Sky News Debate: Should The UK Ban Pick-Up Artist?
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- US self-styled pick-up artist Daryush Valizadeh, also known as Roosh V, has come under fire after suggesting in blog posts that rape should be legalised so long as it's done on private property, and that men should date a woman with an eating disorder.
It comes as Valizadeh cancelled a controversial series of events in the UK, claiming he could not guarantee the safety of those wanting to attend. But should the 36-year-old American be banned from entering the UK as a result of his opinions and actions?
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Kate Smurthwaite, British stand-up comedian and political activist
Ella Whelan, staff writer at Spiked
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Rape isn't taken seriously in UK? WTF? That's a lie
Well, if it's a "protected group" committing mass grooming and rape of an underage "oppressor group", I suppose it's ok.
It's not taken as seriously as it should be, not as many rapists are prosecuted as they should be.
@@sophielancaster3727 Of course, it would be racist or islamophobic if they were all prosecuted.
@@sophielancaster3727 Look forward to your appearance in the local Rotherham mosques with this important message!
@@sophielancaster3727 this
Dear God that 'comedian' always makes my skin crawl.
+Connor D same here. Cannot stand the woman. I wonder what her Stand up is like.
+Connor D Has anyone ever actually genuinely laughed at a Kate Smurthwaite joke? She bills herself as a comedian, but her raison d'etre is mewling on political debate shows.
+Connor D I think shes fab
What's the bet he banned himself because he knew by getting this attention he'd save travel costs and have a HUGE audience online willing to pay???
Usually I'm for letting people like him in, but his rape comment - if he genuinely said that, he should not be prosecuted for speech, but I'm for disallowing perverts from entering a nation
But that is the ONLY reason
They want it to ban pick up artist but countless foreign grooming gangs were fine.
Extremely Good Point .
Pua is so cringe!
Just hit the gym, diet and dress well and learn to dance and engage in cool hobbies and be passionate in articulation.
Roosh V is not a Men's Rights Activist. Nice smear job Kate.
He also, believe it or not, doesn't actually want to legalize rape - that was not a serious piece he wrote.
And also, just to be clear here, giving the *opinion* that the best way to get women to protect themselves from rapists is to legalize rape on private property (that's what Roosh actually wrote) is *NOT* the same as threatening to rape women and does not make someone a threat to women.
I don't like Roosh at all, but he should have been allowed to have his meetings. Good job making him a martyr.
Kate is an authoritarian, ignorant, excessively rude person who has no business having her opinion taken seriously by anyone.
sadly this is the mainstream media. thankfully red pill is on the rise no doubt
@@kbuss10 ironically is on the rise because of the retardation of mainstream haha
Leglaized rape is evil!
rape is rape , no matter where it happens
Roosh isn't an MRA and Kate knows that, what an obnoxious liar. He's a "pick up artist"; PUA's and MRA's have little to nothing in common. Kate's willfully misrepresenting him as an MRA to slur Men's Rights activists by saying: look!, MRA's advocate [insert odious PUA philosophy here].
Ella was awesome on Big Questions and she's awesome here.
+ScottishAtheist It's hard to know what the hell Roosh V is. 'Dickhead' probably covers it, I guess.
His worldview seems to be a mish-mish of conflicting ideas that probably don't even make sense within his own head. I think he's ingested bits of PUA, MRA, red pill and Randian objectivist ideology, though I've seen both PUAs and MRAs condemn the guy.
+ScottishAtheist He says a lot of similar things as MRAs, also many MRAs have admitted to attending his talks.
+saeefa proof!
I don’t know Ella but woman don’t laugh at Roosh so much as ump into bed with him... or use to... now he’s on something of a religious path (if I’m not mistaken), which makes him far more of a threat.
The USG plays havoc with the content of a girl’s character
“Don’t hate the player, hate the game…
This is an unpopular truth, because the ability to open the bra is our new test for moral righteousness. There must be some mistake, since everyone knows players are easy to spot and obviously unattractive to women. But there is no mistake. So long as a woman is playing the uncommitted sex game, she is going to find herself seeking the best players of that game. The mistake is in pretending she wasn’t playing the uncommitted sex game in the first place, not in failing to identify a man who will play it better than she does.”
dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/how-to-spot-a-player/
Ella Whelan is right, this is about free speech - but Kate Smurthwaite will barely let her get a word in edgeways !
Rape is not about to be legalised by anybody - even Roosh (who I don't agree with on most matters) doesn't think this, he is making a comment on how men can be found guilty of rape when BOTH parties are inebriated, that a woman can claim rape based on regret and the feminists say such a woman must always be believed.
Basically in sexual relations men are now 2nd class citizens whose role is to always be in the wrong if there is any disagreement.
What's the bet he banned himself because he knew by getting this attention he'd save travel costs and have a HUGE audience online willing to pay???
Usually I'm for letting people like him in, but his rape comment - if he genuinely said that, he should not be prosecuted for speech, but I'm for disallowing perverts from entering a nation
But that is the ONLY reason
This debate seems to be one-sided but the woman seems to put that feminist comedienne in her place.
How are Britons not completely sick of this shrew?
3 women talking about a men's rights activist
stay here roosh europe is over
Ella Whelan is my heroine.
Is satire even legal in the UK?
the girl on the left is just as insane as that dude 😂..
That Ella girl is lush smart girl
Free speech with exceptions is not free speech, is it?
Yes it is, hate speech does not count
@@SuperSymbiote1 and who determines what is hate speech???
@@BrothaJohn-br2hd Anyone that determines adhominons and attacks their character is hate speech instead of constructive criticism
@@SuperSymbiote1 ok. Is admonishingbo4 attacking the character of killers, thieves and paedophiles hate speech???
@@BrothaJohn-br2hd No because that’s obviously wrong.
He did NOT say that rape should be legal. Anyone who read the article would know that it's satire inspired by A Modest Proposal.
"we have freespeech" Haha which one is the comedian?
Roosh v is innocent.. where is your democracy? everyone has the right of free speech
Can we call her racist since the left would consider him a “brown” person?
"Bizarre pick up lines". If she disagrees with his philosophies that is fine but this shows she has no idea about his actual ideas to begin with.
Does Ella Whelan have a Twitter?
+Teyla Talks Yes she does, and she is awesome
Omg he's horrific!!!!!
hey baby! can i have your number :)
I find it extremely sad that some of the same things Roosh V says are also similar to tenets of Sharia law. Roosh only has 1 million followers on his crap blog worldwide, how many does Sharia law supporters have?
+urwormfood Maybe not all the people following him are supporters? They may just want to see first hand the bile he comes out with?
Haha this was fun to watch. Ella is amazing! Now that's what I call a strong independent woman. Try telling her she's a victim and see what happens. More women like her need to stand up to lunatics like this.
Someone repeating approved pc lines is not "strong" just a sheep.
What's the bet he banned himself because he knew by getting this attention he'd save travel costs and have a HUGE audience online willing to pay???
Usually I'm for letting people like him in, but his rape comment - if he genuinely said that, he should not be prosecuted for speech, but I'm for disallowing perverts from entering a nation
But that is the ONLY reason
this sht can not be taken sarcastically..after this debate is done between sir ftard and mrs my vagina looks like balls with the skin of scrotum..whatever the results of that debatr will be it will leave a guy out there and a girl too weak to defend against r wording
Any man with half a brain will roger an easy target. Go Roosh!
Comedienne and feminist.
Does not Compute
I don't think rooch is being serious when he says these things, it's tongue in cheek.
the pro free speech girl is adorable
1:30 .. The girl from Spiked, grinning at the lag. :) ahaha love her
The 2nd lady is actually mature and secure. She does underestimate the power a man has physically weirdly. It Baffles me Adults need other Adults protect them from hearing spicy and sarcastic takes on culture.
Can't agree with some of his more outlandish statement, but Roosh V is a legend.
I just think he is sick and one day will meet his match
Ella’s demeanour in this debate is classic
yes they should ban him🔥🔥🔥
Where is he? what's the source of the accusation? are we doing trial without proof and evidence? wth?
Can he be present in his own trial?
C*NTS.
One sided, typical female tactics.
The non-comdian, is a fool. She needs to see things from every one's point of vue not just her and the people she knows. I mean attackeing working class women, when rape and dv happens to any type of women and if she had came out of her world then she would no this. Their are a lot of followers following this men, and rape in college and universtay is something that according to the states has been rising, so people do agree with this monster. They need to teach men how to respect themself and those around them. and be real not messing around with this. Also men arnt second class citizens, but need to learn that they have a place in sociaty, working as partnears, family men, or as a person being their for others, just like women. I just find this whole thing sad that some men feel they need to dominate and distroy jsut to feel like men its sad.
"Comedian." 😹😹😹
This lad knows his stuff.
not anymore
Roosh is right. I stand with him.
Soes Emma have any friends.
"Comedienne" 😂 (code for malcontent femicommie)
Can I park my Toyota on that Forehead?
Chill out. Emotional gobby
This man is a G
Il est complètement cinglé celui-là !
Roosh V is king
haha genius. Thats one way to get in the limelight.
Irony