Blue Origin BE-4 just SHOCKED NASA! But realized SpaceX Raptor is...Musk laugh!
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- Blue Origin BE-4 just SHOCKED NASA! But realized SpaceX Raptor is...Musk laugh!
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00:00-00:46: Intro
00:47-03:24: BE-4 Testing
03:25-06:01: Does BE-4 work well?
06:02-08:30: Blue Origin's efforts
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Blue Origin BE-4 just SHOCKED NASA! But realized SpaceX Raptor is...Musk laugh!
When mentioning the name Blue Origin, we immediately think of their slow progress and delays in rocket production. The New Glenn rocket has undergone over a decade of development without any flights, and the BE-4 rocket engine has repeatedly been criticized for Blue Origin's late deliveries to their ULA customers.
Blue Origin BE-4 just SHOCKED NASA! But realized SpaceX Raptor is...Musk laugh!
However, now, faced with the superior development situation of competitors in the industry, especially SpaceX, Blue Origin can no longer sit still. For the first time in 24 years, their BE-4 engine has flown on the first flight of the Vulcan rocket, shaking the entire space industry.
And yet, they also revealed the huge things they did to the BE-4 engine to prepare for the fierce space war in the future, to the point that NASA scientists were shocked.
Blue Origin BE-4 just SHOCKED NASA! But realized SpaceX Raptor is...Musk laugh!
So, what exactly did Blue Origin just do with the BE-4 engine?
How will Blue Origin use its ace in the hole to compete with SpaceX? Is the BE-4 engine as reliable as we think it is?
Let's find out in today's episode of Alpha Tech:
With the success of the Vulcan rocket, the BE-4 engine subsequently emerged as a key factor in helping Blue Origin return to the space race.
Following a spectacular public demonstration of creating a relatively clean Mach Diamond exhaust stream, the BE-4 engine continued to be a hot topic of discussion when Blue Origin released a video of a hot-fire test with the BE-4 engine at the historic Test Stand 4670 in Huntsville, where their engine factory is located.
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So BE-4 is there ace in the hole. What hole. Money pit? I think that is about right. There is a good reason we are not hearing anything about Blue Origin. So why did they do back into building the retired Atlas rocket motor again?
Bezoes seems to be more interested in large yachts and women.
Blue Origen's owner also owns the Washington Post. Congress will make sure Bezos stays happy.
24 years to get to where space x was 10 years ago and they still have to master landing rockets....NASA sure is shocked.... Shocked I say
@Alphatech I’m going to give you advice. You’ll have much more long term success and respect with reporting straight news and presenting it as such than using clickbait graphics and phrases that would appeal to children. Know your audience. They are not stupid. You can do this. You build your audience with trust. Do not be afraid and resort to sensationalized approaches. If you don’t change, you’ll lose me a subscriber and I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels this way. Just look at the comments you garner.
It’s seems that nasa has given blue origin every use of their facilities and space X has a very limited use of nasa facilities, strange
Can you say CIA?
Nonsense!! SpaceX was offered the complete book on NASA an all its facilities. They even offered many former NASA engineers! But Musk said he knew better!! NASA has given way more money to SpaceX than BO.
Lol maybe one day BO will stop stinking. Maybe when they change the name...
they are throwing good money after bad!
Right on!
What do I think? Up to this point, I think BE4 has been a total failure. Failure to deliver on a timely basis has taken ULA to the point of bankruptcy with a sale likely. We hope it works in the future as well as the first delivered engine seems to have worked. BO dropped the expected capability to return the engines for repeated use so that makes them far more costly and means that many more engines will have to be built. Does BO have the capability to produce enough engines for the already approved projects? I think we'll have to wait and see on that one. I doubt it right now. Their history has not proven they can do it on a timely basis. Myself, there are only a couple of people I dislike the same or more than Bezos so I'm biased.
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That’s right!
It has taken BO a long time to develop their BE-4 rocket engine ; we wish them well, but they still have to prove reliable for crew, and then it is a matter of competitive at what price.
They seem to be willing to test their engines with their customers rockets. Why aren’t they test launching with their own rockets. Hmm🤔
BE-4 = Inferior Engine with inferior production rate at many times the price.
It's thrilling to see the progress, especially achieving 550,000 lbs of thrust
Every rocket company is playing catch up to SpaceX.
BO progress? Lots of talk.. Still waiting.
Can't argue with BO's flight success rate of 0 for 0
hope for the best
Test away, as much as you want. I live just a few miles away from NASA test stand 4670 and love listening to them in the evenings, usually. I wish I could watch.
The BO BE-4 rocket engine may turn out to be successfull - but is it reliable (for astronaut crews) and is it economical ???
I'm glad to see any competition, especially if there are different designs being tested. Elon would welcome any progress toward improving the space program. We are on the same team when it gets right down to it.
Wow! 50 BE4 engines a year and Raptor v2 only 1 a day!!
If this was a post from 5 years ago, I would have been impressed. Here is an idiot test ! If you could have 1 million in share what company would you choose ? Spacex or Blue Origin ? In Elin we trust 🙏
Elon?
Well SpaceX is not publicly traded and If they had to reveal their actual numbers, they would nor be attractive.
I was very impressed by the two BE4 performance with Vulcan's Maiden flight. But mass producing reliable engines is a massive hill to clime. We may see 2 more BE4s delivered to ULA this year, but will be surprised to see a test flight of "New Glenn" any time soon.
I wish both BO and ULA the best. Yet both companies have to face the fully reusability of Starship maybe as soon as 2025 making them obsolete before achieving much.
Even IF New Glenn flies soon, BO are far from even partial reusability and therefore any hope of being relevant financially.
Shocked lol what a nonsense. rapidly reusable 😝
Blue Origin is in the same category as Starliner. Junk.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Is that a crack on the exhaust nozzle @2:15
Eventually, she'll be right 👍
It would be cool if they actually launched some rockets. Test stands are great, but you know you have to take off the training wheels at some point.
They only had 2 engines fly . Let's see some more fly . There lucky that Vulcan didn't blow up or crash .
Why?? The thing is these guys do it right! Test, test and test some more!! Don't fly before you are ready!!
Raptors are anything but flawless!!
The vulcan's 1st flight is a 100% success. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd Starship flights ended in failure.
@@professorg8383 Dude it was a TEST Flight....and IFT3 achieved everything a "normal" Rocket can do. Also you can't compare Vulcan with a Starship...its way more powerfull.
@@professorg8383 Ok, so BO has already brought two BE-4 Engines to actually fly into the sky, Space X did that with 78 raptor engines in two flight tests (if we exclude the debris broken engines from ift 1). If the test results about Raptor 3 spread by Elon Musk hold some truth, each one of them will produce as much power as each BE-4 engine in the forseeable future. Let's wait until BO has flown its New Glenn using 7 BE-4 engines, before we praise their superior safety record.
@@Ganjalf420- No, it was not a "test flight". The Vulcan VC2S rocket launched the first certification mission from Space Launch Complex-41 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida. Cert-1 delivered the Astrobotic Peregrine commercial lunar lander into a highly elliptical orbit more than 220,000 miles (360,000 km) above Earth to intercept the Moon and carry a Celestis Memorial Spaceflight Payload into deep space.
The Vulcan did everything it was supposed to. However, the Peregrine payload had a propulsion anomaly preventing it from completing its mission and landing on the Moon. But the Vulcan did its part flawlessly
But you are correct that the Vulcan platform is configurable to be way more powerful than Starship!!
As for "IFT3 achieving everything a "normal" Rocket can do" , That's complete nonsense!!! Starship barely reached LEO altitude!! And it didn't work!
The Raptor powered Starship is largely based on a modernized version of the 50 year old Russian N1 rocket and its RD-270 engines. .However, each of the four attempts to launch an N1 failed in flight, with the second attempt resulting in the vehicle crashing back onto its launch pad shortly after liftoff. Adverse characteristics of the large cluster of thirty engines and its complex fuel and oxidizer feeder systems were not revealed earlier in development because static test firings had not been conducted.
SpaceX completed many static fire tests on a vehicle using Raptor 2s, including a 31 engine test (intended to be 33) on 9 February 2023,[61] and a 33 engine test on 25 August 2023 During testing, more than 50 chambers melted, and more than 20 engines exploded. Raptor-3 is nothing more than a set of desired performance targets!! Raptor-2 has a long way to go, despite Musk quotes. (note: He lies a lot!)
A big problem with using so many smaller engines is that each has a couple hundred potential failure points. Multiply that by 33 and your odds of complete success goes way down. The fluid dynamics of firing 33 engines become ridiculously complex and virtually unpredictable. This is just common sense!! One catastrophic failure can easily cascade into vehicle loss. You can design countermeasure to protect against that to a degree, but all that adds weight. The Starship booster has required modifications that have all added weight. Virtually all have addressed structural deficiencies. As a result, they can't hit the original design fift capabilities. Musk doesn't talk about it this way but any decent engineer can see it! In the end, it's very much about thrust to weight ratios. This is why Musk is already talking about a version 2 and 3. Version 1 does not meet its designed spec!
But hey, keep believing in your hero!
Fly or stfu. How many launches has SpaceX been successful with so far? Yeah. Minmi-me Zero Flights; Musk 338 launches, 301 landings, 272 reflights. Fantasy Amazon against reality SpaceX. No contest.
Preach brother, preach!
Crappy click bait video, gave it a free thumbs down and got all mates to thumbs down it too. Also reported it to RUclips. Why is RUclips filled with such garbage these days, time to move on and find another source
I'm with you. Hitting the report button now. Hopefully RUclips will stop these click bait titles.
BO is yet to reach orbit and is yet to land their reusable rocket...Let's see how that goes.
Bezos....Meh.
BO is long on promises and government money….
raptor 4
Its all data baby!
Ka booom....
Just looking at all the exposed plumbing on the BE4 tells me they are not close to Space X
Out dated Spaghetti Monster rocket engine. Also no sign of tubes or passages in the bell to use that heat to boots things.
I'm sure Jeff already knows he is outclassed by
Raptor 2 and why, and that Raptor 3 is this year, and Raptor 4 on the drawing board.
Meanwhile Elon and Tribe likely to do launch 4 in weeks, And trying to correct the re entry profile good enough to hit the water in one piece.
Critical part will be getting sub orbital, and not locked bass ackwards this time...
That retro burn last time turned out to be problematic.
Might have been better to put the nose down with gas thrusters, and give it a nudge inclined down enough to get into upper air, then try to level it out and fly it as long as possible above the plasma hot zone. Thin air will heat less, but still reduce velocity over time. And if dropping too much maybe good to try flying Starship in a climb to eat velocity, maybe even roller coaster it a few times.
Another possibility might be side to side sweeps flying, snaking thru the air to eat up the forward energy.
We'll see what happens, but I suspect V-2 should have more lifting surface and actual control surfaces. And be capable by design of such manouvers.
Altitude is not the problem, its that insane velocity of being orbital, and that velocity should be able to get some bite in thin air, and keep it high, thin, and cool, long enough to do some good.
Its like extending orbital decay, but using wings.... Eventually you might lose enough velocity to do a Wiggly Flappers drop...
Or if you could design well, eventual ships could land on their sides on wheels or planing hull shape.
Tail landings look cool, but likely fuel users.
And you need infrastucture to take the burn...
Tail landings look like a 1950 Sci Fi!! Not very practical. How do you unload all the cargo??? They haven't figured that out yet!!
@@professorg8383
Yeah! I've actually done alot of writs on that on related channels in comments... at least half a dozen, explaining problems.and better solutions than a silly elevator...
I doubt real estate on Moon or Mars is so expensive we need sky scrapers to get the most out of it... Actually the best place is carving in sub surface.
I think they are trying to make a one size fits all and both feet shoe... 🤣
I wont last, sooner or later the nerds will face plant into some wall....
their latest adaptation is sending a big crane first before doing structures.
And on the ships using the elevator...
Hope that never fails....
I've described various systems that make more sense, but they are stubborn Nerds... They only use my stuff grudgingly, and never credit for it.
But that makes it more fun to plant concepts, and come up with good enough stuff they have no choice but to adopt it...
Have lost track of how many times I have counted coup on them with something soon used after my writ.
And I have alot of fun taking a pin to their hubris balloon... 🤣
They'll figure it out the hard way, and call it iteration.
@@garylester3976 You just can't have a reasonable conversation wiyj fanatics!!
They aren't really nerds they way I define nerds. Cult members is a more fitting term. Back in my day nerds were the smart ones! These guys are anything but the smart ones!! They just except what their cult leader says and never question it.
@@professorg8383
I think its different than that; that most of the time its the workers managing the boss...
And him occaisionally adding to the stew, and cherry picking things he likes.
I think the cult is more likely the online types, who click on everything Elon.
I'm really only interested in Space stuff. And SpaceX happens to be in the lead. But I know they are capable of losing that status if not flexible enough.
There are signs of dawning flexibilty, They now thinking of several
Starship models, Many of which have problems. And there are better solutions for some of their jobs.
I can be patient, and plant concepts ahead of the curve when I can. With most people takes around 6 months to adopt a new concept as their own.
But I have seen Elon do it in weeks or a couple three months. He is way less resistant to conceptual logic. Which also makes it fun for me as the gratification is more rapid.
He is an Aspie, if you can show him clean logic, he adopts.
And after that he is bullet proof with it.
All his workers are not uniform, some are also rapid response thinkers...
And not the usual Yammerheads...
I'm sure Elon tries to get the best he can... But the Rocket Engineering gene pool is likely small.
And maybe becoming inbreds by now... Lunar Dueling Banjos? 🤣
just like WAi (with aut intelligence)
You have the whiniest most entitled comments section in history 😂
BO is a scam.
Here's the worrisome thing: SpaceX and Blue Origin are in competition for the lunar lander. Strictly as an informed layman, I'm not sure Starship will work as a lander. It's too tall and I'm not convinced it can land on a non-prepared surface. Blue Origin's concept is pretty conservative; I'm not even sure they'll be the prime contractor on it. But if it's developed at the same rate as other BO projects, we might end up hitching rides on Chinese rockets. Like I said, Musk promises he can colonize Mars by next week. He'll fail repeatedly but eventually he'll get there. Bezos is more like a classic contractor; every years he comes back and says he'll deliver hardware for just a little more money. It's like HOTOL out of England, the concept of the future and always will be.
Too tall for all that moon gravity? You know starship will have landing legs similar to falcon. Just sit back and continue to be amazed. It's fun to watch
@@EASYRYDERDANGER Which lands on level, prepared surfaces. Based on Apollo, I don't think the Moon has any level sites.
Im all for competition and think SpaceX needs it. But Elon can design an entire rocket and launch it 20 times before any competitor can put its pants on in the morning. The problem is with corporate culture, and not with how much tax payer money you can throw at a project.
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Blue Origin BE-4 = lol SpaceX= Muscle
Blue Origin is in another league compared to spacex. You'll see.
😂 yeah BO is a minor league VS the Pros.
Elon will be on the moon before BO gets this engine up and operational
the schock schocker ...schock the schokenized....
i can't hear and read this crap anymore
Long on words short on info. Bottom line still no success
Click bete.
Click bait title.
Yes, getting tired of the use of the word SHOCKED
I love the vitriol from all Musk fanboys in the comments :D :D
Is there any other kind of "Fanboy?" in Elon we trust!
@@Gweilo.Biden.1 Plenty more. Yet I hardly know anyone with less trustworthy predictions.
It's a cult. Might as well be religious fanatics!!! Virtually none of them are engineers or scientists. That should tell you something!!
Not a cult. Fact. Enough talk from Bezos. Fly it.
@@larryhojo Of course it's a cult!! They ring all the bells! These are very low tech brained people, (simpletons). They believe in the man, not the technology which they clearly don't understand!