Native Instruments KONTROL MK3 - My First Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Disclosure: Gear provided by the manufacturer. Today we are checking out the NEW Komplete Kontrol keyboard. Unboxing, first impressions & some actual beats on Bobeats! How about that! Big thanks to NI for sending it over AND keep in mind I am on beta software.
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CONTENT
00:00 Unboxing
01:45 First test with Komplete Kontrol software
07:25 Does it work well with Cubase?!
11:00 Making a Beat from Scratch
16:18 Should you buy it?! Concluding thoughts
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Poly aftertouch! FINALLY! 😍
Very nice indeed… and than again, it’s by Native Instruments; so waiting and trusting them on releasing software fixes and improvements can be tricky bet lately. The way how they treat their customers with Maschine+ is simply rude. And, it’s not the only advanced piece of hardware that suffers from bad support and a lack of updates. So for me NI has to shine on other parts first before I buy their new hardware.
Makes alot of sense!
One issue I have with NI, on top of the glacial pace of software development, is the fact that they tend to break things in updates and never get around to fixing them. The button lighting hasn't worked properly on my KK S49 mk1 since one of the Komplete Kontrol updates a few years ago. I filed an extensive bug report immediately after the release; they said they were working on it, but never fixed any of it. My confidence that they still have competent software engineers is really shaken, and the half-baked software support for this new keyboard seems like more of the same.
@@st0rmchild maybe the change of architecture also made them change the required development skills… humm… this could be wishful thinking…? My experience with the development of the Maschine Plus software is exactly the same. Last year they introduced a start-up bug, which took them almost two months to fix. No rollback option, nothing… just wait for the fix… which also was the last update we’ve seen for this device. I really hope the promised 1.5 update will eventually be released and stabilizes the M+ in its current capabilities.
@@st0rmchild I'm a software dev, this kind of thing has absolutely nothing to do with software dev competence. Less than zero actually.
I find it bizarre that people think that software devs get to prioritize whatever feature they like, as if they never have dumb management people setting priorities often incorrectly that they are forced to listen to.
I can almost guarantee that the button lighting issue you have went something like this: Manager: "we need this thing to do X,Y and Z to impress A and B, by monday. Get on it!" Devs: "That can't be done without risking a bunch of existing functionality, and possibly adding bugs, we can't test it that fast!" Manager: "DO YOU NOT HEAR ME? If you don't get it done, you get no Christmas bonuses this year!"
Devs most of the time care about 'their baby', managers don't. Devs know their project very well most of the time, managers barely even know in general terms what it does. Above all: managers make bad decisions often, devs almost always know better.
Nice, such a beautifully designed experience! If money were no object...
Great review thanks !
Similar... Polyphonic after touch and improved quality and aesthetics. Love it ❤👏
I think it's a quality update of the previous version, but not an upgrade really. I wonder if the MK2 will have any limitations when the new software comes out, but it's a beautifully made controller for sure.
That looks great with the new upgraded interface 😎
I just purchased an s88 mk2, so it makes sense that a new version would get announced the moment I received the delivery. :P
ouch 😅
Very nice Improvisation you did there. Would you recommend this thing for someone who doesn't own a 88 key keyboard yet? I've only used Arturia so far, but want more than five octaves now
Thank You Bo! 👍
That groove/beat at the end was jamming - until you started rapping! :)
well thank you, I guess!
Don’t try to play Bo like that!
😂
All that blank space unused. Should’ve put some pads on that thing.
Nice screen though. Not very tempting.
Is there any X Y midi device that could fit on that blank space?
EXACTLY!... 💯
Finally NI keyboards are also useful in a DAW and not just in their own ecosystem. This is a good sign they finally are moving in the right direction. Curious to see how it will work with other 3rd party plugins and DAWs, and as center master keyboard for a synth setup; as I suspect that as stand alone is still very limited compared to other competitors like arturia for example.
Well, what an refreshingly positive take! While I think its frustrating that they ditched Maschine support I do agree that the future support for other DAW is looking very positive! For a synth setup I am not sure I would recommend it tho. For that SL mk3, Keystep Pro etc is the way.
@@BoBeats Yeah, there are pros and cons of course... I honestly walked away from NI S series because it is heavily specialized in their ecosystem, and I need something that works with a lot of different hardware and software, so the current gen of S keyboards won't do... But this one for the first time seems as appealing as the SL MK3 or the Arturia counterparts... My ideal keyboard would be a fully programmable and configurable one, but clearly they want you to be tied to their ecosystem, so I get their point of view too.
Maybe if their software is flexible enough, it may give the SL a run for its money? I still expect the price range to be about 600 dollars for the 61 keys or so; so won't be cheap for sure.
Also you mention no Maschine support? So it won't work at all with it? That is disappointing :(
Maschine has support for Kontrol and Kontakt I believe, but lacks the deep support of previous gen keyboards. Its not designed with that integration in mind, clearly, because it lacks certain buttons for Maschine integration. Its a shame. How any future integration will look we have to wait and see, as we could still get some M integration. At least i am hoping for it.
I don’t trust NI anymore for future updates. They never improved Ableton Live integration on the MK2 and they had plenty of room to do that. They broke NKS 3rd party support on the MK2 months ago and it is still broken. I can load 3rd party plugins but none of the parameter controls work. Opened a ticket. NI replied to me that they were able to reproduce the problem but so far no fix… Groups of parameters (or better use of the screens in general) has been asked for several years. Still not there on the MK2. Will they brought that back to the MK2 when it is available for the MK3? I hope so but I am pretty sure they won’t. I still like my MK2 but compared to other companies (like Ableton for instance), updates are really slow to come out and usually really disappointed.
@@ChristopheTornieri Yeah. Native Instruments is a company that treats their customers horribly and all the influencers hyping their stuff without mentioning any sort of negativities in their videos are sellouts.
Seems like a really nice device for PC-based music creation with Native Instruments-compatible software.
I was wondering do you have any 3rd party non nks libraries in kontakt 7 that load in mk3 with or without graphics.. just curious if the controller will see all in kontakt 6 even if there not NKS supported?
Looks like a beautiful midi controller/keyboard. Kudos to you for actually demostrating it while playing and writing music. Most videos are just showing features with little to zero music demos. Music is everything. So, again, appeciate your efforts most.
Personally, I play guitar but want to create my own music. That means drum tracks, bass tracks, and the endless possibilties using a midi keyboard.... yet, I really want to remain focused on guitar.
So, after endless hours (still ongoing), I think I need software/plugins like Easy Drummer to lay down drum tracks. Similarly, Easy Bass. Really like how Easy Drummer can take my guitar track and create (quite well) a drum track that fits. Its also fun to use its song feature, and auto-create all the drums for a song, then write music (guitar tracks) to fit. I also found that once I have midi drum tracks, swapping in Superior Drummer results in much more professional sounding drums. So, its never simple is it?
Now you might get... I need a midi keyboard to "possibly" make my own drum or bass lines, but, for me, its way more often I just want to add keyboard, synth, or what you normally expect of a keyboard. I'm getting a feeling this midi keyboard is focused on the keyboard player/songwriter who wants to do it all from their keyboard. Not a guitarist like me. Nothing wrong with that.
NOTE: I have touchscreens for my DAW. So, I don't need much DAW control in the keyboard... a few features are great, but I don't need to mix from the keyboard. What I really want is at least 61 keys and great touch sensitivity, and quality, and integration with a DAW... but mostly so all the keys match all the plugins for the sound you want. I do like the lighted keys that help with what you are doing though.
Love your review, it was great.
So far (not done looking), I an leaning towards Arturia KeyLab 61 MkII Professional. It has features I don't think I need, but overall leans more towards what I do need. Still reviewing, so who knows and I still have to go try them in person... and my opinion... always... radically... changes with hands on experience.
Waiting to see what Arturias next keylab offering in an 88 key gives us poly aft before I purchase
Always dope Bo. So I need to find out how you got yours rocking because you and Jef have them working and mine is not. Which is weird. Are you using a MacOS? I'm using Windows so maybe that way the issue without updates may be? Nevertheless great review. I just did a first look. Can't wait to see in Oct once it's done and Cubase does their thing. Blessings! 💯
Im on Mac OS correct! It wasn’t without hassle I got it working due to the beta software and firmware. But once I managed it ran smooth
I love the action on my S61 MK3. It's more substantial than the one on my, just sold, Arturia Keylab MK2, but not quite a piano action. That is perfect for me in a keyboard that will be used to play a variety of instruments.
Hi. Great Video as Usual and I want your opinion on this keyboard. I just purchased a MK2 a couple weeks ago and I wondered if I should return it (I have forty-five days to return it free of charge) and pay 250.00 to get the MK3? Thanks Again for the Great Videos.
If you dont use Maschine and forsee yourself using Kontakt and Komplete Kontrol / NI software alot then its not a bad idea
Why It feels like there’s delay in When you turn Knob and parameters move. Idk maybe it just me.
I almost pre ordered this morning….. glad these videos came out. Upgrades might make it worth it but for now, business as usual with the MKII
Yeah better chill a bit and see how it develops
What would be a good pack to buy integrated with this keyboard for instruments and sounds for hip-hop/EDM? Komplete 14 Standard?
Is it possible to use the (Komplete kontrol S) Play Assist feature with other VST plug-ins???
Apart from aftertouch it does not seem like a big upgrade over the MK2. Not sure how a new internal CPU will help, these days most PC's are powerfull enough to handle any DAW's. No Maschine integration??
What key version would you reccomend? im torn between 49/88K... mostly since I want to learn how to play the piano but the price of the 88K IDK...
Finally one yt with cubase - i like the PAT even as a non keyboard player, it will offer lots of expression possiblies i guess
Oh man. Mortal Kombat 3 was such a good game.
The lights are from the MK first generation
I ordered the S88 but though the keys were WAY too heavy. They are easily 3 times more heavy than my grand piano. So I sent it back, planning on getting the smaller S61 instead, but that means I need another keyboard for piano (my grand sadly does not have midi).
Sadly the much sought after arp/scales feature still requires KK to be running. If that was built in, I might have considered it, but as a KK S61 mkII owner they’ve lost me with this update. We’ve been promised firmware updates for years for ours to integrate with Kontakt (with lightguide) and arp/chords outside Komplete Kontrol, but nothing. And this dropped Maschine support too apparently. But they did add midi 2.0 for reasons passing understanding. Very strange move by NI. Nice video though :)
It will be interesting seeing how they move forward
What's really odd is the Kontrol mk3 keyboards actually have a computer in them, so they absolutely could have implemented the arp/scale features on-device, but still chose not to. It can't be that hard to do - my tiny, cheap Novation LaunchKey Mini mk3 has a really powerful arpeggiator built into it and it all works standalone with no companion software.
@@st0rmchild we'll see how they choose to develop the keyboard. Mostly I am seeing MK2 functionality on it, but as you say it should be possible to go far beyond that. So who knows, since there's alot of people wishing for it I could see it happen. But again, dont take my word for it. Leave feedback, wait, and see what happens.
@@BoBeats I'm still using a mk1 and really looking forward to upgrading. Just need them to restore the missing MIDI template and Maschine functionality, at least to where it was on the mk1.
Actually I'm not running to replace my MKii. Simply it doesn't add anything I can't do now with the MKii. It's just nicer hardware. Groups in NKS Macro's is the only thing I can think of. But I guess that will be introduced to de MKII also.
Mk2 can’t do poly aftertouch, but that may not be a huge plus for you.
@@MrSNEAKFREAK96 That's true. But you can change aftertouch to poly aftertouch in post editing. And Maschine still has this super weird thing of not beïng able to record aftertouch at all!
@@WilmarBoer I just recently got a Maschine, so I’m not really familiar with using aftertouch yet. Hope they get that sorted!
@@artisans8521 I think comparing NI to those other brands is a bit apples and oranges. I do agree that Maschine software needs a good overhaul though
@@MrSNEAKFREAK96helps for orchestral compositions. Not a deal breaker
Do you think this keyboard are good? If I'd want purchase it to become my first keyboard ?😅... I'm curious
Very nice keyboard, definitely not upgrading from my MK2 for it though.
No need really the mk2 is very good still
Still No drum pads??? WTF???
Looks like I'm stickin with my Akai Advanced 61!!
Looks really nice, but the lack of pads and sliders is a deal breaker for me. The features it does have definitely seem like a step-up in quality, however.
hows the keys and keybed feel? similar to previous gen?
Better, definitely
Poly aftertouch, great! I realy miss this 90s technology on the "modern keyboards". If NI did it in 88 notes with light/synth action keyboard at a fair price it could have been my new controler if it had a set of 3 or 4 faders on the left hand.
But no. Pity.
Actualy I don't care about the nice screen and the komplete control integration, I never use that and I definitely don't care seing few tracks as my DAW which is just in front of me on a larger screen.
DOES IT WORK WITH MACBOOK PRO M3 max chip ?
After you played, you went back to the computer to make edits, instead of making track edits on the Keyboard. That was very telling. Looks like Kontrol keyboard still doesn’t replace even the most basic DAW controls.
I'm currently rocking the S88 MK2 and I was hoping that the MK3 would have a angled screen that was pointing at my face instead of the ceiling or even better a tiltable screen so you can choose the angle. Also, is there a way to dim the brightness of the screen to prevent screen fade which happens over time? a dedicated knob next to the screen would be perfect, just like my old AKAI S6000
A question friend, are the keys feel the same as the previous model?
I’d say they are improved. Not by a massive amount but they do feel better.
I wonder if they will ever make a 37 key
Does it work with cubase 10 ?
Can we create multis now with the new software ?
in kk no, with direct connection to kontakt yes
I would really like for this model to have also touch screen. I feel that is something that's missing 😕
Not bad for a thousand bucks.
16:06 "nothing is built to last" planned obsolescence confirmed
The levels in the mixer view look really laggy and low frame rate. Hopefully a beta issue that will be sorted out soon.
I don't see what's new with the Cubase integration, you can do all of this in the previous generation. If they were serious about DAW integration, the knob would have been a jog wheel.
All this and the arp still doesn’t record in the “arped” pattern into the daw, but rather the one note you actually played in? What a disappointment! Same with the smart/chord mode.
I’ll stick with my Novation, it’s actually smart.
That isn’t true. You can record arped patterns and chords etc in a daw. I do it all the time in cubase.
You need to configure your midi channels.
No Maschine integration. Is this a hint for a new Maschine Studio MKII? 🤔
You mean something like Maschine Keys? That would be a really stupid marketing move to first upset all their Maschine customers to the point they consider switching to MPC and then keep a coming Maschine Keys secret.
@@youtubevideos415 Yes that would be weird.
Is it the same size as mk2 S61, in which the MK2 decksaver will fit the MK3?
I highly doubt it will fit
@@BoBeats dang, ok thank you for your educated guess
No different size..by the way deck savers do more harm than good. The edges will scratch the unit from the sides when taking it on and off.for dust protection buy large microfiber pillow covers
@@machiavelli4428 thanks I seen some comparison videos and see the size difference. As for doing damage, I’ve been using Decksavers for five years. I’ve never seen any damage at all. I love seeing the transparency of all of our equipment in our studio.
So underwhelming! Didn't fix stuff users have been asking for (like user scales) and removed all the Maschine integration.
What do you mean removed machine integration?
@@faronmclurkin1103 This controller doesn't support Maschine at all. Not any functionality, not even the transport buttons do work. This is why i am criticising many RUclipsrs. Nobody has mentioned this except Loopop and maybe one other guy. All other videos are just ads for Native Instruments. They don't cover any of the serious issues this product has.
@@youtubevideos415 Agreed. It is really a step backward in some ways. Very underwhelming as a update when there's a million things they could have fixed in software that would have made users vastly happier.
@@youtubevideos415 whoa that's serious. Wtf. Why just why. Smh
This went from disappointing to insulting
Mine arrived with the keybed not bolted to the case so it moved up and down and made a horrible clacking . I returned it and won’t take the chance with NI ever again.
Guys the display, the user interface is exactly the same as the old version that now costs 1/3. They didn't introduce vector widget like you have in Push, all you got is the same old 8 knobs, there's no rich interface like an ADSR with touch screen, matrix, oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer... The ONLY thing you get is a display for the 8 knobs value, like the old model, and a splash pretty graphic that has zero function.
Even worse they removed all support for Maschine! And it's not a matter of a firmware update, they actually didn't put the buttons to control Maschine.
No pads and no CV?
Nope. Not that kind of midi controller. This one for the software peeps
Probably a n00b question but. The display can only show from the Native Instruments library, right? Not for example EastWest or any other product?
It can show anything that has the NKS label. NI is working to have more developers adopt this standard, but you cant assume anything works unless it explicitly say so. You can also use it as a generic midi controller and map knobs to cc values and that way control whatever software you want. But you should buy it because of the daw integration + integration with NKS plugins.
Thank u so much, @@BoBeats!
I dont like NI sticking to Komplete etc and Ableton as a DAW. I rarely use NKI vsts, there are much better out there. Polyafter touch is a plus, but not at this price point.
It's kind of funny how I start having dead key issues almost as soon as they release new midi controllers.
Honestly, this is a lazy upgrade. More like MK 2.5 than MK3. There should be more rotary knobs, more flexibility to customize macros on non-NI vsts. Like the people going for hardware wants hardware. Also, they could have moved the Maschine controls to the far right instead of eliminating it.
I think they are going to sneak in some features that will surprise people.
It seems Ni wants us to pair this controller with the machine mk3 to get full functionality
Only good for NI and NKS on a computer/DAW. Worst MIDI controller if used DAW-less or without the NI application running on your computer.
Would of been a great upgrade if they didn't take away more than half of the functions while dazzling everyone with a new screen. Shame it doesn't work with Maschine their own DAW...lol. Ill stick with the MK2
This seems like a second smaller monitor attached to a controller and set of poly keys. If this was a synth and standalone, it would be interesting and applicable for more use cases. Maybe my DAW-AS-LESS-AS-POSSIBLE philosophy is blind me from the value of a really fancy controller.
Dawless with Native Instruments? What are you smoking? You cannot even use the scales of chords without having a Komplete Kontrol plugin on the track you are playing. If you move to another track in your DAW with a lugin from another vendor or a stock plugin of the DAW you instantly loose almost all these features of this keyboard. It's basically just a controller for their own plugins. Nothing more. If you wanna go dawless, then you. need Akai MPC Keys. Or buy a Fantom 0 synth, that has also fabulous DAW control mode. Much better than this Native Instruments crap that doesn't even control send levels. Fantom let's you control plugins and by plugins i mean all plugins not just their own.
No maschine integration...F that! I am not buying for this reason
Would like to get the NI decision maker that said “no one uses those buttons” and make him read every one of these comments. What an imbecile.
Me likey but me can't affordy😢
Always like your reviews but ‘Meh’ on the NI mkiii - no sliders or pads - another miss for NI
Glad you like the vid!
Of course, right after I finally buy an S61 MK2 😭
We both have the same controller. We’re not missing much. Plus - assuming yours was on sale since you bought it recently, you likely saved over $/€300.
Honestly that was probably a better move
@@ohheyitskevinc Good point, I did get it on sale and saved a big chunk of change that way. I don't NEED what the MK3 brings to the table, and I am certainly loving the MK2.
It's not an unboxing video without the "without further ado"
I'm a little underwhelmed if I'm honest. I expected the keyboard to have a touch screen and to improve it's integration with non Kontakt libraries like Spitfire Audio and others who are clearly moving away from Kontakt. Native Instruments have been way ahead of their competitors for the past decade, but they've left the door open for someone to create something a little more exciting than this...
Yup. I'll hold my horses. Once again :(
NI removed all Maschine integration, an incredibly dumb move, unless they plan to abandon the Maschine platform…
I will not spend any money with NI any more until they can convince me that they still want to support and develop Maschine.
I pretty much guess the new owners of NI want to abandon Maschine. I can see no other reason for removing that functionality.
And don’t forget they are killing off Komplete Kontrol, which they shoved down our throats over the last several years as being the end all and be all of searching for sounds. I guess they saw how Akai just organized the sounds by what function they served and realized how much time they wasted in development.
Need pads.. 😢
And still lots of wasted space where 16 pads could easily fit (twice) but NI wants to sell you Maschine which is overkill if you just want to tap out some beats on battery.
This whole Komplete Kontrol MK3 fiasco is an excellent opportunity to see which RUclipsrs make honest reviews and which are only doing sponsored reviews to make money. Like this one for example. No word about the complete drop of support for Maschine. It's not even supported as a DAW mode. No mention about scale mode that doesn't work standalone or doesn't work at all in Kontakt. 90% of the users online are disappointed. But yet this video is just like an ad by Native Instruments.
No money
A nfr keyboard (meaning it has no street value)
No input from Ni on my vid
And… its a first impressions vid. Not an in depth review. Had a few days with it and I focused on how it works with Cubase. Which I was surprised work pretty well!
As I said at the end: my thoughts are that most should just wait and see if it develops into a tool that will work for you. As for Maschine support ive already sent my thoughts to NI on that and brought it up with them personally.
@@BoBeats OK, but dropping support for Maschine is a huge huge factor that will upset probably anybody, as this was one of the main reasons to get this controller for everybody who has invested in the NI infrastructure. There is no excuse not mentioning this, as people will spend their money and then getting shocked that they lost functionality, they had with earlier versions. And this is not something they can fix with software updates, as they have removed the buttons. I'm really really sad to see that Loopop is the only honest person on RUclips who has even mentioned this.
I think Jeff Gibbons brought it up too? I had my hands full is what I am saying and do you honestly think someone will watch my vid and expect it to work with Maschine? ”Bo showed it working with Cubase so ofc it will work with Maschine”. Its a vid where I showcase basic functionality and how it works with another daw. Thats the focus. And conversly: did other youtubers bring up the Cubase functionality? I assume not.
Just so im clear: im very bothered by the lack of Maschine support. I kinda wish I had included a critique of that but hindsight is always 20/20. I hope I can sway NI to make some sort of software integration possible. Not holding my breath tho
@@mjrisinsd6836Yeah, if you watch these MK3 reviews on RUclips, you see a pattern. 99% of those RUclipsrs are sellouts. They make videos how cool this is, but don't bring up any cons. Like Dylan Paris for example. In the past he used to call out Native Instruments for their bullshit with Maschine+. That's why i liked him. Now he's also seemingly on their payroll and he said this controller would be "next level" and "has no cons". Not even mentioning the removal of Maschine support. They are all sellouts and the fact that they all don't mention the removal of Maschine support shows, that their reviews are scripted and Native Instruments controls what they are allowed to say and what not.
@@BoBeatsSo are you planing a follow up video on this issue? Because we see a pattern here, many other RUclipsrs also don't said anything about Maschine support missing, although we know they are heavy Maschine users themselves. We have the impression that your video was scripted and Native Instruments controlled what you are allowed to say and what not. So if you don't make a follow up video about this, you will come off like a sellout.
Pretty expensive for a pure „controller“.
You clearly don't own Komplete 14 Collector's Edition, ya cheap bastard.
assomiglia a un sintetizzatore moderno multifunzione
is basically the same as the MK2 but with a new display and £300 more...idiocracy
I mean, pretty much everything has been improved no? It also can integrate directly with kontakt, and has polyAT(!!!). It’s also only $100 increase from the Mk2, at least for the 61 key version
@@MrSNEAKFREAK96 The MK2's integrates perfectly with Kontakt, Maschine, etc already. poly aftertouch is the only "innovation". The MK2 is £350 brand new...£675 for this one is obscene
@@FabiolousBarker You can’t browse when using kontakt on the mk2 like you can on the mk3, you have to use komplete kontrol. That’s a plus for me. Also, the MK2 is currently on sale, so it’s not really fair to use that price to compare. Should use base retail price. I think this is an improvement in every way over the mk2 for my needs. What would you have wanted?
@@MrSNEAKFREAK96 lower price? update in the MK2 software instead ripping us off with the MK3 that i will not buy until its £400?, for a midi controller the price is too high
@@FabiolousBarker Agree to disagree
We need to stop giving medals to instrument makers for putting a half decent screen on devices in 2023, screens have been cheap for over 10 years, even £50 Android tablets have capacitive touch screens that are over 720p, and again, just 8 knobs? every half assed controller has 8 knobs, in what universe is 8 knobs enough to control modern software? and we eat this shit up again and again, and get ripped off in the process.
Doe not add anything apart from the poly aftertouch. Everything else is purely software update on the pc or Mac side. Still nothing running on the keyboard itself. Support for direct access to Kontakt could have been done on mk2 several years ago. So I’ll keep my MK2! And why did they abandon the Maschine integration??? This was one of the nicest features on the mk2. Seriously, I don’t understand how much bad decisions have been made for this new product. A big disappointment from NI.
no longer supporting the machine software is tantamount to capitulation... I have no idea according to which criteria NI develops - obviously not according to the wishes of the users. Nothing of what is presented here, I need. In the end, it just boils down to the fact that at some point Komplete Software will no longer be developed for the MK2 and then you will be forced to switch to the MK3 to benefit from it.
Just the integration with Maschine has resulted in a very easy to use DAW, if only the shortcomings known for years had been fixed.
For instance it's almost laughable to think that the Maschine software still doesn't understand aftertouch. How could anyone forget something like that?
for that price and no pads.....
Waste of space for me
Waste of money. Buy an affordable Korg Workstation that has poly after touch, MIDI options and DAW compatibility. Ridiculous! No sliders!
Sadly, there is no Korg Workstation with Poly Aftertouch. If you mean Keystage...there are no sliders, too. It is smaller in depth than the NI kbd, and the 61 keys model is 150 € cheaper (still, 700 € for a simple master kbd is a bit much). It actually seems more versatile for dawless usage than the NI device, but also has the tiny tiny Korg display we know from Wavestate et cie, plus a small display per knob (only 8 knobs...). I probably will buy it for those Synths - hopefully it arrives in stores this year. NI kbd is already available here in EU.
No faders. No pads. No thank you.
Important for blind musicians.
DO NOT BUY THE MK3 THERE IS NO ACCESSIBILITY.
I have been waiting many years for a manufacturer of midi and hardware keyboards to implement accessibility for vision impaired and blind musicians. After listening to this vid I started saveing and 8 months later I finally got the money together and purchased the MK3 that came out during this time. However the MK3 has no accessibility implemented that left me floored as the only thing the MK3 offers me over my RP500 is a better feeling keybed. I have messaged Native instruments twice and still no reply, this adds to my very expensive frustration in Australia this is a $1300.00 frustration for the MK3 S61. I have been in contact with the music store that I purchased this from and they have contacted the suppliers and still nothing. The MK3 has been out for 6 months now, Where is the accessibility functionality for the MK3? This is the first time a product has had accessibility implemented in older versions and the latest and greatest has nothing to work with, this would be like Apple not including Siri in it's devices. The other frustrating thing is while waiting for the keyboard to be delivered I had purchased the spotlight Ireland software instrument so more money down the drain so far. Not happy Jan
Always the Same crap..🤦No Innovation,No mpe 😂🥱
That's what every keyboard player expects from their main keyboard pretty much. It has to feel like a traditional piano keyboard. PolyAT is as far as it goes.
Linnstrument is an innovation, but you need to re-learn everything. Osmose is a more conservative innovation, but you still need to re-learn the finger movements, to a degree.