Lowers service on a Fox fork | Syd Fixes Bikes
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
- In this video you'll learn to do a lower service on a Fox fork.
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Fox bike service where you can put in your fork number:
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What you'll need:
Dust wiper kit: bit.ly/3dlcsG0
Lower leg removal tools (can use your sockets): bit.ly/34HunTm
Fork seal install tool (can use a piece of PVC): bit.ly/34IH1kL
Fox 20wt Gold fluid: bit.ly/2SFaLK3
Fox 5wt suspension fluid: bit.ly/2SFaLK3
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Syringe: bit.ly/36PbKPS
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00:00 Intro
00:18 What you'll need
01:03 Why should you do this?
01:26 Terminology
01:58 Removing the lowers
08:44 Removing the o-rings and dust wipers
09:53 Installing the o-rings and dust wipers
12:46 Reinstalling the lowers
13:50 Injecting bath oil fluid
14:54 Installing lock nuts and crush washers
16:04 Injecting air chamber oil
17:07 How to do a lower service in one minute
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Love the format guys, and love the way Syd stresses about all the things I would, when I haven't got a clue what I'm doing.
I'm also a fan of the casual format. Teaching Syd while she does it herself is a great way to go. I already know most of this DIY stuff, but it's fun to watch you two interact as you teach her. Also, I didn't even know that there was oil in the positive air side, none of the other videos cover this. You two taught me something today, going to go change my positive air chamber oil now!
Some tips....
1. Clean the fork and dust seals before disassembly so you aren’t introducing dirt into the lowers when they are removed. No reason to add contaminants.
2. Have the fork rotated up past 90 when you hammer the shafts in. That way you can control when the oil pours out. Just like you did when you added oil.
3. A seal installer tool is much more important than the shaft hammer tools since you can use the socket to hammer on.
4. It is necessary to pre oil the foam rings, not optional. Just because fox doesn’t build them correctly, doesn’t mean you should.
I really like the 1 minute overview you added to the end of the video. So helpful for reference.
this format, with us learning along with Syd, really is brilliant. you just dont see tutorials like this, but it really humanizes the process and makes it more approachable. also it just really fun. i'll be back to this video again when its time to service one of my forks!
I'm so glad I stumbled on this channel. I'm a 34 year old guy and these are some of the best, most approachable DIY videos I've seen.
Truly amazing!!!! I like that Mackey lets Syd get ahead of things a little bit to make the kind of minor mistakes, as an example for us, that we want to avoid. But he doesn’t let things get too out of hand. Seeing Syd do this stuff makes me think that I might be able to do the same.
This whole series has been so invaluable for people like me who are trying to get more into working on their bikes. Especially after I had a nightmare experience in a new town and ended up spending about 1,200 on a full rebuild last year. Swore to fix everything myself after that.
Great video! You guys are killing it!
To remove wiper seals from lowers use a cylindrical solid piece of plastic an 1” in diameter and about a foot long. You can score off amazon for nothing. Much safer to remove wipers without scratching anything.
Also make sure to soak foam ring in the correct bath oil. Grip 2 uses 20gold on air spring, but ptfe 5wt on the damper side.
Finally, don’t ever use the aluminum nuts to punch loose the damper and air spring shafts. The threads can be easily damaged doing this making it very hard, if not impossible, to thread them back on.
Just some things I noticed
What to use instead of the aluminum nuts? (DIY-style)
If you can find another nut with the same thread pitch, then use that. Otherwise get the steel punches from Fox.
This is how all bike maintenance videos should be formatted. Thank you!
One thing we forgot to mention: when you're adding pressure back into the fork, every 20 psi or so, leave the shock pump attached and slowly compress the fork a couple times to allow the positive and negative air chambers to equalize. It will also slightly decrease the pressure in the upper chamber (what the pump is reading), so do the same when you get to your desired pressure and then double check that the pressure is what you want it to be.
timing from start to finish?
Another note:
1cm³ = 1mL
DO NOT do that, you could fuck your pump manometer doing that
@@peaceinpowder 18:56 😅
Oooh! We need a rear shock service tutorial!
Just did it today after watching this video and the GMBN tech channel one. Wasn't exactly easy, but done now and the fork is amazing. Silky smooth. Should have done it a long time ago.
A++ content so far. Favorite new channel of the fall! Love your other content - bringing that same energy, chemistry, knowledge and fun to the mechanic side is pure gold. I've been a home mechanic for a while now and am always looking for information to help me get better. So far you're blowing other, very good videos, out of the water. Love the fun, clear steps, practical approaches and links to every single thing (how can so many other quality videos give a list, but not links?!?). Thanks and keep it up (like forever - teach us ALL the things - don't ever stop)!
Thanks so much for the kind words and encouragement!
Tip for installing seals without a seal driver. Put them in the freezer for an hour and they install easier, also use slick honey or slickolium on the inside of the fork.
My version of this is heat the lower slightly with a heat gun
Informative and entertaining! Probably one of the more fun "how to" vids I have watched. Nice work!
This is a brilliant tutorial. I lost using my mtb for 12 weeks when the lockdown started cos my forks were away being serviced. Will be up for trying it myself after seeing your work.
I’ve seen these how to’s before but it still looked scary. Now I feel like I could do it myself easily!!
That was extremely well filmed, edited, scripted and performed... Thank you so much for a perfect tutorial to something that can seem very intimidating as a home mechanic !!
I love your content, keep it up
I love that you guys do this the same way I do. PVC for the win!! Of course, I don't have those fancy lower seperator doo hickeys but..s'all good.
That was really fantastic guys. As a few people have noted, the theme of "Newbie learns to do advanced maintenance" makes everything much more approachable. I'm, generally, a really solid mechanic, but have a fork (not Fox, but as Mackay notes, they all work generally the same) that is serious need of a service.
Unfortunately, the rebuild kits for Suntour forks are really hard to get in Australia, grrrrrrr (will just have to buy the correct oil, and re-use the seals).
Thanks again guys.
We usually just do the oil and don't worry about the seals, so you should be fine. Might be worth pulling the foam o-rings out though and trying to clean then a bit (probably with just water and dish soap) because if they're super dirty they're just holding dirt against your stanchions and don't hold the oil as well.
@@sydfixesbikes Again, thanks for the advice guys.
Best fork service video out there! Really gives newbies like me who wants to do their own fork maintenance the confidence to do it. Very comprehensive tutorial! Subscribed!
Excellent! I didn't think I'd ever have the nerve to tackle that job, but now think I could do it. Thanks!
OK, now this I needed.
I've always been terrified of touching my suspension. It's the only regular-ish maintenance thing I still go to the bike shop for every single time.
I'll try to do it myself next time 👍🏼👍🏼😎
Fork lower service and basic air can service on shocks is super easy (provided you have the correct tools). Assuming you have a work stand and basic tools, the extra tools needed for a fork service will pay for themselves on the first lower service you do.
@@setransou agreed. I've been riding for 5 years and wrenching on my bike for about 4, but I live in an apartment and while it's not tiny, I can't justify the space for a work stand... Maybe I'll look into a wall mounted alternative or something, but yeah. I'll look into investing into the few things I'm missing and get all the stuff necessary to do this. Thanks!
@@Leo_Inclan I hang my bikes in the ceiling with a "bike lift" meant for storage to work on them, not as sturdy as a proper work stand but it takes no room when not in use and gets the job done..
Not gonna say much but this was extremly helpful ,said by someone who never tried to or serviced his fork on his own and guess what I succesfully made it thanks
Enjoying these bike maintenance vids. Learning something too. Thanks
“Not really broken until it’s clean and broken” should be a t-shirt
"Not really dead until it's warm and dead"
That's a Halloween t-shirt idea
I never knew this channel existed. But now suddenly it is the greatest channel in the world. Lol.
Great video. But first step must be cleaning entire fork before disassembly.
Just yesterday I changed the rear shock on my bike.
First step?
Wash the whole bike.
Always do it whatever work is at hand
It makes it easier not to get dirt where it must not go.
@@karlsantos aw c'mon! Dirt goes everywhere!
Just beautiful. Love that you have fear on trying something new but do it anyway to surpass those fears. I'm in the same boat but thank you for the video. Keep up the good work
Best fork service tuition video on RUclips by far🙌🙌
Awesome video, love it. For me as a beginning home mountain bike mechanic, you guys make learning how to work on my bike less frightening!
EXCELLENT instruction AND the two of you make it not only easy but lots of FUN!! Fun to watch also!! Thank you both you two together are a riot! AND you did an excellent job of presenting how easy a seriously difficult job (To the unknowing), can be easily done by an average cyclist. Just might to suggest Syd wear some safety glasses in case of flying tools that slip or oil gushing out sometime?
Ah, good idea.
Really love your videos! We followed your steps last night and was able to service my son's fork last night and it's much better! Thanks for providing such helpful content!
Really enjoying this series you're making bike maintenance really easy to follow.
Please do one on indexing gears this is an area I don't understand and would love to learn!!
That's next week's video!
Ironically I was servicing a Fox 34, drinking some coffee when your video popped up.
*Very cool that husband and wife can enjoy their bike lifestyle together without forcing it.*
cool video!
I have to say though on that fork with a service that long overdue, I would have cleaned the entire thing inside out and also removed the air spring, cleaned and relubed that. Who knows how much dirt was already in there everywhere.
Other than that, you addressed exactly the points that every one doing this for the first time is afraid of!
Love to watch your vids, nice and clear and easy to do it your self .. THANKSSSS, and have a cup of tea ...
So funny cos I started doing seal sounds the second you brought them out too! I'm always doing it, cant resist 😂🤣 another great video guys
I was planning on doing this service to my fork today! Fingers crossed I don't ruin anything 🤞🏻Loving these videos!
I love the intro🔥it’s so cool and simple. Have a good day!🤙👍
You guys are fun to watch with your reparte and antics. Making it fun is 90% of the challenge!
You guys are great. Syd, your really remind me of my significant other, full of questions and saying doohickey. And as a beginning a new mechanic myself I'm learning something new
That thumbnail perfectly summarizes why this channel is awesome! :D
Thanks for a great video. Its very helpfull for us first timers to see some one doing this for the first time. Compared to the pros with no struggle.
As you found, a screwdriver is kind of a chaotic way to remove the dust wipers. It's easier if you use an open-ended wrench--they have one prong that points up and one that points down when you hold them sideways. Insert the upwards prong under the edge of the wiper and push down on the handle. I think the best size is something like 17mm but I just grab a handful of wrenches and test them until I find the one that fits perfectly.
Good tip. We saw that on the Fox website too, but not until after we'd used a screwdriver 😁
Damn, I feel like we're really stepping it up from bending a rotor .. been wanting to do this for a minute tho, guess it's time. (Syd's got nothing on my stalling tactics)
The internet and RUclips content that I never knew I needed but would now die without. Lol.
This is gonna be very helpful this winter when I need to do this on my own fork. Awesome job guys.
You guys are great. Thank you so much, I have an old Float100r on a KLEIN Palomino V and I want to grind the rim brake mounts off and paint the bottoms and the crown to match the "legendary" color shift blue paint (it's a full suspension cruiser essentially with gold and yellow accents). Going to be tricky, I know, but disassembly seems to be the best course of action per heat and all, I already cooked a set of skeletal brakes, per heat from the Dremel, and don't want to make that mistake on these forks. Thanks again and keep up the tutorials, you're the awesome Syd.
Great series of videos. Especially the summaries at the end. THANK YOU 🙏
Great video. These instructions will be a great help when it is time to service my front fork
Small tip: on open ended spanner is easier to use than a screwdriver to get old dust seals out
I just sent my daughter's fork and shock off to Fox. No that I've seen this the next time I will give this a shot!
Thanks for representing women in bike mechanics! Everytime I pick up parts to work on my bikes from the local classifieds the guys always go "oh I didn't know you were a woman!" Girls work on bikes too!!! So empowering.
I’d love to see a video on maintaining the front and rear hubs. How to tell/what to do when they are loose, proper tightness etc.
This whole video is comedy gold!😂😂😂
great video, very informative and easy to understand. Will definitely be tackling this service soon. Hope you also do a full fork service video in the future. thank for the great content!
Loved the video, but anytime you are dealing with forks or rear shocks you need to make sure you deep clean the item your working on and also have a highly clean service area and organize all your tools and parts 👌
Another entertaining video Syd. I will definitely use it as i so this to the 3 forks in the family that need this service
Nice video. Fork service scares me too.
One tip: don't use a regular screw driver to pull the o-rings. When you put a leverage like that there is a good chance you will damage the paint.
And then this looks ugly because the paint comes off in sort of flakes (not just the area where you applied the pressure). Cover the screw driver with some hard cloth.
Edit: I also clean the fork thoroughly before opening it - some left over dirt might fall into the lowers.
Also putting the rubber seals in the freezer before installing them. Shrinks them a bit.
This is a brilliant tip!
Great information, and great to see a girl working through the process.
Fork service and steering tube cutting are the most scaring tasks for me! With this video I'm a little more confident on the first one...
Steer tube cutting is quite straight forward as long as you remember to put everything on before you measure (bearings, spacers, stem, additional spacer or two). Macky might have forgotten to include the stem one time... That was really bad!
Great vid! Thanks for talking through it and not just play background music.
you're better than 99% of male apprentice bike mechs i've met... good bloody job
Great Video....just keeping simple for those that are not great bike mechanic..thank you
Thanks guys this video is perfect!!
Okay I love these videos! I feel like this is how I would do the job.
I really love this new channel!!! These videos are very helpful, keep it up!
Really good video guys!
That is one cute ride.
Great video, super clear on both what and why; love the format!
Lovin this channel more and more with each video!
New subscriber, unbelievable how you two get along so well!
These videos are giving me ideas for Christmas presents...tools and lubes!
Definitely! We're planning a "good tools to get started" video and a holiday gift guide!
Thanks, Syd. You make learning FUN!
For the lower leg service you don't need to remove the air. To remove the seals you can use the closed end of a wrench. And when you're installing the new ones you can put some grease on the outside of the seals and then they'll slide in much easier.
Good tips!
Great vids! Educational, informative, and fun! I'm enjoying them even though I don't need to do anything to my bike... yet.
Macky Foxes should be the channel names😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I do my lowers and aircan about every 2 months. Definitely worth keeping on top of it.
So, 17 years is too much?
Good job Syd.
I'm a professional aero engineer: it's nice to have someone teach me what to do, as I'm often less than competent with actually doing real work.
I'm learning too. You have a great teacher! Thank You.
Thank you guys so much for the tutorial. Will you make a video on a complete fox fork rebuild in the future?
hey! thanks for your video! it was fun to watch and easy to follow. my partner did this as a joint project (first for us both) and i now have an almost new fork! yay :D
Awesome!!!
Thanks for that guys feel confident doing this myself know 👍
This is a great channel. I've learned a ton of info.
The Videos are great! You guys are funny and work well together!
Did you guys cover rear shock service? Some videos make it seem quick and simple, but the Fox guide looks like ancient Greek, haha. Great videos, Syd and Macky!
Planning to do a can service in the next couple weeks, so stay tuned!
This is where the term "write the check" comes into play. Great video though, especially for those who have the patience to this job.
Awesome video! Subscribed 👍👍
Welcome!
Thanks guys, thoroughly enjoying your walkthrough methods. I can do this! 👍
You can do it!
good job
What a great video. Thanks! Great way to start my day!
Well done! Very authentic... just like me trying this sort of maintenance, but I don't have a Macky so it takes me 3x as long! And I do screw things up sometimes :(
If you unscrew parts, then it's even advisable to screw them up before finishing with the work ha ha ha
I love this channel. Just subscribed
Syd: Bike workshop Super 👌Repair tools are well arrangement👍 Nice video ✌️ Kochin FAT BIKE and MTB buddy 🤘
Great channel idea you two.
Great video, easy to understand and follow. Just...please use safety glasses!
Looking forward to more videos,