Or a SCP containment breach style game. Though I feel that would be hard considering some of the shit abnos do when out of containment. Like I don't think randomly dying from facility wide damage would be fun.
One theory as to why the passengers get to experience 1000s of years on a Warp train: W-corp is not bottling 'Time' to sell to T-Corp but instead 'Experience'. Sure they erase the memory of everything at the end of the journey, but it still happened. First class tickets are so expensive because without experiencing the journey, they are paying the actual cost of running a trans-dimensional train, the economy class is just paying in the form of centuries of monetizable pain and suffering. (With a some extra for profit!) The City seems to work on a level where 'Ideas' are as fundamental to how reality works as the speed of light or the gravitational constant. So a question like, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" is *VERY* much at play in the technology of the setting.
With how PM adapted stephen King's "The Jaunt," I'd say the suffering of 'beings' is indeed what fuels most singularities in the city. K corp, W corp, Lob Corp, and R corp have shown examples of why it is the main component of their corporations.
theyre absolutely collecting time to sell to tcorp what this is just what happens in the game wcorp uses their wormhole singularity to send a train into a alternate dimension where hundreds of thousands year there is barely seconds here, so they can place them in time moratorium to collect their future time and locking them in the present and when the trip is done, wcorp staff ravel up the inevitable corpses to their seats, then reset them with the weird machine in the chairs that stores a savestate at the start theres no experience collection, we'd probably hear of that by now, and i dont think n corp has any scarcity of traumatic experiences or reason to have countless versions of similar ones, and besides i dont think wcorp would be willing to share their secret with ncorp just so they can make a couple torture devices with no longterm deal
@@desadograisedrobot515 i dont think wcorp would want to share their secret with kcorp, especially since its very unlikely wcorp knows kcorps secret, and ncorp probably has tons of thousands-year-long traumatic experiences they can use for whatever purposes, no real reason to strike a deal with wcorp for a new variety of it
An interesting fact about why the sweepers are missing from limbus company, that delves more into the heirarchy of the city. The reason why the sinners are unaffected by the sweepers is because Limbus Company filed for a permit that designates mephi(the bus) as a city approved residence. Which is why the sweepers do not come after the sinners every night.
@blehh_mae i dont remember where it was exactly mentioned, and can't go through stories to check cause I'm at work. But I think it was around TKT or in Dante's notes, I'll check when I get home to make sure though.
Limbus company comes to the conclusion that instead of emotions changing with time, peoples emotions are what drive the passage of time. This would explain why Warp Trains keep only first class in cryo.
what would be better, endure pain for thousand of years just to move a train from A to B or get strapped to a tickling table for thousand of years to move a train from A to B
@@anthonynguyen2661the Latter option would be preferable but, that would need an employee to be inside the train just to strap all of the people to the tickling machine and monitor it so noone escapes. It's not a viable option because God forbid paying that certain employee, they're already grifting the passengers by not paying them for unknowingly running the train, why the fuck would they spend money for the tickling table idea when it would lower profits.
@@anthonynguyen2661 still more expensive than not having the automated tickling chair, and they're not gonna remember it anyway so it's not really that much of a priority to not torture the passengers.
@alberttrita5858 wdym " not torture " ? tickling is torture people can die from this and i believe tickling even bring out more emotion power than pain that is why i bring up the comparison in the first place.
9:02 I’d like to mention that in Lob corp, you’re playing as a manager who’s viewing this only as much as Angela lets you. In Ruina, this limit is undone, and you fight this thing in its “ideal environment,” up close, with detail. There are puddles of partially melted, screaming people on the ground, screaming through partially destroyed lungs and throats. This thing doesn’t just “consume” bodies, it absorbs them with whatever corrosive aspect of its body too, and often times those who are caught in its main body or a sizable chunk of the corrosive substance are stuck, wailing in agony until it fully consumes them.
Not only that, but the love tragedy it happens. For the specific scenario of Love Town and Tomerry, it is f'd up how time literally led to two lovers forgetting about their individuality and their love for each other, for the purpose of fighting for a imaginary town and their "parents". Merry's guilt also comes into play, because she wanted Tommy to go on a Warp train with her for their vacation, and when she wanted to go under surgery with him, she tried to induce Tommy to do it. And at the end, Merry is all alone when you burst Tommy's head in their reception, and alone forever, since W corp's singularity can't bring them back anymore
I loved love town, ironically enough. Though I loved it so much more after reading stephan kings 'long jaunt' I'm 100% sure they are inspired by it and I love how they handled it
I appreciate not dissing Limbus, especially that even though i am an old-timer when it comes to PM games, i personally appreciate a lot that Limbus has in store. However, Limbus "horror" stems more from psychological aspect, focuses on burden, helplessness and flaws of human mind rather than largescale terror of the City that Library gave us in detail. With this, heads up on Canto 1 - as PM did well to remind player that it's not even the war itself that the section was focusing on. The nightmare-ish development of Smoke War vision catalyzes with each loop, showing that what REALLY weights on Gregor's shoulders isn't the memory of the battlefield, as much as the expectations piled up on him by everyone around; demanding him to live up to ambitions of his mother and be leader for the soldiers fighting a losing war. Forever scarred by this, Gregor's mentally blocked from actions that may be tied to people's expectations: not wanting to stay in view, backing off from TKT investigation just by feeling someone else's eyes on him, and even from gameplay point of view, working better in backline or on the bench rather than put as a main clasher. That being said, he does want to not be sentenced to life as bottomfeeder, desiting to feel proud again, but finding no way to achieve that. Little scenes where he's acting in spotlight, always end in embarassment, causing him to crawl back to comfort zone. Funny when seeing it once, tragic when you think about it. Exactly the line you said about taking comedy and then turnign it into horror in retrospective. In the frigging chicken episode, he was, for once, acting proud - happy to cook because he felt that if there is ONE thing he felt he's good at, was cooking. And he's subsequently CRUSHED by words decribing his honest efforts as absolute garbage. And limbus is full of little details like this, making my schizo brain DELIGHT in re-experiencing it in retrospective.
@@anthonynguyen2661 A parasite living in a hole in middle of nowhere; exploiting those gullible and those weak, yet still forced under boot of someone else, doing someone else's business - forever blocked from climbing up.
@@JannetFenix to be able to exploit meaning to be able to be above someone else, that is way better than other IDs, better than pure bottom feeder. Im not saying he living the best but is living *his best* he pretty confident about it too in his ID story .
For Limbus a lot of people got thrown off cause of the gacha which half the time you dont need to use it cause the ego shards are literally right there Canto 1 all the way to the current one plus the tie in events i love LOR and L Corp but theres much more horrifying elements in limbus be it not in your face all the time but its still there plus WalpurgisNacht is the best of both worlds too so I agree with what you said
@robinbrando8662 I like writting in limbus because a lot of dsrkness in the characters seeps out naturally - so, so reminiscent of Lobotomy corp's slow burn, with which sephira would reveal their scars in seemingly casual conversations. And it got to be said, sinners are more fleshed out as flawed humans, with multilevel of those scars.
I still love the idea that Iori was the one who snuck onto the WARP Train and trained everyone. She's the kind of person who would (as God knows how many apprentices she has) and the existence of her ability to teleport definitely makes it much easier for her to sneak on or maybe somehow escape the time effects of the train.
That's actually really interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Personally I like the idea that it was something that happened like a couple of decades ago, we don't know how long City has been around afaik but I like the idea of proper history being established in universe. Cool theory though I like it
@@x-3688 they didn't know if they were a colour or not they just assumed and since Roland is pretty powerful we can assume that he's the fixer they were talking about
@@DinoDave935 apparently more than 200 years if the amount of time that Don Quixote's siblings have gone without proper sustainence is anything to believe.
Apparently nobody else felt the need or saw the need to correct it, I do though. 46:35 We do not see Eileen gearify her father, no she exposits to the poor sap that he's going to become a thought gear like her dear father.
A thing to remember: In the Limbus Company Intervallo IV-II: Murder on the WARP Express, the LCB was lucky to be backed up with a First Class ticket for a W Corp. train, or else, we could literally get to see Dante wilfully detonating himself because of the insanity.
@@OrnamentalShrubb You got a point. The Company is not gonna like that they lost the Golden Bough inside Dante's Head though since we don't know if the Bough can get affected by W Corp's reset.... Might explain why they got First Class in the first place...
L corps singularity is to manifest things from the human mind remember? Digging into someone's mind to pull something out? Makes sense that they're named Lobotomy Corporation...
Also the procedure practically kills your brain and soul so it's practically a lobotomy because they unironically probe your mind, you become a mindless empty husk and then get put down for your own good assuming you didn't die immediately in the procedure. Which mirrors how in real life, lobotomies would more often than not kill the actual person and leave only a shadow of their former selves moving around their body.
The revelation of the prescripts is one piece of understated horror that filled me with complete and total dread. Not as shocking or inherently memorable as love town, but every time I think about it I just distort a little bit more about the eldritch horror of the index
Yan's feeling of helplessness, when all of his attempts at proving his free will end up failing and showing he's just a slave to the Will. "Oh yeah, the Will knew you were forging Prescripts, but it told us to follow your fake ones because it's still part of its plan" Holy shit What makes it work over all-knowing characters like Aizen from Bleach (and honestly, Iori in PMoon too) is that the Will is this unknowable and abstract entity. You can't even be sure whether it exists or not. Either there's a higher being playing puppetmaster with all the denizens of the city, or everyone is following completely random and pointless orders. In either case, free will does not exist.
@@lavos333 and it's not even the bottom of the things. Your incentive to follow the prescript is mostly "or else then someone's prescript will be to kill you", which, in turn, is completely grounded in another person's motivation to follow thaat prescript, with exactly the same incentive. This vicious circle (or, actually, a ball of vicious yarn, because it is way more than one loop) is sustainable only by its participants' compliance, which is not something about "free will", as every and each participant has a full right to refuse and defy the prescript (and face the consequences, however, if every single participant simultaneously decides to defy the current and all further prescripts, no consequences will happen), but chooses to comply. This is a ridiculous concept if described that way, but it becomes truly dreadful when I add that this, albeit, usually not that exaggerated and lethal, is a very common human behavior. This is how social norms are enforced, introduced and propagated. This is how a totalitarian regime stabilises itself. This is a completely arbitrary social system that only works because the majority of the people choose to participate in it. Except, the "punisher" in that system is akin to a Kapo in a death camp: they are forced to do their grueling work too, except their work is punishing. The Prescripts anonymize that threat of punishment, making you a punisher and the (potential) punished simultaneously, thus looping that vicious ball of oppression yarn back to itself. The Index is, if we strip its essence to bare bones, a society that operates on Prisoner's Dilemma. And so are, at times, we, because the subjects do not refuse to comply, and their punishers do not refuse to punish.
Outskirts has a TON of potential for deep dwelled horrors. Coming from how the city and the outside are both depicted in the form of "Stars, Nebulas, and Galaxies". First, we got giants like the christmas gremlins from canto 4.5, the Cosmic horrors known as the whales, and even the possibility of human "A.I." usurping domination outside. Some of these things are really an impurity for the city as it threatens the overwhelming hiearchy that makes it function as a "galaxy."
My guess is that Blue Star is 100% based on something related to the outskirts but in Abno form. We keep hearing about stars, celestials and other stuff way beyond the outskirts. The Head and the city might be surrounded at all times by things on par or worse than Aleph-tier abnos, and the Pianist did a number on the city despite being a "beyond WAW but not ALEPH" as stated by ProjectMoon. So it's clear the Head might be able to deal with it, but the people of the city won't. Which is exactly the prophecy of the Apocalypse Bird abno as once the Head steps into action one day to attempt to protect the City by tightening the grip around, it will save the city, but destroy everyone in the process, everyone still surviving by then will leave or die, physically or mentally or both, and the only thing left will be the Head and a barren city. And then not long after, in the new world beyond... *"• Rumours say that there's a terrible government in the black city where nobody lives."* That might be the endgame.
Shit, even the Pallid Whale was mentioned to be scared, coward or some sort of potential prey even to things inside the River/Outskirts if memory serves right. Imagine that. A beast that can swallow buildings whole, whose mighty tail breaks cloud coverage...hiding, quiet in the unknown to not let the Things that lurk within find it.
limbus actually explains why the T corp device is actually there "" Yi Sang noted that, from W Corp.’s cooperation with T Corp., it is likely that they need ‘time’ to operate their trains. Moreover, the T Corp. Chief Executive Director said that emotions don’t change with time; instead, time changes with emotions. It was something to that effect, at least. - Based on what everyone has said, we came to a pretty plausible conclusion. That a state of emotionally transformative consciousness in an effective infinity of time is what moves, or powers, the WARP trains. Either that, or that state of consciousness is precisely what WARP trains are built to induce. Some Sinners and I applauded Yi Sang and Heathcliff for this hypothesis." in short the usage of T corp is the engine for the warp trains and they use the passengers emotions for fuel. we also know in the Intervallo that w corp transports cargo from point a to point b meaning that they exploit people's suffering to actually transport it since the cargo doesn't actually fuel the train with emotions.
37:08 another thing I like about the W corp. logo is that its design symbolizes how the WARP trains actually work: the straight line through the center being how "quickly" the train arrives at its destination, while the "W" moves up and down taking much longer to reach the same point; also, the straight line covers up the W, symbolizing the hidden truth of the trains travel time
PM universe is bassicaly "What if the Chaos Insurgency controlled the world and the SCP Foundation was like: Fuck it. We ball and try to bring HOPE to the world which is DEFINETELY not going to make everything worse 💀"
Ayin's only mistake in his plan was giving Angela free will at the end, he didn't dictate her to shut down or lock herself away or whatever he COULD'VE done. Speaking from a logical standpoint btw, not ethical or moral, so I won't mention the torture aspects of the plan etc. All he had to do was make sure Angela didn't interfere with the conclusion of the play, and the Light would've spread and slowly healed the City over an unknown course of time. Unless Ayin is actually the most clever character in the verse and somehow gigabrained it so that he knew Angela would release her own light at the very end and that distortions were needed or whatever, but that's a bit too much cope for me.
@anusaukko6792 Ayin is a geniues, but he is a broken one. It really was explained that angela was supposedly his coping method from Carmen but then he realized Angela was more like him(his dull and logical personality) which further causes him to despise her. He only used her as a tool and made the plan after seperating himself, and I'd say his own creations is what led him to succeed and fail at the same time.
Personally I feel like that Ayin’s blunders start a lot earlier than that. Who in their right mind would find a random black goo and then just inject it into someone without running any tests? If they just did the tests and found oh cogito fucking kills people then Carmen would’ve never started trying to off herself.
@@Kofhiliphus I know all of this, I'm just saying that hindsight is 20/20 since original comment mentioned making things worse, which is a result of individual failings instead of an actual flaw in everything.
33:15 this is incorrect. The passengers did NOT leave this specific train, causing a huge scandal for W-Corp. It applies to every other train (except the canto6.5.2 one) though.
despite looking very funny the idea that the inhumans of the outskirts celebrate christmass by masscaring humans and gifting corpses to eachother because they hate humans so much that seeing one dead is like getting a puppy for them probably is very fucked up
@@DinoDave935 Well, if they didn’t appear how they did, how would they be able to deceive Don? They are designed to get humans to find them cute, so they can kill them more easily.
I think Limbus taking a comedic approach to the city fits a lot more for the characters we have at play, and also the story source since y’know “Dante’s Divine Comedy”, but it’s probably really gonna get dark like the past entries once we get into Ryoshu and Faust and Dante
@@ericwijaya2119 200 years of suffering and hunger nah 10000 years of emptiness no 1million years of watching the same suffering happend again and again.
@@anthonynguyen2661well it kind of different type of suffering Love town are a pain cause of waiting Waiting for something to happen free you from never ending hell While la manchaland is pain inflicted by hunger and thirst Which more than just food but it is a happiness Bloodfiend if they didn't drink blood they aren't unable to feel happiness Unlike love town passengers they didn't lose their mind They are still able to know what happens
Love town was easily one of the best side stories, if not the best, that Pmoon ever made, especially cause of the existential dread you feel just watching it play out, I remember and I hate it so much cause of how uncomfortable it made me but I can't deny it's good and did it's job of being memorable
Honestly, having watched this video and re-appreciating every bit of horror in Lobcorp and Ruina, not gonna lie I gotta say Limbus is missing a little bit of that. Well, here's to hope that Hong Lu's canto will be the most messed up thing ever imagineable I guess!
36:30 “It’s longer than you think.” Edit: 54:25 white night is more of a anti-Christ. He is there for a false salvation while one sin and hundreds of good deeds is the actual jesus stand in for story, vanquishing the evil that white night spreads by the 12th apostle’s praying.
I knew how the warp trains work and it is straight up hell and I will not deny it but I will still ride the train because the reason is simple you can do whatever the fuck you want in the warp train and get zero consequences in the real world as long as you’re willing to wait an extra thousand years or so
I suppose that is one upside. If someone really hates their job but happens to take the same train as their boss it could be something to look forward to without looking forward to
All you have to do is be the strongest person on the train and you could make up a dictatorship/monarchy system, or be like that one guy who trained all of the passengers to the point they put up a good fight against the W-Corp agents.
@@DinoDave935 Tcorp is...Interesting, i wont say much on it so you can experience it by yourself, but i will say that we may be getting a Pcorp-focused intervallo soon...which i am very hopeful will delve into the horror aspect. Either that, or we what i have been wanting since i started playing Sweeper-only ruina, we get limbus sweepers...cannot wait either way, but i need more sweeper love from pmoon
this really is a rabbit hole, i used to only know of lobotomy corp thinking it was just a factory management scp clone, 2 years later and now ive been sucked into the project moon storyline
I remember getting Mountain and Nothing There on the same day in my Lcorp playthrough. They were miserable, but somehow overtime they became nothing but goobers I want to keep as pets.
Love town is the whole reason i got into project moon. From the video i found it thru,i thought it was gonna talk about a dilf dating sim with eldritch elements. Imagine my surprise when instead it talk about warp trains. But was the most life changing video i ever watched,because it got me into limbus company.
*NERD SHIT ALERT* *I REPEAT THERE IS SOME NERD SHIT INCOMING* (Also LoR Spoilers) My favorite Project Moon ~Haunting Horror~ is one that's surprisingly not widely discussed. Although it lacks the gore-y staple PM usually brings, the Index absolutely brings some of the most psychologically dreadful horror and city shattering revelations. Being given tasks known as prescripts that start out simple at first but can quickly ramp up to alarming or even impossible, and when you fail those tasks the people that were supposed to “protect” you from outside threats are once again tasked to punish you based on their prescript. Already a classic PM move of treating the lower class is if their lives are meaningless, but Yan’s story of putting an end to the seemingly random prescripts is even more horrifying in my eyes. To eventually get to the end of the chain of command just to find one person who is simply translating prescripts, and that it's the City itself that has been making the prescripts puts to question everything. Every single thing Yan did was preordained by the “City,” from the fake prescripts Yan made, to other Proxies being tasked to follow his fake prescripts, to possibly even the random cruel tasks given to the citizens. All just to get Yan here and further the “Will of The City,” and that right there is why it's my favorite. The existential dread that everything you do is meaningless and everything you do is designed to further the goal of something incomprehensible. I would say I want to know more about the Index but that would honestly take away from that feeling of inevitability it has. That its dream or end goal is both beyond comprehension but also fated to be. I think the Index is my favorite take on cosmic horror PM has done, and in my eyes I don’t see it being topped any time soon. (As in PM making a superior cosmic horror story)
I feel you, it's one of my favorite pieces of horror in the entire series. When I realized the scale of it I was just filled with pure dread. They just dropped this huge cosmic horror on us and left us to sit with that :') love the city that I live in
Honestly it is still insane to me how amazing project moon manages to be even when their stories are sometimes openly inspired by other media Live town is pretty much inspired by stephan king novel 'long jaunt' which has the same premise on how teleporting works And the index core principle is based on a 2000s movie about hitmen choosing targets based on a weaving machine that predicts the future
45:00 I always thought it was fairly straightforward that Wayward Passenger came into existence after everyone started to get freaked out by the rumors of people disappearing from the train (aka Ruina), and isn't actually a passenger that got "lost" between dimensions. (And that they're the real reason Limbus Company got hired by W. Corp.)
On censored, Runia has some notes from former Lobcorp emplyees that used to work for the previous Lcorp talking about how censored looks strickingly similar to the smoke monster(what Roland turns into in his battle), with them even asking why it's at Lobcorp. With evrything that lobcorp exerpt about said about censored being seeing in the smoke monster's gameplay, even the bady censoreds
The insane side of my mind just can't help but smile and admire Project Moon for how beautifully creative and horrific the stuff in they've made is. Like, I use to think that my mind was twisted for some of the stuff that it'd come up with but now, I think what I've thought of is child's play comparatively. At best I'd say I'm an apprentice to an apprentice.
I always liked the theory that Censored is actually the singularity from the old L-corp. It's not hidden from the manager for being "too scary" or anything, it's because seeing it would remind X of the Smoke War and/or unlock A's memories.
... interestingly enough, that would make it 2 abnos left from the previous L. Corp. While Censored is a probably a smaller part survived from the Thing Roland saw at the Smoke War, the Silent Orchestra is said to be the previous manager of the L. Corp. That may imply many different things from how Ayin tortured previous manager for the experimentations with Kogito to what that previous manager even was like as a person. Grim stuff on part with PM, of course.
23:00 The reason is that, L corp hired everyone even backstreets residents, without ANY need for qualifications other than the ability to sign the employment request, because lobcorp doesn't need scientists or anyone of any legitimate skill they need mentally unstable individuals who produce the right interactions from the abnormalities to produce energy. Imagine your mr joe shmoe, you live in the backstreets and your your quite literally shitty job has equally and then one day a miracle happens you suddentlyget hired by lcorp and as a result and now you and your family get to live in a nexs and get a salary that puts 80% of other feathers to different corps to shame, and all you have to do is "work on abnormalities or fill out paperwork" without fully understanding the true concequences. and the worst part of it all other wings are pretty similar in likelihood to utterly break and dispose of you for profit
i never played ruina but i know of love town and just having it be explained to me, then to watch a sibling play through it .. stuff like that will always be so haunting. i usually don't do well with horror/body horror but PM does it in such a tasteful way. i'm only a limbus player and ngl, i'm still bracing myself for when they bring that haunting energy to limbus since nothing in limbus has been as bad as stuff that's happened in lobcorp or ruina ..
OKAY! Wanna know a fun interpretation of The Juant. There are 2 famous lines in there being "It's eternity in there" and what I'm gunna focus on "It's longer than you think" you could take that at face value, it's longer than you think it is but the much more haunting interpretation is that the time the juant takes is literally longer than the time it takes to think every thought the human mind can come up with
I love how they implied in the newer side canto that whenever you're retired you just get ejected from the train into the void and become a wayward passenger (dead)
The mention of an open world, or something close to such, Project Moon game set in that world is just something I don't think I thought of before and now I want that type of game now that I think on it. It'd be very fun and so forth!
I really do yearn for the horror aspect to make a bigger return in future project moon works. Whether that be in new canto's (holding out hope for Ryoshu's) or in a new book/game, the setting is brimming with potential. It's nice to go back and take a critical look on where the series has its roots. (I can be your cowboy fixer)
I'll be honest, I'm a pmoon fanboy at this point so this was all just me reminiscing about stories I already knew, but man. Still love everything about these games. I will concede that Limbus feels more lighthearted, but I think it fits. Lob Corp and Ruina sometimes felt exhausting with how much they could pile on in terms of sad topics, horror, or trauma, and it feels nice to have very human Sinners start trying to make better of a situation they KNOW can't end well. Without getting into individual spoilers of most of the cantos, I think their current recipe of "develop the character by having them go through the five stages of grief" is working out pretty well, likely due to each sinners' wildly differing personalities. But, hey, I'm also the one who got into Limbus first and then went back to fill in the gaps with Lob Corp and Ruina, so I might be a bit biased. Great video, always love gushing about Love Town.
I think A great and terrifying idea for a character in the city is a character that has given up their morality to thrive in the city and live the best life they can. a perfectly selfish pragmatist that will do and use anything and anyone to live a better life. A character that has figuratively become a monster to thrive from the monstrous society.
@@anusaukko6792 And also Stephanne. K Corp Executive Director. She genuinely wanted to help people. And was as uncruel as she could be when your products are tears.
P.T. was a glorified demo and proof of concept and it's the single greatest horror experience I have ever encountered in media period. Dropping that project and never completing it was a huge mistake, though I struggle to imagine how they would have managed to make a full length AAA game while maintaining that quality, so maybe it's a blessing that it stopped where it did.
I'm not the biggest Jordan Peele fan, but I am a massive Kojima Soyboy. So you can bet that I'm excited to see what that project they're working on together is. Kojima can do horror GOOD
I think limbus also has some good horror too, but people tend to overlook it. Outside of canto 1 and 5, almost entirety of canto 3 is pretty grotesque, la mancha land is literally creepy pasta, some paranormal park which hypnotyse people for a few hours and then disappears, t corp is evil capitalism done to the absurd, gnomes make gifts out of people because they hate them. Limbus is also filled with horrors but it's now not the main focus of the game
One theory I’ve seen guess that censored was likely some amalgamation similar in appearance to the smoke war’s horrors. Or at least, something that would specifically trigger ayin’s ptsd
Before my yapping I would like to say that Hod is my beloved. I longer I watched your video it became clear that this is creaming pm. But anyway, Rpg maker games made me shat my pants when I was a kid. They made me a tougher man today, able to "face the fear" and conquer many hardship. So thank you, your random video in my feed. I was just procrastinating my studies.
Me unintentionally spoiling love town for myself has ruined its horror for me GOD DAMN OLD ME!!!! Also shoutouts to Blue Star for making me realize how distressing the idea of a being gaslighting you into thinking its some sort of Savior is and getting you to end yourself really is
Who says its gaslighting you? What if it really IS better over there, and we're suffering for nothing by not jumping in? That's part of the horror, the unknown.
W-corp also could sell so much of the footage from their carriages to K-corp to bolster their Singularity production, but the whole "no one should ever know about it" deal is kinda putting a damper on it.
Yep! I don't have the post on me, but I went into a deep dive laying out all the information. It has a LOT of similarities to the one witnessed by Roland during the Smoke War, which we ourselves see during his 2nd Stage. CENSORED, much like how the Birds came from The Head, Bloodbath from Carmen, One Sin from Ayin, etc, was born from the collective unconcious of the City Dwellers, of the survivors of the Smoke War who, even after having their memories wiped, even still could not truly forget the horrors. They both consume humans, the faces and bodies of their victims protruding from their body as empty husks, alongside numerous tentacles (both of which are the 'tentacles' of Censored), and eventually released as a byproduct (aka the 'children' of Censored). The reason I say inspired and not literal is that Censored is far too small, and it doesn't produce Smoke, instead Enkalphin like the others. Plus the original Singularity would've been killed or taken most to 'end' the Smoke War, as happens with all Singularities that become public knowledge.
@mikebaneofntrguardianofwho5396 I mean... canonically all Abnos come from the human subconscious. That's why so many are based on fairy tales or myths. Bloodbath is directly called out to be based off the trauma from Carmen's death, seeing her lifeless body in the bath. The Birds... well, you have the disciplining Punishing Bird (C Corp/Claws), the all seeing Big Bird (B Corp/Beholders), and the Arbitering Judgement Bird (A Corp/Arbiters), who protect their forest and its inhabitants (The City), but due to paranoia, corruption, and who knows what else, they fuse into a single entity, a monster, the Appocalypse Bird (The Head, which formed to, well, protect the City from the Appocalypse that occured to the rest of humanity). There are others too. Way way back in L Corp, after reaching Hokma, I realized his gimmick was directly ripped from the Price of Silence, and realized there were also ones tied to the Sephirah too. It's never directly stated, but LoR soft confirmed it because these Abnos were the first ones you fight on their floor. Scorched Girl - Elijah (Two girls who saw hope in the flames and accidentally set themselves alight, dying slowly and painfully. Elijah's was via Enkephalin though) Forsaken Murderer - Gabriel (The most obvious parallel in my opinion, especially when you read their stories side by side.) Shy Look Today - Michelle Fragment of the Universe - Giovanni (I don't actually know this one. My theory was actually around Porcubus, but apparently I was wrong) Queen of Hatred - Lisa (The entire thing with Enoch's death and Lisa's Hatred for Carmen, resulting in the latter's death is... well. Yeah. The Abno's story ties more into Carmen's mentality at that moment, but it's appearance and behaviour is very much based off Lisa's. The other Magical Girls also represent Lisa's other traumas in regards to the event. Especially the Servant of Wrath's story) Red Riding Hooded Mercenary - Kali (A Mercenary called the Red Mist, whos entire life has devolved into the hunting and abuse of Monsters? Another pretty obvious correlation) Scarecrow Searching for Wisdom/The Oz gang - Daniel (It's story mirrors his journey after meeting Carmen (Osma) and joining the Facility. The others seem to moreso represent his time after her passing, when Ayin first took over ('The Adult who lies'), the Warm-Hearted Woodsman pretty clearly an analogy to his body as Chesed, Fraidy Cat being his fear and submission towards Angela, Binah, and Kali, and then the Road Home being his rebellion against them and Ayin.) The Birds - Garion (Again, she was an Arbiter for the Head, so...) The Price of Silence - Benjamin (Besides his Meltdown literally using its mechanics, the name of it comes from how he acted in regards to Ayin's plan, and Angela having to kill him, the one she cared about the most, to prevent him from telling X the truth. Quite literally, the 'Price for his Silence') Going into more uncertain territory: Plague Doctor/White Night: Distortion Carmen/Adam - A figure that offers you safety and solace, giving you their blessing, but in the end, that Blessing binds you like a curse, and turns you into a monster (aka how the distortion phenomenon works.) One Sin and a Hundred Good Deeds - Ayin. Not only is its name a reference to his entire justification during the events of the game, him trapping everyone in the endless Cycle to ensure the plan succeeds, but just like how One Sin purifies White Night, Ayin enters and purifies the light, preventing the Distortion Phenomenon from taking root (As seen during Ending C. The Light without Ayin's sacrifice, and thus only Carmen's will, causes everyone in the City to distort.) Express Train to Hell - W-Corp Trains. 1.76MHz - Smoke War. In its description it mentions explosions, screams, cries for help, and then smoke emanating from the radio despite it not being broken, with speculation being it reminds people of a specific day, a day of battle and war.
17:45 Don’t worry, we are getting an Intervalo in Limbus dedicated to the sweepers before Canto XIII. Hong Lu is going to have the ultimate experience to tell his family about when he gets back to them. Very few things beats surviving a Sweeper Onslaught.
I think CENSORED supposed to represent the cognition injection process at L corp. given that it's a way to create adnomalities from the well and also the fact that the subjects have to put on blindfolds on so that they wont see each other's appearance given that is say it was beyond comprehension.
25:15 fun note, it wasn't actually a ret-con or anything, the great lake actually gets mentioned in the true ending of lobotomy corp, during the white nights and dark days scene!
Incredibly funny that by making [CENSORED] into a jab towards SCP and it's data obfuscating tropes. They made it into an almost perfect copy of a specific SCP that plays with that trope by having a Censored version of the article, and an Uncensored one. With the Uncensored one going into great detail about it's weird anatomy, and how it uses humans to "reproduce"
In the latest Canto there is a mention of "the Nebula" in the outskirts. This being mentioned once as a big scary outskirts thing has actually had me going insane. I want to know what it is and why I should fear it, but then the whales, the weird Christmas stuff from THAT Canto interlude... The Outskirts is already amazing horror, even better as the "Black bird gang" came from it too!
He's one of my favourite guests as a whole, so I'll take any chance to slot him in. Also pyscho masochists in the backstreets scary oooooh and all that jazz
Im actually more interested in Project Moon as a whole........ to write Setting and Characters in this ton.......you must have truly experience things in your life
I love how much horror there is in this series, even if the focus has gone onto the back burner a bit. One of my favorite underrated horror events is from the scrapped Limbus Mirror Dungeon Event to level up your sinners. When you use it on a sinner, the machine’s keypad says “loud audio detected, exposure to this for a long period of time can result in hearing damage” the implication being that the procedure is so painful, your characters are screaming in agony loud enough to trigger the “loud noise” sensor on the machine
Warp perfectly represented one of my fear, something that happens to me however I can't remember it, which really made me shudder for moments of my life.
Ive never seen another pmoon fan agree with me on this, but the idea of warp trains being scary and evil never compelled me, it's like seeing the parasites in our bodies under a microscope, kinda gross, but why be scared of it if everyone comes out in the end.
Eileen turned some other guy into gear on screen. But her father IS a gear. The big one on her head, to be precise. Her father was murdered by Black Silence when he was trashing city for any clue on Pianist, so Eileen, beign good girl, turned him in gear. It shown that she can "talk" to gears on her head (still not sure if it is true ore she even more insane than she appears). Judging by the fact that the guy she turned warned her about Full-stop office attack the turn-man-to-gear machine either make him obedient and/or erased him as person (i dont believe in it tho, don't think she would mindwipe her own father) or he actually stil concious. but fine beign gear.
Yk whats crazier about Censored? Its not even an abnormality born from the Well and Lob Corps Cogito, its an Original being (Since its classification is O-03-89, the O stands for "Original Being) meaning it has existed even before Lobotomy Corp started
22:50 The reason they call the Corporation “Lobotomy Corporation” is actually for two reasons (spoilers ahead for both Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina): The first reason is a bit on the nose, being that they took over and overthrew the old L Corp. in the Smoke War. The old L Corp. was an energy company, too, but they produced massive amounts of smoke pollution which made the surrounding area miserable. And of course… Lobotomy starts with “L”. Simple enough. The second reason has to do with their Corporation’s Singularity, which would be Carmen’s nervous system. Her Seed of Light project wanted to study Cogito and its effects in drawing out ideas, concepts, emotions, etc. in the form of Abnormalities from the human mind. However, this was usually lethal. It’s after learning Carmen’s brain produced seemingly infinite amounts of Cogito to generate these Abnormalities that the so called “Bucket” Binah mentions was formed, and thus, the old Smoke War creature Singularity from old L Corp. is replaced by the Bucket, Lobotomy Corporation’s new Singularity. Also of course, they’re still an energy company because the Abnormalities they extract from the Bucket can generate Enkephalin, the energy needed for Lobotomy Corporation to work. And as seen in Limbus, you ideally need a living creature to produce Enkephalin. Coincidentally, Abnormalities possess a sense of “humanity” since they are born from human conscience, and they cannot die, instead reverting to an egg form, making them the perfect way to farm “infinite” Enkephalin boxes. The above also explains Lobotomy Corporation’s logo: they are quite literally probing the human mind for Abnormalities and using those Abnormalities to generate their Enkephalin boxes. Basically a metaphorical (or perhaps real?) lobotomy.
33:45 it's more like the capacity to package all things (sorta like the fairy) to the point it can package time and space itself so they can use it to limit the day of someone (ex: poor people with only the utmost minimum that is 8 hours a day under t corp policy ) by packing a portion of their time and then release even more to the richer one's
Goddamn it, first up, longtime PM fan here, but uh, when going through the W corp section nearing the end I had the thought "oh yeah, what was the funky teleporting existential horror story" and spent a good five minutes looking it up, only to unpause and immediately have you talk about The Jaunt...
41:44 Also, i think that when Rain says to Olga "Just don't turn yourself into an arse like last time" as they are about to board WARP train, it can be understood by looking at this image that even this quote can be interpreteted in a more literal way, with knowing the context.
22:50, I have always thought it was because of the AI Benjamin and Ayin created. They were created from brainmaps of their dead colleagues, as such I believe it was called that due to Ayin's Horror and Determination to bring Carmen's wish to fruition. Additionally Cogito and Enkephalin are found naturally in humans in the brain and spinal cord according to Faust in Limbus Company, while fuelling the Bus.
Censored might be a reference to a very specific SCP that is a little girl who the SCP foundation has to routinely do... Something to. Employees working there have to routinely get their memories wiped and circled out due to how traumatic the process is. The entire thing hinges on the ambiguity of what is actually being done to her and the idea that if this is not done then something much worse will happem
when you ask about the scariest game I've ever seen, I say fear & hunger (both of them), Limbus company even has some strong visual references to these games cuz of how intensely horrid they are
From what I heard, censored could just be a representation of what Old L Corp's Singularity is (Refer to Black Silence Phase 2). I believe its mentioned in the observation logs that old L Corp employees are now working for Lobo Corp and they mention that it looks very similar... iirc they mention 'Is that? No it cant be'
Imagine, a Horror Game from project moon... anything would work out, Backstreet life simulator, Survival horror set in the Outskirts, You do not recognize the bodies in the lake
To this day, the whole train thing is the single most harrowing thing I've witnessed in all of fiction. I wasn't... scared per se (though I am a little wary of subways now). I was just... I felt so thoroughly violated, mentally. The gore, the isolation, the manipulation, the mental regression, the ironic veneer of happiness... And then the fact that this was the first encounter to get a vocal track- they wanted to make sure you don't forget this encounter. And I was so offended because of it. I have been fortunate enough to grow up without any notable trauma, so I can't claim to be triggered by anything. But that sequence... was about as close as I've come. I never want to see it again.
44:25 in the Purple Tear's book in Library of Ruina she states: "Its hard to come up with a definition and explination for a power that naturally emerged, you see?" then goes on to explain her ability to travel throught spacetime and "see a myriad of possibilities". As such I also dont think WARP corp and her are related, at least, not directly. You can also see this in the tools WARP corp Clean Up crew uses, they generate Charge by tearing the dimension apart and then use Charge for various effects. The Purple Tear does not use Charge at all
Imagine Pmoon would remake lobotomy corporation and add no-cognitition filter mode with manager's sanity bar
Holy shit don't give them ideas i remember being stuck at binah for months, my irl sanity was already fading no need to add insult to injury
The idea of CENSORED just being a softlock mechanic is hilarious.
Or a SCP containment breach style game. Though I feel that would be hard considering some of the shit abnos do when out of containment. Like I don't think randomly dying from facility wide damage would be fun.
If I have to manage my own Sanity bar alongside Day 49 I'm actually going to turn into an Abnormality
I want those in lobotomy corporation 2
The real horror about Project Moon is how they're Korean company and this entire series is commentary on Korean society
and its not too far fetched from korea..
except for the abnormalities and singularites, we dont have them here
100%, nope, we dont, no cap
@@poweroff1225 the abnormalities is Korean people
Ignorance is a bliss. :)
That's exactly what the abnormalities want you to think. @@poweroff1225
One theory as to why the passengers get to experience 1000s of years on a Warp train:
W-corp is not bottling 'Time' to sell to T-Corp but instead 'Experience'. Sure they erase the memory of everything at the end of the journey, but it still happened. First class tickets are so expensive because without experiencing the journey, they are paying the actual cost of running a trans-dimensional train, the economy class is just paying in the form of centuries of monetizable pain and suffering. (With a some extra for profit!)
The City seems to work on a level where 'Ideas' are as fundamental to how reality works as the speed of light or the gravitational constant. So a question like, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" is *VERY* much at play in the technology of the setting.
With how PM adapted stephen King's "The Jaunt," I'd say the suffering of 'beings' is indeed what fuels most singularities in the city.
K corp, W corp, Lob Corp, and R corp have shown examples of why it is the main component of their corporations.
I really like this theory, headcanon accepted
Would they be selling the experiences to N Corp and the pain to K Corp?
theyre absolutely collecting time to sell to tcorp what this is just what happens in the game
wcorp uses their wormhole singularity to send a train into a alternate dimension where hundreds of thousands year there is barely seconds here, so they can place them in time moratorium to collect their future time and locking them in the present
and when the trip is done, wcorp staff ravel up the inevitable corpses to their seats, then reset them with the weird machine in the chairs that stores a savestate at the start
theres no experience collection, we'd probably hear of that by now, and i dont think n corp has any scarcity of traumatic experiences or reason to have countless versions of similar ones, and besides i dont think wcorp would be willing to share their secret with ncorp just so they can make a couple torture devices with no longterm deal
@@desadograisedrobot515 i dont think wcorp would want to share their secret with kcorp, especially since its very unlikely wcorp knows kcorps secret, and ncorp probably has tons of thousands-year-long traumatic experiences they can use for whatever purposes, no real reason to strike a deal with wcorp for a new variety of it
"I'm not saying the meat pies are made with human flesh, but we are what we eat."
An interesting fact about why the sweepers are missing from limbus company, that delves more into the heirarchy of the city. The reason why the sinners are unaffected by the sweepers is because Limbus Company filed for a permit that designates mephi(the bus) as a city approved residence. Which is why the sweepers do not come after the sinners every night.
wait where was that said
@blehh_mae i dont remember where it was exactly mentioned, and can't go through stories to check cause I'm at work. But I think it was around TKT or in Dante's notes, I'll check when I get home to make sure though.
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Limbus company comes to the conclusion that instead of emotions changing with time, peoples emotions are what drive the passage of time. This would explain why Warp Trains keep only first class in cryo.
what would be better, endure pain for thousand of years just to move a train from A to B or get strapped to a tickling table for thousand of years to move a train from A to B
@@anthonynguyen2661the Latter option would be preferable but, that would need an employee to be inside the train just to strap all of the people to the tickling machine and monitor it so noone escapes. It's not a viable option because God forbid paying that certain employee, they're already grifting the passengers by not paying them for unknowingly running the train, why the fuck would they spend money for the tickling table idea when it would lower profits.
@@lightningtiger090 automated tickling chair
@@anthonynguyen2661 still more expensive than not having the automated tickling chair, and they're not gonna remember it anyway so it's not really that much of a priority to not torture the passengers.
@alberttrita5858 wdym " not torture " ? tickling is torture people can die from this and i believe tickling even bring out more emotion power than pain that is why i bring up the comparison in the first place.
9:02 I’d like to mention that in Lob corp, you’re playing as a manager who’s viewing this only as much as Angela lets you. In Ruina, this limit is undone, and you fight this thing in its “ideal environment,” up close, with detail. There are puddles of partially melted, screaming people on the ground, screaming through partially destroyed lungs and throats. This thing doesn’t just “consume” bodies, it absorbs them with whatever corrosive aspect of its body too, and often times those who are caught in its main body or a sizable chunk of the corrosive substance are stuck, wailing in agony until it fully consumes them.
Love Town is some of the greatest horror I've seen in any game I've played. It is truly, truly haunting.
Not only that, but the love tragedy it happens. For the specific scenario of Love Town and Tomerry, it is f'd up how time literally led to two lovers forgetting about their individuality and their love for each other, for the purpose of fighting for a imaginary town and their "parents". Merry's guilt also comes into play, because she wanted Tommy to go on a Warp train with her for their vacation, and when she wanted to go under surgery with him, she tried to induce Tommy to do it. And at the end, Merry is all alone when you burst Tommy's head in their reception, and alone forever, since W corp's singularity can't bring them back anymore
It's so good. it's what took Ruina from "this is great" to "this is absolute peak fiction" for me
Hearing that song will actually make me cry please
I loved love town, ironically enough. Though I loved it so much more after reading stephan kings 'long jaunt' I'm 100% sure they are inspired by it and I love how they handled it
'Greatest love story uv ever seen'
...at least the longest.
I appreciate not dissing Limbus, especially that even though i am an old-timer when it comes to PM games, i personally appreciate a lot that Limbus has in store. However, Limbus "horror" stems more from psychological aspect, focuses on burden, helplessness and flaws of human mind rather than largescale terror of the City that Library gave us in detail.
With this, heads up on Canto 1 - as PM did well to remind player that it's not even the war itself that the section was focusing on. The nightmare-ish development of Smoke War vision catalyzes with each loop, showing that what REALLY weights on Gregor's shoulders isn't the memory of the battlefield, as much as the expectations piled up on him by everyone around; demanding him to live up to ambitions of his mother and be leader for the soldiers fighting a losing war. Forever scarred by this, Gregor's mentally blocked from actions that may be tied to people's expectations: not wanting to stay in view, backing off from TKT investigation just by feeling someone else's eyes on him, and even from gameplay point of view, working better in backline or on the bench rather than put as a main clasher.
That being said, he does want to not be sentenced to life as bottomfeeder, desiting to feel proud again, but finding no way to achieve that. Little scenes where he's acting in spotlight, always end in embarassment, causing him to crawl back to comfort zone. Funny when seeing it once, tragic when you think about it.
Exactly the line you said about taking comedy and then turnign it into horror in retrospective. In the frigging chicken episode, he was, for once, acting proud - happy to cook because he felt that if there is ONE thing he felt he's good at, was cooking. And he's subsequently CRUSHED by words decribing his honest efforts as absolute garbage.
And limbus is full of little details like this, making my schizo brain DELIGHT in re-experiencing it in retrospective.
under this context Smee Gregor is living his best.
@@anthonynguyen2661 A parasite living in a hole in middle of nowhere; exploiting those gullible and those weak, yet still forced under boot of someone else, doing someone else's business - forever blocked from climbing up.
@@JannetFenix to be able to exploit meaning to be able to be above someone else, that is way better than other IDs, better than pure bottom feeder. Im not saying he living the best but is living *his best* he pretty confident about it too in his ID story .
For Limbus a lot of people got thrown off cause of the gacha which half the time you dont need to use it cause the ego shards are literally right there Canto 1 all the way to the current one plus the tie in events i love LOR and L Corp but theres much more horrifying elements in limbus be it not in your face all the time but its still there plus WalpurgisNacht is the best of both worlds too so I agree with what you said
@robinbrando8662 I like writting in limbus because a lot of dsrkness in the characters seeps out naturally - so, so reminiscent of Lobotomy corp's slow burn, with which sephira would reveal their scars in seemingly casual conversations.
And it got to be said, sinners are more fleshed out as flawed humans, with multilevel of those scars.
I still love the idea that Iori was the one who snuck onto the WARP Train and trained everyone. She's the kind of person who would (as God knows how many apprentices she has) and the existence of her ability to teleport definitely makes it much easier for her to sneak on or maybe somehow escape the time effects of the train.
That's actually really interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Personally I like the idea that it was something that happened like a couple of decades ago, we don't know how long City has been around afaik but I like the idea of proper history being established in universe.
Cool theory though I like it
Roland also said he took a warp train a few times which I think is also another possibility
@@Teo-ey9qg roland was never actually a color tho
@@x-3688 they didn't know if they were a colour or not they just assumed and since Roland is pretty powerful we can assume that he's the fixer they were talking about
@@DinoDave935 apparently more than 200 years if the amount of time that Don Quixote's siblings have gone without proper sustainence is anything to believe.
Apparently nobody else felt the need or saw the need to correct it, I do though. 46:35 We do not see Eileen gearify her father, no she exposits to the poor sap that he's going to become a thought gear like her dear father.
I must've read it wrong, thank you for the correction!
The city is just Victorian era England but you play as an orphan.
ok Heathcliff
Victorian South Korea
@@steamtasticvagabond474 Japanese occupation Korea
A thing to remember: In the Limbus Company Intervallo IV-II: Murder on the WARP Express, the LCB was lucky to be backed up with a First Class ticket for a W Corp. train, or else, we could literally get to see Dante wilfully detonating himself because of the insanity.
Wouldn’t he still just go back to normal after the reset thing anyway?
themself*
@@OrnamentalShrubbHis Rewind only works for the 12 sinners.
@@lightningtiger090 nah I mean like at the end of the train when w corp singularity reverts passengers back to normal
@@OrnamentalShrubb You got a point. The Company is not gonna like that they lost the Golden Bough inside Dante's Head though since we don't know if the Bough can get affected by W Corp's reset.... Might explain why they got First Class in the first place...
L corps singularity is to manifest things from the human mind remember? Digging into someone's mind to pull something out? Makes sense that they're named Lobotomy Corporation...
" _Ayin did nothing wrong._ "
Also the procedure practically kills your brain and soul so it's practically a lobotomy because they unironically probe your mind, you become a mindless empty husk and then get put down for your own good assuming you didn't die immediately in the procedure. Which mirrors how in real life, lobotomies would more often than not kill the actual person and leave only a shadow of their former selves moving around their body.
The revelation of the prescripts is one piece of understated horror that filled me with complete and total dread. Not as shocking or inherently memorable as love town, but every time I think about it I just distort a little bit more about the eldritch horror of the index
Yan's feeling of helplessness, when all of his attempts at proving his free will end up failing and showing he's just a slave to the Will.
"Oh yeah, the Will knew you were forging Prescripts, but it told us to follow your fake ones because it's still part of its plan" Holy shit
What makes it work over all-knowing characters like Aizen from Bleach (and honestly, Iori in PMoon too) is that the Will is this unknowable and abstract entity. You can't even be sure whether it exists or not. Either there's a higher being playing puppetmaster with all the denizens of the city, or everyone is following completely random and pointless orders.
In either case, free will does not exist.
@@lavos333 and it's not even the bottom of the things. Your incentive to follow the prescript is mostly "or else then someone's prescript will be to kill you", which, in turn, is completely grounded in another person's motivation to follow thaat prescript, with exactly the same incentive. This vicious circle (or, actually, a ball of vicious yarn, because it is way more than one loop) is sustainable only by its participants' compliance, which is not something about "free will", as every and each participant has a full right to refuse and defy the prescript (and face the consequences, however, if every single participant simultaneously decides to defy the current and all further prescripts, no consequences will happen), but chooses to comply. This is a ridiculous concept if described that way, but it becomes truly dreadful when I add that this, albeit, usually not that exaggerated and lethal, is a very common human behavior. This is how social norms are enforced, introduced and propagated. This is how a totalitarian regime stabilises itself. This is a completely arbitrary social system that only works because the majority of the people choose to participate in it. Except, the "punisher" in that system is akin to a Kapo in a death camp: they are forced to do their grueling work too, except their work is punishing. The Prescripts anonymize that threat of punishment, making you a punisher and the (potential) punished simultaneously, thus looping that vicious ball of oppression yarn back to itself. The Index is, if we strip its essence to bare bones, a society that operates on Prisoner's Dilemma. And so are, at times, we, because the subjects do not refuse to comply, and their punishers do not refuse to punish.
Outskirts has a TON of potential for deep dwelled horrors.
Coming from how the city and the outside are both depicted in the form of "Stars, Nebulas, and Galaxies".
First, we got giants like the christmas gremlins from canto 4.5, the Cosmic horrors known as the whales, and even the possibility of human "A.I." usurping domination outside.
Some of these things are really an impurity for the city as it threatens the overwhelming hiearchy that makes it function as a "galaxy."
My guess is that Blue Star is 100% based on something related to the outskirts but in Abno form. We keep hearing about stars, celestials and other stuff way beyond the outskirts.
The Head and the city might be surrounded at all times by things on par or worse than Aleph-tier abnos, and the Pianist did a number on the city despite being a "beyond WAW but not ALEPH" as stated by ProjectMoon.
So it's clear the Head might be able to deal with it, but the people of the city won't. Which is exactly the prophecy of the Apocalypse Bird abno as once the Head steps into action one day to attempt to protect the City by tightening the grip around, it will save the city, but destroy everyone in the process, everyone still surviving by then will leave or die, physically or mentally or both, and the only thing left will be the Head and a barren city. And then not long after, in the new world beyond...
*"• Rumours say that there's a terrible government in the black city where nobody lives."*
That might be the endgame.
Shit, even the Pallid Whale was mentioned to be scared, coward or some sort of potential prey even to things inside the River/Outskirts if memory serves right. Imagine that. A beast that can swallow buildings whole, whose mighty tail breaks cloud coverage...hiding, quiet in the unknown to not let the Things that lurk within find it.
limbus actually explains why the T corp device is actually there
"" Yi Sang noted that, from W Corp.’s cooperation with T Corp., it is likely that they need ‘time’ to operate their trains. Moreover, the T Corp. Chief Executive Director said that emotions don’t change with time; instead, time changes with emotions. It was something to that effect, at least.
- Based on what everyone has said, we came to a pretty plausible conclusion. That a state of emotionally transformative consciousness in an effective infinity of time is what moves, or powers, the WARP trains. Either that, or that state of consciousness is precisely what WARP trains are built to induce. Some Sinners and I applauded Yi Sang and Heathcliff for this hypothesis."
in short the usage of T corp is the engine for the warp trains and they use the passengers emotions for fuel. we also know in the Intervallo that w corp transports cargo from point a to point b meaning that they exploit people's suffering to actually transport it since the cargo doesn't actually fuel the train with emotions.
4:55 "I'm sure they're working somewhere else with a better salary"
"WELCOME TO THE LIBRARY"
"Oh fuck me"
how was the fall
Without spoiling much, all I heard was there this Roland guy and he likes sandwiches and dose a Vergil Judmgent cut I was sold and not disappointed.
But Roland _Lost_ the _Judgment_ ...
@@catomax26jeev Perhaps maybe if he felt Like A Dragon he could have saved her...
Love Town obsessed yapping disguised as a Project Moon's Horror elements video and i'm all for it. You go king
I LOVE WARP GRAHHHH!!!!!!
37:08 another thing I like about the W corp. logo is that its design symbolizes how the WARP trains actually work: the straight line through the center being how "quickly" the train arrives at its destination, while the "W" moves up and down taking much longer to reach the same point; also, the straight line covers up the W, symbolizing the hidden truth of the trains travel time
PM universe is bassicaly "What if the Chaos Insurgency controlled the world and the SCP Foundation was like: Fuck it. We ball and try to bring HOPE to the world which is DEFINETELY not going to make everything worse 💀"
Ayin's only mistake in his plan was giving Angela free will at the end, he didn't dictate her to shut down or lock herself away or whatever he COULD'VE done. Speaking from a logical standpoint btw, not ethical or moral, so I won't mention the torture aspects of the plan etc. All he had to do was make sure Angela didn't interfere with the conclusion of the play, and the Light would've spread and slowly healed the City over an unknown course of time. Unless Ayin is actually the most clever character in the verse and somehow gigabrained it so that he knew Angela would release her own light at the very end and that distortions were needed or whatever, but that's a bit too much cope for me.
@anusaukko6792 Ayin is a geniues, but he is a broken one. It really was explained that angela was supposedly his coping method from Carmen but then he realized Angela was more like him(his dull and logical personality) which further causes him to despise her.
He only used her as a tool and made the plan after seperating himself, and I'd say his own creations is what led him to succeed and fail at the same time.
@@Kofhiliphus as yi sang once said.."Have you ever heard the word..Taxidermied genius?"
Personally I feel like that Ayin’s blunders start a lot earlier than that. Who in their right mind would find a random black goo and then just inject it into someone without running any tests? If they just did the tests and found oh cogito fucking kills people then Carmen would’ve never started trying to off herself.
@@Kofhiliphus I know all of this, I'm just saying that hindsight is 20/20 since original comment mentioned making things worse, which is a result of individual failings instead of an actual flaw in everything.
33:15 this is incorrect. The passengers did NOT leave this specific train, causing a huge scandal for W-Corp. It applies to every other train (except the canto6.5.2 one) though.
despite looking very funny the idea that the inhumans of the outskirts celebrate christmass by masscaring humans and gifting corpses to eachother because they hate humans so much that seeing one dead is like getting a puppy for them probably is very fucked up
I still don't like how cartoonish they look, it just curbs all staying power they could have had for me
@@DinoDave935 Well, if they didn’t appear how they did, how would they be able to deceive Don? They are designed to get humans to find them cute, so they can kill them more easily.
@@DinoDave935Im in the thick of it Everybody…………………………… knows
I think Limbus taking a comedic approach to the city fits a lot more for the characters we have at play, and also the story source since y’know “Dante’s Divine Comedy”, but it’s probably really gonna get dark like the past entries once we get into Ryoshu and Faust and Dante
@@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795 I mean we already kinda had a pseudo-successor to Love Town in the form of La Mancha Carnival
@ Not deprived enough I think
@@ericwijaya2119 200 years of suffering and hunger nah 10000 years of emptiness no 1million years of watching the same suffering happend again and again.
@@anthonynguyen2661well it kind of different type of suffering
Love town are a pain cause of waiting
Waiting for something to happen free you from never ending hell
While la manchaland is pain inflicted by hunger and thirst
Which more than just food but it is a happiness
Bloodfiend if they didn't drink blood they aren't unable to feel happiness
Unlike love town passengers they didn't lose their mind
They are still able to know what happens
@@tuppiee1752 Nay, bloodfiends don’t NEED blood to be happy, they need something to aspire to, where the baseline is blood consumption.
Love town was easily one of the best side stories, if not the best, that Pmoon ever made, especially cause of the existential dread you feel just watching it play out, I remember and I hate it so much cause of how uncomfortable it made me but I can't deny it's good and did it's job of being memorable
Honestly, having watched this video and re-appreciating every bit of horror in Lobcorp and Ruina, not gonna lie I gotta say Limbus is missing a little bit of that. Well, here's to hope that Hong Lu's canto will be the most messed up thing ever imagineable I guess!
I know that one is going to take long, but i feel like Faust could be unhinged asf
@@Wild-HuntHeathcliff I mean Faust made a deal with a demon in the OG novel soo
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i think faust ryoshu dante all got you covered with those
@@Sandbeard Hong Lu canto is next
i got to love town and just paused for like 30 minutes straight in awe
36:30 “It’s longer than you think.”
Edit: 54:25 white night is more of a anti-Christ. He is there for a false salvation while one sin and hundreds of good deeds is the actual jesus stand in for story, vanquishing the evil that white night spreads by the 12th apostle’s praying.
"When you see a cute, little bird, feel free to pet it."
I knew how the warp trains work and it is straight up hell and I will not deny it but I will still ride the train because the reason is simple you can do whatever the fuck you want in the warp train and get zero consequences in the real world as long as you’re willing to wait an extra thousand years or so
I suppose that is one upside. If someone really hates their job but happens to take the same train as their boss it could be something to look forward to without looking forward to
All you have to do is be the strongest person on the train and you could make up a dictatorship/monarchy system, or be like that one guy who trained all of the passengers to the point they put up a good fight against the W-Corp agents.
A Bloodfiend wrote this
@@laffeyguy shut.
Glad to have you back mate, i wish we got a little bit more horror nowadays, i love how pmoon writes it
Thank you! I've heard good things about how T-Corp is handled, but I'm still not interested in returning to Limbus rn so I can't comment on it.
@@DinoDave935 Tcorp is...Interesting, i wont say much on it so you can experience it by yourself, but i will say that we may be getting a Pcorp-focused intervallo soon...which i am very hopeful will delve into the horror aspect.
Either that, or we what i have been wanting since i started playing Sweeper-only ruina, we get limbus sweepers...cannot wait either way, but i need more sweeper love from pmoon
this really is a rabbit hole, i used to only know of lobotomy corp thinking it was just a factory management scp clone, 2 years later and now ive been sucked into the project moon storyline
I remember getting Mountain and Nothing There on the same day in my Lcorp playthrough. They were miserable, but somehow overtime they became nothing but goobers I want to keep as pets.
Love town is the whole reason i got into project moon. From the video i found it thru,i thought it was gonna talk about a dilf dating sim with eldritch elements.
Imagine my surprise when instead it talk about warp trains.
But was the most life changing video i ever watched,because it got me into limbus company.
*NERD SHIT ALERT* *I REPEAT THERE IS SOME NERD SHIT INCOMING* (Also LoR Spoilers)
My favorite Project Moon ~Haunting Horror~ is one that's surprisingly not widely discussed. Although it lacks the gore-y staple PM usually brings, the Index absolutely brings some of the most psychologically dreadful horror and city shattering revelations. Being given tasks known as prescripts that start out simple at first but can quickly ramp up to alarming or even impossible, and when you fail those tasks the people that were supposed to “protect” you from outside threats are once again tasked to punish you based on their prescript. Already a classic PM move of treating the lower class is if their lives are meaningless, but Yan’s story of putting an end to the seemingly random prescripts is even more horrifying in my eyes. To eventually get to the end of the chain of command just to find one person who is simply translating prescripts, and that it's the City itself that has been making the prescripts puts to question everything. Every single thing Yan did was preordained by the “City,” from the fake prescripts Yan made, to other Proxies being tasked to follow his fake prescripts, to possibly even the random cruel tasks given to the citizens. All just to get Yan here and further the “Will of The City,” and that right there is why it's my favorite. The existential dread that everything you do is meaningless and everything you do is designed to further the goal of something incomprehensible. I would say I want to know more about the Index but that would honestly take away from that feeling of inevitability it has. That its dream or end goal is both beyond comprehension but also fated to be. I think the Index is my favorite take on cosmic horror PM has done, and in my eyes I don’t see it being topped any time soon. (As in PM making a superior cosmic horror story)
I feel you, it's one of my favorite pieces of horror in the entire series. When I realized the scale of it I was just filled with pure dread. They just dropped this huge cosmic horror on us and left us to sit with that :') love the city that I live in
honestly surprised the index werent discussed here, but with so much in the games ig some stuff just had to be left out
Honestly it is still insane to me how amazing project moon manages to be even when their stories are sometimes openly inspired by other media
Live town is pretty much inspired by stephan king novel 'long jaunt' which has the same premise on how teleporting works
And the index core principle is based on a 2000s movie about hitmen choosing targets based on a weaving machine that predicts the future
45:00 I always thought it was fairly straightforward that Wayward Passenger came into existence after everyone started to get freaked out by the rumors of people disappearing from the train (aka Ruina), and isn't actually a passenger that got "lost" between dimensions. (And that they're the real reason Limbus Company got hired by W. Corp.)
On censored, Runia has some notes from former Lobcorp emplyees that used to work for the previous Lcorp talking about how censored looks strickingly similar to the smoke monster(what Roland turns into in his battle), with them even asking why it's at Lobcorp.
With evrything that lobcorp exerpt about said about censored being seeing in the smoke monster's gameplay, even the bady censoreds
i do like how it's implied censored probably is in some kind of pain at all times, considering you can't get a good work result with it
The insane side of my mind just can't help but smile and admire Project Moon for how beautifully creative and horrific the stuff in they've made is. Like, I use to think that my mind was twisted for some of the stuff that it'd come up with but now, I think what I've thought of is child's play comparatively. At best I'd say I'm an apprentice to an apprentice.
I always liked the theory that Censored is actually the singularity from the old L-corp. It's not hidden from the manager for being "too scary" or anything, it's because seeing it would remind X of the Smoke War and/or unlock A's memories.
... interestingly enough, that would make it 2 abnos left from the previous L. Corp.
While Censored is a probably a smaller part survived from the Thing Roland saw at the Smoke War, the Silent Orchestra is said to be the previous manager of the L. Corp.
That may imply many different things from how Ayin tortured previous manager for the experimentations with Kogito to what that previous manager even was like as a person. Grim stuff on part with PM, of course.
Another long awaited dino dace banger. Been slowly watching through this on my breaks at work and its been really fun :D
Thank You!!
23:00
The reason is that, L corp hired everyone even backstreets residents, without ANY need for qualifications other than the ability to sign the employment request, because lobcorp doesn't need scientists or anyone of any legitimate skill they need mentally unstable individuals who produce the right interactions from the abnormalities to produce energy.
Imagine your mr joe shmoe, you live in the backstreets and your your quite literally shitty job has equally and then one day a miracle happens you suddentlyget hired by lcorp and as a result and now you and your family get to live in a nexs and get a salary that puts 80% of other feathers to different corps to shame, and all you have to do is "work on abnormalities or fill out paperwork" without fully understanding the true concequences.
and the worst part of it all other wings are pretty similar in likelihood to utterly break and dispose of you for profit
i never played ruina but i know of love town and just having it be explained to me, then to watch a sibling play through it .. stuff like that will always be so haunting. i usually don't do well with horror/body horror but PM does it in such a tasteful way. i'm only a limbus player and ngl, i'm still bracing myself for when they bring that haunting energy to limbus since nothing in limbus has been as bad as stuff that's happened in lobcorp or ruina ..
OKAY! Wanna know a fun interpretation of The Juant. There are 2 famous lines in there being "It's eternity in there" and what I'm gunna focus on "It's longer than you think" you could take that at face value, it's longer than you think it is but the much more haunting interpretation is that the time the juant takes is literally longer than the time it takes to think every thought the human mind can come up with
I love how they implied in the newer side canto that whenever you're retired you just get ejected from the train into the void and become a wayward passenger (dead)
The mention of an open world, or something close to such, Project Moon game set in that world is just something I don't think I thought of before and now I want that type of game now that I think on it. It'd be very fun and so forth!
I really do yearn for the horror aspect to make a bigger return in future project moon works. Whether that be in new canto's (holding out hope for Ryoshu's) or in a new book/game, the setting is brimming with potential. It's nice to go back and take a critical look on where the series has its roots.
(I can be your cowboy fixer)
Unless your name is Gunman Clive I ain't interested sorry
I'll be honest, I'm a pmoon fanboy at this point so this was all just me reminiscing about stories I already knew, but man. Still love everything about these games.
I will concede that Limbus feels more lighthearted, but I think it fits. Lob Corp and Ruina sometimes felt exhausting with how much they could pile on in terms of sad topics, horror, or trauma, and it feels nice to have very human Sinners start trying to make better of a situation they KNOW can't end well. Without getting into individual spoilers of most of the cantos, I think their current recipe of "develop the character by having them go through the five stages of grief" is working out pretty well, likely due to each sinners' wildly differing personalities.
But, hey, I'm also the one who got into Limbus first and then went back to fill in the gaps with Lob Corp and Ruina, so I might be a bit biased.
Great video, always love gushing about Love Town.
I saw this cool theory that censored is the old L corp's smoke monster.
I think A great and terrifying idea for a character in the city is a character that has given up their morality to thrive in the city and live the best life they can. a perfectly selfish pragmatist that will do and use anything and anyone to live a better life. A character that has figuratively become a monster to thrive from the monstrous society.
So basically any Corp owner, besides Ayin?
@@anusaukko6792 And also Stephanne.
K Corp Executive Director.
She genuinely wanted to help people.
And was as uncruel as she could be when your products are tears.
what I mostly love about PM's stuff is the designs they made for both humans (robots? I don't know I just love Hod
P.T. was a glorified demo and proof of concept and it's the single greatest horror experience I have ever encountered in media period. Dropping that project and never completing it was a huge mistake, though I struggle to imagine how they would have managed to make a full length AAA game while maintaining that quality, so maybe it's a blessing that it stopped where it did.
I'm not the biggest Jordan Peele fan, but I am a massive Kojima Soyboy. So you can bet that I'm excited to see what that project they're working on together is. Kojima can do horror GOOD
I think limbus also has some good horror too, but people tend to overlook it. Outside of canto 1 and 5, almost entirety of canto 3 is pretty grotesque, la mancha land is literally creepy pasta, some paranormal park which hypnotyse people for a few hours and then disappears, t corp is evil capitalism done to the absurd, gnomes make gifts out of people because they hate them. Limbus is also filled with horrors but it's now not the main focus of the game
small correction
L-corp supplies R-corp with the specialized bullets they use
that's why they can do pale damage
0:29 I saw a full playthrough of demonophobia, you can't surprise me anymore
34:40 Limbus Company explains it, WARP Trains run on human suffering, woohoo!
Team woohoo!!!!!!!
One theory I’ve seen guess that censored was likely some amalgamation similar in appearance to the smoke war’s horrors. Or at least, something that would specifically trigger ayin’s ptsd
Hearing the DQMJ battle theme in the background gave me a smile. Nice video
Thank You! It always makes he happy to weed out a PM fan
Before my yapping I would like to say that Hod is my beloved.
I longer I watched your video it became clear that this is creaming pm. But anyway,
Rpg maker games made me shat my pants when I was a kid. They made me a tougher man today, able to "face the fear" and conquer many hardship. So thank you, your random video in my feed. I was just procrastinating my studies.
Me unintentionally spoiling love town for myself has ruined its horror for me GOD DAMN OLD ME!!!!
Also shoutouts to Blue Star for making me realize how distressing the idea of a being gaslighting you into thinking its some sort of Savior is and getting you to end yourself really is
Who says its gaslighting you? What if it really IS better over there, and we're suffering for nothing by not jumping in? That's part of the horror, the unknown.
@@anusaukko6792 Good point, thanks for more existential horror 👍
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W-corp also could sell so much of the footage from their carriages to K-corp to bolster their Singularity production, but the whole "no one should ever know about it" deal is kinda putting a damper on it.
Fairly sure [CENSORED] is canonically The Smoke Monster from the Smoke War, aka the creature the Old L Corp used for energy.
Yep! I don't have the post on me, but I went into a deep dive laying out all the information. It has a LOT of similarities to the one witnessed by Roland during the Smoke War, which we ourselves see during his 2nd Stage.
CENSORED, much like how the Birds came from The Head, Bloodbath from Carmen, One Sin from Ayin, etc, was born from the collective unconcious of the City Dwellers, of the survivors of the Smoke War who, even after having their memories wiped, even still could not truly forget the horrors.
They both consume humans, the faces and bodies of their victims protruding from their body as empty husks, alongside numerous tentacles (both of which are the 'tentacles' of Censored), and eventually released as a byproduct (aka the 'children' of Censored).
The reason I say inspired and not literal is that Censored is far too small, and it doesn't produce Smoke, instead Enkalphin like the others. Plus the original Singularity would've been killed or taken most to 'end' the Smoke War, as happens with all Singularities that become public knowledge.
Where did you get information about abno reference some character i want to see it
@mikebaneofntrguardianofwho5396 I mean... canonically all Abnos come from the human subconscious. That's why so many are based on fairy tales or myths.
Bloodbath is directly called out to be based off the trauma from Carmen's death, seeing her lifeless body in the bath.
The Birds... well, you have the disciplining Punishing Bird (C Corp/Claws), the all seeing Big Bird (B Corp/Beholders), and the Arbitering Judgement Bird (A Corp/Arbiters), who protect their forest and its inhabitants (The City), but due to paranoia, corruption, and who knows what else, they fuse into a single entity, a monster, the Appocalypse Bird (The Head, which formed to, well, protect the City from the Appocalypse that occured to the rest of humanity).
There are others too. Way way back in L Corp, after reaching Hokma, I realized his gimmick was directly ripped from the Price of Silence, and realized there were also ones tied to the Sephirah too. It's never directly stated, but LoR soft confirmed it because these Abnos were the first ones you fight on their floor.
Scorched Girl - Elijah (Two girls who saw hope in the flames and accidentally set themselves alight, dying slowly and painfully. Elijah's was via Enkephalin though)
Forsaken Murderer - Gabriel (The most obvious parallel in my opinion, especially when you read their stories side by side.)
Shy Look Today - Michelle
Fragment of the Universe - Giovanni (I don't actually know this one. My theory was actually around Porcubus, but apparently I was wrong)
Queen of Hatred - Lisa (The entire thing with Enoch's death and Lisa's Hatred for Carmen, resulting in the latter's death is... well. Yeah. The Abno's story ties more into Carmen's mentality at that moment, but it's appearance and behaviour is very much based off Lisa's. The other Magical Girls also represent Lisa's other traumas in regards to the event. Especially the Servant of Wrath's story)
Red Riding Hooded Mercenary - Kali (A Mercenary called the Red Mist, whos entire life has devolved into the hunting and abuse of Monsters? Another pretty obvious correlation)
Scarecrow Searching for Wisdom/The Oz gang - Daniel (It's story mirrors his journey after meeting Carmen (Osma) and joining the Facility. The others seem to moreso represent his time after her passing, when Ayin first took over ('The Adult who lies'), the Warm-Hearted Woodsman pretty clearly an analogy to his body as Chesed, Fraidy Cat being his fear and submission towards Angela, Binah, and Kali, and then the Road Home being his rebellion against them and Ayin.)
The Birds - Garion (Again, she was an Arbiter for the Head, so...)
The Price of Silence - Benjamin (Besides his Meltdown literally using its mechanics, the name of it comes from how he acted in regards to Ayin's plan, and Angela having to kill him, the one she cared about the most, to prevent him from telling X the truth. Quite literally, the 'Price for his Silence')
Going into more uncertain territory:
Plague Doctor/White Night: Distortion Carmen/Adam - A figure that offers you safety and solace, giving you their blessing, but in the end, that Blessing binds you like a curse, and turns you into a monster (aka how the distortion phenomenon works.)
One Sin and a Hundred Good Deeds - Ayin. Not only is its name a reference to his entire justification during the events of the game, him trapping everyone in the endless Cycle to ensure the plan succeeds, but just like how One Sin purifies White Night, Ayin enters and purifies the light, preventing the Distortion Phenomenon from taking root (As seen during Ending C. The Light without Ayin's sacrifice, and thus only Carmen's will, causes everyone in the City to distort.)
Express Train to Hell - W-Corp Trains.
1.76MHz - Smoke War. In its description it mentions explosions, screams, cries for help, and then smoke emanating from the radio despite it not being broken, with speculation being it reminds people of a specific day, a day of battle and war.
17:45 Don’t worry, we are getting an Intervalo in Limbus dedicated to the sweepers before Canto XIII.
Hong Lu is going to have the ultimate experience to tell his family about when he gets back to them. Very few things beats surviving a Sweeper Onslaught.
Wonder what’s making our gang go out into the backstreets at night, or into a sweeper den?
I think CENSORED supposed to represent the cognition injection process at L corp. given that it's a way to create adnomalities from the well and also the fact that the subjects have to put on blindfolds on so that they wont see each other's appearance given that is say it was beyond comprehension.
I honestly adore the horrors project moon has ❤️
My favorite faust simp posted!!
25:15 fun note, it wasn't actually a ret-con or anything, the great lake actually gets mentioned in the true ending of lobotomy corp, during the white nights and dark days scene!
Well darn, guess I'm an amnesiac. Thanks for that!
41:41 Dino Dave caught lacking
(this had me dying 💀💀)
Incredibly funny that by making [CENSORED] into a jab towards SCP and it's data obfuscating tropes.
They made it into an almost perfect copy of a specific SCP that plays with that trope by having a Censored version of the article, and an Uncensored one. With the Uncensored one going into great detail about it's weird anatomy, and how it uses humans to "reproduce"
41:43 is absolutely diabolical. i love you
omgogmgm omg
here comes the ultimate dinky dave upload
In the latest Canto there is a mention of "the Nebula" in the outskirts. This being mentioned once as a big scary outskirts thing has actually had me going insane. I want to know what it is and why I should fear it, but then the whales, the weird Christmas stuff from THAT Canto interlude... The Outskirts is already amazing horror, even better as the "Black bird gang" came from it too!
I will shove myself into the singing machine for MORE hour long videos. ( W vid btw)
RUclips gave me an auto reply to this that said "Go For It!" so take that how you will
Also thanks!!!
Was that my favorite General Reception named character Jikan in the first minute of this video? absolute cinema already
He's one of my favourite guests as a whole, so I'll take any chance to slot him in.
Also pyscho masochists in the backstreets scary oooooh and all that jazz
Im actually more interested in Project Moon as a whole........ to write Setting and Characters in this ton.......you must have truly experience things in your life
Project moon can make horror game anytime with all their game materials.
I love how much horror there is in this series, even if the focus has gone onto the back burner a bit.
One of my favorite underrated horror events is from the scrapped Limbus Mirror Dungeon Event to level up your sinners.
When you use it on a sinner, the machine’s keypad says “loud audio detected, exposure to this for a long period of time can result in hearing damage” the implication being that the procedure is so painful, your characters are screaming in agony loud enough to trigger the “loud noise” sensor on the machine
You gotta catch up in the limbus story now that canto 7 is fully out man
Warp perfectly represented one of my fear, something that happens to me however I can't remember it, which really made me shudder for moments of my life.
Ive never seen another pmoon fan agree with me on this, but the idea of warp trains being scary and evil never compelled me, it's like seeing the parasites in our bodies under a microscope, kinda gross, but why be scared of it if everyone comes out in the end.
It's pretty much over by the time you realize it's happening, but the fact that it ever happened is still the unsettling part
Eileen turned some other guy into gear on screen. But her father IS a gear. The big one on her head, to be precise. Her father was murdered by Black Silence when he was trashing city for any clue on Pianist, so Eileen, beign good girl, turned him in gear. It shown that she can "talk" to gears on her head (still not sure if it is true ore she even more insane than she appears). Judging by the fact that the guy she turned warned her about Full-stop office attack the turn-man-to-gear machine either make him obedient and/or erased him as person (i dont believe in it tho, don't think she would mindwipe her own father) or he actually stil concious. but fine beign gear.
LESTI LESTI MY BELOVED I LOVE W CORP AND WILL SELL MY SOUL TO IT FOR HER!!!!!
she is so cool i love Lesti
44:59 Nah, i think they get their own first class statis chamber and everything inside the Color trains
Yk whats crazier about Censored? Its not even an abnormality born from the Well and Lob Corps Cogito, its an Original being (Since its classification is O-03-89, the O stands for "Original Being) meaning it has existed even before Lobotomy Corp started
22:50 The reason they call the Corporation “Lobotomy Corporation” is actually for two reasons (spoilers ahead for both Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina):
The first reason is a bit on the nose, being that they took over and overthrew the old L Corp. in the Smoke War. The old L Corp. was an energy company, too, but they produced massive amounts of smoke pollution which made the surrounding area miserable. And of course… Lobotomy starts with “L”. Simple enough.
The second reason has to do with their Corporation’s Singularity, which would be Carmen’s nervous system. Her Seed of Light project wanted to study Cogito and its effects in drawing out ideas, concepts, emotions, etc. in the form of Abnormalities from the human mind. However, this was usually lethal. It’s after learning Carmen’s brain produced seemingly infinite amounts of Cogito to generate these Abnormalities that the so called “Bucket” Binah mentions was formed, and thus, the old Smoke War creature Singularity from old L Corp. is replaced by the Bucket, Lobotomy Corporation’s new Singularity. Also of course, they’re still an energy company because the Abnormalities they extract from the Bucket can generate Enkephalin, the energy needed for Lobotomy Corporation to work. And as seen in Limbus, you ideally need a living creature to produce Enkephalin. Coincidentally, Abnormalities possess a sense of “humanity” since they are born from human conscience, and they cannot die, instead reverting to an egg form, making them the perfect way to farm “infinite” Enkephalin boxes.
The above also explains Lobotomy Corporation’s logo: they are quite literally probing the human mind for Abnormalities and using those Abnormalities to generate their Enkephalin boxes. Basically a metaphorical (or perhaps real?) lobotomy.
33:45 it's more like the capacity to package all things (sorta like the fairy) to the point it can package time and space itself so they can use it to limit the day of someone (ex: poor people with only the utmost minimum that is 8 hours a day under t corp policy ) by packing a portion of their time and then release even more to the richer one's
42:22 could be or could not be, unless we know how pricey the mind wipe is
Goddamn it, first up, longtime PM fan here, but uh, when going through the W corp section nearing the end I had the thought "oh yeah, what was the funky teleporting existential horror story" and spent a good five minutes looking it up, only to unpause and immediately have you talk about The Jaunt...
41:44 Also, i think that when Rain says to Olga "Just don't turn yourself into an arse like last time" as they are about to board WARP train, it can be understood by looking at this image that even this quote can be interpreteted in a more literal way, with knowing the context.
22:50, I have always thought it was because of the AI Benjamin and Ayin created. They were created from brainmaps of their dead colleagues, as such I believe it was called that due to Ayin's Horror and Determination to bring Carmen's wish to fruition. Additionally Cogito and Enkephalin are found naturally in humans in the brain and spinal cord according to Faust in Limbus Company, while fuelling the Bus.
9:31 i read a homebrew of this monster once that said "the only reason god is safe from this monster is because it has yet to learn how to fly"
Censored might be a reference to a very specific SCP that is a little girl who the SCP foundation has to routinely do... Something to. Employees working there have to routinely get their memories wiped and circled out due to how traumatic the process is. The entire thing hinges on the ambiguity of what is actually being done to her and the idea that if this is not done then something much worse will happem
when you ask about the scariest game I've ever seen, I say fear & hunger (both of them), Limbus company even has some strong visual references to these games cuz of how intensely horrid they are
The fear and hunger games are peak fiction because Marcoh Olivia and Levi simply- exist within them...oh yeah also Marina but to a kesser extent.
Nas'hrah Numbah Wannnnn!!!!!!
The horror shown in proj. moon games is such an underrated element so I'm glad this potato is talking about it
From what I heard, censored could just be a representation of what Old L Corp's Singularity is (Refer to Black Silence Phase 2). I believe its mentioned in the observation logs that old L Corp employees are now working for Lobo Corp and they mention that it looks very similar... iirc they mention 'Is that? No it cant be'
Imagine, a Horror Game from project moon... anything would work out, Backstreet life simulator, Survival horror set in the Outskirts, You do not recognize the bodies in the lake
To this day, the whole train thing is the single most harrowing thing I've witnessed in all of fiction. I wasn't... scared per se (though I am a little wary of subways now). I was just... I felt so thoroughly violated, mentally. The gore, the isolation, the manipulation, the mental regression, the ironic veneer of happiness... And then the fact that this was the first encounter to get a vocal track- they wanted to make sure you don't forget this encounter. And I was so offended because of it. I have been fortunate enough to grow up without any notable trauma, so I can't claim to be triggered by anything. But that sequence... was about as close as I've come. I never want to see it again.
44:25 in the Purple Tear's book in Library of Ruina she states: "Its hard to come up with a definition and explination for a power that naturally emerged, you see?" then goes on to explain her ability to travel throught spacetime and "see a myriad of possibilities". As such I also dont think WARP corp and her are related, at least, not directly. You can also see this in the tools WARP corp Clean Up crew uses, they generate Charge by tearing the dimension apart and then use Charge for various effects. The Purple Tear does not use Charge at all