Awesome bike and my recommendation for new comers to the sport I would ran as drop but awesome to have so many options. Just ordered the Titanium version
@@anotheryoutuber_ Yeah, not so much though. This is a rare instance while the rest of the bicycle industry is making XC bikes more DH capable. Ritchey might be the only higher end brand where you can get a modern mountain bike frame with a more classic feel. But 29 inch wheels will never feel like the 26 inch wheeled MTBs of the past.
@@ShadLife Hey if you have time. I was a very avid mountain bike rider up through the 90's until I moved to Florida in 2002 and because there are no mountains here I quit riding and haven't been off road since. I raced BMX as a kid. Bought a brand new Cannondale M800 while I still made minimum wage just a few years before even front shocks were available on MBs yet and rode almost everyday for years and my last MB was a new Cannondale Super V Dual Suspension that I swapped the head shock for the most expensive Rock Shocks money could buy at the time and I purposely lived right next to the best trails around so I could ride everyday up until moving to flat FL. After all this time I'm going to buy a new bike and start riding again which is why I've been watching videos non stop. If you feel like it, can you quickly explain how 29s feel so much different than 26s? Would much appreciate your shared experience. Thanks!
State has tons of options for just paved surfaces, but you could totally use this on pavement. If I was doing that I’d get the 700c option and maybe some road specific tires.
I'm a little confused as to why adding through hole axles makes the bike more expensive? Is it just because through Axel hubs are more expensive? Or does it really cost that much more to manufacturer the frame for through hole axles?
Is the stem considered short when given the top tube is relatively short? It might be the first thing I were to change if I were riding it. EDIT: in the video, the stem looks a decent length. It's on the website where the stem looks super short.
It’s a 60mm stem so it’s a pretty good middle ground between flat and drop lengths. I’ve actually swapped drop bars on already and feel like the stem is about as long as I’d like it.
I have that bike, good bike, but wheelset is garbage, had issues state sent me new ones but new ones had issues too, ended up buying nice wheels, also chain kept getting stuck on fastest ring so I had to replace that as well, I recommend buying the frame and building it out.
@@RideYearRound Im almost 300lbs so ya I dont think the wheels will hold up, But you are on 650b I think you said, so they should be a little stonger, But I would get ready to upgrade the wheels.
It’s the same frame as the drop bar version so it has to be shorter to work with both. I also don’t know that a long ETT is very useful on a bike like this…it’s meant for dirt roads and some easy singletrack so a long front end isn’t needed or wanted.
@@RideYearRound , understood. But since owning several Jones LWB's (and since I wear size 15 shoes), I don't have or want any bikes with a front-center shorter than 700mm. Even my road-only bike has a front-center of 725mm. There's no downsides to having a long ETT, combined with a HTA in the high 60's, and a 60+mm fork offset, since the handling is lively and the bump compliance is superior compared to a tucked in front end.
I built mine from the ground up mine has shimano deore m5100 11 speed with deore xt flat mount brakes. And for Dropper post the new state al;lroad Ti version might have that.
@@theymademepickaname1248 alt Flatbar with surly moloko handlebar considering Deore xt linkglide pairing them with the upcoming shimano Cues ST-U6030 sti Drop shifters
@@theymademepickaname1248 Flat alt bar I am considering shimano cues version of Deore Xt 8130 and if I am right should be back compatible with the upcoming cues dropbar shifters
@@theodoredobrowolski8525 I'm thinking of building one as a tourer/commuter. I prefer flat bars with inner bar ends or possibly alt-bars. How do the alt bars work with the frame?
Unfortunately most entry level bikes start around $2000 these days. I’m of course talking about bikes from true blue bike companies and excluding Walmart/big box stores from this, but even those have seen prices double in the last 5 years.
8:09 was pure gold
I had this bike loved it and i converted barzo tubeless n they worked really good no sealant leak
bought one for my wife in a size small with a 650 wheel as she's 5.1, she loves the bike...
Awesome bike and my recommendation for new comers to the sport I would ran as drop but awesome to have so many options. Just ordered the Titanium version
They just released a brand new 4130 all road
looks like a fun ride
In this configuration, it's like a classic 90s-style MTB.
there is a reason the swing comes back
@@anotheryoutuber_ Yeah, not so much though. This is a rare instance while the rest of the bicycle industry is making XC bikes more DH capable.
Ritchey might be the only higher end brand where you can get a modern mountain bike frame with a more classic feel. But 29 inch wheels will never feel like the 26 inch wheeled MTBs of the past.
It looks so good tho
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@@ShadLife Hey if you have time. I was a very avid mountain bike rider up through the 90's until I moved to Florida in 2002 and because there are no mountains here I quit riding and haven't been off road since. I raced BMX as a kid. Bought a brand new Cannondale M800 while I still made minimum wage just a few years before even front shocks were available on MBs yet and rode almost everyday for years and my last MB was a new Cannondale Super V Dual Suspension that I swapped the head shock for the most expensive Rock Shocks money could buy at the time and I purposely lived right next to the best trails around so I could ride everyday up until moving to flat FL. After all this time I'm going to buy a new bike and start riding again which is why I've been watching videos non stop. If you feel like it, can you quickly explain how 29s feel so much different than 26s? Would much appreciate your shared experience. Thanks!
do you think this would be a good bike for someone new to gravel biking and biking in general?
Yep it’d be great for that. Not a huge investment, all the right components to try it out, and upgradable if you get really into it!
Kinda looks like the body position of an old rock hopper.
Would you use this for tarmac or is there other options for tarmac city riding?
State has tons of options for just paved surfaces, but you could totally use this on pavement. If I was doing that I’d get the 700c option and maybe some road specific tires.
I'm a little confused as to why adding through hole axles makes the bike more expensive? Is it just because through Axel hubs are more expensive? Or does it really cost that much more to manufacturer the frame for through hole axles?
The proprietary drive drain is a no go for me.
Nice bike. Slap on a steel Surly fork and you’re good to go.
I was kind of hoping it’d come with the stock steel fork too but when you choose the upgrade they don’t include it.
Dropper seat post on a bike like this is silly and it’s not surprising that a State feels like a track bike.
Yeah maybe, but I’m a big fan of dropper posts on anything used for dirt. It makes a huge difference, especially with drop bars.
why? i put dropper posts on every bike
Is the stem considered short when given the top tube is relatively short? It might be the first thing I were to change if I were riding it. EDIT: in the video, the stem looks a decent length. It's on the website where the stem looks super short.
It’s a 60mm stem so it’s a pretty good middle ground between flat and drop lengths. I’ve actually swapped drop bars on already and feel like the stem is about as long as I’d like it.
@@RideYearRound It must have been in the stock photo where the stem looked ridiculously short.
I have that bike, good bike, but wheelset is garbage, had issues state sent me new ones but new ones had issues too, ended up buying nice wheels, also chain kept getting stuck on fastest ring so I had to replace that as well, I recommend buying the frame and building it out.
Interested to see how they hold up especially since I’m a heavier rider and will be using it on a pretty wide variety of trails.
@@RideYearRound Im almost 300lbs so ya I dont think the wheels will hold up, But you are on 650b I think you said, so they should be a little stonger, But I would get ready to upgrade the wheels.
So far so good, but I’m looking for a 700c/29er wheelset either way haha.
I didn’t like the 28h spokes, I had issues. The cassette also has aluminum arms for lower gears and didn’t hold up well with steep climbs
Interesting, what issues did you have with the wheels?
@@RideYearRound mostly broken spokes. My LBS is a a wheel builder and no matter what he tried, those wheels were not strong enough for trail
ETT on a flat bar size large should be 610 mm or longer.
It’s the same frame as the drop bar version so it has to be shorter to work with both. I also don’t know that a long ETT is very useful on a bike like this…it’s meant for dirt roads and some easy singletrack so a long front end isn’t needed or wanted.
@@RideYearRound , understood. But since owning several Jones LWB's (and since I wear size 15 shoes), I don't have or want any bikes with a front-center shorter than 700mm. Even my road-only bike has a front-center of 725mm. There's no downsides to having a long ETT, combined with a HTA in the high 60's, and a 60+mm fork offset, since the handling is lively and the bump compliance is superior compared to a tucked in front end.
I built mine from the ground up mine has shimano deore m5100 11 speed with deore xt flat mount brakes. And for Dropper post the new state al;lroad Ti version might have that.
Drop bar or flat?
@@theymademepickaname1248 alt Flatbar with surly moloko handlebar considering Deore xt linkglide pairing them with the upcoming shimano Cues ST-U6030 sti Drop shifters
@@theymademepickaname1248 Flat alt bar I am considering shimano cues version of Deore Xt 8130 and if I am right should be back compatible with the upcoming cues dropbar shifters
@@theodoredobrowolski8525 I'm thinking of building one as a tourer/commuter. I prefer flat bars with inner bar ends or possibly alt-bars. How do the alt bars work with the frame?
@@theymademepickaname1248 for me the alt bars I use are the surly moloko bars and they are great to use.
SPACEFRAME REVIEW WHENNNN
hahaha call Jones and tell them you want to see it!
I also used that bike on my local mtb trails n it is very good for mtb too . State also make 36 tooth chain ring if 42 is too big
I saw that! I think a 40t might’ve been a better choice as the default but it’s nice they have options.
inshape cyclist and all around person is what makes biking fun on any bike,right?
I checked their website. It looks like the handlebar is 600mm wide.
That seems about right. Thanks for the info!
this bike literally calls for a curly handlebar - i would prefer something like the knolly tyaughton - and 300 bucks more is not that much
That looks like a pretty cool bike, but this is in a completely different category (i.e. it’s not even a mountain bike).
yes - the state is completely rigid - with relatively narrow tires - which I personally like - only on the geometry is room for improvement
I thought this was a review of a budget bike. $900 is not a budget bike.
Unfortunately most entry level bikes start around $2000 these days. I’m of course talking about bikes from true blue bike companies and excluding Walmart/big box stores from this, but even those have seen prices double in the last 5 years.
Chainring is the deal breaker. Too big for much of any climbing.
They do sell other chainrings for it and it’s a common size (5 bolt 110BCD) so you can find pretty much any size you want.
Just change the chain ring, one or 2 teeth smaller, thats what I did and its perfect now, I can climb very steep hills
It’s sad when $900 is budget.