J neuralyzing T is I woud argue LN/TN. T possessed the wrong temperment to be able to operate in the MIB, as shown in how he handled Jeffrey in the subway. He also showed while at the diner that he had too much baggage to be abe to live the secluded lifestyle needed for the agent. While it was against T's wishes, he was also doing in the best interests of both T and the MIB, as shown with how he tried to make sure to include a suggestion in the mind wipe that T work towards starting his own family, as J knew that that's where he would be happiest.
T is the sort of recruit who shot every single alien during the initial exam J went through, and for some reason nobody saw a problem with it that time.
In all three movies j's MIB interview is my favorite since you can look back and see it was all a sham *J is the only police officer and a room of military guys when MIB is expressly not military * J questions assumed rules and turn his environment to his advantage * J's a great shot but doesn't shoot just because something looks scary * J can make up a lie on the spot and make it sound convincing
Yeah, but considering the genetic defects selectively bred into designer dogs that bring them lifetimes of discomfort, breeding pugs is definitely chaotic evil so...
Nah. Frank is totally self-serving, doing whatever he thinks is his best option... except for now and again, when he does the right thing for its own sake while PRETENDING he's still being self-serving for appearances sake. That puts him at neutral good.
@@reloadpsi bitch did I say anything about dog breeders? I was talking about the EDITOR'S alignment. Skipping over Stewart's simping of the best dog in MIB. If you wanna talk about the serious crimes of dog breeders go bug someone else, because I don't care.
Also, while it's not explicitly stated, the waitress that J set up Kronk with has kids in a scene in MIB 3 and it seems to imply that Kronk and her had a family. I think that it helps show that J has a good read on people and wants what's best for them. The action was LE. It was within J's moral code but J took away part of Kronk's agency without going through the proper channels
The MiB don't work 24/7 They're kept on Centaurian time which is a 37 hour day, so they do rest for 12.3 hours a "day", it's just after working 18.5 hours (if we're treating being a MiB as working the equivalent of a 12 hour shift here on Earth) There's a reason Zed said "You'll get used to it... or you'll have a psychotic episode"
So they basically they work their asses off for more than a 24 hour period, then they crash on the bed, sleep 9-10 hours, and wake up with only 2.3-3.3 hours of free time. Yeah I can see why it would be a nightmare.
With Agent T, I would say LN edging on LG. My reasoning being T did not show the temperament for the job as he was the cause of Jeffrey's attack. Plus when neurolized, he did try to lead him to a path were he would be happiest. Last thing, I would argue just cause you do something to someone they disagree with, doesnt make it evil. If a child doesnt want to eat their veggies but a parent makes them do so, it isnt evil because it is something they need. Agent T may want to be with MIB but his display shows that him being with the MIB would cause more harm than good, including harm to T eventually.
Agent kronk being neuralyzed lawful neutral maybe good because it’s against his actual wishes but for his safety and good of others he asks questions and tries to test whether or nit he is suited for this line of work and set him for a happier more fulfilling path
To me it seems like K did the waitress thing only to justify his action to himself a little more. He neuralized a person without there being any other reason than "I do not want to work with this guy".
@@MrRevillo You remember what led to that situation, right? T completely disregarding a senior agent’s advice in dealing with Jeffrey definitely happened.
@@alecLogan Sure, he made a mistake (and it is even implied that he was not very competent / had a very bad luck streak) but there are certainly different ways of dealing with this issue. (Delegating it to the higher-ups, for example). T was accepted as an agent, which means that he has qualities as an agent - maybe he was better suited for a different position. I personally think that it was very taxing for T to work with J, because, as he expressed, he thaught that any minor slip up would get him neuralized by J. (Which was because of J's reputation)
I’d say wiping T’s memory was lawful neutral as T escalated an already tense situation and put dozens of civilians in danger. He wasn’t cut out for the job, and J was right to retire him, even if him doing so was rather cold
A little bit more due process was needed for Agent Krunk’s neuralizing, but it was sacrificing the autonomy of a violent cop to protect the public he should protect from that cops own violent action. I see this as a chaotic good but I’d honestly accept it as a neutral action with all of its ambiguities, harming the autonomy of a person from damaging a society he’s supposed to protect. The genuine risk Agent Krunk was to society in the job does not let me see J’s action as evil in that case.
I mean...he has to fire T. That was a big problem he caused. Of course, he can't leave MiB with that knowledge. If he's firing the guy, he's gotta neuralyze him. Edit: Yes, and now RUclips will punish you mercilessly for your break, because to them, your life is a detriment to their algorithm. Kind of makes you want to find a new platform, doesn't it?
That would still be a super long video, even if they skipped Ascension and the PSP titles. But that said, I would absolutely love a Kratos video with maybe a part two to cover the reboot and Ragnarok when it comes out.
@@MFAniki6390 That is the idea. Just was thinking that the whole Greek saga might make him a bit more...palatable to some. Lot's of folks forget he is Greek and the setting is Greek.
Honestly I'm less concerned about how J handled T and more concerned that J's mental manipulation of former mortician / video store clerk Newton and his girlfriend may have led to them murdering Newton's mother.
I would give a lawful neutral or even good over the T thing. Neuralyzing someone is always arguably evil, but standard procedure for MIB. T was obviously unfit for MIB service, and he couldn't go "home" knowing what he did, so that was going to happen. J made it the least unpleasant that he could and even got him started at building a new and happy life.
Still interested to someday see your take- or anyone's take. Ultimately, in reality, if an entity like the MIB existed, would you wager on them being a force for good, or would they ultimately be a force of lies and oppression? Or maybe they could just be a necessary evil. Can an agency afraid of the spread truth, really be just?
He neutralize agent T because he caused the problem with Jeffery, and I would say, that was not the fist time that agent T do something like this… J was Neutral agent T did not want to resigned, but he was a threat
i feel like if you wanted a more bit size intro into the clone wars animation, you could just do 'crosshair' from the bad batch. its only 16 episodes, and hes in about 9 of them.
While that would be a cool video, it would probably be really hard to do because do you count his actions under Order 66 as alignment dings or as actions forced against his will? It's implied he broke that control at some point during season 1 but it's never stated if/when that happened.
@@MFAniki6390 that is a fair point...but if you count the 4 episodes from the final season of the clone wars, the chip isnt really a factor, and the shot composition heavily implies that when crosshairs face was burnt was when he was no longer influence, making for a good 6 - 8 episodes total where dings can be assigned regardless of chip's effect
J neuralyzing T is I woud argue LN/TN. T possessed the wrong temperment to be able to operate in the MIB, as shown in how he handled Jeffrey in the subway. He also showed while at the diner that he had too much baggage to be abe to live the secluded lifestyle needed for the agent. While it was against T's wishes, he was also doing in the best interests of both T and the MIB, as shown with how he tried to make sure to include a suggestion in the mind wipe that T work towards starting his own family, as J knew that that's where he would be happiest.
T is the sort of recruit who shot every single alien during the initial exam J went through, and for some reason nobody saw a problem with it that time.
In all three movies j's MIB interview is my favorite since you can look back and see it was all a sham
*J is the only police officer and a room of military guys when MIB is expressly not military
* J questions assumed rules and turn his environment to his advantage
* J's a great shot but doesn't shoot just because something looks scary
* J can make up a lie on the spot and make it sound convincing
But why did little Tiffany have to die?
@@michaelmurphy2112 She was the only one dangerous at the time sir.
Skipping over Stewart simping for Frank the Pug is naturally 5 dings for Neutral Evil
Yeah, but considering the genetic defects selectively bred into designer dogs that bring them lifetimes of discomfort, breeding pugs is definitely chaotic evil so...
Nah.
Frank is totally self-serving, doing whatever he thinks is his best option... except for now and again, when he does the right thing for its own sake while PRETENDING he's still being self-serving for appearances sake.
That puts him at neutral good.
@@reloadpsi bitch did I say anything about dog breeders? I was talking about the EDITOR'S alignment. Skipping over Stewart's simping of the best dog in MIB. If you wanna talk about the serious crimes of dog breeders go bug someone else, because I don't care.
@@linkholder You cared enough to paragraph me like a week later ;)
Agent J is the only character played by will Smith that I don't just call will Smith
Damn you got me. I also call him Will Smith in everything. Even Fish Tales.
J and Hancock
dude I should totally do hancock
@@TheLoadingCrew hancock hell yeah
Never really thought about it but so do I.
Also, while it's not explicitly stated, the waitress that J set up Kronk with has kids in a scene in MIB 3 and it seems to imply that Kronk and her had a family. I think that it helps show that J has a good read on people and wants what's best for them. The action was LE. It was within J's moral code but J took away part of Kronk's agency without going through the proper channels
4:31 Basically, it's the equivalent of Obi Wan using the force to tell the death sticks seller to go home and rethink his life.
The MiB don't work 24/7
They're kept on Centaurian time which is a 37 hour day, so they do rest for 12.3 hours a "day", it's just after working 18.5 hours (if we're treating being a MiB as working the equivalent of a 12 hour shift here on Earth)
There's a reason Zed said "You'll get used to it... or you'll have a psychotic episode"
I imagine their on call 24/7 though so it still fits
So they basically they work their asses off for more than a 24 hour period, then they crash on the bed, sleep 9-10 hours, and wake up with only 2.3-3.3 hours of free time. Yeah I can see why it would be a nightmare.
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 precisely
I sometimes forget Agent J was a police officer.
Now I feel like hearing a hit song from 25 years ago. Anyone else up for some coffee?
With Agent T, I would say LN edging on LG. My reasoning being T did not show the temperament for the job as he was the cause of Jeffrey's attack. Plus when neurolized, he did try to lead him to a path were he would be happiest.
Last thing, I would argue just cause you do something to someone they disagree with, doesnt make it evil. If a child doesnt want to eat their veggies but a parent makes them do so, it isnt evil because it is something they need. Agent T may want to be with MIB but his display shows that him being with the MIB would cause more harm than good, including harm to T eventually.
Agent kronk being neuralyzed lawful neutral maybe good because it’s against his actual wishes but for his safety and good of others he asks questions and tries to test whether or nit he is suited for this line of work and set him for a happier more fulfilling path
He did at least give agent T pie and a shot with the waitress instead of just neuralizing him and walking away. I'd say that's more neutral than evil
To me it seems like K did the waitress thing only to justify his action to himself a little more. He neuralized a person without there being any other reason than "I do not want to work with this guy".
@@MrRevillo You remember what led to that situation, right? T completely disregarding a senior agent’s advice in dealing with Jeffrey definitely happened.
@@alecLogan Sure, he made a mistake (and it is even implied that he was not very competent / had a very bad luck streak) but there are certainly different ways of dealing with this issue. (Delegating it to the higher-ups, for example).
T was accepted as an agent, which means that he has qualities as an agent - maybe he was better suited for a different position.
I personally think that it was very taxing for T to work with J, because, as he expressed, he thaught that any minor slip up would get him neuralized by J. (Which was because of J's reputation)
Lawful Neutral ding for Agent T, he basically just fired him.
I would have loved a spin-off of "Agent Kronk"
He should be a monk because flurry of blows
Helping the algorithm.
I am sure this isn't the last time we'll see Will Smith on this channel. Regardless, great video guys :D
I need to rewatch this when I'm ready to pay attention
8:43 I can CONFIRM the United States Postal Service is full of Aliens
I’d say wiping T’s memory was lawful neutral as T escalated an already tense situation and put dozens of civilians in danger. He wasn’t cut out for the job, and J was right to retire him, even if him doing so was rather cold
Hey man. You should try a video about "the dude" from Big Lebowski. He is my personal interpretation of what it means to be "True Neutral".
This vid makes me want some pie :)
A little bit more due process was needed for Agent Krunk’s neuralizing, but it was sacrificing the autonomy of a violent cop to protect the public he should protect from that cops own violent action. I see this as a chaotic good but I’d honestly accept it as a neutral action with all of its ambiguities, harming the autonomy of a person from damaging a society he’s supposed to protect. The genuine risk Agent Krunk was to society in the job does not let me see J’s action as evil in that case.
I'd love to see a Gravity Falls alignment. There's great growth for many of the characters.
I mean...he has to fire T. That was a big problem he caused. Of course, he can't leave MiB with that knowledge. If he's firing the guy, he's gotta neuralyze him.
Edit: Yes, and now RUclips will punish you mercilessly for your break, because to them, your life is a detriment to their algorithm. Kind of makes you want to find a new platform, doesn't it?
Dont feel bad to take time if you needed, its easier said than done tho. Great vid :)
Could you do Kratos from the God of War setting? Specifically him during the Greek saga.
That would still be a super long video, even if they skipped Ascension and the PSP titles. But that said, I would absolutely love a Kratos video with maybe a part two to cover the reboot and Ragnarok when it comes out.
@@MFAniki6390 That is the idea. Just was thinking that the whole Greek saga might make him a bit more...palatable to some. Lot's of folks forget he is Greek and the setting is Greek.
Problem with the work/life separation here is that in MiB... work is life. You give up your life for the work.
Good video.......but the closer was the best garnish. Welcome back. :)
love the content
"J! All hail J! Oh, J can you see!"
Oof, that CGI from movie 1 hasn't aged the best.
Honestly I'm less concerned about how J handled T and more concerned that J's mental manipulation of former mortician / video store clerk Newton and his girlfriend may have led to them murdering Newton's mother.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure he didn't mean to do that. It's just that the brain of the video store clerk interpreted it that way.
Definitely unintended consequences.
Have you seen Peacemaker? If so can you please do an D&D alignment for Peacemaker please? If you don’t it’s cool.
I would give a lawful neutral or even good over the T thing. Neuralyzing someone is always arguably evil, but standard procedure for MIB. T was obviously unfit for MIB service, and he couldn't go "home" knowing what he did, so that was going to happen. J made it the least unpleasant that he could and even got him started at building a new and happy life.
The Dejavu through me for a loop
great analysis here
I would like to propose an alignment video on the driver from the movie "Drive"
Maaaaan... watching this after the Oscars feels right kek.
You thought we didn't hear you mistakenly saying FBI instead of MiB in the video, but we did
Mental note if alaina wants to put a smile on stuarts face take him to a dog park that has pugs
Still interested to someday see your take- or anyone's take. Ultimately, in reality, if an entity like the MIB existed, would you wager on them being a force for good, or would they ultimately be a force of lies and oppression? Or maybe they could just be a necessary evil. Can an agency afraid of the spread truth, really be just?
He neutralize agent T because he caused the problem with Jeffery, and I would say, that was not the fist time that agent T do something like this… J was Neutral
agent T did not want to resigned, but he was a threat
Chaotic good is the coolest good
Just ask Giovanni
I’m honestly worried what y’all think Kumagawa Misogi or Master Chief would be
You should see what alignment is alacard from Hellsing
i feel like if you wanted a more bit size intro into the clone wars animation, you could just do 'crosshair' from the bad batch. its only 16 episodes, and hes in about 9 of them.
While that would be a cool video, it would probably be really hard to do because do you count his actions under Order 66 as alignment dings or as actions forced against his will? It's implied he broke that control at some point during season 1 but it's never stated if/when that happened.
@@MFAniki6390
that is a fair point...but if you count the 4 episodes from the final season of the clone wars, the chip isnt really a factor, and the shot composition heavily implies that when crosshairs face was burnt was when he was no longer influence, making for a good 6 - 8 episodes total where dings can be assigned regardless of chip's effect
I would have thought throwing everything away to join a greater cause would be lawful, not chaotic.
Certainly C/G. He works within the system, but isn’t the system. Everything he does, he does out of the goodness of his heart, orders very damned.
I feel like you really like Pugs
Alignment of Kirk or Picard or Spock
How about a d&d alignment for either A:Steven Universe or B:Ben 10 in all eras?
Does the alien at the beginning of the first movie look like Ryan Reynolds to anyone else?
How about What D&D Alignment is Jigsaw from the SAW movies?
Please do Cad Bane
How about Ichigo from Bleach series?
What dnd alignment is frank from MIB?
LN because T, while not a active threat, wasn't very good at his job and causing a lot of problems.
When will we get frank alignment
Pokemon d&d
Is that Komi-san video ever gonna come out?
I believe he’s going to be using the dub for that video
9:05 Your script had a bit of an oops there you said K escapes with Kevin instead of J escapes with Kevin
oops
Don't be mad NYC deserves to be dumped on.