00:00 Madeline Soto Case Background 02:31 Jenn Soto Police Interview 05:23 Will Jenn Soto Be Charged? 25:47 Did Anyone Hear or See Anything? 38:01 Where was Stephan Sterns? #CourtTV What do YOU think? Catch up on the #MadelineSoto case: www.courttv.com/tag/stephan-sterns/?
He’s a narcissistic, vile creature. He had Jenn completely broken by coercive control! BOTH Jenn & Maddie were heavily drugged, particularly at night! Jenn had no idea what was going on. She was either working or waiting for her “sleep medications” to make her comatose. No wonder, mother & daughter suffer from crippling anxiety. He drove her car over there to frame her as the police were closing in…
She should be charged for child neglect at least. Any decent mother would NOT send her own daughter to the bedroom where her on and off boyfriend is sleeping. She is a disgusting irresponsible and careless mother😡🤬😡
I completely agree with you 💯 What a poor, sad and disgusting excuse of a mother!!! Also, I don’t hear any type of fear, worry or emotion in her voice. I mean at this point her daughter is missing and she’s speaking so nonchalantly about it?!? Something isn’t right about her and this situation. The math ain’t mathing here.
I guess she won’t be charged but her guilt is probably eating her alive. I’m a single mother I’ve had 2 relationships in the last 14 yrs and I would never NEVER allow this what so ever. I am always asking my kids how do you feel about this person or thee other. My last relationship was 7 yrs ago and my kids safety come first. Jen Soto must have some mental issues idk cuz what mother would allow this…. This is very sad. Breaks my heart. I have a 14 ye old daughter and I protect her with all I got
Stop talking about how horrible of a parent you’ve been to your own children. There’s absolutely not any evidence whatsoever, according to the police from the beginning, that Jenn Soto was aware or an accomplice to anything that happened with Madeline.
I am with you too. I am guessing the “I am really that stupid” is a defence and is not a crime! 😮 I really don’t understand though why she can’t be charged with something around the I sent them to bed together. That’s just wrong.
Grizzly True Crime Member here.🐻 Great job Gisela! You’re so professional yet compassionate and protective of every victim you cover! The same Gisela since I first found you during Gabby Petito case. ❤️🐻
Grizzly watcher here. This is how I found your channel too. Great coverage of such tragedies. Hoping to continue learning I want to enter a career in victim advocacy. Justice for Maddie. She was let down and suffered so much. Poor baby. 😭💔
That’s a beautiful career, to help other’s find their voice, heal, flourish and rise above their trauma. Just remember to “take care of yourself” by having a professional that’ll listen to you. I worked with children in foster care for over 20 years and many times I’d go home to my 3 daughters and cry while cooking because the experiences that day were just too much to bear. As they got older I’d share some things w/ my girls b/c I wanted them to know why their mom was “sad” that day. Aside from that I was in therapy to help me deal with the child abuse, neglect and violence I’d witness. I can only hope I positively impacted the babies and youth. The reward is greater than the pain I experienced.
GRIZZLY LOVE!🐻 thank you for not letting up on this case. Please let her Mother be held accountable. She failed her daughter and should be in jail too. For life.
Vinnie please don’t let this story die. Thank you for calling out Jennifer Sotos. She knew. She allowed her daughter to be molested. She couldn’t be bothered to protect her. She needs to be in jail. Her daughter lived a tortured life and Jennifer Soto let it happen. Justice for Madeline. 🙏
Jen said she didn't see her daughter in the morning, yet she corrected Stephen about what Madeline was wearing that morning in the conversation with police.
Wow never thought of that. Another thing is jenn never went upstairs to see if maybe Madelyn returned and was upstairs. She told police when she went home after her mother's she never went back upstairs.
I’ve followed Gisela from Grizzly True Crime for a couple of years. I appreciate her passion, investigative prowess and informative discussions on the many cases she has covered. I always watch for the next new case or missing person, etc, that she alerts us to. I’m proud to be a Grizzly and truly appreciate her!
Thankyou Vinnie for treating our Gisela wonderfully and trusting her insight. You're a champion along with all your Companions at Court TV..along with all your other guests with trying to get Full Justice for Maddie..Thankyou 🐻
What evidence is there of Jenn being involved with the SA & murder that a prosecutor would take it to trial? Her lying at first for Stephen is easily explained, there’s no way near enough No photos, videos, texts, taped conversations, no Stephen saying she was involved.
At this point I doubt she could be a good witness for prosecution , maybe for the defence . She is despised by people . Who knows , maybe his defence will be that she told him to do it ? Since there are no witnesses she might be the point of focus for defence to blame her .
@@kristyflattley9521 Exactly! She neglected Maddie. Maddie told her mother one time what that evil demon was doing to her and she did not believe her! She allowed Maddie to be SA'd by that evil monster. She is culpable!!! and needs to be charged. I doubt any LE Officials are going to openly show their hand to the public. They may have made the statement that no one else will be charged in this case but hopefully there will come a day that she is charged.
What Gisela said about the photos of SS’s and Madeline’s underwear being found in JENN’S master bedroom is a bombshell! I haven’t heard this mentioned on any other channel. I’m still making my way through the new 900 page document drop, this is shocking. It really changes everything imo.
Loved that you had Gisela K from Grizzly True Crime on the show. She has done extensive research on this case and obtained the FOIA documents. Wonderful show.
Gisela such a class act with real facts. Grizzly True Crime is excellent and seems to have the best info and documents. You should do the whole segment with her. She knows the most about this case! Smartest woman on youtube for sure.
@@libertyna933 Agree! What a professional collaboration of 2 very compassionate victim focussed people. GrizzlyXVinnie = Victim awareness & safety education 👏
@@Red_Foxx101😂 Gray Hughes is the guy i think you're talking about. I was telling my husband tonight actually, that I think the reason Vinny had him on so much recently was to pick his brain, since he was coming out with his own "investigates" show soon after that. Gray is a smart dude with a wealth of knowledge, his channel COULD be huge! Unfortunately he's completely full of himself and treats everyone like actual garbage . And yells at everyone when he doesn't get the money he's begging for 🙃
I personally believe that she knew, but she also knew that if she shut it down, that he would leave and not come back. In my opinion she sacrificed Maddie to keep douche canoe around 😔
I can't think of a single reason why he would want to unless he was molesting her. I absolutely hated having to deal with my ex's daughters with no one else around just because I didn't want to be accused of something. To this day, I still worry that she may try and say I did something to her kids out of spite. And we split 10 yrs ago. That's just how hateful she is. TBH, I also worried that she was letting something happen to our daughter. Our daughter passed away at 22 months old when my ex wrecked while texting and driving. To this day, I worry that she let her nasty little bro or her ex abuse our child. Especially her little brother. Why? He was caught molesting family members previously. And his mom never did anything about it
Gisela does an amazing job when it comes to these cases. She's truly a pro with a heart ❤️ of gold. She makes sure to create a safe place for family and friends of victims to feel supported. ❤❤❤
I don't believe for a minute. That Jennifer Soto didn't suspect "inappropriate behavior" on SS's part, over a 5 year period. What 13 year needs a babysitter? I was babysitting when I was 12 years old. RIP Madeline💔⚖️
I think they are hoping to find physical proof on their phones, or hard drives while they prepare for Stephans trial. Jenn has layered up herself. JENN HERSELF WAS MOLESTED AS A CHILD!!! TELL ME AGAIN HOW SHE THOUGHT NOTHING OF IT. Then Jenn told Stephans Dad when Stephan was with the cops - QUOTE " I have been on new medication and we haven't had sex in months. It's been causing problems cause I have no sex drive..." She tells the cops they have a "Vanilla" sex life. All his ex's say he liked them to play asleep during sex. He told his recent GF between Jenn that he got a QUOTE "BONER" snuggling Maddy at night 🤢🤮. Jenn wrote in a notebook that the cops found when applying for a Disability check. She wrote everything about how Trauma affects her daily life. How it affects her memory. How she responds when she sees her perpetrator. SHE IS NOT CLUELESS.
So True. No normal-functioning 13-year old, like Maddie, needs to be monitored to do their “nighttime routine”. Of course, Stephan and Jenn will say til they are blue in the face that Maddie has Autism. severe ADHD, and would lose her head if it wasn’t attached to her neck, and that Maddie DID need to be monitored to do her “nighttime routine”. Again, when in doubt, blame the victim who is no longer here to “speak for themselves”. I don’t know WHY Stephan arrived at Jen’s house precisely when he did on Sunday evening, but it sure wasn’t to “make sure Maddie did her nighttime routine” (as Mom was working).
My 13 yr old son got separated at the beach while on vacation. The ocean. I was pretty hysterical and called 911 after 20 mins of searching. He was found safe thank God. Her calmness speaks volumes, medicated or not.
Her plea for her seemed very disingenuous. It's as if she was struggling to think of the right words to use and say. If you watch the pleas of innocent parents of missing children. Their words are clearly genuine, from the heart, and with no amount of thought behind them. Their words were fluid, flowing smoothly from their mouths, while having desperation in the tone and their demeanor. Some mothers were unable to even speak, but no innocent parents have the type of behavior and demeanor as Jen. And if you look up videos of guilty parents making a plea to the public for their children. They all have a very similar way of speaking, where you can see them thinking, and struggling to find the words that sound the best to others.
I take medicine for anxiety but I’m telling you, NO DOSE of anxiety medicine prescribed would be enough to keep me calm during the disappearance and murder of my daughter. Not buying the “medicine” excuse, even a LITTLE BIT.
3:23*****LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT...She got home at ten thirty, Maddie showed her her gifts, sang her choir song, watched sister act and went to bed by eleven? That makes PERFECT SENSE!*****
They didn’t watch all of Sister Act, they started to watch it. But still, it seems like MS didn’t get that many gifts if they only had thirty minutes to unbox them, sing a verse of “I Will Follow Him” and watch that part of the movie.
Great to see Gisela from Grizzly True Crime on here! She is amazing, insightful and truly compassionate to the victims and their families. A true class act!!!❤🐻 I’m sorry, but she fell asleep while her daughter’s missing?????
"I SENT THEM TO BED???????" What the hell? She should be in jail and facing the same charges as him, because she is just as guilty as he is, because she failed to protect her daughter. She knew exactly what was going on and allowed her daughter to be x abused by this jerk. Please!!!! Investigators PLEASE arrest her and bring harsh charges against her. SHE KNEW. SHE OFFERED HER DAUGHTER UP TO HIM. It makes my blood boil🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
The one croc, Maddie’s underwear, Stephan’s boxer shorts, all in Jen’s room. Then you have the tripod, and master cream upstairs and Jen didn’t know? I’m with Gisela something happened downstairs in Jen’s room.
Yeah, i would not be able to sleep. I would be hysterical and would NEVER let my 13 year old daughter in bed with a grown man, even if I was there. Epic fail Momma!
@@selahemilyp3517Exactly. She slept in that hotel. According to SS father they went to eat at the hotel. How can you sleep and eat while your child is missing?
Gisela K is intelligent, hard working, and truly cares about the case's she covers. Could not be more well deserved, congratulations! Rest in peace Madeline, tragic case.
I was a single mother and I didn't even date because of men like Sterns. I never let men around my 2 daughters much less let a man move into my home. And to let him sleep in the bed with Madeline!? Seriously?! She failed as a mother and a human!
It's a huge reason I won't date now too. I just could not risk it. Even if I met my #1 perfect soul mate, I'll never live with a partner again before my daughter is grown and out of the nest. Prob not even then.
@@LoziPop Your children come first. Most of the time even before yourself. Any good mother will die protecting her children. Not give her to a predator.
I was a divorced Mum with one daughter and dogs and cats after escaping an abusive marriage. No man came anywhere near my home. As a single woman one knows exactly what is going on in one's home when one is not at work, and hopefully also when one is at work, and especially at night. Most women wake up when a pin drops in the house at night. When my dogs wanted to go out at night, they wouldn't bark or nuzzle. They'd sit next to my bed and stare at me and that was enough to get me up to let them out. Jen Soto is seriously difficult to believe.
I grew up as the only child and my mother in 30 years has never brought a man home ,she never drank and always put me 1st now she is not well ,I refuse to put her in a home ,I will look after her as long as she has on this earth, tomorrow bit off the point but she failed as a mother that poor girl
Shout out to the Queen of True Crime, Gisela and my snarky Grizzly family. Love you too, Vinnie as well as your other guest. Justice for Madeline Soto. 💜💜💜
Absolutely! I’ve witnessed and have been a part of @grizzlytruecrime since its inception, and there’s no one more informative, thorough, intelligent, and protective than Gisela. She is truly a pleasure to listen to, and a real class act. You do not leave empty headed after watching and participating in her Live presentations. What a treat it is seeing Vinnie and her together. Great show with all of the guests on such a tragic case of extreme neglect and endangerment, severe abuse, and ultimately death of this precious child, Madeline. May the Lord now protect her as should have been done on earth. 🙏🏻😢
👏👏 I agree Grizzly True Crime is the BOMB🫡‼️. All class, all truth, appropriate snark! Vinnie and Court TV please consider having G on a lot more and GH a lot less🙃😘😘. (Edited for typos)❤
Bring on the Grizzlies ❤🐻!! Gisela bringing the facts, protecting the victims and making The Grizzlies proud!! Poor Madeline. There will be justice for this beautiful young lady.
Gisela K…I finally watched Vinny’s show featuring you, our girl and Bobby Chacon!! You wore that beautiful blue jacket and looked fabulous!! You were confident with your thoughts and opinions regarding the death of Maddie. I thought it was interesting on your take that Stefan strangled Maddie downstairs. I believe you are on the right track. We as Grizzlies are very proud of you and we are proud to be on your team!! 0:07
I love that you had Gisela on. I just love her. Having a united front with you tubers who are true crime has been wonderful to see. Keep up the great work
What shocks me is that Maddie was diagnosed with ADHD and Autism and was prescribed regular meds who was assessing her and why didn’t they pick up that she was being SA’d … for years ??? How many other kids are slipping through the cracks with these health professionals who are dishing out these meds ??
@@shireenramnarain4005 I see where LE have a court order for her paediatric and gastroenterologist’s notes she was seeing professional medical SPECIALISTS I am shocked that not one of them picked up any signs of SA bcos believe me there would have been some they just didn’t ask the right questions I’m so angry about this being a health professional myself .
What professional does that incompetent type of diagnosis, brings me back to the days of Ritilan being handed out like candy at schools to control large classrooms! Disgusting practices, many victims....
@@msherman2888yes! As a child that was prescribed Ritalin in the late 90s bc I liked to tap my pencil constantly in class or jump my leg up and down. I didn’t have ADHD it was just hard for me to sit still that long. But my mom listened to my teacher diagnosis me and then took me to the doctor who agreed I needed to be medicated daily so I could sit still in class. Smh
Who the Hell would send a 12-13 yr old daughter, to bed upstairs, with an on again off again boyfriend? Damn these people have no boundaries. This is horrible! These "Got to have a man", people need to focus on their children. Now look what has happened lady. The world is watching! 👀
An on again off again bf that she said she was withholding sex from. A man she knew was kinky & sexually frustrated😵💫🤦♀️ She KNEW he was SAing her daughter
AND JENN HERSELF WAS MOLESTED AS A CHILD!!! TELL ME AGAIN HOW SHE THOUGHT NOTHING OF IT. Then Jenn told Stephans Dad when Stephan was with the cops - QUOTE " I have been on new medication and we haven't had sex in months. It's been causing problems cause I have no sex drive..." She tells the cops they have a "Vanilla" sex life. All his ex's say he liked them to play asleep during sex. He told his recent GF between Jenn that he got a QUOTE "BONER" snuggling Maddy at night 🤢🤮. Jenn wrote in a notebook that the cops found when applying for a Disability check. She wrote everything about how Trauma affects her daily life. How it affects her memory. How she responds when she sees her perpetrator. SHE IS NOT CLUELESS.
Grizzly community member here!! Great professional input and coverage of this tragic event!! Keep up the great work Gisela!! Thanks Vinnie as well!! 👍🙂🤟💚🐈⬛NM
Love @Grizzly True Crime, Queen G is amazing!! 🐻❤️🐻❤️🐻❤️ So amazing to see 2 of the best collaborating on such an important case. Poor Maddie was failed by everyone that knew her, mom, grandparents, friends, teachers, school counsellor, each and every one of them if they had just said something could've made a difference. Sending a teenage girl to bed with your ex bf who is a full grown adult male is just wrong on every level. There is no excuse on earth that could now sway me to think she deserves a chance.....especially after finding out Jenn specifically said she didn't think that the SA happening to Maddie was evil!!!
CONGRATULATIONS to Gisela from a loyal Grizzly since the Gannon Stauch murder trial. My heart is completely shattered by what this child endured! Thank you for all the information you provide with integrity and focus on the victim of these atrocious crimes.
@@jessicawatson2653 absolutely not! My dad died when I was 13, but no I would not sleep in a bed with any man at that age. Disgusting as hell that this "mother" did this.
❤ Gisela K!! You were/are Awesome 🎉 I love that you're making a name for yourself! So informed, so professional, and such a kind heart ❤️ Proud to be a Grizzly and thanks Court TV for recognizing her talent.
My daughter went missing one time for days as she has schizophrenia. I was a train wreck. I couldnt eat, sleep or sit still. I thought i would have to unalive myself as the pain was so severe. I called her in as a missing person after only three hours of her going missing from my apartment
@@unapologeticallyauthentic That part was absolutely unbelievable! There must be a small pile of acorns between her years, because there is no excuse for what she didn’t do as a mother!
What did she do for a job? I have been following this case but I must have missed what her mother, I hate to even call her a mother the way she treated poor Madeleine. Yes her Mom needs to be in prison. RIP Madeleine 🕊️🙏🏻
She falls asleep and doesn’t go out herself to search for her missing child? I mean this woman is a terrible parent and she is covering for her sick so called boyfriend 🤮
So great to see Gisela K. on your show!! She is one of the most detailed, fair, engaging and compassionate you tube reporters/authors, among many other accolades. It was like 3am for her and she is always so happy to be a guest, would never complain!! The real deal!! Please have her back more often!!
This is so horrendous the mother didn't even provide her daughter her own bedroom but did rent out two bedrooms for money. Maddie was trealed less than a stray animal. The mother also said she SAW what Maddie wore that morning when she left for school ie black shorts. Jenn Soto should at least be charged with child endangerment. She knew the creep was abusing her.
@Gisela, I loved seeing you and Vinnie together discussing Maddie’s case. Thank you! Everyone had insight but you seemed to know more than everyone else today. With all the rabbit holes you go down, you may be growing your own pair of rabbit ears soon! 🐰
❤Hi Vinnie! Enjoy your show sooo much and watch you all the time! Thanks for having Gisela on your show! I'm a Grizzly and I love ❤️ being a part of that incredible community! She is such an amazing mentor to her true crime followers! Love you both ❤ lots!
Her daughter was missing but she was sound enough asleep that she didn’t even hear stephan taking her car in the middle of the night. What mother would be able to sleep within a few hours of their child being missing?!?!
@@nemmanogg6074 The lacks maternal instincts entirely. I do remember early on that the gave birth to Jenn at the age of 13. It is a intergenerational and cultural difference. Still the child must be protected and cared for much more than the family has shown . So to go on to answers that then she has also made mistakes in the timeline when put side by side with SS. This one you mention, she moved her time she" went to sleep" from about 11 or so till 8 or 9 when first questioned (giggling, laughing towards detective) to 3:00 am to 8 or so , At 3:15 SS went out in her car to where MS was in that row of trees. THEN PLAYS DUMB (when she wakes up) ON WHERE HE IS AND CALLS HIS PARRENTS if he's there. There are so many that even a blind person can see it . Just have to listen to the questioning . The law enforcement are really working and pushing for justice for Madeline.
00:00 Madeline Soto Case Background
02:31 Jenn Soto Police Interview
05:23 Will Jenn Soto Be Charged?
25:47 Did Anyone Hear or See Anything?
38:01 Where was Stephan Sterns?
#CourtTV What do YOU think?
Catch up on the #MadelineSoto case: www.courttv.com/tag/stephan-sterns/?
That is the big question! Will Jenn Soto Be Charged!!
You can definitely tell room 4 is SS bedroom without a doubt
Who could fall asleep when child is missing??
@@wishingyoupeaceExactly what I was thinking! She's so passive and cool about everything!
MAYBE JEAN SOTO KINDA SLOW SORRY TO SAY THAT
Deciding not to charge her is not justice for Maddie 😢 she served her daughter up to stephan on a silver platter
Exactly 😢She Is a Very Sick person doesn't act like a Mom at all she's sick💔💔🤢
She can still be charged and yes she should be and pimped her daughter to her bf
early days stlll
@@jackmanjack211 true 👍
He’s a narcissistic, vile creature. He had Jenn completely broken by coercive control! BOTH Jenn & Maddie were heavily drugged, particularly at night! Jenn had no idea what was going on. She was either working or waiting for her “sleep medications” to make her comatose. No wonder, mother & daughter suffer from crippling anxiety.
He drove her car over there to frame her as the police were closing in…
She should be charged for child neglect at least. Any decent mother would NOT send her own daughter to the bedroom where her on and off boyfriend is sleeping. She is a disgusting irresponsible and careless mother😡🤬😡
I completely agree with you 💯 What a poor, sad and disgusting excuse of a mother!!! Also, I don’t hear any type of fear, worry or emotion in her voice. I mean at this point her daughter is missing and she’s speaking so nonchalantly about it?!? Something isn’t right about her and this situation. The math ain’t mathing here.
yeah but thats not child neglect, they need to prove she knew about the abuse
I guess she won’t be charged but her guilt is probably eating her alive. I’m a single mother I’ve had 2 relationships in the last 14 yrs and I would never NEVER allow this what so ever. I am always asking my kids how do you feel about this person or thee other. My last relationship was 7 yrs ago and my kids safety come first. Jen Soto must have some mental issues idk cuz what mother would allow this…. This is very sad. Breaks my heart. I have a 14 ye old daughter and I protect her with all I got
I wouldn't even go as far to even call it a mother!
Stop talking about how horrible of a parent you’ve been to your own children. There’s absolutely not any evidence whatsoever, according to the police from the beginning, that Jenn Soto was aware or an accomplice to anything that happened with Madeline.
I'm tired of Jen. Sick and F-ing tired...
@@Jeannette0890 I know right?
Jenn...🤮ugggh
I am with you too. I am guessing the “I am really that stupid” is a defence and is not a crime! 😮
I really don’t understand though why she can’t be charged with something around the I sent them to bed together. That’s just wrong.
Mee too
Me too arrest her now Chile endangerment at least
Grizzly True Crime Member here.🐻 Great job Gisela! You’re so professional yet compassionate and protective of every victim you cover! The same Gisela since I first found you during Gabby Petito case.
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When she says “I sent them to bed” it turns my stomach. That poor girl. 💔
Grizzly watcher here. This is how I found your channel too. Great coverage of such tragedies. Hoping to continue learning I want to enter a career in victim advocacy.
Justice for Maddie. She was let down and suffered so much. Poor baby. 😭💔
She's so weird
@@DR.DisInfectAside from Jennifer Soto's bipolar diagnosis. I believe she covered Stephan's deviant behavior x5 years. RIP Maddie❤
That’s a beautiful career, to help other’s find their voice, heal, flourish and rise above their trauma. Just remember to “take care of yourself” by having a professional that’ll listen to you. I worked with children in foster care for over 20 years and many times I’d go home to my 3 daughters and cry while cooking because the experiences that day were just too much to bear. As they got older I’d share some things w/ my girls
b/c I wanted them to know why their mom was “sad” that day. Aside from that I was in therapy to help me deal with the child abuse, neglect and violence I’d witness. I can only hope I positively impacted the babies and youth.
The reward is greater than the pain I experienced.
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@@orianjuarez3074I’m up 35:04
GRIZZLY LOVE!🐻 thank you for not letting up on this case. Please let her Mother be held accountable. She failed her daughter and should be in jail too. For life.
Vinnie please don’t let this story die. Thank you for calling out Jennifer Sotos. She knew. She allowed her daughter to be molested. She couldn’t be bothered to protect her. She needs to be in jail. Her daughter lived a tortured life and Jennifer Soto let it happen. Justice for Madeline. 🙏
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I think she knew he would drug her and do that
Yes this thing knew what was going on she needs to be tried and convicted period
Maybe pregnant too
Jen said she didn't see her daughter in the morning, yet she corrected Stephen about what Madeline was wearing that morning in the conversation with police.
Wow never thought of that. Another thing is jenn never went upstairs to see if maybe Madelyn returned and was upstairs. She told police when she went home after her mother's she never went back upstairs.
I’ve followed Gisela from Grizzly True Crime for a couple of years. I appreciate her passion, investigative prowess and informative discussions on the many cases she has covered. I always watch for the next new case or missing person, etc, that she alerts us to. I’m proud to be a Grizzly and truly appreciate her!
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Thankyou Vinnie for treating our Gisela wonderfully and trusting her insight. You're a champion along with all your Companions at Court TV..along with all your other guests with trying to get Full Justice for Maddie..Thankyou 🐻
Yes! Thanks to all on this broadcast.
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How has she not been charged??? The prosecution does not need Jen as a witness. Their case is strong enough without her. So put her in prison!!!!
What evidence is there of Jenn being involved with the SA & murder that a prosecutor would take it to trial?
Her lying at first for Stephen is easily explained, there’s no way near enough
No photos, videos, texts, taped conversations, no Stephen saying she was involved.
At this point I doubt she could be a good witness for prosecution , maybe for the defence . She is despised by people . Who knows , maybe his defence will be that she told him to do it ? Since there are no witnesses she might be the point of focus for defence to blame her .
Exactly my comment on grizzly channel it’s beyond me not a reason can I find on this planet why this woman hasn’t been charged with anything
@@kristyflattley9521 Exactly! She neglected Maddie. Maddie told her mother one time what that evil demon was doing to her and she did not believe her! She allowed Maddie to be SA'd by that evil monster. She is culpable!!! and needs to be charged. I doubt any LE Officials are going to openly show their hand to the public. They may have made the statement that no one else will be charged in this case but hopefully there will come a day that she is charged.
@@beachydee854 omfg I knew she knew on some level about the abuse she is a terrible person poor poor child breaks my heart but thank you🙏♥️
Grizzly 🐻 here, we love you G!! I'm so proud to be a part of your community!
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What Gisela said about the photos of SS’s and Madeline’s underwear being found in JENN’S master bedroom is a bombshell! I haven’t heard this mentioned on any other channel. I’m still making my way through the new 900 page document drop, this is shocking. It really changes everything imo.
😮 ugh sickening
Loved that you had Gisela K from Grizzly True Crime on the show. She has done extensive research on this case and obtained the FOIA documents. Wonderful show.
Gisela such a class act with real facts. Grizzly True Crime is excellent and seems to have the best info and documents. You should do the whole segment with her. She knows the most about this case! Smartest woman on youtube for sure.
@@libertyna933 Agree!
What a professional collaboration of 2 very compassionate victim focussed people. GrizzlyXVinnie = Victim awareness & safety education 👏
@@missme1794 Agree!!🥰
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So much better having her on than “that guy” I can’t stand and don’t know why he always has him on. Grizzly is great 🐻
@@Red_Foxx101😂 Gray Hughes is the guy i think you're talking about. I was telling my husband tonight actually, that I think the reason Vinny had him on so much recently was to pick his brain, since he was coming out with his own "investigates" show soon after that.
Gray is a smart dude with a wealth of knowledge, his channel COULD be huge! Unfortunately he's completely full of himself and treats everyone like actual garbage . And yells at everyone when he doesn't get the money he's begging for 🙃
I can’t think of a single reason why you’d send your daughter and boyfriend to bed. You and him can go to bed, or he can leave…
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I personally believe that she knew, but she also knew that if she shut it down, that he would leave and not come back. In my opinion she sacrificed Maddie to keep douche canoe around 😔
@@CaseyMarie11-11 I think this too!! So awful /:
I can't think of a single reason why he would want to unless he was molesting her. I absolutely hated having to deal with my ex's daughters with no one else around just because I didn't want to be accused of something.
To this day, I still worry that she may try and say I did something to her kids out of spite. And we split 10 yrs ago. That's just how hateful she is.
TBH, I also worried that she was letting something happen to our daughter. Our daughter passed away at 22 months old when my ex wrecked while texting and driving. To this day, I worry that she let her nasty little bro or her ex abuse our child. Especially her little brother. Why? He was caught molesting family members previously. And his mom never did anything about it
Excited to see Gisela from Grizzly True Crimes on tonight! I love her site and her compassion and work toward justice for crime victims.
Love @Grizzly True Crime. Thanks for all your hard work.
Gisela… love to see you on Court TV. Your insight is great. This mother needs to be held accountable. She is sick
Gisela does an amazing job when it comes to these cases. She's truly a pro with a heart ❤️ of gold. She makes sure to create a safe place for family and friends of victims to feel supported. ❤❤❤
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Can't wait to see Gisela! She has worked so hard getting all the info on this case. She knows it inside and out. Justice for Maddie! Arrest Jen Soto!
I don't believe for a minute. That Jennifer Soto didn't suspect "inappropriate behavior" on SS's part, over a 5 year period. What 13 year needs a babysitter? I was babysitting when I was 12 years old. RIP Madeline💔⚖️
Exactly. If she was on her own she would still be alive today.
Exactly!! I was babysitting for 2 families when I was 12- 13 year old don’t need to be babysat 🤬
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I think they are hoping to find physical proof on their phones, or hard drives while they prepare for Stephans trial. Jenn has layered up herself. JENN HERSELF WAS MOLESTED AS A CHILD!!! TELL ME AGAIN HOW SHE THOUGHT NOTHING OF IT. Then Jenn told Stephans Dad when Stephan was with the cops - QUOTE " I have been on new medication and we haven't had sex in months. It's been causing problems cause I have no sex drive..."
She tells the cops they have a "Vanilla" sex life. All his ex's say he liked them to play asleep during sex. He told his recent GF between Jenn that he got a QUOTE "BONER" snuggling Maddy at night 🤢🤮.
Jenn wrote in a notebook that the cops found when applying for a Disability check. She wrote everything about how Trauma affects her daily life. How it affects her memory. How she responds when she sees her perpetrator. SHE IS NOT CLUELESS.
So True. No normal-functioning 13-year old, like Maddie, needs to be monitored to do their “nighttime routine”. Of course, Stephan and Jenn will say til they are blue in the face that Maddie has Autism. severe ADHD, and would lose her head if it wasn’t attached to her neck, and that Maddie DID need to be monitored to do her “nighttime routine”. Again, when in doubt, blame the victim who is no longer here to “speak for themselves”. I don’t know WHY Stephan arrived at Jen’s house precisely when he did on Sunday evening, but it sure wasn’t to “make sure Maddie did her nighttime routine” (as Mom was working).
As the mother of an 11 year old girl i just want to say,no way!! NO F'ing WAY!! NEVER would i send my child to sleep in the same bed as ANY man!!
She is out of her dang mind
You and everyone else in America....except for Jen Soto
Grizzly here🐻wow so proud off you Gisela 🥰❤️🙏🏻
Grizzly Gal here. Justice for Maddie. Love you too Vinnie!
My 13 yr old son got separated at the beach while on vacation. The ocean. I was pretty hysterical and called 911 after 20 mins of searching. He was found safe thank God. Her calmness speaks volumes, medicated or not.
It is really odd! Something is off here
Her plea for her seemed very disingenuous. It's as if she was struggling to think of the right words to use and say. If you watch the pleas of innocent parents of missing children. Their words are clearly genuine, from the heart, and with no amount of thought behind them. Their words were fluid, flowing smoothly from their mouths, while having desperation in the tone and their demeanor. Some mothers were unable to even speak, but no innocent parents have the type of behavior and demeanor as Jen. And if you look up videos of guilty parents making a plea to the public for their children. They all have a very similar way of speaking, where you can see them thinking, and struggling to find the words that sound the best to others.
I take medicine for anxiety but I’m telling you, NO DOSE of anxiety medicine prescribed would be enough to keep me calm during the disappearance and murder of my daughter. Not buying the “medicine” excuse, even a LITTLE BIT.
@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 Same. You'd have to fully knock me out for that kind of calm.
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3:23*****LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT...She got home at ten thirty, Maddie showed her her gifts, sang her choir song, watched sister act and went to bed by eleven? That makes PERFECT SENSE!*****
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OMG wait so true WTF
Room number 4 …. Wtf it wasn’t a home.
In 30 min they did so much 😂
They didn’t watch all of Sister Act, they started to watch it. But still, it seems like MS didn’t get that many gifts if they only had thirty minutes to unbox them, sing a verse of “I Will Follow Him” and watch that part of the movie.
Great to see Gisela from Grizzly True Crime on here! She is amazing, insightful and truly compassionate to the victims and their families. A true class act!!!❤🐻 I’m sorry, but she fell asleep while her daughter’s missing?????
Love seeing 2 of my most favorite people together, Vinnie and Gisela.
I am so proud of you Gisela!!! ❤
Her Mother in my opinion was also involved in the activity . Jenn is one of the worst excuses for a Mother I’ve ever seen .
Agreed
At the very least she should be charged with endangering the life of a child!!
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OMG, How do you casually discuss your boyfriend and your 12yr old daughter sleeping in the same room? That is shady and beyond strange.
She told them to go to bed! Huh?? What?? Disgusting!! 😡
"I SENT THEM TO BED???????" What the hell? She should be in jail and facing the same charges as him, because she is just as guilty as he is, because she failed to protect her daughter. She knew exactly what was going on and allowed her daughter to be x abused by this jerk. Please!!!! Investigators PLEASE arrest her and bring harsh charges against her. SHE KNEW. SHE OFFERED HER DAUGHTER UP TO HIM. It makes my blood boil🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
The one croc, Maddie’s underwear, Stephan’s boxer shorts, all in Jen’s room. Then you have the tripod, and master cream upstairs and Jen didn’t know? I’m with Gisela something happened downstairs in Jen’s room.
"I fell asleep". What mother can sleep when her child is missing?
Yeah, i would not be able to sleep. I would be hysterical and would NEVER let my 13 year old daughter in bed with a grown man, even if I was there. Epic fail Momma!
@@selahemilyp3517Exactly. She slept in that hotel. According to SS father they went to eat at the hotel. How can you sleep and eat while your child is missing?
That’s what I said / she’s so unemotional her family was the same ?
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My cat went missing and I didn't sleep for days. I can't imagine having a child missing. Jen is disgusting
Gisela K is intelligent, hard working, and truly cares about the case's she covers. Could not be more well deserved, congratulations!
Rest in peace Madeline, tragic case.
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@@Grizzly-Cat Thank you Grizzly Cat for all of your help! We Grizzlies are so thankful to you as well! 🐻🐈⬛❤️
Grizzly here. Love our G and totally respect Vinnie. You both do so much for the victims.
Thank you for having Gisela on your panel! She does so much research on every case she covers for us Grizzlies! She’s the best!🐻♥️🐻♥️
Been looking forward to this. I follow both you Vinnie and am also a proud to be part of the grizzly community too 🐻🐻🐻❤️❤️❤️
I was a single mother and I didn't even date because of men like Sterns. I never let men around my 2 daughters much less let a man move into my home. And to let him sleep in the bed with Madeline!? Seriously?! She failed as a mother and a human!
It's a huge reason I won't date now too. I just could not risk it. Even if I met my #1 perfect soul mate, I'll never live with a partner again before my daughter is grown and out of the nest. Prob not even then.
@@LoziPop Your children come first. Most of the time even before yourself. Any good mother will die protecting her children. Not give her to a predator.
I was a divorced Mum with one daughter and dogs and cats after escaping an abusive marriage. No man came anywhere near my home. As a single woman one knows exactly what is going on in one's home when one is not at work, and hopefully also when one is at work, and especially at night. Most women wake up when a pin drops in the house at night. When my dogs wanted to go out at night, they wouldn't bark or nuzzle. They'd sit next to my bed and stare at me and that was enough to get me up to let them out. Jen Soto is seriously difficult to believe.
My mom was the same way as a single mom.
I grew up as the only child and my mother in 30 years has never brought a man home ,she never drank and always put me 1st now she is not well ,I refuse to put her in a home ,I will look after her as long as she has on this earth, tomorrow bit off the point but she failed as a mother that poor girl
Grizzly gal here! We are so proud of you and all your hard work Gisella
Grizzly here. Justice for Madeline Soto !!!!!
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Grizzly Lover here, but I also love this channel! Great coverage from both! Justice for Madeline!
Loving you having Gisela on tonight.. she is a true queen of crime.. you guys should do it more 😊
Shout out to the Queen of True Crime, Gisela and my snarky Grizzly family. Love you too, Vinnie as well as your other guest. Justice for Madeline Soto. 💜💜💜
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Absolutely! I’ve witnessed and have been a part of @grizzlytruecrime since its inception, and there’s no one more informative, thorough, intelligent, and protective than Gisela. She is truly a pleasure to listen to, and a real class act. You do not leave empty headed after watching and participating in her Live presentations.
What a treat it is seeing Vinnie and her together. Great show with all of the guests on such a tragic case of extreme neglect and endangerment, severe abuse, and ultimately death of this precious child, Madeline. May the Lord now protect her as should have been done on earth. 🙏🏻😢
👏👏 I agree Grizzly True Crime is the BOMB🫡‼️. All class, all truth, appropriate snark! Vinnie and Court TV please consider having G on a lot more and GH a lot less🙃😘😘. (Edited for typos)❤
Hey fellow grizzlies! Great to see our queen and everyone here! Hey Vinnie!
Bring on the Grizzlies ❤🐻!! Gisela bringing the facts, protecting the victims and making The Grizzlies proud!! Poor Madeline. There will be justice for this beautiful young lady.
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Grizzly here❤ so proud of Gisela ❤
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Grizzly does great work just telling the facts and protecting the victims. ❤
Here with my other Grizzlies..😉
Big Thank You to Vinnie,for covering Maddie's case!!
Gisela K…I finally watched Vinny’s show featuring you, our girl and Bobby Chacon!! You wore that beautiful blue jacket and looked fabulous!! You were confident with your thoughts and opinions regarding the death of Maddie. I thought it was interesting on your take that Stefan strangled Maddie downstairs. I believe you are on the right track. We as Grizzlies are very proud of you and we are proud to be on your team!! 0:07
Love grizzly true crime. G is the best researcher.
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Grizzly fan here.
TY both !
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Maybe she will be.
She needs to be she makes me sick one hated per
The sistem let Jen Soto get away with morder.
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Her sister? Is that what you meant to write?
I love that you had Gisela on. I just love her. Having a united front with you tubers who are true crime has been wonderful to see. Keep up the great work
What shocks me is that Maddie was diagnosed with ADHD and Autism and was prescribed regular meds who was assessing her and why didn’t they pick up that she was being SA’d … for years ??? How many other kids are slipping through the cracks with these health professionals who are dishing out these meds ??
It seems these professionals dont care too
They just want the fees😢😮
@@shireenramnarain4005 I see where LE have a court order for her paediatric and gastroenterologist’s notes she was seeing professional medical SPECIALISTS I am shocked that not one of them picked up any signs of SA bcos believe me there would have been some they just didn’t ask the right questions I’m so angry about this being a health professional myself .
What professional does that incompetent type of diagnosis, brings me back to the days of Ritilan being handed out like candy at schools to control large classrooms! Disgusting practices, many victims....
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@@msherman2888yes! As a child that was prescribed Ritalin in the late 90s bc I liked to tap my pencil constantly in class or jump my leg up and down. I didn’t have ADHD it was just hard for me to sit still that long. But my mom listened to my teacher diagnosis me and then took me to the doctor who agreed I needed to be medicated daily so I could sit still in class. Smh
I’m a Grizzly True Crime proud member. Looking forward to this.
Who the Hell would send a 12-13 yr old daughter, to bed upstairs, with an on again off again boyfriend? Damn these people have no boundaries. This is horrible! These "Got to have a man", people need to focus on their children. Now look what has happened lady. The world is watching! 👀
An on again off again bf that she said she was withholding sex from. A man she knew was kinky & sexually frustrated😵💫🤦♀️ She KNEW he was SAing her daughter
AND JENN HERSELF WAS MOLESTED AS A CHILD!!! TELL ME AGAIN HOW SHE THOUGHT NOTHING OF IT. Then Jenn told Stephans Dad when Stephan was with the cops - QUOTE " I have been on new medication and we haven't had sex in months. It's been causing problems cause I have no sex drive..."
She tells the cops they have a "Vanilla" sex life. All his ex's say he liked them to play asleep during sex. He told his recent GF between Jenn that he got a QUOTE "BONER" snuggling Maddy at night 🤢🤮.
Jenn wrote in a notebook that the cops found when applying for a Disability check. She wrote everything about how Trauma affects her daily life. How it affects her memory. How she responds when she sees her perpetrator. SHE IS NOT CLUELESS.
She don’t care!!! No tears, why…. Cause she knows her daughter is dead!
Grizzly 🐻 here. Well done Gisela K and to all who are watching this case and sharing their insights. Justice for Maddy 💜. Her mother failed her!
G! You are soooo uh-Mazzzing! Love & respect your integrity & dedication 👏
Good job V!!! Gisela is amazing ! And such a resource!
Gisela K is Awesome!, Thank you for having her. Grizzly True Crime ❤
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Grizzly community member here!! Great professional input and coverage of this tragic event!! Keep up the great work Gisela!! Thanks Vinnie as well!! 👍🙂🤟💚🐈⬛NM
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Love @Grizzly True Crime, Queen G is amazing!! 🐻❤️🐻❤️🐻❤️
So amazing to see 2 of the best collaborating on such an important case.
Poor Maddie was failed by everyone that knew her, mom, grandparents, friends, teachers, school counsellor, each and every one of them if they had just said something could've made a difference.
Sending a teenage girl to bed with your ex bf who is a full grown adult male is just wrong on every level. There is no excuse on earth that could now sway me to think she deserves a chance.....especially after finding out Jenn specifically said she didn't think that the SA happening to Maddie was evil!!!
Grizzly watcher here! Love to see Gisela on Court TV.
CONGRATULATIONS to Gisela from a loyal Grizzly since the Gannon Stauch murder trial. My heart is completely shattered by what this child endured! Thank you for all the information you provide with integrity and focus on the victim of these atrocious crimes.
She stands there and rocks back n forth talking to whoever about her missing child like it’s an everyday conversation with someone she knew for years🙄
Who the hell lets a man who is not their daughter's father sleep in a bed with her!?!?! No! Hell NOOOOOO!!!!
not LET --- IT WAS HER DECISION, she MADE them sleep in the same bed
@@thecozyconstellation and she isn't being charged. It makes me absolutely sick.
Oh no even with her father. She was 13. She needed privacy.
I mean come on seriously would you want to sleep with your father in the same bed and your 13? NOT! She should have had her own room.
@@jessicawatson2653 absolutely not! My dad died when I was 13, but no I would not sleep in a bed with any man at that age. Disgusting as hell that this "mother" did this.
We should get a petition to the police to get her charged
Love grizzly true crime!! Thanks Vinny for your stupendous investigative reporting ✨
❤ Gisela K!! You were/are Awesome 🎉 I love that you're making a name for yourself! So informed, so professional, and such a kind heart ❤️ Proud to be a Grizzly and thanks Court TV for recognizing her talent.
My daughter went missing one time for days as she has schizophrenia. I was a train wreck. I couldnt eat, sleep or sit still. I thought i would have to unalive myself as the pain was so severe. I called her in as a missing person after only three hours of her going missing from my apartment
Right. I'm sorry that happened. Jen, on the other hand, found out SS victimized her daughter for years and then went to lunch with SS dad.
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That part was absolutely unbelievable! There must be a small pile of acorns between her years, because there is no excuse for what she didn’t do as a mother!
Omg I could not even imagine
She works 1or 2 days a week for 1 or 2 weeks and cant make it to her daughter's 13th bday party?
Could have set it up a day before or the day after. She just didn't care about this child
Like her ONE and ONLY child ... she didn't care about her at all
What did she do for a job? I have been following this case but I must have missed what her mother, I hate to even call her a mother the way she treated poor Madeleine. Yes her Mom needs to be in prison. RIP Madeleine 🕊️🙏🏻
@@juliapalmer2344She worked for Disney World in some capacity. 🤔
@@mnmom723 thank you so much for getting back to me. I was just curious.
26:19 Grizzly True Crime is an excellent source and one of my favorite True Crime Channels!!! Thanks Vinnie
Agreed! Love Grizzly True Crime Coverage!
G rocks the true crime community, with class and facts. 🐻🐻🐻🐻
Gisela! Vinnie! My two favorite people! I love you both! Please make this happen again!
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WOW, what a powerful team tonight ! Vinny, Gisela, and Bobby??? Love this segment ! Watching with my fellow Grizzlies 🐻🐺
She falls asleep and doesn’t go out herself to search for her missing child? I mean this woman is a terrible parent and she is covering for her sick so called boyfriend 🤮
I agree with Gisela, the downstairs makes sense. It would explain why the upstairs roommates didn't hear a struggle.
So great to see Gisela K. on your show!! She is one of the most detailed, fair, engaging and compassionate you tube reporters/authors, among many other accolades. It was like 3am for her and she is always so happy to be a guest, would never complain!! The real deal!! Please have her back more often!!
26:06 Appreciate seeing Gisela of Grizzly True Crime weighing in. Justice for Madeline ⚖️❤
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Great job @Grizzly True Crime ! Thank you for your thorough coverage & investigation. Justice for Maddie!
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This is so horrendous the mother didn't even provide her daughter her own bedroom but did rent out two bedrooms for money. Maddie was trealed less than a stray animal. The mother also said she SAW what Maddie wore that morning when she left for school ie black shorts. Jenn Soto should at least be charged with child endangerment. She knew the creep was abusing her.
Thank you Vinnie awesome guests
Grizzlies rule. Miss G is the best. Thank you Vinny for having Miss G as a guest.
Made us proud @Grizzly True Crime ❤
Grizzly true crime is awesome…great discussion on current cases
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Gisela K! ❤❤❤ Grizzly True Crime all day!
@grizzly true crime Gisela you rocked tonight.. all smiles and a little snark 😂
what 13 year old needs their moms boyfriend to make sure she gets to bed? CREEPY and something is up with the complicit mother
@Gisela, I loved seeing you and Vinnie together discussing Maddie’s case. Thank you! Everyone had insight but you seemed to know more than everyone else today. With all the rabbit holes you go down, you may be growing your own pair of rabbit ears soon! 🐰
❤Hi Vinnie! Enjoy your show sooo much and watch you all the time! Thanks for having Gisela on your show! I'm a Grizzly and I love ❤️ being a part of that incredible community! She is such an amazing mentor to her true crime followers! Love you both ❤ lots!
Great public service message: KEEP YOUR CHILD SAFE. Thank you Court TV!! No Excuse For Abuse! RIP Madeline Soto.
mother was 1000% in on it
This whole case makes me so ANGRY 🤬 Dear God
Her daughter was missing but she was sound enough asleep that she didn’t even hear stephan taking her car in the middle of the night. What mother would be able to sleep within a few hours of their child being missing?!?!
I noticed that too. 🥺 I would be walking until I couldn’t walk anymore looking for my child.
This is why I think Jenn did in her own child.
@@nemmanogg6074 The lacks maternal instincts entirely. I do remember early on that the gave birth to Jenn at the age of 13. It is a intergenerational and cultural difference. Still the child must be protected and cared for much more than the family has shown .
So to go on to answers that then she has also made mistakes in the timeline when put side by side with SS. This one you mention, she moved her time she" went to sleep" from about 11 or so till 8 or 9 when first questioned (giggling, laughing towards detective) to 3:00 am to 8 or so , At 3:15 SS went out in her car to where MS was in that row of trees. THEN PLAYS DUMB (when she wakes up) ON WHERE HE IS AND CALLS HIS PARRENTS if he's there.
There are so many that even a blind person can see it . Just have to listen to the questioning . The law enforcement are really working and pushing for justice for Madeline.
she is a pill junky and blacked out imo
Grizzly here. Great job Ms. G
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Yay! We love Gisela! Her deep dive coverage of this case is unmatched. More Grizzly X CourtTV collabs! 😍