Same; it's very humanizing to see how similar we are in terms of scientific discovery, investing in our future generations, and generally holding curiosity beyond our planet. Too bad there's so much competition between us; else we'd be light years ahead already.
@@sebastianashbury2478 Competition is a good thing. It motivates all who are involved. For example, had the US not competed with the Soviet Russian communists, we never would have landed men on the Moon. And the Chinese, traditionally, never cared much for scientific (research) and discovery,** until, after Europeans invented the Scientific Method, and the Chinese saw how powerful a tool it is. **Despite inventing paper, toilet paper, gun powder, and other things. They used gun powder for fireworks. Europeans used it for warfare. One can argue that that makes Europeans 'bad', but can also argue that it makes the Chinese, 'stupid'. (Or at least insular and arrogant.)
@0:14 "in the same way that landing on the moon kicked off a space race in the 1960s". I think most would agree that sputnik hitting orbit was what kicked off the space race, and it was in the 50s. Once American boots hit the lunar surface, that pretty much ended the space race. The US kept it up for awhile, but the soviets were like "okay now that we're this far behind we're not interested anymore" and packed up.
The Soviets stopped trying to reach the Moon but continued other ground breaking space exploration. The Venus probes continued until 1983, long after Apollo ended. All we know about ground-level conditions on Venus comes from those amazing probes, including pictures and even sounds. So the Soviets continued at what they were good at doing. As China charges ahead in space exploration we may see the USA continue on a similar basis to that. They are very good at some things. The Chinese may be good at other things.
@@TuRmIx96 Their Mars achievements are amazing. China will probably catch up there but not for a few years at least. The New Horizons Pluto mission was outstanding and then they went on to study Arrokoth and may not be finished yet. The double orbiting mission of Vesta and Ceres out past Mars was another remarkable achievement. Will all this achievement continue? Others may take over the main challenges now.
They are not even able to land their astronauts on the moon which we did over half a century ago and compared to sending people to explore Mars that is extremely easy and cheap. I am not holding my breath on them succeeding.
China's mars colony will be a Chinese takeout restaurant in Musktropolis called the Wok N' Roll. It's proprietors the Yang family will be oblivious to the obvious pun the name of their restaurant elicits. They will also not be happy about giving away fortune cookies in people's orders, but will do so anyhow because American immigrants that make up most of the population expect it.
Just think what Humanity could do if all Countries just stopped all the hatred towards each other and came together in peace to accomplish this Mars Colonization together. Humanity could be there easily in a few years working together for the betterment of ALL Humanity.
That will happen eventually. Maybe long after Mars, but it will. Humanity will upend and leave the old ways and inherent contradictions of Capitalism behind. Then, we will come together not bound by national borders, pesky conflicts or the obsession for profit, and we will acchieve things never seen before, together.
In order for peace to be achieved, we would need to get rid of anything that divides us into tribes like politics, religion, capitalism, and nationalism.
No colony will ever have that kind of wasted space. The locker room was 3+ times bigger than similar rooms on Earth. It will be more like the ISS. Stuffed to the brim and claustrophobic. Every kilo costs a fortune. And mining and creating heavy industry on Mars is 100s of years away. Living that far from Earth with be akin to a nightmare. The slightest trouble could easily spell disaster. No matter what countries are involved. A final thought may the the ultimate limiter: cost. ANd not just cost, but cost with no possibility of any kind of return any time soon. I'm guessing multi-trillions just to set up a very small, decent and safe colony.
The "elephant in the room" so few people address is GRAVITY DEPRIVATION. We evolved in 4.5 billion years of Earth (1G) gravity and Mars has barely more than a third Earth gravity. Very low gravity ruins human health. Even if you solved every other problem the low gravity will ruin human health. Bones and internal organs get very weird over time when gravity is too low. Zero G is even more damaging.
They will have to give them some space, otherwise that will be a long two years between rotation and i cant imagine living that tightly and maintaining some sanity and scientific progress. I agree with you though. Cost will be the big one and even if Elon uses all his own money it wont be enough to sustain anything. However, he has access to the Treasury now so maybe he will just print off a couple Tril and call it for 'national security' or some other excuse.
The "elephant in the room" so few people address is GRAVITY DEPRIVATION. We evolved in 4.5 billion years of Earth (1G) gravity and Mars has barely more than a third Earth gravity. Very low gravity ruins human health. Even if you solved every other problem the low gravity will ruin human health. Bones and internal organs get very weird over time when gravity is too low. Zero G is even more damaging.
Don't worry, they will cut the costs halfway through the program and stop following the dream. Just like with any other costly program. Mars sample return? Collect the samples and then? Cut the cost and forget it. Money thrown out the window by cutting costs after half of it is done... Why... You can do better than that.
NCC-1701D was built in an orbiting shipyard above Mars named after Utopia Planitia. The Utopia Planitia facility had installations on the surface of Mars and in orbit.
I guess it's my fault that I was expecting this video to contain some actual details about a colony on Mars (for example, how deep the living quarters would be under the surface to protect inhabitants for the radiation, etc.). Insted, it's full of rumors, rarely confirmed tidbits, and general trivia.
That's all we really have right now. The CCP is the CCP, they'll overpromise and also hide everything, Tiangong and their moon missions show they're pretty serious.
I think you're underestimating the comfiness of chinese martian outposts considering the difference bw the Tiangong vs the ISS's. The chinese station has a mich better menu and looks much cozier.
Tiangong is new and much more technically modern. The ISS is basically an old mostly Soviet design expanded and upgraded. Tiangong is based on the same principles but thoroughly modernised.
I think it is worth noting that Mr. Robert Zurbin is the real visionary on colonizing Mars. In a hundred years, when we manage estsblished a permanent self sustained out post then look back on Mr. Zurbin's work, we will realize we can achived this goal few decade early if we take his work serious.
Bob Zubrin is a really smart man. But he's deluded when it comes to landing people on Mars, "no matter what". It's nonsense. Anyone who thinks they want to live, forever or even indefinitely on Mars, will have a quick change of mind after just a few weeks on the Dead Planet. (Or even just a few Martian days.)
Zubrin's 'plan', where he planned to send people to Mars with *no* redundancy in his vehicle, a decision he made for no other reason than artificially lowering the final price tag? I asked him about risking people's lives to save a few bucks, and how he'd explain a crew dying to 'save' money, and he wasn't bothered by it a bit. Quite the opposite, he saw such a tragedy as a way to raise *more* money. F Zubrin, and his 'plan' too.
@@novatheredwitch1573 It will never happen. Construction is exceedingly difficult here on earth, in ideal conditions surrounded by resources. It is much, much harder than that in a spacesuit. Everyone will be dead in a week.
Sending humans to mars needs there to be all the cargo they need to survive already on Mars, and a return ship (and spare) fueled up and ready to go, by the time the humans get there. I don't see that happening by 2033 o.o
why even? We still have Antarctica... funny everyone says it's inhospitable yet the moon or mars is 1000x more. There is enough oil and gold there to start a settlement... maybe it's because life would be bleak.
wow, I am surprised they plan on going to Mars so quickly. Previously there goal was to get humans there by 2050. This is a massively accelerated schedule.
I wish them well, its nice to see how they matured and really took space expansion seriously, while some other countries still think about conquering or buying terrestrial lands, at least spacex is doing some in a right way
Look at his previous videos and his attitude , or he is dam biased or its a usual anti China propaganda. Im telling not because i defend Cn but because angry biased people like Piers Morgan annoying the hell out of me.
Great video, thanks Sean. Glad you mentioned Nuclear Thermal Propulsion, which will cut down Earth-Mars travel times considerably, possible making a single voyage in only 2 months, rather than 7 or 8 months. Especially if NTP and / or NEP, are combined with the use of a Solar Sail as additional propulsion. Setting up a Mars Orbital Space Station will be one of the first priorities. Please make another video, with more possible details and options for propulsion methods and logistics. Thanks again.
Similar to The Pioneers heading out West in search of Land and Riches, it was absolutely difficult and extremely dangerous. Many people died from injuries, starvation, Indians and just plain stupidity, but it didn't stop the colonization of the west and soon it begun to flourish and The Rush was on!
There is an error in your view, Elon Must is an individual with a Space company, this is not the USA. China, is the country! ... ;-) If the USA, through NASA wants to go to Mars, they'll have to buy some services or build something. The USA has SLS and its versions at the moment and no extended Mars program (yet).
Of all the obstacles to overcome in order to live on mars, the look of the habitat is probably the least of the problems... Which seems to be all they have done and even that is only skin deep, like a good Hollywood movie set.
Establishing a habitat on mars is easier than moon from techhnical prospective. You can build a steel kill on it if you want to, with our existing technology. We just need to develop a hydrogen base refinery process. We always think it is difficult, thr difficult part is the logistic to provide the kick start resource
One "obstacle" nobody wants to address is that we evolved for Earth gravity (1G) and the human body can adapt to small changes. I do not think humans in the Avatar movies will suffer too many health problems on Pandora (approximately 80 percent Earth gravity) but Mars has less than half of that gravity, and barely more than a third of Earth. Being deprived of gravity over time ruins human health. Zero G is even worse but I believe that Mars has way too little gravity for good human health. Even if every problem other than the low gravity issue was solved perfectly the low gravity all by itself over time will destroy the health of people there.
I wonder what the end goals will be for not just China, but for the US, when it comes to space. So far, we can barely make it to the Moon, let alone Mars. But lets just say we finally make it to Mars, are both the US and China going to build colonies on the planet? For what purpose? If colonies do start getting built, will these colonies eventually break off from Earth and will want to governor themselves? We currently have no technology that can reach another solar system, and who knows, maybe we never will. Maybe, we'll be stuck in our solar system forever. The future of space is both exciting, but also depressing because there's really not much out there. Unless, we finally figure out a way to get to another solar system fast.
Many centuries ago in Europe royalty stayed in their castles where they could be safe and pampered and sent poor people in ships to other parts of the Earth (like Chris Columbus). It was the poor that had "adventures" back then because it was rough and dangerous. I already saw Elon admit in an interview that he is sending others to Mars and himself staying on Earth.
@Zurround that's basic survival instincts, lol, would you eat a pack of M&M's if one was poisoned? No. But if you got $10,000,000 for finishing the pack, you'll probably get someone else to eat the pack, they suffer all the consequences, you reap all the rewards.
Why do you think so? We'll see. But even if they are, 'kicking our butts', who cares? Mars is, at its closest, 35 Million miles away. I wouldn't overestimate China's capabilities. China has ONE aircraft carrier, and they're having serious problems with its capabilities and promised functions, and it does not compare to the US's Gerald R. Ford class carriers, and we have 11 aircraft carriers and associated battle groups supporting those carriers, although not yet all Ford class. China is not as great as you think, and they have some serious problems of their own.
@@snarkymoosesshack8793 Will you guys ever understand the irony of deploying this vapid, debunked propaganda any time someone discusses China? The US won't even give you a pat on the head for posting this cringe.
@@samr.england613 China has three aircraft carriers and is set to have two more this year. And what do you mean China has ‘serious problems of its own’? Of course, they do, every country does. Do you think the U.S. is just sitting back and relaxing? The U.S. has far more severe problems than China ever will. And let’s not forget, America is a war criminal. Oh, you don’t agree? Take a look at the wars happening around the world. Who started them? The U.S. and its Western allies. China? What wars has China started? What chaos has China caused? Let me guess, you’re thinking about Taiwan and the South China Sea? Taiwan has always been part of China, and reunification is inevitable, not through war but by rightful force if necessary. As for the South China Sea, China is conducting research, not creating chaos. Why are you so quick to underestimate China? Oh, right you’re a Westerner, conditioned by Western propaganda. Keep living under the illusion that the West, especially the U.S., is a peacemaker. It’s laughable. The U.S. is obsessed with competition, creating chaos, waging wars, deceiving people, and lacking basic humanity. But of course, you’ll never admit that. It’s in your culture, after all. So go ahead stay under Western influence, and let’s see where it gets you. Just don’t be surprised when you meet your early end. 😉
I sure wish we could cooperate on these missions. How far could we as a species go if we spent our resources on exploring space rather than fighting each other?
Without any progress in rocket technology with what we have today, the journey to Mars will take too long, 7 months to Mars, but if the planets are aligned, the return is only possible in three years, current estimates are that we can only expect human missions to Mars in the middle of 2030
I love watching the Mars videos, but please elon yapping about Mars has not been for years, don't think 2002 is for years. We are still very much early!
SpaceX will be all over Mars by then…to think SpaceX doesn’t have a working plan is hilarious. However, we need a thermonuclear catapult/tugboat for Earth-to-Mars-to-Earth transport of Starship heavy or any other payload.
12 Chinamen on Mars alongside a self-sustaining city of 1m people is hardly competition. That tiny outpost will be abandoned as soon as Elon has dropped 1000 Tesla bots on Mars.
12 Chinese on Mars (more likely 4 to 6) is a realistic possibility for which the technology exists now. Musk's imaginary million is an impossibility for the medium future though it might become possible in a century or two. My guess, having watched the whole space race since the beginning and kept up with the technical developments, is that small mainly research oriented settlements may be developed on the Moon and later on Mars. Looking at present US struggles I suspect that China will lead that process.
@@rais1953 This channel is extremely biased towards Musk as being the leader of a Mars colony. He's a CEO selling big dreams, and I'm sure he himself knows how impractical it all is. The truth of the matter is NASA wants a base too similar to China far before whatever Musk is talking about.
@@lemont64 "if America gave away it's entire military let's see if they're still powerful" 💀 elons powerful because of his companies and their significance to the government, no company, no significance lol
Understand, a lot of us are just no longer excited about SpaceX or Mars for perfectly reasonable, uh, reasons. I understand you have a channel to run. Best of luck reporting this without the sideshow
I think the Astronauts of the US and the Tekonauts of China are interested in space travel to Mars, but not at all interested in the possibility of death or failure in the attempt.
China is preparing for Mars colonization with two prototype bases and plans for robotic and crewed missions. Their focus is on scientific research, with a timeline for sending astronauts by 2033 and establishing a long-term presence through multiple missions.
China is certainly a country serious about exploring Mars. Having two base station mock-ups to stoke the imagination of kids is super smart. The sixties space race stoked the imagination of American kids (like me). What do we have today that’s anything close? Maybe Tomorrowland attractions at Disney Theme Parks? That’s certainly fun, then off to the Jungle Cruise. Wouldn’t it be great to have truly themed Mars bases in America in, say, the Arizona painted desert? Space camp is good. Mars camp would be better!
America mainly Musk talking about going to Mars but how much money and investments have been put into stuff like China has? Where is the American version of this video, it is all talk, nothing has materialized. China looks serious and America & Musk are just financial talk.
Well, Musk is not a scientist or head of NASA. He "only" owns company that build rockets, rockets that are far more advance that anything that Chinese have and will have for a long time and Trump is just few weeks in the office. 😂
In order to sustain harsh life on Mars, first step actually is to develop new material for lunar base,then it's not difficult to have "upgraded material" for Mars base… I think meteorite actually can be good material but there are too few of them for industrial use, so more answers can be found in active volcano sites : not only these can be the test sites for Advance material(to endure high temperature), but mining the crust hold lava maybe is also important for new material(but miners need to control mech like machine to avoid danger) Anyway,I'm not saying "China needs active volcano just like Russia needs sea port",but due to increasing geopolitical tension, China maybe will eventually to develop Japan's North islands(currently occupied by Russia ), but of course this economics development need negotiation with Russia and Japan… But consider China's port city Dalian is building biggest man made island airport(it'a ironic Japan colonized the city before), Japan'a north island will become focus,and since Russia lost control of black sea,they will put their eyes to the east,hmm
I don't think Elon wants to have Mars all for himself, I think he'll be happy to have others try. Infact I believe his mission is built on the fact that NASA or anybody in the early 2000s had no plans, whatsoever, for manned Mars missions.
Hopefully Elon is working on a nuclear-powered tunnel, boring machine. long-term survival on Mars will depend on subterranean habitats protected from both meteor strikes and radiation.
(07:33) China's long-term Mars plan is intense-multiple missions, a cargo fleet, and nuclear propulsion! This isn't just about planting a flag; they're in it for serious research and exploration.🚀🔴
What a wonderful idea, and most likely China will dominate the space market. Poorer countries won't have the tech, wealthier countries the tech will be unaffordable, so everyone will eventually turn towards China. And deep mars habitats closer to the core will get the inhabitants closer to water sources, the deeper will also increase available heat sources mitigating power consumption, the closer to the core will also mitigate atmosphere pressure. All making human habitation more realistic.
Extra info on so called patriotic educational bases, those are more or less scientific/historical museums to provide "more educational" things to do for the teens, usually in the form of school organized field trips or such. None of that is really mandatory or try to drill in any patriotic stuff, nor do they try. About 1/3 of them are nothing more then sight seeing, about 1/3 of them just show you the history of China and remind you of the horrifying alternative such as what if IJN's biochemical warfare was never stopped, what if WWII was lost, what if the Opium war led to full on colonization and so on. The rest are the sciency ones, they are generally more fun, I visited nuclear plant (did go inside, it's pretty cool) in my home city, went to science museums and some others I couldn't really recall. TLDR: they are museums, in almost every way possible
A Mars colony would be a stretch for any one nation. I think this may be an impressive plan, but the problems are daunting. Logistics support will be incredibly difficult. And trying to make EVERYTHING on Mars and survive will be so difficult. And with an imminent real estate and banking collapse on the horizon for China, followed by a demographic collapse, this may not be as successful as they imagine. And Elon Musk is an unrealistic 9 year old. His energy and determination to browbeat others into making his 9 year old vision come true has revitalized the American efforts. But his unwillingness to accept the dangers posed by radiation, and his apparent belief that building the rockets is enough to make the enterprise successful, shows me he has been taking too much meth or something. There is an even larger technology base of assets that need to be designed and built than we needed for Apollo, and that required 400,000 engineers and many contractors. The power requirements and time necessary to fuel the return trip for ONE STARSHIP exceed the time alloted for the return window. The Zubrin plan was better. He would not even send the astronauts to Mars unless the return ship was already refueled. And his ships were small and required but a fraction of the fuel for a fully loaded Starship.
The one thing I don't hear is how they are going to solve the basic problem. Oxygen and water for the long term? No one has, as far as I know, invented a machine that can create or filter out oxygen from the Martian atmosphere? Or how do they plan to extract water out of the Martian soil? We also need to remember what may seem like pure scientific research by them has an underlying motive of profiting from natural Martian resources to be sold and used on Earth and in space. The point is don't take what anyone says at face value.
The human body needs gravity that is reasonably close to Earth gravity. We evolved for 4.5 billion years for 1G of gravity and Mars has barely more than one third Earth gravity. Very low gravity over long time ruins human health. Bones shrink and the internal organs get distorted from it. I call it "gravity deprivation".
it's not Elon Musk's department per say to colonize, or even send scientists to mars. I'd assume NASA would fill in the gap until an appropriate organization forms.
At least this time we'll have lots of documented footage from technology much further advanced than the 60s; though there'll always be doubters unless they can experience it for themselves.
See, if China can stop trying to compete with our space companies. Then what they can do is, get the research and science, then give is the information so that we can be prepared for what's going to be on Mars. Afterwards, Elon Musk would send a couple of practice landing missions, then send people there with another starship full of base material and supplies that follow the crew ship, until they land on Mars.
India's ISRO operates on shoestring funding. They've landed on the Moon, which was amazing, and their first and only attempt to put a satellite around Mars was successful.
Well, with all their stolen tech, they most likely will not make it. If your worried, go look at their really awesome robots that are 15 years behind boston dynamics yet shown off as cutting edge tech.
If they can get starship to mars, they could send anything, heavy payload to there. I think somewhere within the next 10-15 years there will be a mars station. It will probably start small, with a 5-10 people crew, and 50-100m² of area. Then it will slpwly be expanded throughout the years. It will be very fun to see it in our lifetime.
@@dhc4186 We don't _have_ to, but it would be a very good idea to focus on lunar development first and use both the lessons learned and industrial capabilities of that colony to go to mars in a better, more sustainable way.
@ I was 13 when they landed on the moon the first time and I am turning 69 at the end of the month. I think I will see a moon base established in my life time, but not a base on Mars (probably my sons or grandsons will see that accomplishment). Meanwhile, I am experiencing Mars by reading the excellent Colony One series by Gerald M. Kilby! Take care.
You CANNOT LIVE ON MARS. There is no electromagnetic field to protect you from solar radiation because Mars does not have a molten iron core, like Earth. 😂
In China, the Chinese people don’t understand the meaning of ‘cannot.’ They always work hard and find ways to achieve their dreams. Unlike the West, which is obsessed with competing, creating chaos, waging wars, deceiving people, and lacking humanity.
People who hate china.. Keep living under Western influence, Western lies, and Western propaganda. You have no future if you continue to follow the West. People like you shouldn’t exist in this world. You know nothing but the falsehoods spread by the West, which thrives on deception, war, chaos, and a lack of humanity. The West teaches you that China is bad, but what a fool you are to believe them. You’ve been completely deceived. You haven’t seen the real China because you refuse to embrace Eastern, especially Chinese, influence. It’s your choice, keep living under Western influence, and you’ll meet an early end. Goodbye. 😉
Elon musk never thought Mars colonization was possible. Musk uses inspiration to get people exited to work for him long hours with bad pay. musk missuses it to make his companies grow. If it where other wise than Musk would have invested money into the Mars project a long time ago. Mars colonization needs Living space and industry that has to be developed on earth. But Musk never invested a cent into Mars colonization. And to develope this after the transportation problem is solved is not possible. It takes at least as long to solve the transportation problem as to develope the industries necessary to colonize mars. If Musk was serious about colonizing Mars than Musk would have invested over 100 Billion already in to develope the tools necessary to colonize Mars. To develope the tools will take now another 20 years! Musk knows this. Musk is a liar and a egomaniac.
LoL Gansu is a heavenly wonderland compared to the frozen, airless radioactive hellscape that is Mars! Send robots to terraform, then send hunans in 10,000 years.
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I never doubted China's resolve or technical abilities, but that black monolith shocked me. I really appreciate the unexpected lighter side.
Same; it's very humanizing to see how similar we are in terms of scientific discovery, investing in our future generations, and generally holding curiosity beyond our planet. Too bad there's so much competition between us; else we'd be light years ahead already.
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@@sebastianashbury2478 We are all cousins just few thousand generations apart
Their, 'resolve' is government dictated. That is their strength, but it's also their weakness.
@@sebastianashbury2478 Competition is a good thing. It motivates all who are involved. For example, had the US not competed with the Soviet Russian communists, we never would have landed men on the Moon. And the Chinese, traditionally, never cared much for scientific (research) and discovery,** until, after Europeans invented the Scientific Method, and the Chinese saw how powerful a tool it is. **Despite inventing paper, toilet paper, gun powder, and other things. They used gun powder for fireworks. Europeans used it for warfare. One can argue that that makes Europeans 'bad', but can also argue that it makes the Chinese, 'stupid'. (Or at least insular and arrogant.)
@0:14 "in the same way that landing on the moon kicked off a space race in the 1960s". I think most would agree that sputnik hitting orbit was what kicked off the space race, and it was in the 50s. Once American boots hit the lunar surface, that pretty much ended the space race. The US kept it up for awhile, but the soviets were like "okay now that we're this far behind we're not interested anymore" and packed up.
The Soviets stopped trying to reach the Moon but continued other ground breaking space exploration. The Venus probes continued until 1983, long after Apollo ended. All we know about ground-level conditions on Venus comes from those amazing probes, including pictures and even sounds. So the Soviets continued at what they were good at doing. As China charges ahead in space exploration we may see the USA continue on a similar basis to that. They are very good at some things. The Chinese may be good at other things.
Lost in every race in the spacerace beside moon landing. Americans: WE WON!!!!!WOOOO USA USA USA!!!
@@TuRmIx96 Their Mars achievements are amazing. China will probably catch up there but not for a few years at least. The New Horizons Pluto mission was outstanding and then they went on to study Arrokoth and may not be finished yet. The double orbiting mission of Vesta and Ceres out past Mars was another remarkable achievement. Will all this achievement continue? Others may take over the main challenges now.
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China seems pretty serious about that.
What a time to be alive.
youre funny. China can't even copy technology well. They are not innovators. Thats why they want Taiwan so badly.
Copycat dictatorship nonsense.
@@manuwilson4695They still managed to build their own space station.
@amentco8445 Sure...using stolen information from the West, as usual.
They are not even able to land their astronauts on the moon which we did over half a century ago and compared to sending people to explore Mars that is extremely easy and cheap. I am not holding my breath on them succeeding.
The US won't have to bring food to Mars because they will be able to order out gor Chinese food
Ok, what will be payment method? WeChat pay or AliPay? Maybe google pay or ApplePay will bother to send terminal over?
China's mars colony will be a Chinese takeout restaurant in Musktropolis called the Wok N' Roll. It's proprietors the Yang family will be oblivious to the obvious pun the name of their restaurant elicits. They will also not be happy about giving away fortune cookies in people's orders, but will do so anyhow because American immigrants that make up most of the population expect it.
@@林振华-t4v (forgive me if this sounds rude or mean, that's not my intention) silver of course.
Another base there might have beriyani.
Babylon 5 had the best description of Mars colony.
How was Mars?
Oh you know, cold dirty cramped so same old same old.
And also total fiction.
@@samr.england613Yes, Babylon 5 was indeed fictional, you are observant.
Then it must be, spacious, clean & warm.
Just think what Humanity could do if all Countries just stopped all the hatred towards each other and came together in peace to accomplish this Mars Colonization together. Humanity could be there easily in a few years working together for the betterment of ALL Humanity.
With no competition, there would be nothing accomplished that fast
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That will happen eventually. Maybe long after Mars, but it will. Humanity will upend and leave the old ways and inherent contradictions of Capitalism behind. Then, we will come together not bound by national borders, pesky conflicts or the obsession for profit, and we will acchieve things never seen before, together.
Religion has outlived its purpose. With it, we will always be divided.
In order for peace to be achieved, we would need to get rid of anything that divides us into tribes like politics, religion, capitalism, and nationalism.
@vinialves7062 Maybe is this statement a bit optimistic.
Let's hope and try anyway.
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Ad Astra!
No colony will ever have that kind of wasted space. The locker room was 3+ times bigger than similar rooms on Earth. It will be more like the ISS. Stuffed to the brim and claustrophobic. Every kilo costs a fortune. And mining and creating heavy industry on Mars is 100s of years away.
Living that far from Earth with be akin to a nightmare. The slightest trouble could easily spell disaster. No matter what countries are involved.
A final thought may the the ultimate limiter: cost. ANd not just cost, but cost with no possibility of any kind of return any time soon. I'm guessing multi-trillions just to set up a very small, decent and safe colony.
The "elephant in the room" so few people address is GRAVITY DEPRIVATION. We evolved in 4.5 billion years of Earth (1G) gravity and Mars has barely more than a third Earth gravity. Very low gravity ruins human health. Even if you solved every other problem the low gravity will ruin human health. Bones and internal organs get very weird over time when gravity is too low. Zero G is even more damaging.
They will have to give them some space, otherwise that will be a long two years between rotation and i cant imagine living that tightly and maintaining some sanity and scientific progress. I agree with you though. Cost will be the big one and even if Elon uses all his own money it wont be enough to sustain anything. However, he has access to the Treasury now so maybe he will just print off a couple Tril and call it for 'national security' or some other excuse.
The "elephant in the room" so few people address is GRAVITY DEPRIVATION. We evolved in 4.5 billion years of Earth (1G) gravity and Mars has barely more than a third Earth gravity. Very low gravity ruins human health. Even if you solved every other problem the low gravity will ruin human health. Bones and internal organs get very weird over time when gravity is too low. Zero G is even more damaging.
Don't worry, they will cut the costs halfway through the program and stop following the dream.
Just like with any other costly program. Mars sample return? Collect the samples and then? Cut the cost and forget it. Money thrown out the window by cutting costs after half of it is done...
Why...
You can do better than that.
That's pronounced Utopia PLANEESHEA, and it's where the NCC-1701D Enterprise will be built lol
Hopefully in 300 years the synths won't get hacked by Romulans and set Mars on fire :P
One can but hope that is our future.
Thank you. I knew some other Trek fans would not let that pass.
NCC-1701D was built in an orbiting shipyard above Mars named after Utopia Planitia. The Utopia Planitia facility had installations on the surface of Mars and in orbit.
Loved the monolith touch. Great presentation and production.
I guess it's my fault that I was expecting this video to contain some actual details about a colony on Mars (for example, how deep the living quarters would be under the surface to protect inhabitants for the radiation, etc.). Insted, it's full of rumors, rarely confirmed tidbits, and general trivia.
This is a CCP propaganda channel
That's all we really have right now. The CCP is the CCP, they'll overpromise and also hide everything, Tiangong and their moon missions show they're pretty serious.
@@djunior874 Dude, this channel talks about good things the US does too. It's not a propaganda channel.
People like you are why the united states will ultimately be left behind@@djunior874
It's too early to know any details. Even the people who are actually working on it must still be exploring all the possible technologies.
I think you're underestimating the comfiness of chinese martian outposts considering the difference bw the Tiangong vs the ISS's. The chinese station has a mich better menu and looks much cozier.
OH hell yeah... I'm pretty hard on China's space program, but I'll bet Tiangong's Tyiconuaghts are eating way better than anyone else in space.
@THX..1138 food is pretty yummy and important after all! Good food counts for a lot in harsh environments.
Tiangong is new and much more technically modern. The ISS is basically an old mostly Soviet design expanded and upgraded. Tiangong is based on the same principles but thoroughly modernised.
Lol check interior volume of both, who wants coziness if you are trapped inside😅
I think it is worth noting that Mr. Robert Zurbin is the real visionary on colonizing Mars. In a hundred years, when we manage estsblished a permanent self sustained out post then look back on Mr. Zurbin's work, we will realize we can achived this goal few decade early if we take his work serious.
Bob Zubrin is a really smart man. But he's deluded when it comes to landing people on Mars, "no matter what". It's nonsense. Anyone who thinks they want to live, forever or even indefinitely on Mars, will have a quick change of mind after just a few weeks on the Dead Planet. (Or even just a few Martian days.)
Zubrin's 'plan', where he planned to send people to Mars with *no* redundancy in his vehicle, a decision he made for no other reason than artificially lowering the final price tag? I asked him about risking people's lives to save a few bucks, and how he'd explain a crew dying to 'save' money, and he wasn't bothered by it a bit. Quite the opposite, he saw such a tragedy as a way to raise *more* money. F Zubrin, and his 'plan' too.
I just always wondered how they will get all those building parts or modules to Mars.
have to find some way to build them with regolith soil
@@jacobl5488 Indeed - Will have to send some 3D printers and basically an automated forge and mining equipment ahead of time.
Robots, 3d printers, and resources from Mars.
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It will never happen. Construction is exceedingly difficult here on earth, in ideal conditions surrounded by resources. It is much, much harder than that in a spacesuit. Everyone will be dead in a week.
Well, at least the Chinese are considering a Mars cycler. I believe that a cycler is an essential part of any Mars colonization program.
Cannot wait for this next age of space exploration, let's go go go!
Love the vids 😍
Me to
Sending humans to mars needs there to be all the cargo they need to survive already on Mars, and a return ship (and spare) fueled up and ready to go, by the time the humans get there. I don't see that happening by 2033 o.o
Let's hope we'll be surprised
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China never fails their dreams.
You could interpret 2033 as the year the Mars program was launched
why even? We still have Antarctica... funny everyone says it's inhospitable yet the moon or mars is 1000x more. There is enough oil and gold there to start a settlement... maybe it's because life would be bleak.
From my experience the Chinese work fast. Just look at how fast they come out with new EV models every 8 month versus us every 4 years.
I doubt a permanent colony by any country will be achieved in my lifetime.
You must be old.
This is another great video! New information that isn't being well covered by other space commentators !
wow, I am surprised they plan on going to Mars so quickly. Previously there goal was to get humans there by 2050. This is a massively accelerated schedule.
I wish them well, its nice to see how they matured and really took space expansion seriously, while some other countries still think about conquering or buying terrestrial lands, at least spacex is doing some in a right way
Best channel on RUclips! Point blank!!
Look at his previous videos and his attitude , or he is dam biased or its a usual anti China propaganda.
Im telling not because i defend Cn but because angry biased people like Piers Morgan annoying the hell out of me.
Great video, thanks Sean. Glad you mentioned Nuclear Thermal Propulsion, which will cut down Earth-Mars travel times considerably, possible making a single voyage in only 2 months, rather than 7 or 8 months. Especially if NTP and / or NEP, are combined with the use of a Solar Sail as additional propulsion. Setting up a Mars Orbital Space Station will be one of the first priorities. Please make another video, with more possible details and options for propulsion methods and logistics. Thanks again.
Similar to The Pioneers heading out West in search of Land and Riches, it was absolutely difficult and extremely dangerous. Many people died from injuries, starvation, Indians and just plain stupidity, but it didn't stop the colonization of the west and soon it begun to flourish and The Rush was on!
The first man on the Moon was
English speaking, the first man
on the Mars may be Putonghua
speaking.
There is an error in your view, Elon Must is an individual with a Space company, this is not the USA. China, is the country! ... ;-)
If the USA, through NASA wants to go to Mars, they'll have to buy some services or build something. The USA has SLS and its versions at the moment and no extended Mars program (yet).
Of all the obstacles to overcome in order to live on mars, the look of the habitat is probably the least of the problems... Which seems to be all they have done and even that is only skin deep, like a good Hollywood movie set.
Establishing a habitat on mars is easier than moon from techhnical prospective. You can build a steel kill on it if you want to, with our existing technology. We just need to develop a hydrogen base refinery process. We always think it is difficult, thr difficult part is the logistic to provide the kick start resource
One "obstacle" nobody wants to address is that we evolved for Earth gravity (1G) and the human body can adapt to small changes. I do not think humans in the Avatar movies will suffer too many health problems on Pandora (approximately 80 percent Earth gravity) but Mars has less than half of that gravity, and barely more than a third of Earth. Being deprived of gravity over time ruins human health. Zero G is even worse but I believe that Mars has way too little gravity for good human health. Even if every problem other than the low gravity issue was solved perfectly the low gravity all by itself over time will destroy the health of people there.
I wonder what the end goals will be for not just China, but for the US, when it comes to space. So far, we can barely make it to the Moon, let alone Mars. But lets just say we finally make it to Mars, are both the US and China going to build colonies on the planet? For what purpose? If colonies do start getting built, will these colonies eventually break off from Earth and will want to governor themselves? We currently have no technology that can reach another solar system, and who knows, maybe we never will. Maybe, we'll be stuck in our solar system forever. The future of space is both exciting, but also depressing because there's really not much out there. Unless, we finally figure out a way to get to another solar system fast.
What should be talked about is what's it's like floating alone from humanity in space months and months through everything out there .
guess we need to design and build ray guns to protect our turf from enemies
I believe we should have a Mars colony, send Elon musk, and his billionaire buddies there and leave them!
Tell Trump there is a cheese burger at the back of the Starship and then light the engines.
@@Dhdjdndndnndndjdjd If they come back after 20 years they'll be malnourished, probably sick and hanging out for a decent meal.
Many centuries ago in Europe royalty stayed in their castles where they could be safe and pampered and sent poor people in ships to other parts of the Earth (like Chris Columbus). It was the poor that had "adventures" back then because it was rough and dangerous. I already saw Elon admit in an interview that he is sending others to Mars and himself staying on Earth.
@Zurround that's basic survival instincts, lol, would you eat a pack of M&M's if one was poisoned? No. But if you got $10,000,000 for finishing the pack, you'll probably get someone else to eat the pack, they suffer all the consequences, you reap all the rewards.
Mars would win with people like you here.
Thank you Elon Musk and Team SpaceX for re-igniting interest in space exploration! Hope I to see Mars colonies in my lifetime.
Basically, China is kicking our butts in the Mars race.
Well they guy leading the charge on our side is addicted to ketamine and cosplays as an engineer sooooooo
Why do you think so? We'll see. But even if they are, 'kicking our butts', who cares? Mars is, at its closest, 35 Million miles away. I wouldn't overestimate China's capabilities. China has ONE aircraft carrier, and they're having serious problems with its capabilities and promised functions, and it does not compare to the US's Gerald R. Ford class carriers, and we have 11 aircraft carriers and associated battle groups supporting those carriers, although not yet all Ford class. China is not as great as you think, and they have some serious problems of their own.
+100 Social Credit!
@@snarkymoosesshack8793 Will you guys ever understand the irony of deploying this vapid, debunked propaganda any time someone discusses China? The US won't even give you a pat on the head for posting this cringe.
@@samr.england613 China has three aircraft carriers and is set to have two more this year. And what do you mean China has ‘serious problems of its own’? Of course, they do, every country does. Do you think the U.S. is just sitting back and relaxing? The U.S. has far more severe problems than China ever will. And let’s not forget, America is a war criminal. Oh, you don’t agree? Take a look at the wars happening around the world. Who started them? The U.S. and its Western allies. China? What wars has China started? What chaos has China caused? Let me guess, you’re thinking about Taiwan and the South China Sea? Taiwan has always been part of China, and reunification is inevitable, not through war but by rightful force if necessary. As for the South China Sea, China is conducting research, not creating chaos.
Why are you so quick to underestimate China? Oh, right you’re a Westerner, conditioned by Western propaganda. Keep living under the illusion that the West, especially the U.S., is a peacemaker. It’s laughable. The U.S. is obsessed with competition, creating chaos, waging wars, deceiving people, and lacking basic humanity. But of course, you’ll never admit that. It’s in your culture, after all. So go ahead stay under Western influence, and let’s see where it gets you. Just don’t be surprised when you meet your early end. 😉
I sure wish we could cooperate on these missions. How far could we as a species go if we spent our resources on exploring space rather than fighting each other?
China will start his Mars soil samples returning mission by 2030. It's a crucial step to send man on Mars and safely return Earth.
Without any progress in rocket technology with what we have today, the journey to Mars will take too long, 7 months to Mars, but if the planets are aligned, the return is only possible in three years, current estimates are that we can only expect human missions to Mars in the middle of 2030
Imagine a mars race ... China is now catching up fast ...
I love watching the Mars videos, but please elon yapping about Mars has not been for years, don't think 2002 is for years. We are still very much early!
Unless they find a renewable energy on Mars solar by itself will not cut the mustard. Nuclear energy would be the way.
And furthermore why in Sam hell are they looking for water in the deserts of Mars when there are two poles covered mainly with water ice? Wtf lol
That is a awesome place in China
SpaceX will be all over Mars by then…to think SpaceX doesn’t have a working plan is hilarious. However, we need a thermonuclear catapult/tugboat for Earth-to-Mars-to-Earth transport of Starship heavy or any other payload.
Martian asbestos wasn’t what I was expecting
Oh Goodie, a POLITICAL SPACE RACE to Mars, could not have hoped for more to speed things up! 😀
12 Chinamen on Mars alongside a self-sustaining city of 1m people is hardly competition. That tiny outpost will be abandoned as soon as Elon has dropped 1000 Tesla bots on Mars.
12 Chinese on Mars (more likely 4 to 6) is a realistic possibility for which the technology exists now. Musk's imaginary million is an impossibility for the medium future though it might become possible in a century or two. My guess, having watched the whole space race since the beginning and kept up with the technical developments, is that small mainly research oriented settlements may be developed on the Moon and later on Mars. Looking at present US struggles I suspect that China will lead that process.
@@rais1953 This channel is extremely biased towards Musk as being the leader of a Mars colony. He's a CEO selling big dreams, and I'm sure he himself knows how impractical it all is. The truth of the matter is NASA wants a base too similar to China far before whatever Musk is talking about.
China’s Mars Colony… Thought this is Elons Dream…
The moon landings didn’t "kick off" the space race. Sputnik did that, followed by poor little Laika in orbit and then Yuri Gagarin.
No plans. Full focus is on the Moon. This basic experiments. Mars is envisioned for 2050. Chinese make long-term plans lol
MARS - MILITARY ADMINISTRATIONS RESCUING SOULS?
America is not Elon Musk.
...But Mars will be.
Federal funds will now go to SpaceX for the Mars Race. ... just watch
Belongs to America.
Trust me...he is.....he just needs to close his campanies and we'll see if he ain't
@@lemont64 "if America gave away it's entire military let's see if they're still powerful" 💀 elons powerful because of his companies and their significance to the government, no company, no significance lol
Do Elon and China salute in the same way? Also, radiation exposure for the crew.
2:20 nice touch
Understand, a lot of us are just no longer excited about SpaceX or Mars for perfectly reasonable, uh, reasons.
I understand you have a channel to run. Best of luck reporting this without the sideshow
As a Sci Fi fan I love the progress that SpaceX is making - but could we just stick Trump and Elon on the first ship and rid ourselves?
I'll believe when Disney builds a new park on Mars.
Haven't heard of America's marss.....lesson ... controlling narrative is super important
I think the Astronauts of the US and the Tekonauts of China are interested in space travel to Mars, but not at all interested in the possibility of death or failure in the attempt.
just hope both space faring countries would work together in the end.
China is preparing for Mars colonization with two prototype bases and plans for robotic and crewed missions. Their focus is on scientific research, with a timeline for sending astronauts by 2033 and establishing a long-term presence through multiple missions.
I am requesting for a source of this information. It's something very interesting to read.
China is certainly a country serious about exploring Mars. Having two base station mock-ups to stoke the imagination of kids is super smart. The sixties space race stoked the imagination of American kids (like me). What do we have today that’s anything close? Maybe Tomorrowland attractions at Disney Theme Parks? That’s certainly fun, then off to the Jungle Cruise. Wouldn’t it be great to have truly themed Mars bases in America in, say, the Arizona painted desert? Space camp is good. Mars camp would be better!
America mainly Musk talking about going to Mars but how much money and investments have been put into stuff like China has?
Where is the American version of this video, it is all talk, nothing has materialized. China looks serious and America & Musk are just financial talk.
Well, Musk is not a scientist or head of NASA. He "only" owns company that build rockets, rockets that are far more advance that anything that Chinese have and will have for a long time and Trump is just few weeks in the office. 😂
So you didn't follow those real time tests for living on Mars (or Moon)?
In order to sustain harsh life on Mars, first step actually is to develop new material for lunar base,then it's not difficult to have "upgraded material" for Mars base…
I think meteorite actually can be good material but there are too few of them for industrial use, so more answers can be found in active volcano sites : not only these can be the test sites for Advance material(to endure high temperature), but mining the crust hold lava maybe is also important for new material(but miners need to control mech like machine to avoid danger)
Anyway,I'm not saying "China needs active volcano just like Russia needs sea port",but due to increasing geopolitical tension, China maybe will eventually to develop Japan's North islands(currently occupied by Russia ), but of course this economics development need negotiation with Russia and Japan…
But consider China's port city Dalian is building biggest man made island airport(it'a ironic Japan colonized the city before), Japan'a north island will become focus,and since Russia lost control of black sea,they will put their eyes to the east,hmm
I don't think Elon wants to have Mars all for himself, I think he'll be happy to have others try. Infact I believe his mission is built on the fact that NASA or anybody in the early 2000s had no plans, whatsoever, for manned Mars missions.
Props for pronouncing Chang'e properly.
Hopefully Elon is working on a nuclear-powered tunnel, boring machine. long-term survival on Mars will depend on subterranean habitats protected from both meteor strikes and radiation.
Give us the Salute!
(07:33) China's long-term Mars plan is intense-multiple missions, a cargo fleet, and nuclear propulsion! This isn't just about planting a flag; they're in it for serious research and exploration.🚀🔴
What a wonderful idea, and most likely China will dominate the space market.
Poorer countries won't have the tech, wealthier countries the tech will be unaffordable, so everyone will eventually turn towards China.
And deep mars habitats closer to the core will get the inhabitants closer to water sources, the deeper will also increase available heat sources mitigating power consumption, the closer to the core will also mitigate atmosphere pressure.
All making human habitation more realistic.
A Mars a day helps you work rest and play!
Extra info on so called patriotic educational bases, those are more or less scientific/historical museums to provide "more educational" things to do for the teens, usually in the form of school organized field trips or such. None of that is really mandatory or try to drill in any patriotic stuff, nor do they try. About 1/3 of them are nothing more then sight seeing, about 1/3 of them just show you the history of China and remind you of the horrifying alternative such as what if IJN's biochemical warfare was never stopped, what if WWII was lost, what if the Opium war led to full on colonization and so on. The rest are the sciency ones, they are generally more fun, I visited nuclear plant (did go inside, it's pretty cool) in my home city, went to science museums and some others I couldn't really recall.
TLDR: they are museums, in almost every way possible
A Mars colony would be a stretch for any one nation. I think this may be an impressive plan, but the problems are daunting. Logistics support will be incredibly difficult. And trying to make EVERYTHING on Mars and survive will be so difficult. And with an imminent real estate and banking collapse on the horizon for China, followed by a demographic collapse, this may not be as successful as they imagine.
And Elon Musk is an unrealistic 9 year old. His energy and determination to browbeat others into making his 9 year old vision come true has revitalized the American efforts. But his unwillingness to accept the dangers posed by radiation, and his apparent belief that building the rockets is enough to make the enterprise successful, shows me he has been taking too much meth or something.
There is an even larger technology base of assets that need to be designed and built than we needed for Apollo, and that required 400,000 engineers and many contractors. The power requirements and time necessary to fuel the return trip for ONE STARSHIP exceed the time alloted for the return window.
The Zubrin plan was better. He would not even send the astronauts to Mars unless the return ship was already refueled. And his ships were small and required but a fraction of the fuel for a fully loaded Starship.
The one thing I don't hear is how they are going to solve the basic problem. Oxygen and water for the long term?
No one has, as far as I know, invented a machine that can create or filter out oxygen from the Martian atmosphere? Or how do they plan to extract water out of the Martian soil?
We also need to remember what may seem like pure scientific research by them has an underlying motive of profiting from natural Martian resources to be sold and used on Earth and in space.
The point is don't take what anyone says at face value.
Epic!!!
In 1976 there was not Russia, but the USSR
good job balancing speculations and red scare
The moon for
🇺🇸united states was a waste of taxpayer😢 dollars.. Why didn't we take it over instead of leaving a flag?
The human body needs gravity that is reasonably close to Earth gravity. We evolved for 4.5 billion years for 1G of gravity and Mars has barely more than one third Earth gravity. Very low gravity over long time ruins human health. Bones shrink and the internal organs get distorted from it. I call it "gravity deprivation".
We are going to Mars!
The flag of the People's Republic of China looks better than the stars and stripes on Mars anyways. It's almost as if the flag was DESIGNED for Mars.
it's not Elon Musk's department per say to colonize, or even send scientists to mars. I'd assume NASA would fill in the gap until an appropriate organization forms.
Landing on the moon ENDED the space race when the Soviets dropped out and tried to claim there never was a race at all.
At least this time we'll have lots of documented footage from technology much further advanced than the 60s; though there'll always be doubters unless they can experience it for themselves.
See, if China can stop trying to compete with our space companies. Then what they can do is, get the research and science, then give is the information so that we can be prepared for what's going to be on Mars. Afterwards, Elon Musk would send a couple of practice landing missions, then send people there with another starship full of base material and supplies that follow the crew ship, until they land on Mars.
What about India? Are they a serious contender?
India's ISRO operates on shoestring funding. They've landed on the Moon, which was amazing, and their first and only attempt to put a satellite around Mars was successful.
Well, with all their stolen tech, they most likely will not make it. If your worried, go look at their really awesome robots that are 15 years behind boston dynamics yet shown off as cutting edge tech.
If they can get starship to mars, they could send anything, heavy payload to there. I think somewhere within the next 10-15 years there will be a mars station. It will probably start small, with a 5-10 people crew, and 50-100m² of area. Then it will slpwly be expanded throughout the years. It will be very fun to see it in our lifetime.
Wouldn't we need to establish a base on the moon first?
@@dhc4186 We don't _have_ to, but it would be a very good idea to focus on lunar development first and use both the lessons learned and industrial capabilities of that colony to go to mars in a better, more sustainable way.
@ I was 13 when they landed on the moon the first time and I am turning 69 at the end of the month. I think I will see a moon base established in my life time, but not a base on Mars (probably my sons or grandsons will see that accomplishment). Meanwhile, I am experiencing Mars by reading the excellent Colony One series by Gerald M. Kilby! Take care.
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What was it Hobbes said about life in "Leviathan"?
Never will happen china
You CANNOT LIVE ON MARS. There is no electromagnetic field to protect you from solar radiation because Mars does not have a molten iron core, like Earth. 😂
Right. You live under Mars.
In China, the Chinese people don’t understand the meaning of ‘cannot.’ They always work hard and find ways to achieve their dreams. Unlike the West, which is obsessed with competing, creating chaos, waging wars, deceiving people, and lacking humanity.
People who hate china.. Keep living under Western influence, Western lies, and Western propaganda. You have no future if you continue to follow the West. People like you shouldn’t exist in this world. You know nothing but the falsehoods spread by the West, which thrives on deception, war, chaos, and a lack of humanity. The West teaches you that China is bad, but what a fool you are to believe them. You’ve been completely deceived. You haven’t seen the real China because you refuse to embrace Eastern, especially Chinese, influence. It’s your choice, keep living under Western influence, and you’ll meet an early end. Goodbye. 😉
How much per nite?
China may have more volunteers to risk one way missions
America better get it together
Elon bro is always in Delulu 🥹
No Red Chinese is going to no Red Planet on a chemical rocket. Never. Besides, there's no point going to Mars, the robots are doing just fine.
Elon musk never thought Mars colonization was possible. Musk uses inspiration to get people exited to work for him long hours with bad pay. musk missuses it to make his companies grow. If it where other wise than Musk would have invested money into the Mars project a long time ago. Mars colonization needs Living space and industry that has to be developed on earth. But Musk never invested a cent into Mars colonization. And to develope this after the transportation problem is solved is not possible. It takes at least as long to solve the transportation problem as to develope the industries necessary to colonize mars. If Musk was serious about colonizing Mars than Musk would have invested over 100 Billion already in to develope the tools necessary to colonize Mars. To develope the tools will take now another 20 years! Musk knows this. Musk is a liar and a egomaniac.
LoL Gansu is a heavenly wonderland compared to the frozen, airless radioactive hellscape that is Mars! Send robots to terraform, then send hunans in 10,000 years.
Hope you make it titanium
They might be the first ones there
I want the USA to get there first . However 2nd is better than being a single planet species
What about cosmic radiation?
Nice fantasy tent
Chinese Moon Landers have very broad legs in contrast to the rest who are narrow and tall. The Moon is very rugged so that give failiurs.