Exactly. I use their products but I don't get a free setup. Since this was just released they gave them out a while back and people had to have them installed for them to show the freebee.
It's to do their 'unbiased" reivews LOL. Although almost every one of these youtubers narrative sound the same with the same great narrative. What they aren't saying is that the ULTRA is not backwards compatible with the other ecosystem. How convenient to leave that stuff out, eh?
You said "freebee". So are you allowed to keep these products considering how expensive the products you have shown are? I've seen a few dozen channels reviewing the Delta Pro Ultra's over the last few days. Ecoflow must be doing well as a company to give away such expensive products! @@Craig32
Yep,the Ambition Strikes channel just did a video of the same stuff but they didn't cover all the details that you've done. Years ago I wired in a timer to my water heater. Since I live alone I set the timer to turn on the water heater at 2 am through 5 am so I could take a bath before going to work. As a result of doing that I cut my power bill in half.
Yes and not only them. I saw at least 10 other RUclipsrs do the same with similar text frases. Ambition Strikes does shameless plugging on each of there episodes. Getting a little Eco-overflowed.
Evidently, they provided a complete script to just read. Wild Wonderful Offgrid channel had the exact same script as Ambition Strikes. They installed it at their parents home in Florida. Just a little over-saturated for my liking.
@@AlAndValOffGrid plus they all were handed out the same goodies to advertise and were most likely given that stuff to evaluate over a period of time. Not a bad place to be though
Will this send power back to your main panel ? I asked because it is connected to grid power via grid connection. Why is it that there is a built in transfer lock for the generator not to send power back to the grid but the batteries can send power?
No, this isn't an AC coupled solution so it would only feed the loads on the sub-panel. That is why there is the interlock so it can comply with the regulations.
Here's a test I would be curious about: if you disconnect the smart panel from the internet for multiple days, do you lose any functionality? For instance, I believe the Tesla Powerwall system completely stops functioning if it is unable to connect to Tesla servers after about 48 hours. I haven't been able to find a solid answer on this for EcoFlow.
Awesome video. About to purchase the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra inverter, 5 batteries and the smart panel 2. I would like to have my home 3 ton ac unit (30 amp) to the smart panel. My concern is the fan on the air handler gets it power from the heating breaker (60 amp). I do not plan to ever power the heating system using batteries (we don't get that cold here often). But how do I power the blower so the ac works properly? I will not install the panel myself but would want some knowledge when getting quotes from licensed electricians. Thanks for any advice.
Thank you! Obviously, I don't know your setup but I would imagine that the blower/handler would have it's own power source and perhaps you can find that wire (or ask the electrician to wire one in) and then bring that over to the SHP2. You can email me if you have more questions and if you want to send photos and I can potentially help better.
Can you attach your RV panels to the echo pro through a switch or bus bar on the RV then outside plug on the house? I assume the RV panels aren't doing much when the RV is at home.
Yes, I could. I agree, why not take advantage of the solar already sitting g in the driveway. I have the power kit system currently installed and so those batteries are getting charged by solar
Nice video. According to one source, the average house in the USA uses about 29.6 kWh per day. That would be 5 batteries. What I have been wondering about this unit is how long it would take to charge 5 batteries with just one inverter just using solar power?? To me that signifies if this can really be used off grid. Thanks.
Thanks! Giving numbers on this question is difficult because it depends on many factors. Not only do you have to have a good guess at consumption, but it needs to be tailored to the seasons, like winter, use more heat, and there is less sun for recharging batteries. So you could try to calculate what your 3-4 days needs are over some cold days in winter. For year round solar production guesses, I recommend pvwatts. It’s a free online tool (us government agency) and does a really great job modeling solar output.
I have existing roof top solar panels that connects and feed to the grid. If I connect this ecoflow battery to the main panel through a power inlet, will I be able to charge it through roof top solar when there's power outage? Right now the roof top solar can't be used when the grid is down. Thanks.
I'm guessing your point of grid connection for the solar is through a backfed breaker. In that case, I would think that it might work, though I haven't tested it myself. I will be at CES this January so I'll put that on my list to ask one of the EcoFlow engineers there. I am not sure if the inverter on the DPU could be damaged with the rooftop inverters backfeeding power.
@@FrugalRepair Thanks. It'll be great if you can check with them. DPU is much cheaper than the integrated solutions like Tesla Powerwall. I also don't like that the integrated batteries will be charged and discharged daily - which degrades their life span. All I want is a solution when there's power outage. I don't really care if I can feed the extra battery power back to the grid for the pennies they pay me.
It is about a 7kw load, a 6kwh battery. I don't remember the exact time to full charge but at max rate of about 6,500w it should take about an hour starting at 0%.
@@FrugalRepair 1 hour is fast. my problem is that i do not have space one ground and i have not found a installer for the roof.thanks for your response!!!
Just purchased Ulra and Smart Panel and wanting to add some of their RIGID Solar... How many (2x400) of their panels would you suggest? I have no other source of backup power at the moment so just getting started. Thx
It's hard to say how many solar panels because it depends on how much storage you have and what your needs are. If it's your only source of power, I'd probably say get as much solar as you can. You don't have to get EcoFlow panels, BTW, you can get any panels you want. But to know more precisely you should guess at your loads and use a calculator (like PVwatts) to give you an idea of solar production throughout the year.
Trying to figure out how this would work with my new food trailer. I only should be pulling 4500w at most when the hot water heater is on. Most of the time, it will just be about 3000w.
I have an 30a 240V interlock system already wired up in my home for a roll out Honda generator. Can I just plug this unit into the same socket I plug the generator into?
I recently ordered the new Delta Pro Ultra from EcoFlow, but I'm having a frustrating issue. They sent me the inverter but not the battery, and to make matters worse, they charged me for the full unit. When I emailed them to ask about the missing battery, they informed me that the batteries for this unit are out of stock and won't be available until mid-July. However, when I called their customer service number, I was told the batteries would be in stock in early July. These conflicting dates keep me stuck with a Delta Pro Ultra and no battery indefinitely. Adding to my frustration, their website still allows people to order the kits and the batteries as if they're readily available.
Can you tell me how much problem I have if I already have a main panel on one side of the house and another subpanel in the garage? both have main circuits (240) and 120 circuits. Would I have to have 2 smart panels to run the whole house off the battery/inverter delta pro ultra?
That is hard to answer because it depends on which and how many circuits you want to have backed up by the SHP2/DPU. I would think you would want one SHP as a critical load panel off of your main panel. If you want the circuits in the sub-panel to be on the SHP2, then maybe you could run new wires for just those circuits? Not trying to punt but maybe you could also ask this in the EF facebook group since there can be a back and forth a little easier with more people.
It's rated for over 3,500 cycles. A cycle is 100% to 0% then back to 100%. So the way they rate these batteries is after about 3,500 cycles it should be at 80% of it's original capacity.
Did i miss you giving the cost of each item??🤔 If not, it is very important that the information is given so we consumers can make an evaluation if this is even feasible to pursue. If this was an oversight, fine. However, if this was a deliberate ploy to get us to contact the company for more info, not cool or appreciated. Please respond to this inquiry. Thank you.
He did say they were FREE to him and hundreds of others online. Hard not to get jealous. Plenty of people use their products and don't get these. I get it they want the reach from the what they consider influencers.
I didn't know the final pricing before the release day so I couldn't say. It's available on amazon so you don't have to go to their website if you don't want to. I can look up the price with current deal and coupons if you wanted.
How would you rate functionality without the app? I was looking into these but I don't want another app to manage it. Do I need the app for setup? Does the system need to connect to my network?
You can definitely use it without the app or internet. I would at lease connect it every so often to get firmware updates. The display on the screen shows most of the information. If you want to see a breakdown of input or outputs by source then you would want the app. But if you just care to see totals the screen will show them and also various icons will light up to give information. There are some options only available in the app like toggle switches for battery preconditioning (use the internal heating in cold weather) or AC always on, and a slider for setting charge/discharge limits, AC recharge speed, timeout values, and any automation timing schedules you can set up.
The key info needed is the voltage numbers on the solar panels. If you put them in series (add voltage) you have to make sure the voltage doesn’t go over 450v (when temps are coldest outside). You might be able to put them all in series on the high voltage port or take 2-3 of them and put them on the low voltage port and the rest on the high voltage port.
This may seem like a dumb or crazy idea but I'll ask it anyway. I have a pre-existing large solar array that feeds directly back to the grid. I' like to have a battery backup system as well as one that can power my 220v crypto rigs. This seems like a great solution for both, but rather than buying separate solar panels, I'd like to see if I can tap into my current system. Is it possible to just add an outlet to the line that is feeding directly back into the grid power in my fusebox and charge the DPU via the 220v input? Or is that crazy/dangerous? 🙂
You might want to email me if you have more questions. If your solar array is backfed through a breaker on your main panel then couldn't you install a 220V outlet with the breaker on your main panel? Then you can charge the DPU from that. But maybe I am misunderstanding. I made this video comparing two battery backup solutions (Anker and EcoFlow) if interested. ruclips.net/video/9uNSm626Pcw/видео.html
@@FrugalRepair yes that's what I'm thinking I can do. Just add an outlet right before it is fed directly back into the panel to the grid. Just curious if that is okay to feed into the DPU as the wattage would fluctuate wildly through the day. Is that okay to just plug it into the charging port? was worried a bit about it not being steady voltage and eventually damage the unit... ? thank you!
Good information however its seems that the ecoflow delta pro ultra downsize thier system it should be compatible with their Generator include a special port that feed the EFDPU with maximum also the automatic generator startup not included as well If I need to go 100% off grid and install e.g. 90kwh this option should included in order to recharge the battery however its seems the EFDPU may thinking about this kind of problem and they should found away to make the system compatible with their new system similar to the delta pro version and the dual fuel generator hopefully you well deliver this message to them
The new ULTRA is 100V and the only way to use the older generator they sell is to use the normal 110v plug. It's amazing how the "ULTRA" is not compatible with any of their other products. Not the last smart home panel and not anything. You would think they would rename it to something else to not confuse the consumer into thinking it has compatibility with the rest of their ecosystem but it doesn't. Also, my experience with their customer support has been absolutely horrendous .....
I didn't know the final pricing before the video went live so I couldn't include it in the recording. It's available on amazon and their website with the price. They have coupons and deals but I can look it a price with coupons, etc if you wanted.
Why can't you schedule battery discharge and use EPS at the same time???? Who would ever want to wait 5 seconds in darkness for your battery to switch over.
@@FrugalRepair The app says "Conflicting settings! Turning on savings mode will turn off the EPS mode." I am just trying to turn on Scheduled Tasks on the Smart Home Panel 2 and that comes up.
You would have to be a fool to pay such a high price for an inverter that uses cheap, low peak power, Chinese made, high frequency inverter technology. For a lot less money than this, you can buy a heavy duty, longer lasting, much safer, low frequency, hybrid inverter charger and a much larger inverter charger and get a much higher peak power rating.
I have the DPU and it works very well. Solidly made and loads of power. I bought it so I can power my well and heating system during outages. Oh, and I am not a RUclipsr.
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Ecoflow is handing out the Delta Pro Ultra's like candy.
Exactly. I use their products but I don't get a free setup. Since this was just released they gave them out a while back and people had to have them installed for them to show the freebee.
It's to do their 'unbiased" reivews LOL. Although almost every one of these youtubers narrative sound the same with the same great narrative. What they aren't saying is that the ULTRA is not backwards compatible with the other ecosystem. How convenient to leave that stuff out, eh?
You said "freebee". So are you allowed to keep these products considering how expensive the products you have shown are? I've seen a few dozen channels reviewing the Delta Pro Ultra's over the last few days. Ecoflow must be doing well as a company to give away such expensive products! @@Craig32
😂😂😂😂
Great EcoFlow delta pro ultra 3 system 90,000 KWH power whole house
Sure is a lot of EcoFlow commercials like this one around today...
Yep,the Ambition Strikes channel just did a video of the same stuff but they didn't cover all the details that you've done. Years ago I wired in a timer to my water heater. Since I live alone I set the timer to turn on the water heater at 2 am through 5 am so I could take a bath before going to work. As a result of doing that I cut my power bill in half.
Yes and not only them. I saw at least 10 other RUclipsrs do the same with similar text frases. Ambition Strikes does shameless plugging on each of there episodes. Getting a little Eco-overflowed.
Evidently, they provided a complete script to just read. Wild Wonderful Offgrid channel had the exact same script as Ambition Strikes. They installed it at their parents home in Florida. Just a little over-saturated for my liking.
@@AlAndValOffGrid plus they all were handed out the same goodies to advertise and were most likely given that stuff to evaluate over a period of time. Not a bad place to be though
great video. you are the first youtuber that didn't give their EcoFlow Delta to their parents.
lol, thanks!
Did Delta give one of these to EVERY RUclipsr? I'm looking at 9 videos to the right of this one right now, all saying the exact same thing.
Yep. Its release day so the freebees rolled out. Of course they only give to people they deem worthy and have enough subscribers.
such a comprehensive review!!
Will this send power back to your main panel ? I asked because it is connected to grid power via grid connection. Why is it that there is a built in transfer lock for the generator not to send power back to the grid but the batteries can send power?
No, this isn't an AC coupled solution so it would only feed the loads on the sub-panel. That is why there is the interlock so it can comply with the regulations.
Here's a test I would be curious about: if you disconnect the smart panel from the internet for multiple days, do you lose any functionality? For instance, I believe the Tesla Powerwall system completely stops functioning if it is unable to connect to Tesla servers after about 48 hours.
I haven't been able to find a solid answer on this for EcoFlow.
Awesome video. About to purchase the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra inverter, 5 batteries and the smart panel 2. I would like to have my home 3 ton ac unit (30 amp) to the smart panel. My concern is the fan on the air handler gets it power from the heating breaker (60 amp). I do not plan to ever power the heating system using batteries (we don't get that cold here often). But how do I power the blower so the ac works properly? I will not install the panel myself but would want some knowledge when getting quotes from licensed electricians. Thanks for any advice.
Thank you! Obviously, I don't know your setup but I would imagine that the blower/handler would have it's own power source and perhaps you can find that wire (or ask the electrician to wire one in) and then bring that over to the SHP2. You can email me if you have more questions and if you want to send photos and I can potentially help better.
Very nice, good test.
Can you attach your RV panels to the echo pro through a switch or bus bar on the RV then outside plug on the house? I assume the RV panels aren't doing much when the RV is at home.
Yes, I could. I agree, why not take advantage of the solar already sitting g in the driveway. I have the power kit system currently installed and so those batteries are getting charged by solar
Thanks
Nice video. According to one source, the average house in the USA uses about 29.6 kWh per day. That would be 5 batteries. What I have been wondering about this unit is how long it would take to charge 5 batteries with just one inverter just using solar power?? To me that signifies if this can really be used off grid. Thanks.
Thanks! Giving numbers on this question is difficult because it depends on many factors. Not only do you have to have a good guess at consumption, but it needs to be tailored to the seasons, like winter, use more heat, and there is less sun for recharging batteries. So you could try to calculate what your 3-4 days needs are over some cold days in winter. For year round solar production guesses, I recommend pvwatts. It’s a free online tool (us government agency) and does a really great job modeling solar output.
I have existing roof top solar panels that connects and feed to the grid. If I connect this ecoflow battery to the main panel through a power inlet, will I be able to charge it through roof top solar when there's power outage? Right now the roof top solar can't be used when the grid is down. Thanks.
I'm guessing your point of grid connection for the solar is through a backfed breaker. In that case, I would think that it might work, though I haven't tested it myself. I will be at CES this January so I'll put that on my list to ask one of the EcoFlow engineers there. I am not sure if the inverter on the DPU could be damaged with the rooftop inverters backfeeding power.
@@FrugalRepair Thanks. It'll be great if you can check with them. DPU is much cheaper than the integrated solutions like Tesla Powerwall. I also don't like that the integrated batteries will be charged and discharged daily - which degrades their life span. All I want is a solution when there's power outage. I don't really care if I can feed the extra battery power back to the grid for the pennies they pay me.
how much load you put in the panel 2?
what is the size of you battery array and how long does it take to charge the dp ultra batteries?
thanks
It is about a 7kw load, a 6kwh battery. I don't remember the exact time to full charge but at max rate of about 6,500w it should take about an hour starting at 0%.
@@FrugalRepair 1 hour is fast. my problem is that i do not have space one ground and i have not found a installer for the roof.thanks for your response!!!
I live in Wyndmoor PA USA 😊
Just purchased Ulra and Smart Panel and wanting to add some of their RIGID Solar... How many (2x400) of their panels would you suggest? I have no other source of backup power at the moment so just getting started. Thx
It's hard to say how many solar panels because it depends on how much storage you have and what your needs are. If it's your only source of power, I'd probably say get as much solar as you can. You don't have to get EcoFlow panels, BTW, you can get any panels you want. But to know more precisely you should guess at your loads and use a calculator (like PVwatts) to give you an idea of solar production throughout the year.
Trying to figure out how this would work with my new food trailer. I only should be pulling 4500w at most when the hot water heater is on. Most of the time, it will just be about 3000w.
Shoot me an email if you have a particular question.
do I need a Solar Charge Controller for the ecoflow delta pro ultra?
No. You can plug your solar panels directly into it.
I have an 30a 240V interlock system already wired up in my home for a roll out Honda generator. Can I just plug this unit into the same socket I plug the generator into?
Yes, the DPU outputs 240 split phase and you can plug directly into a generator inlet.
Good info thanks
Thanks for watching!
I recently ordered the new Delta Pro Ultra from EcoFlow, but I'm having a frustrating issue. They sent me the inverter but not the battery, and to make matters worse, they charged me for the full unit.
When I emailed them to ask about the missing battery, they informed me that the batteries for this unit are out of stock and won't be available until mid-July. However, when I called their customer service number, I was told the batteries would be in stock in early July.
These conflicting dates keep me stuck with a Delta Pro Ultra and no battery indefinitely. Adding to my frustration, their website still allows people to order the kits and the batteries as if they're readily available.
That is frustrating! Hopefully the battery will come sooner than you expect. If you want to shoot me an email, perhaps I can ask on your behalf.
What about connecting anker solix x1 anker smart panal connecting like tesla powerwall 3 will work
I just put out a video on installing the Anker Home Power Panel.
Can you connect a 110w solar panel and a 220w solar panel into the ultra?
I doubt the 110w or 220w is over 30v, which is the lowest the DPU can accept on the low voltage port. So probably not.
Can you tell me how much problem I have if I already have a main panel on one side of the house and another subpanel in the garage? both have main circuits (240) and 120 circuits. Would I have to have 2 smart panels to run the whole house off the battery/inverter delta pro ultra?
That is hard to answer because it depends on which and how many circuits you want to have backed up by the SHP2/DPU. I would think you would want one SHP as a critical load panel off of your main panel. If you want the circuits in the sub-panel to be on the SHP2, then maybe you could run new wires for just those circuits? Not trying to punt but maybe you could also ask this in the EF facebook group since there can be a back and forth a little easier with more people.
What is the life of the battery? Also life of the portable battery?
It's rated for over 3,500 cycles. A cycle is 100% to 0% then back to 100%. So the way they rate these batteries is after about 3,500 cycles it should be at 80% of it's original capacity.
How much did you pay for the electricitian?
I'd have to look it up to get it exactly but it was about $1,500
Did i miss you giving the cost of each item??🤔 If not, it is very important that the information is given so we consumers can make an evaluation if this is even feasible to pursue. If this was an oversight, fine. However, if this was a deliberate ploy to get us to contact the company for more info, not cool or appreciated. Please respond to this inquiry. Thank you.
He did say they were FREE to him and hundreds of others online. Hard not to get jealous. Plenty of people use their products and don't get these. I get it they want the reach from the what they consider influencers.
I didn't know the final pricing before the release day so I couldn't say. It's available on amazon so you don't have to go to their website if you don't want to. I can look up the price with current deal and coupons if you wanted.
How would you rate functionality without the app? I was looking into these but I don't want another app to manage it. Do I need the app for setup? Does the system need to connect to my network?
You can definitely use it without the app or internet. I would at lease connect it every so often to get firmware updates. The display on the screen shows most of the information. If you want to see a breakdown of input or outputs by source then you would want the app. But if you just care to see totals the screen will show them and also various icons will light up to give information. There are some options only available in the app like toggle switches for battery preconditioning (use the internal heating in cold weather) or AC always on, and a slider for setting charge/discharge limits, AC recharge speed, timeout values, and any automation timing schedules you can set up.
Excellent
Thanks for watching!
how can I connect 10, 400 W solar panels in parallel to an Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra?
The key info needed is the voltage numbers on the solar panels. If you put them in series (add voltage) you have to make sure the voltage doesn’t go over 450v (when temps are coldest outside). You might be able to put them all in series on the high voltage port or take 2-3 of them and put them on the low voltage port and the rest on the high voltage port.
@@FrugalRepair, the panels label say it is 31.28V. I think I want to do a hybrid (parallel and Series at the same time).
This may seem like a dumb or crazy idea but I'll ask it anyway. I have a pre-existing large solar array that feeds directly back to the grid. I' like to have a battery backup system as well as one that can power my 220v crypto rigs. This seems like a great solution for both, but rather than buying separate solar panels, I'd like to see if I can tap into my current system.
Is it possible to just add an outlet to the line that is feeding directly back into the grid power in my fusebox and charge the DPU via the 220v input? Or is that crazy/dangerous? 🙂
You might want to email me if you have more questions. If your solar array is backfed through a breaker on your main panel then couldn't you install a 220V outlet with the breaker on your main panel? Then you can charge the DPU from that. But maybe I am misunderstanding. I made this video comparing two battery backup solutions (Anker and EcoFlow) if interested. ruclips.net/video/9uNSm626Pcw/видео.html
@@FrugalRepair yes that's what I'm thinking I can do. Just add an outlet right before it is fed directly back into the panel to the grid. Just curious if that is okay to feed into the DPU as the wattage would fluctuate wildly through the day. Is that okay to just plug it into the charging port? was worried a bit about it not being steady voltage and eventually damage the unit... ? thank you!
looking for a 100% off-grid solution with zero grid power
Have you received any errors with this panel regarding the relay 1 on grid side?
No, I haven’t. Is that what you have experienced?
@@FrugalRepair yes and I'm seeing a bunch of different people on Reddit and Facebook groups having the same issues.
Sorry to hear that! Hopefully EF takes care of it.
Good information however its seems that the ecoflow delta pro ultra downsize thier system it should be compatible with their Generator include a special port that feed the EFDPU with maximum also the automatic generator startup not included as well
If I need to go 100% off grid and install e.g. 90kwh this option should included in order to recharge the battery however its seems the EFDPU may thinking about this kind of problem and they should found away to make the system compatible with their new system similar to the delta pro version and the dual fuel generator hopefully you well deliver this message to them
The new ULTRA is 100V and the only way to use the older generator they sell is to use the normal 110v plug. It's amazing how the "ULTRA" is not compatible with any of their other products. Not the last smart home panel and not anything. You would think they would rename it to something else to not confuse the consumer into thinking it has compatibility with the rest of their ecosystem but it doesn't. Also, my experience with their customer support has been absolutely horrendous .....
Man, my t.v is a black screen, now, theres volume like, i hear shit but just no pic, is there a fix? Its a bolva smart t.v
How much please
surprised you didn't fit it in your parents house 🤣😂
I didn't know the final pricing before the video went live so I couldn't include it in the recording. It's available on amazon and their website with the price. They have coupons and deals but I can look it a price with coupons, etc if you wanted.
Why can't you schedule battery discharge and use EPS at the same time???? Who would ever want to wait 5 seconds in darkness for your battery to switch over.
You can. The EPS mode will use more power while the inverters are on ready to be used.
@@FrugalRepair The app says "Conflicting settings! Turning on savings mode will turn off the EPS mode."
I am just trying to turn on Scheduled Tasks on the Smart Home Panel 2 and that comes up.
What is the cost for all this stuff? Is there another energy source besides solar? What about hydrogen?
wtf?
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You would have to be a fool to pay such a high price for an inverter that uses cheap, low peak power, Chinese made, high frequency inverter technology. For a lot less money than this, you can buy a heavy duty, longer lasting, much safer, low frequency, hybrid inverter charger and a much larger inverter charger and get a much higher peak power rating.
Eco flow fucking sucks. They literally paid 12 RUclipsrs on the same day to drop the same commercial. This is so ridiculous eco-flow sucks.
I have the DPU and it works very well. Solidly made and loads of power. I bought it so I can power my well and heating system during outages. Oh, and I am not a RUclipsr.
Will this pull the welding machine?
Do you mean pull it like a wagon or power a welding machine? If the welder is 240 and needs less than 7,200W then yes, it can power it.