Emerson R156 - Oscillator Coil Design Criteria & Build

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • After getting the loudspeaker back together, I turn my attention to the winding of the oscillator coil. I'll share the details of my design spreadsheet in the future after evaluating the performance of the receiver, assuming the oscillator coil actually works and the receiver is closely performing as designed.
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  • @hestheMaster
    @hestheMaster Год назад +1

    I'll have to keep this particular video in mind if I ever come across this situation. It's a good one Don!

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад +1

      Much appreciated Steve and this will serve as a reference for me down the road as well. Best, Don

  • @jimdukarich1692
    @jimdukarich1692 Год назад +1

    Very interesting presentation method. Thanks.

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! Hope to have another one uploaded soon. Thanks again Jim. Best, Don

  • @jimnewman5596
    @jimnewman5596 Год назад +2

    This is fascinating video on rebuilding the oscillator coil Don, it will be interesting to see how it works in the radio.

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад +1

      Thanks Jim. I powered it up today. Look for the video tomorrow. Hope this finds you doing well. Best, Don

  • @kwacz
    @kwacz 11 месяцев назад +3

    I like how you built the coil. It would have been nice if you explained what awg wire you used and how you determined the number of turns to initially put on before you started trimming to get the inductance you needed. Otherwise good video.
    I like the construction method.

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your feedback and taking time to reach out. I covered the design and shared my spreadsheet for download after posting this video. The AWG was #34 if I recall correctly. The playlist below has all of the videos that I published for the series. I think the 11th upload covers the design and some earlier videos may be informative as well. Thanks again for watching. All the best. Don
      Emerson R156 - Restoration Journey
      ruclips.net/p/PLjLu4V-71S1LPpJhNAOBbBlsRCi1wecO7

    • @kwacz
      @kwacz 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@RestoreOldRadios thanks, i will check it out

  • @dennisqwertyuiop
    @dennisqwertyuiop Год назад +2

    nice job

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад

      Thanks! I appreciate it Dennis. Hope to power up the old radio this week. Best, Don

  • @greggsvintageworkshop8974
    @greggsvintageworkshop8974 Год назад

    Awesome job on this Oscillator coil Don!

  • @EngineeringVignettes
    @EngineeringVignettes Год назад +1

    Did you check the self resonance point?
    Curious to know at what point the inter-winding capacitance causes just the coil to oscillate...
    The ticker winding is a 2 connection type or more like a _gimmick_ with only one connection? Sorry I don't know which tube is being used for the mixer.
    The Peak LCR meter is something i have been considering picking up... very pricey though.
    Cheers,

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад +1

      Eddy - the self resonant frequency of the BC band coil is 5.964 MHz w/ a calculated parasitic capacitance of 5.9 pF while the SW band coil is 5.208 MHz w/ a calculated parasitic capacitance of 5.48 pF. I’ll be publishing another video that shows the oscillator circuit later today and the spreadsheet I put together to simplify the inductance calculations or feel free to look at the video description for a link to the schematic for reference. Hope this helps and let me know if you have any additional questions. Best, Don

    • @EngineeringVignettes
      @EngineeringVignettes Год назад

      @@RestoreOldRadios - Thanks Don, that's a good update on the coil. Was curious about the number given the winding style you used.
      Cheers,

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад +1

      Eddy - my earlier info on parasitic capacitance & self resonant frequency was inaccurate due to my o-scope capacitance and testing procedure. Still not perfect, but I think the following numbers below are much closer as follows:
      BC band: 3.66pF @ 4.22301 MHz
      SW band: 10.99 pF @ 9.6538 MHz
      Best,
      Don

  • @stevenm6592
    @stevenm6592 Год назад +1

    Hey Don, where do your manual information from? I came across a great project to start again from. It is an old 1938 Silvertone 6123 Chassis 101.506 from the label inside the box and number on bottom of box. I got it for nothing non-working and looking underneath it appears all original.

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад

      Steven - one resource is: www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/381/M0017381.pdf Best, Don

    • @stevenm6592
      @stevenm6592 Год назад

      @@RestoreOldRadios Thanks for the Web link.

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад

      Another one for Riders: worldradiohistory.com/Rider-Manual.htm

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад

      And the Beitman Supreme at: worldradiohistory.com/Beitman-Manual.htm

  • @fibberscloset498
    @fibberscloset498 Год назад +1

    How did you tension the magnetic wire, Don?

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад +1

      Martin - laying the magnet wire on its side created enough tension. I also rotated the spool to create a slight angle back to the bobbin. Hope this helps. Best, Don

  • @samklazar8995
    @samklazar8995 10 месяцев назад

    Broadcast coil inductance you said it is0.5 mh. Is it depend on variable capacitor value?

  • @W1RMD
    @W1RMD Год назад +2

    Thanks for sharing! Did you count turns with your Arduino. Take care and have a great day!

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  Год назад +1

      Ryan, I didn’t count turns at all and decided to place two markers on the bobbin denoting the start location and end point based on the calculated length of the coil for the predetermined design inductance. I’ll share more in a future video. Thanks for reaching out. Best, Don

    • @W1RMD
      @W1RMD Год назад +1

      @@RestoreOldRadios No problem! Thanks and take care.

  • @radiotabung
    @radiotabung 5 месяцев назад +1

    hi, is there any difference for Hartley Oscillator coil?

    • @RestoreOldRadios
      @RestoreOldRadios  5 месяцев назад

      Yes, check out this resource; chapter 3 covers the Hartley… Best, Don
      www.worldradiohistory.com/BOOKSHELF-ARH/Technology/Sams-Books/Sams-Oscillator-Circuits-Adams.pdf