Greetings! Been a while! Quick correction that nobody will care about, but at 9:06 I think I referred to the showreel as the 2023 showreel when it's actually the 2022 showreel... I was thinking of the 2023 products which is why I said it. Happy to gaslight Autodesk for that error! BTW for context, I never thought to mention this cos of time, the "constraint failure" comment was a video for a customer success story! Where they take cameras to a company using Inventor to tell a story about how great they're doing with it... hence why it was hillarious to me that they left that in the video!
I've never been to college or even taken a course. Heck, I'm not even much of a computer guy but after five months of using inventor, I'm still as excited as the first day I sat down at the keyboard. I'm constantly learning and always watching the amazing vids on youtube. I'm a welder/ fabricator and I designed a few successful things over the many years at my job. They figured I should just jump in and try some computer aided design. Now I get to do it all day long and I got so hooked that I even bought my own license just so I could keep learning (and playing) on my own time. Tech3D is my favorite inventor channel for quick easy to follow lessons. You really do a good job showing off the utility of the software. Thanks for all you do and don't stop teaching, your one of the good ones.
As an educator I can tell you Autodesk are pushing Fusion really hard. The vast majority of learning materials produced by Autodesk on their education community are now mostly centred on Fusion 360. All the great Inventor content that was there has been moved/removed. Clear to see where Autodesk sees the future of Inventor. I distrust the motivation behind Fusion. It's "all-in" - once you've committed all your IP to Fusion, you're fully committed. If you wanted to switch to Solidwords (or even Inventor) you'd be up the proverbial creek.
What's worse is that they are labeling other products within Autodesk Fusion as well. When I speak to fellow Vault admins/users, they think Fusion is a PDM add on system for Cloud Vault or whatever it is. They know nothing about the Fusion modeling program b/c of the sales on the Fusion PDM or PLM is it Fusion Lifecycle is so prevalent. Point is we're confused and ignoring it. Inventor is our main Modeling program. Video idea: Explain the differences between all the Fusions out there.
I learned autodesk inventor in highschool and I wish I had learned freecad/openscad/cadquery instead so I wouldnt need an expensive license and proprietary software to maintain my skills and do 3d modelling.
Great vid Neil. Been using Inventor for a long time. I started my own RC car chassis business last year and use Inventor for everything. Plotting the CG on a rock crawler chassis and fine tuning component placement has been a huge part of my design process.
Hello, I started using Inventor in my apprenticeship in school. I specifically liked to visit an extra class after main class to get started with CAD. 5 Years later after finishing my apprenticeship and on top of that catching up with my A-Levels I am studying mechanical engineering in my fourth semester. We started using Siemens Programm Solid Edge as a ground level tool for CAD work at unversity. 2 Semester later I started working part time as a student employee and on work we were using Inventor:) So I found out about a student license offered by our university for Autodesk Inventor aswell. Since then I tried mastering Inventor and tried making It my own playground with individual settings and all that:) Today I am building my first new PC in 10 years.. I am excited! Great Video, thanks.
I have been watching your vids for years when they show up on my RUclips home page and I think they are always good but I have to give you a serious thumbs up on this one for the iLogic example that you showed at 7:20 in this video beucase I work for D3 Technologies headquartered in Springfield, MO, USA.
Thanks man, appreciated! I found that clip on the official Autodesk Inventor channel so you guys must have provided some footage for them in the past! But just as a side note, I used that one as it was one of the best visual examples of iLogic I could find!
Hi Neil. Thanks for all the great vids since tfi. They're very educative. I love the way you explained vault, iparts, etc. Now this! You're a Saint. Say, what about iLogic? Is it something for you? If so, can you please make one?
I just installed Autodesk Inventor 2023 and im trying to open a drawing which i created in 2022 version...but it's not opening getting error (could not be opened)
I guess the best time is either when you want to or need/have to learn it. Mine was when I had to learn it. Everyone has a different style of how the prefer to learn, some people prefer to read books or take an online course at their own pace, other people prefer a classroom with a teacher. For me, I picked something in the house and just started trying to model it from scratch with no help at all. And whenever I hit problems I would just trial-and-error with things, poke and prod around, see what all the buttons did until most of them made some kind of sense. So that was me, and that was before there was any RUclips videos in existence to help so it should be quite easier now. But for timing, just don't force it because you'll lose interest, you have to want to learn something like this as it's a journey. But pick something visually interesting to model and have a crack, I modelled a laptop but you could model a 3D printer or an iPhone, or the keyboard right in front of you
Off topic from this video, but do you know how to smooth the surface of a model in Inventor? I used a tutorial on how to convert an STL to a STEP in FreeCad. I imported a half-spherical object and you can kind of see the triangles in the final print. Do you know of a way to smooth it out back to a dome shape in Inventor? I've kind of back myself into a corner with other methods because I've already added hours of editing custom embossing onto the shape and it's in its "final state" except for the triangles creasing the half-sphere are showing up in the final print
@@Neil3D oh cool anything in specific. Or any brands to follow. This is my first step into the windows world. Typucally model cars in alias on a Mac and render in keyshot . But am looking to get more into alias>vred
Correct me if I'm wrong but Fusion doesn't have the engineering centric accelerators i.e. frames, columns, beams, bolted connections, gears etc this wasn't meant to be a fusion vs inventor video but inventor grossly outweighs Fusion for engineering specific toolsets, it would just take several hours to list them all off in a single video tbh. Fusion is more focused towards hands on manufacturing but Inventor is more capable at product design in heavy engineering and bigger industry, it's all arguable but that's my POV!
ruclips.net/video/3m5qxZm_JqM/видео.html - here's the full length version, I had to chop it down a little for time but it's definitely worth watching the full length version!
What Inventor doesn't have; proper startup programs. Siemens, Dassault and Ansys all have startup programs to help startups and bind them to the their brands.
Agreed, maybe they internally pitched Fusion 360 as the startup program to Inventor... in fact I recall Hooper stating that Fusion was a stepping stone to Inventor in our interview a few years ago, but that's now grew legs and took off so yea, it could really do with that. I also don't like all the secrecy around the whats new and beta program, building hype around whats new and whats coming can raise profile and awareness but instead its all done behind closed doors. I've voiced those concerns though, and highly unlikely it'll change!
A Brief History of BIM "40 Years Ago" ArchiCAD was developed in 1982 in Budapest, Hungary, by Gábor Bojár, a physicist who rebelled against the communist government and began a private company. Gábor wrote the initial lines of code by pawning his wife's jewelry and smuggling Apple Computers through the Iron Curtain. Using similar technology as the Building Description System, the software Radar CH was released in 1984 for the Apple Lisa Operating System. This later became ArchiCAD, which makes ArchiCAD the first BIM software that was made available on a personal computer. -arch daily
8:06 - constrain failure...at first I was "hahahaha noob" but then I was like I would probably do the same if I was in front of a camera...also no one will ever notice that except of us "special" people LOL
Haha but you know there's a camera behind you filming you, they would have set up the shot and composed it, lined it up, ready... and ACTION etc so she knew they were rolling! Why not just turn to them and say ahhhhh shit, look, Inventor has just thrown an error can we cut and do it again haha I would anyway, although you can't see her face so she probs doesnt care!
The front is not suppose to fall of. What makes u think is was? oh the argument is so classy that they feel like they were not taking about the shit anymore🤣
I say WTF to Inventor all the time. Mainly when if goes "No meaningful result" while only doing half the job. (ie only doing the chamfer on half of a symmetrical part)
I hear that all the time going both ways, people hating Solidworks after having used Inventor and then how you say. It can be down to what you're used to and expectations.
I use solidworks for some my workflow, basically I I am inventor guy, the only thing I like in solidworks is its better graphics & the way it rotate object without need of recentering.
Surely you can get used to it. It’s not that much different. NX will always be my favorite and I hated CATIA for years (mostly because it’s different than NX). Then at a later job, I ended up learning SW and Inventor at the same time. While I’d probably slightly prefer SW, I’ve used Inventor for 4 years now in my own small engineering business. SW is just more money than I want to spend on CAD/CAM. I slightly prefer it, but I don’t see the cost justification. Inventor subscription comes with Fusion too which can be handy.
They are so similar, which is the problem. You find yourself using your shortcuts your learned tips/tricks and it’s wired into your muscle memory and it just doesn’t transfer. Plus Inventor just couldn’t figure out the sketch I just drew I want to extrude and they just confused the hell out of it which I never experienced with SolidWorks. The forums tend to agree with Inventor being king of Bizarre bugs.
Actually, this is a great video. But I want to say... W! T! F! was that clip with the front falling off!!! O M G ! ! ! Initially I actually thought it was a real political talk show. Now, I'm leaning more towards a comedy sketch (?) I so want this to have happened for real though...
Neil, is it possible for you to do a rebuttal video to all the crap SolidWorks videos out there saying that they are the "Gold Standard" of 3D CAD? I've been working with both Inventor and SW and it usually takes me 2X longer to get something modelled, let alone assembled in SW. Yet the "experts" of SW are smugly making videos doing a comparison and SW always wins....fairy tales. Sorry for the rant, mate, they just cheese me off. 😞
I wan only taught inventor in school, and it was a complete waste. I've never had a job that used it. Solidworks or Rhino seem to rule the manufacturing space in my area.
its another autoschiet product that boomers love to use because they cant be bothered to learn another better program with the dementia and all... plus audoschiet loves to list all their product "support" but its all junk that corrupts file and has strange glitches.
I absolutely hate Inventor. Absolute garbage on hardware/driver incompatibilities. The very selection tool is frustrating crap, I cant tell you how frustrating it is to try to do work when SELECTION sucks. When searching for jobs after college, I would turn down any that used Inventor. Have used Rhino and Solidworks for years now happily. Other programs work way better for specialized simulation needs etc.
It’s not that bad. I have 13 years with NX and CATIA, a year with SW, and 5 years with Inventor. NX is my favorite but it’s so $$$. Inventor is good value for the $, a better value than SW in my opinion. I do slightly prefer SW but I pay for my own license and I choose Inventor.
Greetings! Been a while! Quick correction that nobody will care about, but at 9:06 I think I referred to the showreel as the 2023 showreel when it's actually the 2022 showreel... I was thinking of the 2023 products which is why I said it. Happy to gaslight Autodesk for that error! BTW for context, I never thought to mention this cos of time, the "constraint failure" comment was a video for a customer success story! Where they take cameras to a company using Inventor to tell a story about how great they're doing with it... hence why it was hillarious to me that they left that in the video!
I've never been to college or even taken a course. Heck, I'm not even much of a computer guy but after five months of using inventor, I'm still as excited as the first day I sat down at the keyboard. I'm constantly learning and always watching the amazing vids on youtube. I'm a welder/ fabricator and I designed a few successful things over the many years at my job. They figured I should just jump in and try some computer aided design. Now I get to do it all day long and I got so hooked that I even bought my own license just so I could keep learning (and playing) on my own time. Tech3D is my favorite inventor channel for quick easy to follow lessons. You really do a good job showing off the utility of the software. Thanks for all you do and don't stop teaching, your one of the good ones.
As an educator I can tell you Autodesk are pushing Fusion really hard. The vast majority of learning materials produced by Autodesk on their education community are now mostly centred on Fusion 360. All the great Inventor content that was there has been moved/removed. Clear to see where Autodesk sees the future of Inventor. I distrust the motivation behind Fusion. It's "all-in" - once you've committed all your IP to Fusion, you're fully committed. If you wanted to switch to Solidwords (or even Inventor) you'd be up the proverbial creek.
What's worse is that they are labeling other products within Autodesk Fusion as well. When I speak to fellow Vault admins/users, they think Fusion is a PDM add on system for Cloud Vault or whatever it is. They know nothing about the Fusion modeling program b/c of the sales on the Fusion PDM or PLM is it Fusion Lifecycle is so prevalent. Point is we're confused and ignoring it. Inventor is our main Modeling program.
Video idea: Explain the differences between all the Fusions out there.
I learned autodesk inventor in highschool and I wish I had learned freecad/openscad/cadquery instead so I wouldnt need an expensive license and proprietary software to maintain my skills and do 3d modelling.
Great vid Neil. Been using Inventor for a long time. I started my own RC car chassis business last year and use Inventor for everything. Plotting the CG on a rock crawler chassis and fine tuning component placement has been a huge part of my design process.
Ooooo congrats and good luck with that! Sounds exciting!
@Tech3D Thank you! 👍
25 years !!. Neil you're doing a cracking job with AutoDesk products. Continued success
Neil, you're a saint for doing all of this for us; incl. your work with InvMark and the forum!
I would like to thank you for all the hard work you provide, i have learned so much from you, you're a great man !
Any available document about evolution of Inventor .. milestones?
Thanks
Hello, I started using Inventor in my apprenticeship in school. I specifically liked to visit an extra class after main class to get started with CAD.
5 Years later after finishing my apprenticeship and on top of that catching up with my A-Levels I am studying mechanical engineering in my fourth semester.
We started using Siemens Programm Solid Edge as a ground level tool for CAD work at unversity.
2 Semester later I started working part time as a student employee and on work we were using Inventor:)
So I found out about a student license offered by our university for Autodesk Inventor aswell.
Since then I tried mastering Inventor and tried making It my own playground with individual settings and all that:)
Today I am building my first new PC in 10 years..
I am excited!
Great Video, thanks.
I have been watching your vids for years when they show up on my RUclips home page and I think they are always good but I have to give you a serious thumbs up on this one for the iLogic example that you showed at 7:20 in this video beucase I work for D3 Technologies headquartered in Springfield, MO, USA.
Thanks man, appreciated! I found that clip on the official Autodesk Inventor channel so you guys must have provided some footage for them in the past! But just as a side note, I used that one as it was one of the best visual examples of iLogic I could find!
Why isn’t Autodesk uploading new inventor tutorías etc?
@Marc Goozen yeah you got a good point, thanks
Lmk if you need design tips on inventor I’ve been using it for 10 years already.
Hi Neil. Thanks for all the great vids since tfi. They're very educative. I love the way you explained vault, iparts, etc. Now this! You're a Saint. Say, what about iLogic? Is it something for you? If so, can you please make one?
Could it be possible to run Inventor or Fusion on Windows 365 cloud pc?
I just installed Autodesk Inventor 2023 and im trying to open a drawing which i created in 2022 version...but it's not opening getting error (could not be opened)
Mechanical Desktop built on Autocad R13. Couldn't create a single usable drawing in that release (R13). Had to go from R12 to R14.
Well you definitely predate me! My 25 years began in '97 on AutoCAD R14!
@@Neil3D part timer
Please, teach us some of the environment to design mechanical components like pulleys, shafts, etc..
I loved using mechanical Desktop back in the early 2000’s, I made about 50 VBA programs for MDT. I was nicer than iLogic IMO
@3:08 LMAO I haven't seen that video in awhile. Thank You for the laugh
Great video m8!
Hi Neil.
Do you know what plans Autodesk have related to joining with IrisVR?
It sounds interesting.
Maybe something new VR related?
Neil, when's the best time to learn inventor, and how? Being that it has a ridiculous amount of features?Books, lessons, before Uni? after Uni?
I guess the best time is either when you want to or need/have to learn it. Mine was when I had to learn it. Everyone has a different style of how the prefer to learn, some people prefer to read books or take an online course at their own pace, other people prefer a classroom with a teacher. For me, I picked something in the house and just started trying to model it from scratch with no help at all. And whenever I hit problems I would just trial-and-error with things, poke and prod around, see what all the buttons did until most of them made some kind of sense. So that was me, and that was before there was any RUclips videos in existence to help so it should be quite easier now. But for timing, just don't force it because you'll lose interest, you have to want to learn something like this as it's a journey. But pick something visually interesting to model and have a crack, I modelled a laptop but you could model a 3D printer or an iPhone, or the keyboard right in front of you
Off topic from this video, but do you know how to smooth the surface of a model in Inventor? I used a tutorial on how to convert an STL to a STEP in FreeCad. I imported a half-spherical object and you can kind of see the triangles in the final print. Do you know of a way to smooth it out back to a dome shape in Inventor? I've kind of back myself into a corner with other methods because I've already added hours of editing custom embossing onto the shape and it's in its "final state" except for the triangles creasing the half-sphere are showing up in the final print
🤣🤣🤣 the constrain error!!!!🤣🤣🤣 at least its not just me!!!
Hey any recommendations on laptops for alias and Vred (automotive focus). Would love any tips!
Might want to wait just a very short while to see if anything new is coming out soon on that front!
@@Neil3D oh cool anything in specific. Or any brands to follow. This is my first step into the windows world. Typucally model cars in alias on a Mac and render in keyshot . But am looking to get more into alias>vred
I feel like most of what you said about Inventor exists in Fusion 360 although they look very different applications.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Fusion doesn't have the engineering centric accelerators i.e. frames, columns, beams, bolted connections, gears etc this wasn't meant to be a fusion vs inventor video but inventor grossly outweighs Fusion for engineering specific toolsets, it would just take several hours to list them all off in a single video tbh. Fusion is more focused towards hands on manufacturing but Inventor is more capable at product design in heavy engineering and bigger industry, it's all arguable but that's my POV!
Thanks bro.
where did you get that clip from,its hillarious 🤣
ruclips.net/video/3m5qxZm_JqM/видео.html - here's the full length version, I had to chop it down a little for time but it's definitely worth watching the full length version!
What Inventor doesn't have; proper startup programs. Siemens, Dassault and Ansys all have startup programs to help startups and bind them to the their brands.
Agreed, maybe they internally pitched Fusion 360 as the startup program to Inventor... in fact I recall Hooper stating that Fusion was a stepping stone to Inventor in our interview a few years ago, but that's now grew legs and took off so yea, it could really do with that.
I also don't like all the secrecy around the whats new and beta program, building hype around whats new and whats coming can raise profile and awareness but instead its all done behind closed doors. I've voiced those concerns though, and highly unlikely it'll change!
A Brief History of BIM "40 Years Ago"
ArchiCAD was developed in 1982 in Budapest, Hungary, by Gábor Bojár, a physicist who rebelled against the communist government and began a private company. Gábor wrote the initial lines of code by pawning his wife's jewelry and smuggling Apple Computers through the Iron Curtain. Using similar technology as the Building Description System, the software Radar CH was released in 1984 for the Apple Lisa Operating System. This later became ArchiCAD, which makes ArchiCAD the first BIM software that was made available on a personal computer.
-arch daily
Great vid, thanks Neil. Keep beating them across the head!
"Yeah. The ones where the front doesn't fall off" 😂😂
ruclips.net/video/3m5qxZm_JqM/видео.html - there's the full length version, it's gold!
Never heard 'boil my piss', will use that now ahah
8:06 - constrain failure...at first I was "hahahaha noob" but then I was like I would probably do the same if I was in front of a camera...also no one will ever notice that except of us "special" people LOL
Haha but you know there's a camera behind you filming you, they would have set up the shot and composed it, lined it up, ready... and ACTION etc so she knew they were rolling! Why not just turn to them and say ahhhhh shit, look, Inventor has just thrown an error can we cut and do it again haha I would anyway, although you can't see her face so she probs doesnt care!
2 yrs later: i think that might have been just an drive dimension message
The front is not suppose to fall of. What makes u think is was? oh the argument is so classy that they feel like they were not taking about the shit anymore🤣
Love Inventor. Would drop Fusion in a heartbeat if Autodesk added timeline modeling to Inventor.
They know this. That’s why they wont :(
I say WTF to Inventor all the time. Mainly when if goes "No meaningful result" while only doing half the job. (ie only doing the chamfer on half of a symmetrical part)
9:17 *Thumbs-up*
Keep on beating them😂
Very good expose, swearing is unnecessary.
3:05😂
I despise Inventor, having come from a Solidworks business and put on Inventor, I still hate it after 7 months.
I hear that all the time going both ways, people hating Solidworks after having used Inventor and then how you say. It can be down to what you're used to and expectations.
I use solidworks for some my workflow, basically I I am inventor guy, the only thing I like in solidworks is its better graphics & the way it rotate object without need of recentering.
Surely you can get used to it. It’s not that much different. NX will always be my favorite and I hated CATIA for years (mostly because it’s different than NX). Then at a later job, I ended up learning SW and Inventor at the same time. While I’d probably slightly prefer SW, I’ve used Inventor for 4 years now in my own small engineering business. SW is just more money than I want to spend on CAD/CAM. I slightly prefer it, but I don’t see the cost justification. Inventor subscription comes with Fusion too which can be handy.
They are so similar, which is the problem. You find yourself using your shortcuts your learned tips/tricks and it’s wired into your muscle memory and it just doesn’t transfer. Plus Inventor just couldn’t figure out the sketch I just drew I want to extrude and they just confused the hell out of it which I never experienced with SolidWorks. The forums tend to agree with Inventor being king of Bizarre bugs.
Actually, this is a great video. But I want to say... W! T! F! was that clip with the front falling off!!! O M G ! ! !
Initially I actually thought it was a real political talk show. Now, I'm leaning more towards a comedy sketch (?)
I so want this to have happened for real though...
Neil, is it possible for you to do a rebuttal video to all the crap SolidWorks videos out there saying that they are the "Gold Standard" of 3D CAD? I've been working with both Inventor and SW and it usually takes me 2X longer to get something modelled, let alone assembled in SW. Yet the "experts" of SW are smugly making videos doing a comparison and SW always wins....fairy tales.
Sorry for the rant, mate, they just cheese me off. 😞
wish I could afford it... honestly, i miss it. productivity has took a dive
I wan only taught inventor in school, and it was a complete waste. I've never had a job that used it. Solidworks or Rhino seem to rule the manufacturing space in my area.
its another autoschiet product that boomers love to use because they cant be bothered to learn another better program with the dementia and all... plus audoschiet loves to list all their product "support" but its all junk that corrupts file and has strange glitches.
Autodesk is criminal extortion.
ah... constraint failures... what a noob, lol *cough *cough😅
I absolutely hate Inventor. Absolute garbage on hardware/driver incompatibilities. The very selection tool is frustrating crap, I cant tell you how frustrating it is to try to do work when SELECTION sucks. When searching for jobs after college, I would turn down any that used Inventor. Have used Rhino and Solidworks for years now happily. Other programs work way better for specialized simulation needs etc.
How does selection suck? What can't it select that you'd want to select?
Why is this person watching this video? Is this a set up?
blahhhh
What is inventor? Crap. Cheap crap.
It’s not that bad. I have 13 years with NX and CATIA, a year with SW, and 5 years with Inventor. NX is my favorite but it’s so $$$. Inventor is good value for the $, a better value than SW in my opinion. I do slightly prefer SW but I pay for my own license and I choose Inventor.