Rifle Cartridge Review: 7mm Remington Magnum
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In this video I look at the history of the 7 rem mag and the model 700, and do some comparisons beween other 7mm rifle cartridges like the 28 Nosler, 7mm Weatherby, 280 and 280 Ackley Improved. I compare it to the 264 win mag and the winchester model 70 as well.
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I love my 7mm. I think it's one of the most versatile rounds out there. There is nothing it can't drop. I have my 7mm in the Winchester model 70. It's a great rifle and I wouldn't change it for anything
I agree with you
I have a model 70 7mag and it will touch bullets with 175 grainers at 100. Just wish it weren't sooo long lol.
It's a nice rifle they really shoot nice
I love my 7 mag, you're correct in saying "it just works".
Yes! 👍🏻
I been shooting 7 remington mag for over 40 yrs. Great Mule Deer, Elk Cartridge. Shoots 150 to 165 excellent. Easy to shoot.
It’s a good one for sure. Thanks
I love my 7mm rem mag. Never let me down.
One thing I am fairly sure of is the the newer 7 mm cartridges won’t make the 7 mm Remington magnum obsolete and I think the same thing can be said for the 300 Winchester magnum neither one is going away
I agree
It was a shame Norma made 308 norma magnum a couple of year before 300 win mag. I think Normas case is better and I think Winchester had made it that way If normas didnt exist.
Just picked up my first 7mm rem mag. Got a CVA casvade XT, its awesome so far, very accurate.
Right on!
They shoot great
I was brought up with the 7mm Rem Mag. Still believe in it. Killed a nice 10 pt at 639 yards with it a few years ago. The people, who had been running it down, stopped after that. 😎
It’s a proven killer on game, at all distances.
Years ago I bought a 7MM Rem Mag in a Browning. For whatever reason I could never get that rifle to group a 1 MOA no matter what bullet powder combination I tried so I sold the gun. Recently I came across a Weatherby in 7 Mag that the gun shop could not sell. He said people didn’t like the green stock on the rifle. He made me a good deal on the gun so I decided to give the 7 Mag another go. The gun has a 9 1/2 twist and with both 150 and 160 gr bullets I am not disappointed in my purchase.
Awesome!
My first rifle was a model 700 BDL in 7MM REM MAG that would shoot 5/8” groups with 160 Partitions at 2965 fps using IMR 4831 at one grain below max. As you said, it simply worked. Unfortunately, it was stolen out of my buddy’s truck three days after I killed a 170” plus mulie on my uncle’s ranch. Unfortunately, my buddy’s 270 was stolen as well. I still predominately use the 7MM Mag and probably always will!
Awesome, thanks!
The first set of dies were stamped 280-338 Magnum and was developed by Les Bowman in the 1960 in Northwest Wyoming. Les offered this to Remington and Remington called it the 7MM Rem Mag. Les guided two people from Remington on a hunting trip and they shot the 280-338 and this is how it started.
Cool, thanks for sharing that
Bought a 700 BDL in 7mm Rem Mag in the mid seventies, finally settled on Hornady’s 162 grainers over a near max dose of IMR 4350 in the late eighties. Could have been one load shooter earlier, but, one seems to learn when one is ready to learn.
Awesome
Yup the 7mm rem mag JUST WORKS. Mine has a 24 inch tube with a 9 1/ 2 inch twist and I have zero issues shooting 175 gr noslers which are the Quintessential elk bullet..NOSLERS BABY..ALL DAY EVERY DAY .LIKE THE 7MM REM MAG, THEY JUST WORK.
True
I love listening there buddy awesome radio😁👍👍
I've finished my uncle's 7RemMag 175 Partition, now im currently working on the 160 Accubond. We got great results today, he got awesome groups out to 300yds. He got small overlapping groups inside of a dime. Took years to finally produce great groups. Alot of trial and error.
You cant go wrong with the 7RemMag with a 26" barrel for hunting big game👍👍
Awesome, thanks!
I have two custom 7 Rem mags. one in a 26 " 1 in 10 twist for the lighter shorter bullets 120. thru 145grain.
A 26" 1 in 9.25 twist for 145 -160 gr and am currently getting ready to build a 26 " 1 in 8 twist for long heavy bullets
The 7 Rem mag Works !
That’s awesome!
my favorite, 7mm Rem Mag. don't hurt my old shoulder, shoots straight and has plenty of power.
It’s a fan favorite for sure, and for good reason
I agree about the model 70. Getting away from the full Mauser claw extractor was NOT what the consumer wanted. There's an entire category titled Pre-64 Winchesters for a reason. However, push feed is in darn near everything now. If you're going to build a custom gun, more than likely, it's going to have a Model 700 type action. My favorite action of all time is the Weatherby Mk 5 which is a push feed.
As a contrast, 7mm Rem mag would be interesting in a BAR Mk II safari with BOSS--the BOSS really does work to tune the barrel for different bullet weights as I learned with a 30-06 BAR. It's loud AF, though. Many people didn't like the BOSS system for that reason. My BAR Mk2 was sub MOA all day long......people don't believe it, but it was. It was one of the greatest regrets of my life to sell that gun.....
Great comment!! Thanks for watching! Push feed has definitely proved its worth and is here to stay
@@hopefulballistics Thanks. You're welcome.
I still shoot a 7mm rem mag.. it is one of the most versatile cartridge.. and when you reload it the magic happens
Right on
My old 1975 BDL 7mm magnum with the fleur de lis checkered stock is my favorite rifle. I'm going on 65 and the 300 winchester magnum of mine don't kill em any deader.
I really can't tell the difference between the two.
Right on! Nice rifle!
Bought a vanguard 7 RM about 10 months ago. Came with muzzle brake which makes it surprisingly pleasant to shoot at range. Bedded the action then the barrel and played around with about 5 different factory loads. Easily shoots all the loads sub moa after the bedding jobs. Federal terminal accent gets down in the 1/2 moa range. Ill play with it out to 750 yds with very satisfactory results. Haven't hunted with it but on paper it has very satisfactory results within reasonable hunting ranges up to elk size animals and recoil should be manageable for most everyone. 7mm bullets just seem to be the sweet spot for a lot of things.
That’s great. Sounds like you have a sweet rifle.
I like the 7mm Remington magnum very much but don’t forget about the best all around big game cartridge that nobody uses: the 7mm weatherby magnum! Cmon weatherby, offer it in your vanguard line!
Your not the first person who has commented about the 7 Weatherby. It seems like an underrated cartridge. I need to do more research on that one.
I sure like mine.
There is NOT a Penny's worth of difference between the Weatherby and Remington 7mm magnums . They both shoot the same bullets and powders and velocity is identical . It's just a matter of which rifle you like better. THE MARK V R THE 700 BDL.
@@twolak1972There is not a penny's worth of difference between the 7mm Wby and the 7mm Stw. The 7mm Rem is much closer to 7mm Wsm performance wise. To match the Wby you'd need another 4000+ PSI chamber pressure, well above the safe threshold.
@@billbennett9537 Look at the verities. They're so close it's not even worth mentioning
🎉I own the 280 AI. I love it. Just purchased a 7prc and am kind of excited to try it out on game. The AI is a killing machine.
Yes it is
I used to shoot a 7x61 Sharpe & Hart in the late 1950s early 1960swhich I believe was Remington's insperation for the 7mm Rem Mag. It was on a par with the Weatherby and in some bullet weight load was superior. I resently picked up a Sako L61R Finnbear chamber in 7mmRem Mag. I am refurbish ing it and look forward to shooting the 7mm again. With the improvement in bullets it can only be better.
That Sako and 7 Rem Mag is a cool combo!
140 grain nosler partion. shoots like a bloody laser !
👍✌️
oops 63.5 grains of ar2213sc.
shot myself a hare (what the usa calls a jackerloper) and 983m.....yeah ok took me 3 rounds but i was happy
Preaching to the choir here. Amen corner is shouting and hanky waving. I have the 2nd 700 BDL 7mm RemMag I traded for(with my brother) back in 1993/94. My first was in 87/88. I bought a Savage 110 Storm in 7Mag a few years ago and am very pleased and quite impressed with it. I agree wholeheartedly. Thank you.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Not my favorite cartridge... but as you said it works!
Same. Thanks for watching!
150 grain is an amazing sweet spot for 7mm Rem mag. It delivers the most energy down range of all the grains and is very tolerable for recoil. I use 150 for deer, black bear, moose, chipmunks. If I'm walking bush, though, nothing beats the 30-06 pump action with raised scope. Can still use iron sights for fast acquisition and shots on target, but also still has a 3-9x50 if the shot needs to be longer. Pretty much the only 2 guns I use. I used to have a lever 30-30, but it didn't shoot any faster than my pump and couldn't shoot out as far. Not to mention have nowhere near as good ballistics. It just makes a 30-30 obsolete.
I appreciate the comment, thanks
I have a tc compass that I installed partridge post and peep iron sights on, gave it a walnut boyds stock and bedded the action, it is a handsome gun. I shot out to 1100 yards with it a few years back (using a scope, not the irons lol)
I forgot to mention, it is chambered in 7mm Rem Mag.
Sounds like a sweet rifle!
I love my Weatherby Vanguard2 in 7mm rem mag. It's an accurate out of the box rifle and cartridge. Guy Miner on Gavins UR channel was doing loads at around 3300 ft per second with a 150 grain bullet. With that velocity you could easily kill Elk.
Absolutely.
I’d rather have a heavier bullet in the 7 rem mag for just about all applications except for long shots across ag fields on deer. I could see a 150 gr bullet used on elk if it’s mono-metal construction. Speed isn’t everything. It can be counter-productive, in fact.
I have shot a 7mm rem mag for may years Harvested mule, whitetail, and moose in British Columbia, and Ontario Canada. The bigest mule was 325 lb field dressed on the butchers scale and moose was 55 5/8 rack and the cow was bigger . Shot with 1 shot at 250 yd we had 1800 lbs of meat at the butcher with the hide on.
That’s awesome
Good job👍 I love my 7mm rm. Regards from Sweden
Thank you for watching! 👍
I shoot 175 grain out of my 7mm mag
Get yourself a 7 weatherby mag.
I have a 90's era browning a bolt stainless stalker in 7mm rem mag. I live and hunt out west for elk, mule deer, black bear, etc... I love the balance of recoil vs. downrange energy of the 7 mag. The problem I am having is accuracy. I am wanting to get into longer range hunting at 500+ yards or so. The problem with this gun is accuracy. I probably average 1.5-2.0 inch groups. If I can't get it down to MOA or better, there is no point reaching past 500 or so. What accuracy are other people seeing with factory rifles using factory ammo? Seems like the newer creedmoor and PRC cartridges offer better accuracy out of the box.
I appreciate the comment!
I have a Browning medallion 7 mm mag and I love it bolt action
Very nice rifle!
Completely agree.
Thanks for watching
There is a gray area with twist rate.
I was just givin a killer deal from my old friend on a interarms mark x with a 24” barrel 7 rem mag. I’m not sure the twist rate on it yet I haven’t checked. Anyone familiar with these rifles. It’s getting me into reloading now 😂
It’s on the edge in recoil light weight riffles hurt on a bench heavy riffles no issues … ouch mine is lightweight
@@aussieshootandhuntadventur4973 I understand
Have a savage model 110 7mm rem mag, hornady 154gr works the best. I’m using a kahntrol solutions muzzle break, great gun to shoot
Right on!
I'm just wondering what the 7prc impact will be on the 7rem mag over the next 5 years
I think long term it will have a significant impact. 5 years probably only a small impact. Time will tell
@@hopefulballistics it wont...unless brass is cheap and there is a lot of factory offerings...its not going anywhere
Zero impact. Hornady has produced fictitious ballistics. Time will sort out the hype.
Rifle choice and factory ammo availability for the non loading hunter will win everytime.
I'm considering buying a howa 1500 with a 1-9.5 twist. I want to run 175gr factory loaded softpoints, but I'm concerned they won't stabilize, and i don't handload. A 300wm with 180gr bullets is appealing except the recoil.
What length barrel on the 1500?
@hopefulballistics 24-inch barrel.
@@TonyTheFlatlander I think you’ll be happy with it
I found 180 grain worked well in my 30-06 game master pump
Nice!
Your welcome
7 mm mag works great
Yes it does!
I think you should rename your channel to “Coffee and Cartridges.” You might have been on to something when you mentioned that on one of your videos.
Thanks, interesting idea! Coffee and Cartridges is one of the shows on the channel with its own playlist
I have a REM. Model 700 custom. A load of 195 gr. Barnes is potent medicine for Elk and Moose. Super accurate, but does kick on both ends.
I like your assessment of the 7 RM. It's just a killing stick. Damn right it is. Mine has been doing it for 30 + years . With 150 and 175 gr bullets there is not a animal in north america I would be afraid to turn it loose on. It has been a trusted friend in the woods and when the moment of truth arrives ITS A DONE DEAL and I,m eating backstraps for supper. Would sooner lose a limb than my beloved 7mm mag.
@@hopefulballistics Every time I see one of your videos I say, “There’s Mr. Coffee and Cartridges!” It makes me wanna go make a pot of coffee.
Can we get a review on the 300RUM!
Yes, I’ll add that to the list.
I bought a Ruger model 77 Mark II 7mm rem mag in excellent condition for 350.00 dollars. Did I get a good deal? How good is a Ruger model 77 Mark II?
Great deal
I just got one in a remington 700 for future nilgai hunts... the 308 i had let me down
Good luck to you
7mm is the bees knees. Hunted with a Remington 700 ADL blind magazine. Had it shooting 1 moa for 5 shot groups . Down side for me as a hand loader was the recoil and belted case and expense. More gun than needed for Bambi. It liked a max charge of IMR 4350 and 140gr Nosler ballistic tip. Lot of wasted meat. Went back to the 30-06 . Think the 280 is a better all around cartridge. Just me.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@Jess Hadlock I will agree the 7 mags are best served with 160 and 175 grain bullet . The sectional density of 175gr 7mm bullet is legendary for penitration. I was younger then and loaded with the 140 to beat the 270 Winchester I first used to hunt deer. I use the 180 slowed down in my 30-06 hand loads . Think about using the 200/220 grain bullets because 200yards is a long shot in the east Texas piney woods. I look at the 30-06 as a 30-30 Winchester magnum.
@Jess Hadlock Plan on restocking my Remington 06 with a Boyt stock with a recoil pad up grade. Have a 3x9 scope mounted on it. Some times wish I had a 2x7 mounted low but think I will try a small reflex sight mounted on the scope for those close in running shots.
@Jess Hadlock Over my years deer hunting. I've need less than 3x more than I need 9x . I wide field of view is needed for those close and running shots. Learn that lesson at age 16 using a 270 Winchester. Had a 6x18 power scope. Great for lode development but cause me to wound a deer about 15 yards. Hit too far back at the last rib. All I could see is brown fur. Found the deer the next day. What a waste.
I could not agree more.😂
Another Remington 7 mm if you gotta have a 7 mm get a 280 Remington but better yet get a 270 Winchester and go hunting
Its to bad the 7mmRM cant be loaded to 64000psi you would have Weatherby performance . Its a glorified 7mm express (280 Rem) But everything Remington did seemed to fail (8mm Rem Mag) My god .323 If they made it the .338 Rem mag....or 308 Rem Mag with the same case? that would sell
Anyway dont waste your time with the .284's go to .308 and get a 300 WM. I bet if Remington was still in business they would come out with a .311 Rem Mag or some other calibre that you cant find a Good bullet in. The 7mm STW should have been the 7mm RM. Magic number is 3000ftsec with a SD of .300
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the comment
The 7mm Rem Mag should have been the Mashburn Super that Warren Page appealed to Remington to commercialize. But Remington wanted something with moderate recoil that wouldn't develop the early reputation as a barrel burner that the .264 Win was already acquiring. So they focused on a wildcat based on a necked down .338 Win, did some research at the Bowman Ranch, and finalized on what we now know as the 7mm Rem Mag, introduced with the M700 in what is surely one of the most classy dynamic duos in sporting rifle history.
The only reason to skip the .284s and get a .300 Win Mag is if you want to absorb 30% more recoil for the same effect downrange. If you're a masochist who enjoys taking punishment for the sake of punishment, with nothing to show for it, by all means, get a .300 Win and almost literally knock yourself out.
My brother and I had ourselves a little arms race when we were a younger, and full of piss and vinegar. He had to one up my 7mm Rem Mag, so he got a .300 Win Mag. Yeah, the paper ballistics were impressive, but the game we shot must not have read ballistics charts, because they didn't seem any more impressed with the .300 Win than they did with the 7mm Rem. After about a decade and a buttload of animals, my brother begrudgingly admitted the .300 Win didn't seem to kill animals any more dead any faster than the 7mm Rem Mag, and certainly not enough to justify the added recoil tax at the shoulder. I still slay with that 7mm Rem Mag. My brother quietly retired the .300 when he inherited a .30-06 from our grandpa.
Getting the downrange performance of the .300 Win with the recoil of the 06 is what makes the 7mm Rem so special. It is as close to something for nothing as you get in physics.
Theres not a Penny's worth of difference between the weatherby or rem mag. They both shoot identical ballistics . This BS that a weatherby is faster is BS. CHRONOGRAPHS DONT LIE.
BUllshit..the.wearherby has no advantage over the remington.. Look.at.the ballistic charts. The Remington & weatherby are Neck & neck.
I have to agree. Deer hunted with one for year. Not a fun gun to shoot like 223 or pistole cartridge lever actions. Too expensive to load for and recoil a litte to much for a day of plinking. It is a meat gun for sure. Sometimes less experience riflemen thinks it is a bolt of lightning from the Greek Gods and can make up for poor marksmanship. I help to track many deer wounded with the 7mm mag. I went full circle back to the trusty rusty 30-06 out of spite from all the bs of how great the 7mm mag is. It is great only in the right hands of a good hunter and marksman. I think the big powerful magnums takes more skill to master and take advantage of the performance of it. The 6.5 Creedmore is popular for a reason. Heavy advertising and easier to master than a Magnum.
Thanks for the comment!
SOUNDS LIKE BULL AND SMELLS LIKE TRUMP. My 7mm Rem has dropped everything I've aimed at in 40 yrs. No searching for wounded game. I call bs.
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I brought my first 7 mag ,at cooks in benver 1978 ,I was 28 Lobe the round WHEN you are married,family No one has the money for all these BULL crap rifles IT JUST WORKS
It definitely does
Yea, but… the 7 PRC just works better. 😮😅🤣🤣🤣
@@youngin881 that’s an opinion, thanks for sharing and watching
My only complaint about the 7mm Rem Mag is the belt. Reloading 7 Rem Mag cases can be an issue after several reloads. I am looking at purchasing a special forming die to resize up to the belt. I am lookin at going to the 280 AI for target and hunting. I will always have a 7 Rem Mag.
Yeah the belt is a minor detraction on an otherwise great cartridge.
@@hopefulballistics Yes the bulge above the belt is a pain. I have shot 30.06 rifles with more recoil than my 7mm Remmie. It is a flat shooter. I like your videos.
@@chriscosby2459 thank you