years. I have a Vitamix that came with the dry ingredients container and was unhappy with the results of grinding wheat. However, it is great for grinding other dry ingredients. So I broke down and purchased a Mockmill 100 grinder and that has done the job. I can grind powder fine flour or cracked wheat and everything in between. I am very happy and have used it with many different grains. The 100 model is not the fanciest Mockmill makes but it's perfect for our family and works the same as the others.
As always you never disappoint in your thoroughness! Thanks so much!!
I have a GrainMaker (manufactured in Montana!) It has a similar control as what Pam's old machine has. You can grind a near store bought flour texture if you want. I grind wheat, rice, oats, popcorn (for cornmeal). Nuts (butters), Beans (bean flour etc.)
Mills that use stones have limitations. you cannot grind things with high oil content (peanuts for example) nor super hard grains like popcorn. It plugs up the stones similar to sandpaper when it gets plugged up.
I looked at all the mills on the market, evaluating from a performance, convivence, durability and where its mfg. The Grainmaker is expensive but will do everything you need and will last a lifetime +
You get what you pay for!
Thank you. I will look that up. I wanted one that could do both dry and wet milling like nuts. I appreciate your taking the time to explain in length.
Fellow friends you have led us too milling, the video that was done by your good selves opened up a new world to us. Following flour power and grain mills we went on the net and investigated what was the best one for us we came up with the Mockmill 100. The instructions easy to follow are set out well, the booklet can be kept in the hopper. You are BRILLIANT we discovered buckwheat WOW. Karma my husband has stomach problems and is gluten intolerant. Now he loves making pancakes so thank you and I hope this may help. Blessings to you and Jim
Thank you for your very kind comments. Jim
Where did you find the Mockmill? I don't see that brand on amazon. Thank you.
@@RebeccaYoung3 Are you in US?
@@RebeccaYoung3 I got it on the Mockmill website.
@@charliedoucette2249 No. I am Australian.
I feel different than you & others about the Wonder Mill. I have had mine for 2 years & just love mine. I use it on the fine setting & get the flour I like. I use a combination mixed from white wheat, einkorn & spelt kernals. When I make bread I use half King Arthur AP flour & half my mixed grain flour. I also usually make sourdough bread. I also have a Country Living Mill that is motorized. Works very well but is very slow. Can use it for any kind of kernal & can Crack the kernals if I want. Have had it for 14 years & got it second hand but was actually new for half the price of new. Thanks for the I formational videos.
I, too, have a Wondermill purchased in 2015. I love it. It doesn’t spew flour around and grinds nicely on the fine setting.
I am pretty happy with my Nutrimill (though my family runs and hides when I use it because of the volume). Thank you, Pam, for such an informative video. I never thought of using a slightly smaller loaf pan for whole grain bread to get more lift. Also, I hadn't thought of using the whole grains as a hot cereal, but it sounds good!
Love my mock mill stone ground was my goal have had it nearly two years bake bread twice a week. No bagged flour in my home I use the mill for any flour I need
I have a mockmill grain mill. It has stone grinders and can be adjusted and love it!
Sounds great! That is actually the one I am looking at.
I. Have just ordered a mock mill. There are lots of good reviews on it
Oh what perfect timjng! I also have been researching grain mills recently and truly have not found any I feel would be worth the expense. I will eagerly await your research results as I trust your judgment so much. Adding whole grains into my family’s food storage is high priority and I am so happy for the information you have shared in this video. Thank you both so much for all the hard work and time spent to share your amazing knowledge and love of teaching! Be well and continued joy!
You are so welcome! so glad it was helpful.
I bought a Nutrimill and I’m happy with it so far. I really enjoyed the “cream of wheat” I made with it. A couple of months after I bought it, Nutrimill had a $100 off sale 😡. It looks much prettier than the plastic grain mills.
Your older model sounds like it works the same as the Mockmill. I think you would like the versatility. It’s well made, easy to use, daily quiet and does not get everything in the kitchen dusty.
I love the fact of your honesty. You always give your unbiased opinion. Thanks for your info and how you and Jim and laugh at your experiments
We appreciate that! Jim
Great video and I appreciate the comparisons you did between the Vitamix and grain mill. I had planned on using my Vitamix but see that for a more expansive variety of grains it would be wise to get a grain mill. The Vitamix will be great for small jobs though of certain things. Always fun and informative!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Perfect timing! I was looking at the Wonder mill products.
I will be growing Sorghum for the first time this spring.
It's amazing that you can buy a hand-crank grain mill (cast -iron) from as low as $39.00 on Amazon to an electric-powered one that runs over $380!
I’ve been grinding my own grains for about a month now. I’ve baked brownies and muffins they are absolutely delicious. I love the fact that we are getting such wonderful nutrition now.
I’ve never baked yeast bread but I’m ready to start that now with my own milled grains. Anyone have suggestions for a first recipe?
Using a vitamix has really been on my mind lately, and out of the blue, I see your video. 👏
Thank you so much for your wisdom and experience. I love it when you talk about these foods during your childhood.
That makes you stand out from all the newbie homesteaders, which don't get me wrong I love them too, but yours has an added layer of rich experience. Thanks so much. You also inspired me to start a sourdough starter and get to baking bread after 30 years of marriage.
😘 thanks!
I loved your comment--thanks for sharing.
So grateful for this video. I purchased a Mockmill 200 after much research and the first couple of times I used it thought I'd made a huge mistake. Despite following, or so I thought, the instructions, my flour wasn't fine and the stones clogged constantly. I was panicking that it could have been the wheat, I'd purchased 25kg of. I continued a little downhearted, I kept using rice to clean the stone, and followed the instructions time and again to set the lever. I'm glad I kept trying because gradually, it came together, like the stones were bedding in and the lever started graduating the level of fineness as expected. I now love my Mockmill! As Pam pointed out to be true, my first loaf using 100% milled wheat was very heavy. Next I tried using a sieve to remove the bran, adding it back in after mixing the dough and sprinkling some over the crust before baking, somethingI found on Google. That made a softer bread and was rather nice. Certainly not like my high quality bread flour, fluffy white kind of nice, but whole grain nice. My latest attempt is, substituting 20% of my milled wheat. That produced a lovely fluffy white loaf! Next I will try 30% and so on until I reach a limit of desired texture acceptable for my household. My go to bread flour recipe is: 2.5lb bread flour, 1/2 oz salt, 3/4 oz yeast, 1 tablespoon sugar, 1/2 cup olive oil. This is a traditional British recipe from the 50s, I've swapped butter for olive oil, butter works beautifully, but I'm trying to make it healthier. We don't tend to like sweet bread, you can increase the sugar for a US style bread. I don't measure the water but use as much as is necessary to create a dough that is only just dry enough to handle. The water is about 27c temp. The dryer it gets, the heavier the bread, in my experience. This is the recipe, I'm experimenting with. I have used 100% milled wheat to create a lovely fruit bread using this recipe. Simply fold in dried fruit and mixed spice when forming loaf. I keep adding until it looks like it can't handle more. I roll out, sprinkle, fold and repeat. It's heavy but that's OK, sliced and with butter is yummy. The fruit bread using a 50% mix of flour with milled wheat, is soft a lovely, like a hot cross bun texture. Hope this helps anybody else who is experimenting and new to milling wheat.
Wow--loved all this sharing. Great information. Thank you.
Thank you for a nice demonstration of the differences among the grains and their various grinds. The flavor of whole grains freshly ground is so wonderful. Thanks for another quality video!
I would like to see a video clearing up the misconceptions swirling around storage times and methods for the GF seeds and grains used for making baked goods.
1/14/23 Thank you. My wife is hypoglycemic and grains are a problem for us (her). I only have a hand grinder until I find the best electric. I use K.A. whole wheat but I purchase 50 pound bags of white, non-bromated, non-GMO, non-bleached from a local mill. I do have a separate coffee mill, LOL. God Bless and stay safe.
Yes, that makes sense. Jim
My goodness I learned so much here today.
1. I need smaller pans if using whole wheat flour.
2. I'm not grinding my wheat fine enough.
3. Had no idea I could crack my own Oats and wheat. Never gave it much thought until now.
I have the MockMill 100 and I love it. I cant compare it though, since its the only one I've owned.
In the summer, I cook the whole grain, cool and toss in a large bowl with diced fresh garden vegetables. Drizzle with olive oil and lemon juice (or vinegar of choice) salt and pepper. The added wheat makes it a really hearty salad. Top with feta or another crumbly cheese and you're all set.
Thanks so much for all the informative videos!
I await your approval of a current grain mill. I have researched, read/watched reviews and can not decide the best for me. TY! 🤗
Ive been using the Kitchen Aid Wheat Mill it works fine and does a pretty fine grind - Recently though I have been considering buying a stand alone mill - the one I am closing in on is called Mockmill 100 -
That's a wonderful Mill. You will love it.
I'm very happy with my Mockmill 100. Works fast and the product (cracked, fine flour, etc) comes out beautifully. I chose it after doing A LOT research. I've had zero issues with it and is so easy to use.
This is a great instructional video. The other day I did a binge watch on all your bread making videos and took notes of all the recipes with instructions to save for future reference. Getting ready to make my first batch of bread using the new Mock Mill. I'm going to try my hand at the long ferment. Great job Pam!
Good luck and thanks! Jim
I ordered one from Lehmens. Ya…I dropped the money but it will out live me and grandchildren. It’s hand cranked…just in case I don’t have electricity. It’s nice.
I looked hard at that one as well. My old one came with a handle for off grid, but I was lost years ago, so I need to think about that! Thanks.
I've been looking at Lehman's, too. Which one did you go with?
@@jholcomb9052 Quaker City Grain Mill with Worm Auger. Pricy, but I worked overtime for it. It’s nice, heavy and will last decades
I love that you and Jim interact! I get the feeling you have started to enjoy being retired! As you should! Thanks for helping us to make wise decisions.
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching our channel. Jim
My favorite is the Nutrimill. Small counter footprint, easy to use, makes fine flour. It costs under $300 new.
I purchased a mill for my kitchenaid mixer. I paid $100, it has 4 settings and it works great
Great information. I have a Mockmill 200 and I am very pleased with it.
I bought a nutrimill grinder based on reviews...haven't used yet but it sure is aesthetically pleasing for the counter...I also purchased a manual victorio grinder...yet to use.
I love watching your videos…it’s always like watching a science project 👍💕
Loved this demonstration/explanations. I’m very interested in your final grain mill choice. What are your thoughts on grain flakers?
I recently splurged and bought a Country Living grain mill. That is for when and if the grid goes down. I also have a Vitamix grain milling container. I have used that many times. We also have the same grains as you, Pam, stored away.
I have had my eye on that Country Living grain mill as well. But if the grid goes down, we can plug our mill into our solar generator, so I'm now thinking we don't need to buy one. But I still love how they look.
I have a mockmill and LOVE it. It has the same variability as your stone mill. You can adjust it from fine fine flour to so coarse that whole wheat kernels come though, so as coarse as you could possibly want! The only real difference is the mockmill doesn’t come with its own flour bin, but I just use a rectangular plastic container which works nicely.
Sounds great! That is actually the one I am looking at. Thanks.
@@RoseRedHomestead oh nice! In case you don’t know, the difference between the 100 and 200 is speed, the 200 is faster. The wooden models have the exact same internals as the respective white ones, just for a lot more money!
@@RoseRedHomestead oh, I should also say: the mockmill customer service people are VERY GOOD. Extremely helpful with getting the machine up and running properly
We have a Wondermill & like it very much. When we grind flour for bread, we adjust the dial 1/4” to the left of “pastry flour,” & it does a nice fine flour. Whether it’s as fine as yours, I don’t know. Also, we get our wheat from the Church Storehouse, & mix the white whole wheat and red whole wheat 1/2-1/2, and add 2 T gluten flour and 1/3 cup quick oats. Our recipe uses honey too.
Thanks you for your comments. Jim
Love my Mockmill 100. It’s not all that pretty but I still keep it on my counter so that I will use it regularly.
Thank you for that thorough explanation. This video helped me learn quite a lot!
Vita mix has a milling blade that I use when I make my flour. It does a much better job than the regular blade. It has a blunted end. I also have a 40 year old, loud, heavy, champion juicer that has a blade for milling flour. But I would really like a very convenient dedicated miller, just don’t want another thing on my counter.
This was so informative. Since I’ve been watching your grain videos I started adding them back to my menu. And also for some long term storage. Thanks Pam!
I purchased a Mockmill, and I love it. Yes, I paid just over $500 can, but I've been extremely happy with how it mills all my grains. The oat groats mill out just like the bought oatmeal. There are 10 levels depending on what you want to mill and how fine. Noise level was important to me as well, and in all my research and video watching, this was the best one. It also looks nice to leave on the counter without taking up much space.
Thank you for sharing that info. I have narrowed my choice down to two--the Mockmill 200 and the KoMo. Still researching!
I recently bought the Mockmill 200. I was previously using my Vitamix. The mockmill works much better to grind fine flour. The flour comes out of a spout on the mill and falls into your low bowel or container with no mess or dust. I also like that you can buy replacement parts. I bought an extra set of grinding stones and springs just in case. I can also use my Jackary solar generator to run the mill.
This is very helpful and so interesting. I appreciate all the extra examples of grains done in the mill or Vitamix.I have a Vitamix but I plan on getting a mill for not only our grains that we eat but I have 60 chickens and will be growing dent corn to supplement the store feed to help in the cost of feeding my chickens.
I am also looking for a grain mill. Will wait to see you results.
Wondering if using my Vita Mixer for this will wear out the motor faster.
I have been trying to gather information on grain mills, so this is very welcome. I have been drawn to the Mockmill, so I will be anxious to see which one you end up choosing. Thanks so much for all of the information you share with us.
Yes, Pam is still looking. Jim
Totally agree on switching to using home milled flour from whole grain gradually and before it may become necessary! When my husband and I switched, we started out with 1/2 unbleached commercial flour and 1/2 home milled and still had some very interesting digestive changes. For our standard bread recipe I ended up using a ratio of 1/4 commercial, 1/4 home milled barley and 1/2 home milled wheat flours. If we wanted a sweeter and more cake-like crumb (IE for buns, rolls, bagels) I'd proof the yeast in a mix of honey and warm milk and add vital wheat gluten with the flours. Unfortunately I was diagnosed over a decade later with Celiac and can no longer work with gluten-containing substances. I am still searching for a recipe someone who doesn't have my dietary restrictions would eat voluntarily, and would be very interested in hearing the results of your research on baking gluten free! I've been playing with chickpea flour for pasta and cassava for bread, but no luck yet.
Loved your segment today. I had a green mill like your white one I wore it out beyond repair. I used it for 40 plus years and I loved it!! I have replace it with a K-Tec kitchen mill. It is a great little mill, easy to operate and clean. I also purchased a heavy duty hand grinder to make cracked wheat. It does everything you can imagine. You can grind 8 cups of flour in 5 minutes. It is made in Montana .It is called a Grain Maker. It would be ideaol if we had to be with out power. The K-Tec mill is perfect for just my husband and I.
Thanks for the suggestion. we will look into it. Jim
I loved this video. I do have a question about good hand grinding mills for grid down situations. I'm wondering if you have recommendations for any of those available on the market.
We have not looked into that. We have a granite counter top, which is too thick to give us a real solid, slip-free, stable grinder without scratching the counter top. Pam will be doing a video hand crank mills. Jim
Great!
I was happy with the cuisinart grinder that attaches to my kitchenaid mixer to grin my wheat.
South Asians (India) standardly mill grais at home chapatis (tortillas, flat breads) using modern electric mills, but traditional stones are still sold domestically.
on a side note, those doing freeze drying, the new Turkish camping samovars seem a handy and cheap answer to making quick boiling water. Depending on the model, some have a small tea pot inside.
Vitammix advertises a carafe specifically for dry grains. The blades are in a different configuration than the one for liquids.
I have the Vitamix dry caraf. The flour produced is not as fine as what my Mock Mill can grind, and you cannot produce uniformly cracked grain. Also, the flour gets very hot in the Vitamix and I've heard that the high heat affects the nutrition.
I have a Mockmill. With it, I can go from roughly cracked to a super fine powder.
Wonderful information in this video! I was toying with the idea of storing those "berries", but had no idea which to buy. Thank you for this much needed info! You have greatly helped our families!
So glad the information was useful.
I have a mock mill 200. I love it!
That one is very high on my list. Thanks.
If you haven’t seen them take a look at the mock mills grinder. They are very nice and have a variety of price ranges. I have just their base level one and it’s great.
I purchased a Wondermill jr manual crank, in case of grid down situation, or with tool that fits a drill or can be motorized later, it also has the auger for nuts and making nut butters…I am going to purchase a Mockmill 100 for convenience in kitchen…love your videos Pam and Jim, take care and enjoy your retirement…
Thanks for sharing your information. Great to know. A hand crank or a way to power a regular mill is really important if the grid goes down.
I splurged for the komo fidibus classic when I decided I wanted to add whole grains to my storage. Wow, what a learning curve! I've had some hockey pucks too. My family is more inclined to eat bread if I mix. I also sift about half of what I mill. It seems to help. Thanks for the whole grain video and look forward to more since I'm still in the learning phase.
Touché! Jim
My electric mill is a KoMo Mio. I think it does as good a job grinding as commercial flour. Pleasant Hill Grain's website has videos & side by side comparisons of the various mills. I'm going to try your basic bread recipe. I like your recipes. Have you thought about storing soft white wheat? If you have access to a cow your biscuits can be a simple 2 ingredient recipe. Whipping cream biscuits. Super easy to make. Jim won't complain of hockey pucks anymore. 😄
Pam has been looking at the KoMo and very interested in it. She also thanks you for the Pleasant Hill Grain's site. Jim
Have you ever milled corn to make cornmeal?
Pam: I also started with a Wondermill and was not satisfied with the courseness of the grind even at the pastry setting on that machine. I am hoping to use it for making cornmeal. I also received a Mockmill 100 for Christmas, it is only marginally better. Mockmill's only redeeming feature is that grain can be ground more than one time. Neither of these mills will produce flour fine enough for pastry or cookies and cakes. I also like fine flour for bread baking and if I want a mill that will produce that quality of grind I am afraid I will have to invest in a professional or a much more expensive mill than I am willing to spend out for at this time.
Thanks for this information. The Mockmill was the one I was looking at.
@@RoseRedHomestead Pam: When I milled hard white winter wheat for bread flour with the Mockmill 100 I ground it twice on the finest setting and it still felt course in my fingers not at all like store bought flour. I am not sure what a Mockmill Lino is but the only other product in that manufacuturer's product line I would consider buying is their professional model for a whopping $730.00 or more. It seems to have a larger motor and many more adjustment settings. But I am not ready to go down that rabbit hole yet. I have also given consideration to sending the Mockmill 100 back for a refund, but sometimes we just have to make due with what we have.
I was wondering about the Wonder Mill you bought. I’ve got the Kitchen Aid attachment. It’s far from perfect. But until we can figure out the best bang for the buck, I’ll use this. I’m like you, invest wisely.
Hi! Love your videos! I've been watching several the last few days to gain some information about food security and baking bread. Could you please let me know where you buy your whole grains for milling? Thank you for sharing all you do. :)
Pam & Jim what a blessing you both are! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us and your sense of humor.
I’ve had a Mockmill that I purchased two years ago and have stored away grain. My question is where would I find a grain mill to use should the grid go down and no other power was available. Thank you.
Good afternoon Rose Red. I have a question that doesn’t pertain to grains but canning. I know I’m off subject. I purchased a Nesco canner for Christmas. I’m totally new to canning. I’ve used the Nesco three times and love how easy it is. 2 out of three times it only vented a few minutes and went to pressure. I called Nesco twice and they said it was ok, that the canned just reached pressure early. I’ve researched endlessly to see if anyone else has had this problem. I just wanted your opinion. I know it would only be your opinion but I trust your opinion. Thanks in advance.
Just love guys. Hello from NC mtns
Hello to you as well. Thanks for watching.
I noticed that you didnt mention sifting the flour after milling it - That is what I do - I generally will mill 4 cups then sift it 2x or 3x and it cleans it up really well - No idea the percentage but the bread comes out as good as 100% white
Yes, you are correct. Pam generally grinds the grains one time, but on occasions when she needs it finer, it will go through the grinder a second time. Jim
There are wonder mills on Ebay but they’re pricey. Thank you for this video! 🤗
I have been wanting a grain grinder for several months. Because of the cost I know I can only afford one so I am hesitant to buy because if I don’t like it I’m stuck with it. Anxiously waiting your report on the new grinder! ❤
Pam is still looking for a grain grinder that will do what she wants. I am sure she will let everyone know when she finds, buys, and uses it. Jim
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I grately enjoy listening to you and how thorough you are when explaining. I am always learning something new from you!
I wish you would have discussed the differences between the types of wheat, ie. Hard red, hard white , soft red, soft white and what the outcome would be for baking with each. (Maybe an idea for an upcoming video 😉)
Until next time, God Bless and take care!
Hi I lam new to grains I want to get grains and mills. When do you think you will know which machine you are going to get? I have been looking and I see different opinions on them. I want to make the right decision. Thank you for your help in this video.
A timely video for me! I was just beginning my search into grain mills this morning, and then up popped your video. Many were recommending the Wonder Mill Jr, and so it was one I began exploring. I would really like one that could be useful both in my home and for off grid in case shtf . I value your opinion, above most others so I am waiting for your next review video. My specific needs are for the gluten free whole grains for long term storage.
You might check out pleasanthillgrain.com They have lots of good information on the top rated grain mills. Their site is helping me make my final decision.
Oh my goodness that movie left such an impression on me!😬 thank you for the video I'm looking for a grain mill. I too want the versatility of cracked and fine. I also want a nice case😉I want to leave it on the cupboard to become part of the kitchen so it is out and not being put away to take it out all the time. I could cry, my Vitmix died last night and I will customer service today to see what happens 🤞it's just over a year old. Everyone said they were so great and are so expensive.
Check out pleasanthillgrain.com I am very impressed with all the information they have on the best grain mills. So sorry about your VitaMix--that is awful. Mine is about 20 years old so I know they do last for a long time. I hope they will replace it for you.
Pam, thank you for this information! I always learn something or many things from each video of yours I watch...you are such a wonderful teacher!
I have another suggestion for videos & books: Beans - Dried & how long they can be stored, proper storage, cooking, can they be ground in to powder after they get too hard to cook, canning & how long they will last, sprouting before cooking...hmmm, adding bean flour to bread or other baked goods, etc., etc., etc. For instance, I just read you can use the soak water to boil your beans (I have always heard you should discard it) & I thought that would be smart if water is scarce. I was then wondering if it would be okay to water plants with this water, or boil and filter it for drinking or cooking other things...
Wow--lots of questions. Beans store up to 30 years. Once they get old and hard, you can add a tsp of baking soda when cooking. I would never use the soaking water for cooking because the soaking water leaches some unpleasant compounds that get into the water, so dump it and use fresh water for cooking. I think it would be fine to water plants with it.
Another excellent educational video! Thank you
Really looking forward to your recommendation for a grain mill. In a perfect world, I would like one that can be either electric or hand cranked, and also can handle a variety of grains. I’ve unsuccessfully tried to research this several times.
Check out the information on this site--they have lots of excellent info on the top name brand mills. Their site has really helped me in my decision. pleasanthillgrain.com
Could you put nuts through one to make nut flour
When I was raising my kids I used whole wheat a lot. I bought a used grinder for a great price and ground my own flour. The kids don't like wheat bread now but they loved it then. I found I don't like store bought wheat bread either. It tastes like they add something that has an off taste. A friend gave me a hint for whole wheat bread and you might try a video of experimenting with it. She told me to use some kind of acidic liquid added to the first mixing of liquids to the flour and not to add the oil till just before it got thick. I used vinegar, I think it was 1 TBSP to 2 1/2 cups of flour. I may be wrong about that since it has been so long. Could be 2 TBSP. But it did make my loaves rise higher and be finer grained. I don't bake bread anymore since I tend to eat the whole loaf slathered with butter and I am trying to get a lot of weight off. I found one brand of wheat bread that I love but it isn't 100% whole wheat. It is lower calorie though.
I laughed out loud about your eating the whole loaf slathered with butter. I am with you in trying to get weight off! Thanks for your comment.
Thank you so much for this video!! I really appreciate it. I had never thought about oats and corn for long term storage. I have to investigate the lyme treatment for corn and also I'm interested in the rolled oats. We love watching your videos. Thank you both very much for the time and hard work!! One question. Do you have to wash the wheat? I'd read that in one place but we didn't wash ours prior to grinding. We have a kitchen aid mill attachment and it seems to work pretty good.
Unfourtunly many of us can not afford mills. So we have use what we have
I have a vita mix and not sure a grinder would be necessary for me, but I do have wheat grains to make flour. Not sure what to do. Thank you for this information. 😊
yes, you can, but it is a grainy texture. The picture (thumbnail) compares Vita Mix to her old grain mill. Jim
Can you do something on hand mills?
Yes, she will. Jim
@@RoseRedHomestead Thank you so much!
Thank you, just what we needed.
Love my Mockmill 100. Anything from very fine flour to large grain (use for cereals or for cracked toppings on my artisan bread). Not as fancy and beautiful as the Lino but the 100 works perfectly for me and actually looks nice on my countertop.
Sounds great!! Jim
Hi Pam. I have a WonderMill and am thinking about replacing it with something more convienient to use, that can stay on my countertop instead of having to go get it from the pantry every time I want to grind some grain into flour. I am thinking about a Mockmill 200 Stone Grain Mill, which costs $395. It's well made, compact and sits on the countertop, much like the one you have. I hope you will review this mill as I value your opinions very much. Thanks.
Hi Chuck. The Mockmill 200 was one of two finalists for my own mill. While I could not give it a good review unless I purchased it, I do have a website that presents solid information on the mills they sell, which are the top contenders. Here is the link and I also was able to poke around the site for more information to find out how fine of flour each one produced. I ended up not going with the Mockmill, but I do believe it is a great machine. I will get mine next week, work with it a bit, then present it on a video. pleasanthillgrain.com/resources/grain-mill-comparison-feature-review
Do you have a hand powered mill in case the power goes out
Hockey pucks, so funny & your laugh is contagious! The biscuits would be good with honey & butter & maybe a little peanut butter, yum.
Another wonderful video! This is a subject dear to my heart! I’ve been using a KoMo Classic for a over 10 years and I’m very happy with it. The flour quality is excellent, imo. Like your mill, I can dial grain coarseness for cracked wheat. Pleasant Hill Grains (based in Nebraska) sells KoMo, WonderMill, Nutri Mill, and a number of other mills. “Pleasant Hill Grain is an authorized dealer for Bosch, Ankarsrum, Kuhn Rikon, Skeppshult, Edgecraft, Berkey Purifiers, KoMo, Vitamix, Famag, Häussler, Zojirushi.” I can’t speak to their prices, not having done research for a long time. I believe their grains are more expensive than some, but they come packaged in airtight buckets ready for long term storage.
They have wonderful write ups, discussing the different grains & their properties - available free. I’m considering buying a WonderMill Junior (expensive-so saving up) to use as backup if the grid goes down. It can grind coffee & nut butters which my KoMo can not. Personally, if I can afford it, I try to avoid plastic as much as I can. They claim, that the wood mills will last longer than plastic mills - something to take with a grain of salt, but at least it not made of petroleum. Mine looks and works just as good after 10 years of much use as it did when brand new.
Thanks for the wonderful information. Pam was up on this site today and is very impressed. Jim
What is the name of your grain mill you have had for so long?
My brain mill is a hand cranking found on Amazon. And I to grew up chewing on wheat from the field. But where do you get the raw seeds ?
Keep the videos coming!
Thank you so much for helping with this fantastic information 💘
You are welcome.