Handheld CNC router repairs old CNC machine

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
  • I show how to use a handheld CNC router, the Shaper Origin, to make aluminum parts for my CNC mill.
    www.shapertools...
    Shaft encoder: www.cui.com/pro...

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  • @AmRadPodcast
    @AmRadPodcast 8 лет назад +76

    That Shaper has got to be one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time. I've made 3 CNC routers so I can appreciate what goes on there, but man! What a good idea. Taking the axes out of the machine (well from the user experience anyway).

    • @JoshuaRando
      @JoshuaRando 8 лет назад +12

      +The Current Source Half computer, half man machine.

    • @GregoMorgan
      @GregoMorgan 8 лет назад +3

      +Joshua Rando No it's half computer, half man and half machine.

    • @meunomejaestavaemuso
      @meunomejaestavaemuso 8 лет назад +2

      +gregory morgan that's 150%

    • @GregoMorgan
      @GregoMorgan 8 лет назад +1

      Fernando Santos
      I'm super cereal though.

  • @amiralozse1781
    @amiralozse1781 8 лет назад +116

    First I thought "a handheld CNC router, that sound pretty much impossible, an oxymoron of a special kind"
    then I was: "Hoolyyy f.... "
    ....... and my jaw is still dropping!!

  • @johndrachenberg2254
    @johndrachenberg2254 8 лет назад +12

    This really isn't my field, but I foresee handheld CNC routers revolutionizing the industry, especially for small businesses and individual users, if the price is right, of course. Seems like there's quite a bit of intelligence and processing power in that unit. Very cool. Thanks for the great demonstration.

  • @RWGresearch
    @RWGresearch 8 лет назад +42

    that is a cool tool. however I would like to see some really close ups of the metal edges. to see just how well the compensation is. looks good from what I can see. nice video ~Russ

  • @PracticalEngineeringChannel
    @PracticalEngineeringChannel 8 лет назад +59

    Holy moly.

  • @RoboCNCnl
    @RoboCNCnl 8 лет назад +8

    That handheld CNC machine is awesome !

  • @sharedknowledge6640
    @sharedknowledge6640 7 лет назад

    It's nice when when crowd funded projects are genuinely innovative. Great overview of the product.

  • @RimstarOrg
    @RimstarOrg 8 лет назад +6

    Awesome machine! And great tutorial too. I can see you put a lot of effort into getting all the helpful shots.

  • @kobayashimaru8114
    @kobayashimaru8114 8 лет назад +12

    This kind of invention is why I'm happy to live in this day and age

    • @Reth_Hard
      @Reth_Hard 4 года назад

      Not having to risk your life for hunting mammoths every time you get hungry is pretty nice too... :P

  • @semidemiurge
    @semidemiurge 8 лет назад +4

    I would really like to see it have the ability to use a plasma torch as that would make this a must buy. Awesome tool, thanks for sharing.

  • @RichardCasto
    @RichardCasto 8 лет назад

    The concept behind the Shaper router blew my mind!

  • @ColinDH12345
    @ColinDH12345 8 лет назад

    What an absolutely fantastic concept for a portable CNC. Now why didn't I think of that?!
    Well done on the mod plate, nice work.
    You have a fantastic voice and manner for teaching. Love your videos. Thanks for sharing.

  • @MakeSomething
    @MakeSomething 8 лет назад +4

    So cool! I played with one of those Shapers at Maker Faire last year. I looking forward to getting one when they come out!

  • @Bright8888
    @Bright8888 8 лет назад

    Thanks for the excellent video on Shaper. I have watched some 15 videos on Shaper to get an idea as to how it works and what its capabilities are. I would say this is the best video that explains the operation with a demo.
    Looking forward to more videos on Shaper.

  • @nelumbonucifera7537
    @nelumbonucifera7537 8 лет назад +33

    "...plugged the thumb-drive into the router." My brain was confused there for a minute since I'm used to hearing that phrase in a network computing context.

    • @Reth_Hard
      @Reth_Hard 4 года назад +1

      I can actually plug a thumb drive in my wifi router and share its content on the network...

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 8 лет назад +2

    4800 baud is not too bad. My Commodore 64/128 only used around 300 back in the day. :-)

  • @edadpops1709
    @edadpops1709 8 лет назад +8

    Wouldn't this be great for guitar makers. Routing for inlays or dots,slotting for fret wire,or even routing the rough shape of an arch top.where can I find out more info. This just opens up new possibilities in woodworking. Great tech.

  • @brettsverkas7101
    @brettsverkas7101 8 лет назад +2

    I have been building CNC's for the last 10 years and this is brilliant. Great job in design and functionality. I wouldn't replace my CNC but I would buy this to compliment my work shop. How much $$$

  • @TheMarcball
    @TheMarcball 8 лет назад

    I'm so enthralled with this Shaper technology, although i'm ill at ease with the fact that it's one of those new techs where the human operator is like a cheap dumb inaccurate subcontractor to the machine, providing rough muscle infrastructure to move the precision machine to its rough destination, then letting it do the precision work... unsettling but fascinating !
    Keep on trucking ! (from France)

    • @paulcopeland9035
      @paulcopeland9035 8 лет назад +1

      Welcome to the future (or I guess present in this case)!

  • @user-jt3nf7in5w
    @user-jt3nf7in5w 8 лет назад

    Im grinning ear to ear about that Shaper, I hope this project doesn't die, and i can buy one
    Good work as usual AS!

  • @USWaterRockets
    @USWaterRockets 8 лет назад +2

    This is the kind of tool that I would go out of my way to think up uses for! Totally awesome.

    • @SteinErikDahle
      @SteinErikDahle 8 лет назад

      Agreed, this is absolutely awesome! And we're just in the beginning of the future - I wonder what other amazing tools are on the way?...

  • @voltlog
    @voltlog 8 лет назад

    Wow this is like the most interesting tool I've seen in the past few years!

    • @rentAscout
      @rentAscout 8 лет назад

      +VoltLog Indeed, hopefully its reasonably affordable when it comes out...

  • @DJignyte
    @DJignyte 8 лет назад +3

    Whoa! That's an amazing machine! Thankyou for sharing this awesome experience with us.
    What an impressive bit of kit.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 8 лет назад

    Yes I oilfield equipment with three cabinets full of blade motherboards to drive them all DOS. That was 23 years ago. nice hand cnc. Hope all goes well with your up grade. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Makebuildmodify
    @Makebuildmodify 8 лет назад

    Awesome video! I can't wait until these are in full production.

  • @nomadben
    @nomadben 8 лет назад +1

    Wow! That is an amazing tool. I really enjoyed the video Ben. Can't wait to see more of this thing.

  • @KnolltopFarms
    @KnolltopFarms 8 лет назад +4

    Wow, that is one awesome bit of tech/tooling...I'm itching to get one, and hope you'll keep us posted on development and release dates. Mahalo and Aloha...Chuck

    • @sciguy14
      @sciguy14 8 лет назад +1

      +simontay1984 Goal is to keep the price as accessible as possible. -Jeremy from Shaper

  • @wither8
    @wither8 8 лет назад

    These guys should give you commission, as this worked better than any ad. I bet these guys got at least a few hundred sales purely off this video haha. Great video as always ben!

  • @ShuffleSk8Ter
    @ShuffleSk8Ter 6 лет назад

    This has to be one of the most interesting tools I have seen....super easy to use, I wish i could afford one

  • @DIY3DTECHcom
    @DIY3DTECHcom 8 лет назад

    This is a very interesting use of applied augmented reality in a "hand tool", however wonder if the price of the unit will out way the value. Any pre-ideas on the cost?

  • @rjaquaponics9266
    @rjaquaponics9266 8 лет назад

    Brilliant Design!!! Finally a tool that works smarter not harder!!! Incredible!!!

  • @JGunlimited
    @JGunlimited 8 лет назад

    Whoa this project is really picking up steam! I heard about it some time back on the Amp Hour while it was still under another name, and now I seem to come across it in all sorts of places.

  • @proluxelectronics7419
    @proluxelectronics7419 8 лет назад

    WoW..... Shaper is well outside the box, What a unique take on video to CNC interface.
    Big Thumbs Up.

  • @Prometheus203
    @Prometheus203 8 лет назад

    That thing is amazing. Great for people who don't have the room for a router table! I'm sure they'll sell tons of those.

  • @ToastyRoland
    @ToastyRoland 8 лет назад

    I thought you were going to leave us with no money shot... thank you, it fit so nicely. Cheers sir.

  • @AffordBindEquipment
    @AffordBindEquipment 8 лет назад +1

    This would be an amazing tool for prototypers. Did you put a caliper on the diameter of those discs to see if it indeed cut them precisely round? How close did they get? Were the holes precisely located? A precision tool becomes a fun tool when it's not precision!

  • @ishanr8697
    @ishanr8697 8 лет назад

    To be honest, I had to Google CNC, but always like your videos. (I am a scientist, with no workshop experience)

  • @ChrisB257
    @ChrisB257 8 лет назад

    That router is amazing! I imagine cost is pretty high - $1,000 even. I can see vast uses for that.

    • @John_Ridley
      @John_Ridley 8 лет назад

      +ChrisB257 $1000 is probably a good guess. I can't imagine it being less than $750 or so at the bottom end.

  • @stefantrethan
    @stefantrethan 8 лет назад +2

    This is either the coolest thing ever, or the silliest thing ever, I can't decide which.
    Luckily it will be so expensive I don't have to worry about that.

  • @WeAreGRID
    @WeAreGRID 8 лет назад

    man that router is so cool! i like the idea of smarter tools, tools that can take some of the error out of the human hands, but still put the control in the hands of the user

  • @gingermetallurgist
    @gingermetallurgist 8 лет назад

    I am sure you are getting lots of aluminum milling recommendations, but I'll add another. As far as bits are concerned, I've gotten best results with a single flute spiral upcut. An example would be an Onsrud 63-618. Climb milling seems to give cleaner cuts than conventional. Finally, directing compressed air at the bit while running makes a huge difference.

  • @StefsEngineering
    @StefsEngineering 8 лет назад

    Nice preview of an awesome piece of equipment! It does quite a nice job in aluminium, looking forward to its release and pricing.

  • @TerryPullen
    @TerryPullen 8 лет назад

    Sleepless nights at Festool. This tool represents a turning point, wow!

  • @geiolaz
    @geiolaz 8 лет назад

    Hey man, it would be awesome if you started posting more videos, no need for it to be complex stuff, just simple interesting stuff you are making...
    Thanks and a hello from Brazil!

  • @PhattyMo
    @PhattyMo 8 лет назад +37

    Perhaps even I could cut a straight line,with that thing.

  • @BGraves
    @BGraves 8 лет назад

    genius!!!!! I've thought of making something like this for a long long time, but as a thought experiment only. they implemented it so nicely. wow. wonder the response time of the camera+motors for fast wood cutting required for not burning the wood. amazing product.

  • @whisk0r
    @whisk0r 8 лет назад

    That is quite the game changer! We'd love to try one of these out.

  • @TroyBlass
    @TroyBlass 8 лет назад

    i remember when i was still working in machine shops and these things are so impressive

  • @jeffbeck6501
    @jeffbeck6501 8 лет назад

    Awesome CNC conversion and application of an encoder.

  • @wa4aos
    @wa4aos 7 лет назад

    Imagine the possibilities!! I suspect this would be fantastic for chassis layout for some of my electronics projects.. Then cutting holes for speaker drivers..... Wow!!!!

  • @UberAlphaSirus
    @UberAlphaSirus 8 лет назад +1

    that's a great inovation for sheet work, setup is minimal. Have they set a price point yet?

  • @hugeslacker
    @hugeslacker 8 лет назад

    I do 3d drafting for a living and this technology looks amazing. I would love to have one of these.

  • @sysexstudio
    @sysexstudio 8 лет назад

    That Shaper router is awesome. It would be a good way to make accurate custom DIY aluminum panels for modular synthesizers.

  • @felixdietzCGN
    @felixdietzCGN 8 лет назад +3

    I really love your videos. so interesting and entertaining! this is a nice piece of tech but i also like your own developments, hope to see more of that cnc conversion!

  • @joelvanstaden9083
    @joelvanstaden9083 8 лет назад

    That cnc work's 100%. I also would like to get my 1. Let us know when it is available please

  • @HoffmanEngineering
    @HoffmanEngineering 8 лет назад +1

    This is incredible! Thank you for bringing this to my attention, that is a great idea for a tool!

  • @knwr
    @knwr 8 лет назад

    Do you know how much this thing is going to cost? Awesome machine, I'd like to know it's limits for machining different types of metal of different thicknes

  • @610garage
    @610garage 8 лет назад

    Yup I want one. Though, it probably wouldn't do well on sheet metal. I wonder if compressed air would prevent the aluminum from sticking to the end mill. At router speeds, I wouldn't be surprised if the aluminum is heating up and fusing to the end mill. Although, the more I think about it, it could also be a feed rate problem. The endmill isn't feeding into the aluminum fast enough causing the aluminum to distort out of the way instead of actually being cut.
    May I ask if your mill was originally cnc or was it retrofitted. Just curios. Never saw a bridgeport cnc before.

  • @maidpretty
    @maidpretty 8 лет назад +22

    Hmm... yeah, right, a handheld CNC router, ha-ha, very funny, oh come on, this is bulls... wait.. wut?! Wuuuuut?! Holy shite!
    Shut up and take my money!

    • @0xf7c8
      @0xf7c8 8 лет назад +6

      Exactly what I thoght when I first heard about this black magic

  • @jheckman314
    @jheckman314 8 лет назад

    I know the shaper folks are trying to ramp up excitement for the release of this thing and you know what, it worked. Wow, I would love to have one just so my kids make with it. I hope its cost is with in reason.

  • @rentacowisgoogle
    @rentacowisgoogle 8 лет назад

    That's one of the coolest tools I've ever seen!

  • @onesimpleclik
    @onesimpleclik 8 лет назад

    Wow, that Shaper machine is awesome!

  • @jasonmushersee
    @jasonmushersee 8 лет назад +2

    Cool technology in response to expensive cnc equipment in a marginal economy. Think of all the production factories who invested millions on cnc machines only to go out of business. I worked in 3 plastics production facilities and the cnc equipment was always having troubles, most of the time it was software related made outside the usa. Another issue is the shortage of skilled labor for cnc operators & the high costs of paying them. All 3 of these factories that hired me (for production assembly) "had no one" to run the cnc machines when i got there. I had mentioned i did some cnc work in high school in the 1980's with dos software & i wrote all the programs myself on floppy disc, suddenly they tried to stick me in the cnc part of the buildings and do it all for $9/hr! lol. Here's a tip: The Germans don't always use windows xp.

  • @leestuurmans2837
    @leestuurmans2837 8 лет назад

    Is anybody else losing their mind over how amazing this thing is?

  • @madmaker8529
    @madmaker8529 5 лет назад

    great video and channel ☺
    the handheld cnc is great and all...
    but I'm more interested in knowing what controller you used to to control your old cnc .
    especially the motors and encodes
    is it controlled via a motor driver or directly through the cnc controller?

  • @nelumbonucifera7537
    @nelumbonucifera7537 8 лет назад +1

    This looks great. Say you need to reference to an existing feature on the workpiece (eg. an edge or existing hole). Can you do absolute positioning with the fiducials?

    • @AppliedScience
      @AppliedScience  8 лет назад +1

      +Nelumbo Nucifera Yes. The fiducials can be placed anywhere (doesn't have to be on any specific edge), then when zoomed-in in the UI, you can use a feature to set marker points visually on the stock edge. It's much like tracing an edge in photoshop. Once done, you can use the machine's built-in CAM features to make holes and lines relative to the edge that you traced.

  • @WobblycogsUk
    @WobblycogsUk 8 лет назад

    I suddenly find myself living in the future, what an amazing tool. What sort of level of accuracy does it have? I looked like it was cutting a fairly good circle.

  • @noisytim
    @noisytim 8 лет назад +1

    Holy fudge! This is so cool! I hope these won't be super expensive, once they're released...

  • @engdallal
    @engdallal 8 лет назад

    I have never seen anything cleverer. I want one!

  • @pratherat
    @pratherat 8 лет назад

    I pre-ordered one! Can't wait to use it.

  • @Randomname183
    @Randomname183 8 лет назад +11

    Ya, that's awesome.
    I hope they don't sell the rights to some big brand that will ruin it or remove functionality for sake of profitability

  • @InnovationBlast
    @InnovationBlast 8 лет назад

    Shaper looks so cool! I hope I can get to use one eventually 😊

  • @n8guy
    @n8guy 8 лет назад +10

    So, SO awesome. What a great idea!

  • @brukernavnfettsjit
    @brukernavnfettsjit 8 лет назад

    Wow, that handheld router totally blew my mind! So cool! An awesome piece of tech, and seems to much more intuitive then a cnc router. Are there any restrictions on the work envelope, or can you make as large parts as you want if you just use enough og that tape?

  • @freelancergin
    @freelancergin 8 лет назад

    This is truly the coolest thing I've seen in a long time. Any news when they're going to sell it and at what price?

  • @Yakeru35
    @Yakeru35 8 лет назад +1

    Amazing ! So ... if I understand well, as long as there is enough positionning tape everywhere so that the Sharper never gets lost, there is virtualy no limit to the size of the part you can cut ! So you could cut life-sized wooden models :-D
    I want one !

  • @WersDaMan
    @WersDaMan 8 лет назад

    I NEED one of these, when are they going to be available and do you have any idea of the retail price range? Very cool, and thank you for taking the time to make this video, nicely done.

  • @eddrm4685
    @eddrm4685 8 лет назад

    Absolutely amazing! Is there any control for the plunge rate?
    You have the coolest videos!
    Thx for sharing.

  • @bisholim5377
    @bisholim5377 8 лет назад

    Oh Boy, Your family should be very very Proud of you. You really are something. I enjoy every bet of video that you make, and sometimes I envy you, because I would like to do one or two of the projects but my know how Is very limited compare to you, and my machines next to zero :( But I am doing something about that, I am learning more and more electronics and I have just ordered a Lathe. I do hope that in a year or two I will own a good cnc machine too. Anyway. I just wanted to thank you for all the inspirations and good video's....:)

  • @StripeyType
    @StripeyType 8 лет назад

    I got in on the very early hours of the Shaper Origin pre-order, so I'm very excited to see you using it for aluminum, even that thin. Have you tried anything thicker?

  • @suivzmoi
    @suivzmoi 8 лет назад

    looks like a dust collection tube would be a great addon for the Shaper. also the work piece seems to have received some nasty scratches. was it due to the Al scrap that was stuck to the cutting bit?

  • @Manofcube
    @Manofcube 8 лет назад

    I see the encoder you are using is CUI. Is it their capacitive encoder? I've been looking at those because of their low cost compared to optical. It'll be interesting to see if they are accurate enough for CNC mill work. Will you be using them in 2000ppr mode or at a lower resolution?

  • @user-jt3nf7in5w
    @user-jt3nf7in5w 8 лет назад

    That shaper is the most badass thing i have ever seen

  • @vejymonsta3006
    @vejymonsta3006 8 лет назад +1

    Where do you find all this mind blowing tech?!

  • @binnsh
    @binnsh 8 лет назад

    Wild! Looks like your aluminum piece is above/on top of the surface with the tape targets, does the Shaper Origin compensate for this? How accurate is this thing?

  • @CaliReef
    @CaliReef 8 лет назад +1

    hey, i have that router, are you using the original chuck? I've been trying to find a fairly affordable chuck for that router so i can put various size bits.

    • @AppliedScience
      @AppliedScience  8 лет назад +6

      +CaliReef It's a standard 1/4" collet in the DeWalt router. I wanted to use 1/8" diameter tools, so I bought an Amana 1/4" to 1/8" adapter. It works really well, and there are many more milling tools with 1/8" diameter, so it helps a lot. When cutting metal, using an 1/8" tool is much easier to handle due to lower cutting force. www.amazon.com/Amana-RB-102-REDUCTION-BUSHING-TO/dp/B001NI6KO8

  • @theslvrbullt
    @theslvrbullt 8 лет назад

    Pretty sweet tech! I wonder if it'll be a cheap alternative to a full blown CNC system, or if it's just going to be something for away-from-the-shop work.
    Speaking of CNC, could you give a novice looking to get into routers some pointers on what to look for? Or could you recommend a system to a newbie?

  • @LukeBeacon
    @LukeBeacon 8 лет назад

    One video every month or two is not ok!! You have tons of subscribers now! Make more pls!

  • @RegularDudeInTraffic
    @RegularDudeInTraffic 8 лет назад +2

    Always love your videos, great job again and thanks for your time. AWESOME!!!

  • @GLITCH_-.-
    @GLITCH_-.- 8 лет назад

    So amazing! Really great tool. I hope the price of the end product won't be too much. So that people can actually buy them.

  • @jakubbendzala9368
    @jakubbendzala9368 8 лет назад

    Very good video!
    For big CNC mill it will be better to use linear encoders mounted directly to axis (table), it will eliminate all backlash from drive screws and they are in general interchangeable with rotary encoders (if backlash is not huge, it's doesn't matter for control system if pulses comes from rotary encoder or linear encoder).

  • @kosi2801
    @kosi2801 8 лет назад

    Can you tell how long the delay in the Shaper Origin is until it detects a movement and compensates it? When you wobble the router at #3:42 it stabilizes your shakes but for a fraction of a second the head still moves before being corrected.
    This is very visible when you look at the yellow motor-casing against the background. I expected it to show no movement with stabilization but it still shakes when you move the base, although much reduced. Are there any numbers on the lag or accuracy available?
    I'm curious how the stabilization works, is it solely based on image detection or are there gyroscopes in the tool for this?

  • @MOTOSNOWRIDER
    @MOTOSNOWRIDER 8 лет назад

    I just want to know how much the shaper thing is, so I know how much I have to save up because I must have one!!! Awesome product!

  • @sadabetas
    @sadabetas 8 лет назад

    Were the Aluminum chips a noticeable problem during the milling process? Usually they're pretty well contained in an enclosure for CNC Machines; but here, because of the handheld nature "Shaper," I would think it would not only be annoying, but also whip at your hands and get up under the base of the machine.

  • @4n2earth22
    @4n2earth22 8 лет назад

    Just added another "must have" tool to my list. Thanks, Ben!
    And by the way; this warnt one o' dos 'good' videos, it was a great one!

  • @ElGatoLoco698
    @ElGatoLoco698 8 лет назад

    That router is one of the coolest gadgets I've seen in a while. God I want a CNC. Can anyone tell me what a good CNC machine for newbs would be? I'm curious to know if there is a CNC machine with simple software that someone could pick up fairly quickly and easily with no experience in software or hardware.

  • @Lierofox
    @Lierofox 8 лет назад

    Oh hey, I just noticed that Tursi Lion is one of the Special Thanks folks! I miss hanging out with that guy.

  • @SardiPax
    @SardiPax 8 лет назад

    Amazing tool. One day maybe I'll be able to buy one.

  • @locouk
    @locouk 8 лет назад

    That's incredible, no doubt it can take on polycarbonate sheeting too. It would be ideal for one off and short run projects.

  • @tiitsaul9036
    @tiitsaul9036 8 лет назад +9

    that's very cool concept. thanks for sharing