She really thought Classical Music is RACIST?!

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
  • As a professional Classical Violinist, this video sucked every one of my brain cells. This person argues that if you play classical music, you are racist... If you play works from Mozart, Beethoven, Paganini, Bach, Vivaldi and the list of composers go on, you are offensive to this person. That means that all you prodigies who play the violin, piano, cello, and more, you must give up your instrument. If your conscience is plagued by this video, not to worry, ViolinMechanic's got your back.
    Now go Practice.

Комментарии • 3,3 тыс.

  • @estheruche9883
    @estheruche9883 7 месяцев назад +1603

    I am black and I hate the way people throw the word “racism” to everything. It is so undermining and disrespectful. Although there is not much “representation” of the composers, it does not make the genre “racist.” That is like saying there is not much diversity in Nigerian gospel musicians, therefore, the genre they sing is racist. As Violin Mechanics mentioned, it is mostly European-based. We cannot change the past or things to match with the current politics. Let us enjoy the music and genre and add to it with different styles like how we see Modern Classical music.

    • @MissTwoSetEncyclopedia
      @MissTwoSetEncyclopedia 7 месяцев назад +115

      I was thinking the same thing.
      I'm white in a predominantly white country, so I'll probably never fully understand what many people go through because of racism.
      But I can't picture myself going to some Aboriginal Australians and say their music is racist because white people don't play the didgeridoo. It doesn't make any sense.
      Sure, classical music was born in a Western white society and has spread all over the world. But everyone can enjoy and perform it. The same way white people can enjoy gospel which comes from black communities, to keep your example.
      Racism is a real issue, but throwing the word in each and every situation is counterproductive.

    • @alhfgsp
      @alhfgsp 7 месяцев назад +48

      Yes. Also, to be more accurate, I refer to "music theory" as "Western Tonal Theory" so as not to suggest that the European originating structure is ubiquitous. That's fair, but the racism claim is just a way to bash anything regarded as traditional. These composers only wanted to spread joy through their passion, and there are people out there acting like they participated in colonialism or something.

    • @5BBassist4Christ
      @5BBassist4Christ 7 месяцев назад +25

      Any recommendations on Nigerian Gospel musicians? I would love to expose myself to that.

    • @Crimsxn_K1ra
      @Crimsxn_K1ra 7 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia i agree!

    • @moineten
      @moineten 7 месяцев назад +23

      @estheruche9883 As an Asian-European violinist in a country where the majority of people is white, I fully agree. Racism is a real issue, but it shouldn't just be thrown around to bash things.

  • @lordbenjenstark3792
    @lordbenjenstark3792 6 месяцев назад +1120

    As black man that grew up in the hood that played the violin and trumpet in elementary school, classical music is what kept me sane through those tumultuous times.

    • @kateshiningdeer3334
      @kateshiningdeer3334 6 месяцев назад +4

      Serious question - why classical and not jazz? I'm white, and I took formal classical piano for a couple of years, but I would have MUCH rather had jazz training - I always played more by ear in the first place, so jazz is a better fit for me. So I assume there's a reason you preferred classical - what about it was it that you loved?
      (For clarity, I love LISTENING to classical, I'm just not fond of PLAYING it.)

    • @maxpudlowski8820
      @maxpudlowski8820 6 месяцев назад +11

      Do you know that it's the matter of taste in music. I'd also go classical over jazz. To be honest I'd rather listen to dubstep than boring jazz 😅

    • @gilgameshofuruk4060
      @gilgameshofuruk4060 6 месяцев назад +6

      ​@maxpudlowski8820 Most Jazz sounds like a nasty accident to me.

    • @theophrastus3.056
      @theophrastus3.056 6 месяцев назад +14

      And it proves that the music itself is for everyone. There’s no musical notion that says “play like you’re white”. I like old school soul music, because the themes were universal.

    • @marylist1236
      @marylist1236 6 месяцев назад +1

      Wynton Marsalis is my favorite Classical trumpeter

  • @hurricanefury439
    @hurricanefury439 6 месяцев назад +113

    "i don't undertsand it therefore i want it banned"
    pretty much sums up the whole thing

  • @colinbooth2421
    @colinbooth2421 7 месяцев назад +533

    Ignorance = prejudice. here's a CLASSIC example!

    • @gj8683
      @gj8683 6 месяцев назад +20

      Add to that the inability to think critically, which includes the ability to consider when one might be wrong.

    • @charlesdarwin5185
      @charlesdarwin5185 6 месяцев назад +4

      Ignorance leads to confabulation 😂

    • @haw-chaw-chawcalypse
      @haw-chaw-chawcalypse 6 месяцев назад +2

      Well played, you rube!

    • @barbarakauppi9915
      @barbarakauppi9915 6 месяцев назад +4

      Perhaps this is more a case of 'correlation does not mean causation', i.e. perhaps its prejudice that breeds ignorance more than the other way around.
      This female doesn't actually "believe" classical music is *racist, as she claims. She merely believes that she wants to be seen as popular and important, and therefore uses that current ever-ready social media weapon of choice: reckless indefensible and groundless accusations of *racism as a smear, for her dual purpose of self-promotion and craven self-preservation.
      That last part, craven self-preservation, is the usual practice of slithering cowards in times of strife and pressure, which both communists and organized crime use regularly to their very deadly advantage. Think of those infamous neighbors in the former East Germany who would rat out innocent people routinely to the brutally vicious "authorities" merely to keep police attention away from themselves.. Here's your modern day social media regurgitation of it.

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@barbarakauppi9915 - Valid points. Isn't she virtue-signaling here with a powerful flourish of narcissism? Does she truly care or want to be accepted/viewed as caring? Unfortunately, it is fair to wonder if she would rat somone out for "enjoying Classical Music" if we were under such a totalitarian state ( that is Anti-Intellectual or Anti-European ).

  • @Pocketfarmer1
    @Pocketfarmer1 7 месяцев назад +1147

    Banning TikTok is making more sense.

    • @xarisstylianou
      @xarisstylianou 6 месяцев назад +8

      I just LOVE good music!!!I must admit that i am drawn to metal but if i am reading iwant classical

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 6 месяцев назад +8

      No way! A site where random young people -- only the most opinionated need apply -- can tell you how the world works is such great fodder for... anything you like.

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 6 месяцев назад +3

      Sadly the Ban tiktok law.. is doing anything but baning tiktok

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 6 месяцев назад

      @@jessejordache1869
      "only the most opinionated need apply"
      Its not only that. Its that they boast the most stuid thing... and yes, that is a policy of tiktok.
      They only do that in the west, in china they boast stem and reasearch topic

    • @redemissarium
      @redemissarium 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@xarisstylianou just listen to old marty friedman, tony macalpine and vitalij kuprij albums you got both metal and classical 😉

  • @jessicles23
    @jessicles23 6 месяцев назад +67

    She’s the epitome of tell me you don’t know music , without telling me you know music “

  • @ChrisTian-rm7zm
    @ChrisTian-rm7zm 6 месяцев назад +345

    Moral indignation is one of the few ways to feel great about yourself without actually having to achieve anything.

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 6 месяцев назад +18

      Slacktivism

    • @christophjohnson3777
      @christophjohnson3777 6 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@evilsharkey8954 love this phrase!

    • @davruck1
      @davruck1 6 месяцев назад

      Sounds like white mediocrity in a nutshell.

    • @kengodsey4490
      @kengodsey4490 6 месяцев назад +2

      Amen !

    • @Ontheroxxwithsalt
      @Ontheroxxwithsalt 6 месяцев назад

      Sure, and the sooner they realize they aren't reviled for their skin color, rather the fact that they are big a-holes, the sooner they'll be able to work on themselves.

  • @davidvelasquez5147
    @davidvelasquez5147 6 месяцев назад +202

    I am a Hispanic violinist. Classical music is more than race! You can have your modern music, keep it all. Classical music is eternal, for the entire world.

    • @davidshurterfoundermembero2885
      @davidshurterfoundermembero2885 6 месяцев назад

      what does hispanic mean? is that a white person from mexico?

    • @kylemenos
      @kylemenos 6 месяцев назад

      They have to call everything white people have done as racist because otherwise the crazy government funding they get would not be given to them.

    • @who_ever
      @who_ever 6 месяцев назад

      @@davidshurterfoundermembero2885 Are you really that ignorant ? You look old enough to have some life experience's, if not then you best get some.

    • @joeblack8915
      @joeblack8915 6 месяцев назад

      It isn't external because it hasn't existed for all eternity. Reality check: ALL music is for the entire world, including classical. You do it no favours by continuing the snobbery associated with it.

    • @elsalmon_
      @elsalmon_ 6 месяцев назад

      El Sistema?

  • @vahidoph
    @vahidoph 6 месяцев назад +74

    Middle Eastern here. I fell in love with classical music the first time I heard vivaldi and Schubert. Over the years I leaned toward rock and metal, but still classical music has a special place in my heart, and I still listen to them.
    I don't care what color of skin did the composer have or what was their political beliefs. I just wonder how did vivaldi came up with those bangers.

    • @TheRealRedAce
      @TheRealRedAce 6 месяцев назад +2

      One of those European classical composers, the Russian Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov loved Middle eastern music!

  • @chia_s_ee_d
    @chia_s_ee_d 7 месяцев назад +481

    Ummmmm she didn’t even mention asians lol….. im chinese and ive been a classical musician for 9 years!! Also…. TCHAIKOVSKY WAS GAY

    • @canalesworks1247
      @canalesworks1247 6 месяцев назад +32

      Bernstein, Samuel Barber, Menotti, Benjamin Britten.

    • @nunyabiznez6381
      @nunyabiznez6381 6 месяцев назад +23

      Yo Yo Ma, Seiji Ozowa both come to mind. Yo Yo Ma is probably the best cellist who ever lived. His Bach is subline. I think someone once told her about a handful of German composers, Richard Wagner for one, who had some bigoted political beliefs and then applied that to all classical music not realizing that Wagner was not the only composer of classical music.

    • @paunitka7
      @paunitka7 6 месяцев назад +25

      @@nunyabiznez6381 But she only includes the 18th century composers, so Wagner is out of the picture. ;P

    • @nunyabiznez6381
      @nunyabiznez6381 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@paunitka7 I concede your point. I mentioned Wagner as the only bigoted composer I could think of off the top of my head. I am sure there are others but I don't know enough about the political beliefs of composers to know for sure. But my point which I think you missed, remains, she likely heard someone once say one composer, whoever that was, was a bigot and then decided to lump all classical composers, of the 18th century, in the one category. Also, as she had made this huge false broad accusation out of ignorance, I was assuming she was conflating the term "18th century" with the term "1800's" which is a common error among today's youth. Almost daily I hear people say that we are in the 20th century and talk about their parents being born in the 19th century and that was in fact what I thought she was trying to say and meant the "1800's." But for the sake of precision I will concede you are most likely correct that she did indeed mean 18th century composers as that is what she did say.

    • @paunitka7
      @paunitka7 6 месяцев назад +18

      OMG, you're right. She must have meant the 19th century. 🤦 And here was I, wondering why she was so focused on late baroque and classicism. 🤦

  • @brianlennox
    @brianlennox 7 месяцев назад +447

    I'm a black violinist who is studying classical music, and plays classical music. She has no real argument with the rhetoric she uses. One of my favorite composers Dvorak was an abolitionist who argued if African American music styles should be a foundation of classical music...nice channel BTW

    • @JadeOthen
      @JadeOthen 7 месяцев назад

      It's just political bullshit - "divide and rule", nothing more. There were very very few black people in Europe in those days, fact. It's not that black people were there and were barred from composing or playing classical music - now THAT would be racist!!

    • @Kargbo-Reffell_Music
      @Kargbo-Reffell_Music 7 месяцев назад +45

      The 2nd movement of the New World symphony is basically a tribute to African American culture. The Cor Anglais is used to try and match that sound of 'Spirituals' the black music he was exposed to whilst living in the US. I'm a massive Dvorak fan myself, love all his work.

    • @jong8153
      @jong8153 7 месяцев назад

      Completely agree! Read about Dvorak’s special relationship wi the Harry Thacker Burliegh (and here a beautiful rendition of two of Burleigh’s fantastic Southland Sketches here: m.ruclips.net/video/X7xJ3MY7Ojc/видео.html&pp=ygURR2VyZ2FuYSBidXJsZWlnaCA%3D).

    • @jmrabinez9254
      @jmrabinez9254 7 месяцев назад +11

      Dvorak an abolitionist? Damn... I didn't know that, mate!

    • @brianlennox
      @brianlennox 7 месяцев назад +26

      @@jmrabinez9254 While I havent seen that term attached to him this one example I dug this up from the Oxford Academic that showed his forward thinking on race in that era:
      "...Jeannette Thurber and Antonín Dvořák had opened the National Conservatory to Black students free of charge, thus expanding educational opportunities for talented Black musicians. The premiere of the New World Symphony in December 1893 reignited a widespread and vicious public debate about the place of Black music and musicians in American national life."

  • @nostalgiccameralife
    @nostalgiccameralife 6 месяцев назад +259

    ...uh nobody in the 1600-1700s thought that the world was flat.

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 6 месяцев назад +60

      Although a lot do now! She’s probably one of them…

    • @killerkraut9179
      @killerkraut9179 6 месяцев назад +24

      The ancient greeks found out that the word was round and this Knowledge wasnt realy lost!

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 6 месяцев назад +11

      @@killerkraut9179 Erastothemes

    • @SimbaOS
      @SimbaOS 6 месяцев назад +12

      Actually many did. When you say NOBODY - that's factually not true.

    • @nostalgiccameralife
      @nostalgiccameralife 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@SimbaOS "many" - how many is "many"? Do you have any documentation? Any firsthand sources from the 17th or 18th century, which say the Earth was flat?

  • @shawnchristopherwhite3271
    @shawnchristopherwhite3271 7 месяцев назад +451

    I'm so sick of these weird ideas. I'll take Sibelius over Cardi B any day. PS: Sick of all you Sibelius haters too - this is a violin channel and he wrote one of the greatest violin concertos of all time. Stay on track.

    • @alex9920ro
      @alex9920ro 7 месяцев назад +53

      It is a blasphemy even to compare those two...Sibelius wrote some of the most beautiful pieces of music ever, while Cardi B is yapping the worst sounding noise anyone can ever hear.

    • @Ramberta
      @Ramberta 7 месяцев назад +2

      now THAT is racist to say haha. that's why people say classical enjoyers are racist, because y'all are and you're too eager to announce it. I say this as a violinist

    • @alex9920ro
      @alex9920ro 7 месяцев назад +50

      @@Ramberta so having common sense, using our ears, and not liking something that is just noise and yelling non-sense is racist now? It's racist not to listen to the most terrible "music" ever created?

    • @jeffreyjeziorski1480
      @jeffreyjeziorski1480 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@alex9920rohaving an opinion is racist, apparently.

    • @gejost
      @gejost 7 месяцев назад +6

      Why can't you just appreciate diversity in music and genres? I am not patient enough ti watch the video

  • @lottaandgus
    @lottaandgus 6 месяцев назад +239

    Imagine trying to have a conversation with this girl. It would be torture to be face-to-face with such confident ignorance.

    • @teastrainer3604
      @teastrainer3604 6 месяцев назад

      Imagine coming home to her every night.

    • @barbarakauppi9915
      @barbarakauppi9915 6 месяцев назад +10

      Ignorance and confidence are two sides of the same coin.

    • @adamantiuscloudcat1799
      @adamantiuscloudcat1799 6 месяцев назад

      Its a stupid person. Stupidity is not just being ignorant but repeating a lesson without thinking abput what she is saying.
      Most feminist present this symptom and get crushed in real life discussions.

    • @christopherweber9464
      @christopherweber9464 6 месяцев назад +9

      Confident ignorance ... I've been looking for some good phraseology to better understand the people of tiktok and you have given it to me. Thank you.

    • @daviddiscenza3187
      @daviddiscenza3187 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@christopherweber9464 Vincibly ignorant would be a better term. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt that she has the intelligence to be convinced of her error when confronted by the facts.

  • @Smido83
    @Smido83 6 месяцев назад +47

    Only racists are capable of seeing racism in everything that surrounds them.
    Congtarts to this woman, she just outed herself as one of the biggest racists on TikTok!
    Great work!

    • @johnmay6090
      @johnmay6090 6 месяцев назад +2

      Agree. If you hate something enough, you will become it.

  • @sigurdkaputnik7022
    @sigurdkaputnik7022 7 месяцев назад +269

    She confused the classical period of music (i.e. vienna classic - Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven) with the broader term of classical music (16th - 20th century)
    She thinks "classical" music is limited to the 18th century (at 0:52). My guess is, she does not play an instrument and she has no clue about music.

    • @canalesworks1247
      @canalesworks1247 6 месяцев назад +24

      Indeed. This tripe came from some professor who filled her head with this garbage. The professor him or herself is likely not a musician.

    • @norbertschanne1943
      @norbertschanne1943 6 месяцев назад +28

      Even for the classical period, she's not correct: One of the most renowned composers in Paris was black (Joseph de Boulogne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges), and Beethoven dedicated one of his most famous works to a black violinist/composer (before re-dedicating it to R. Kreutzer over some personal issues).

    • @JorgeGonzalez-nk2dl
      @JorgeGonzalez-nk2dl 6 месяцев назад +11

      Agree. The "(whatever discipline i am too stupid to do) is racist " has become too common these days.

    • @stephenparry6811
      @stephenparry6811 6 месяцев назад

      This is an Adam neely leftist talking point: classical music is racist because one of its pedagogues was a German supremacist... forget exactly who but that was the crux of his argument taken from marxist critics of classical music

    • @mariaeddycesario3067
      @mariaeddycesario3067 6 месяцев назад +5

      Maybe her musicist of choice is Eminem (whatever),

  • @palyddon
    @palyddon 7 месяцев назад +253

    Those who can’t create must destroy. It’s their only way of attracting attention. Her rebuttal will be to accuse Debussy et al. of cultural appropriation.

    • @litteliten4999
      @litteliten4999 6 месяцев назад +21

      ... bullseye, they are also known as narcissists.

    • @paunitka7
      @paunitka7 6 месяцев назад +8

      @palyddon Damn, she probably would do exactly that!

    • @pasadenaphil8804
      @pasadenaphil8804 6 месяцев назад +14

      I once taught myself how to play every single song Scott Joplin wrote after I figured out the trick to playing ragtime. I was surprised to learn that Joplin's inspiration was Debussy who often used syncopation. Debussy didn't "appropriate" it and neither did Joplin. Music just evolves as new ideas are adopted (not appropriated) by those who are inspired by those who led the way before them. Did Beethoven "appropriate" ideas from Handel or Chopin? No but they greatly influenced his genius.

    • @paunitka7
      @paunitka7 6 месяцев назад +9

      This is something you don't need to explain to a person knowledgeable about music (and culture in general), but at the same time, you will never get it across to a rabid woke. 😬

    • @pasadenaphil8804
      @pasadenaphil8804 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry, I meant Hadyn not Handel.

  • @jeesmith99
    @jeesmith99 6 месяцев назад +30

    There is nothing keeping anyone from enjoying classical music. This racist label is absolute nonsense.
    Social media was a mistake.

    • @leegaul2161
      @leegaul2161 6 месяцев назад

      The hippies predated digital social media by about 30 years, and infected universities, occupied public venues, amplified substance abuse, and helped cause riots. And just like the hipsters today, the hippies of yore were a bunch of lazy, entitled white people accusing everyone of being "the man" while ironically wearing bastardized versions of indigenous and african people's garments. This fire has always been burning.

  • @Kerry-i4s
    @Kerry-i4s 7 месяцев назад +983

    She graduated from a McDonald's bathroom in Ohio

    • @Kerry-i4s
      @Kerry-i4s 7 месяцев назад +23

      I got a pin from one of my favorite RUclipsrs 🥳

    • @SisselOnline
      @SisselOnline 7 месяцев назад

      @@Kerry-i4scongrats w

    • @ViolinMechanic
      @ViolinMechanic  7 месяцев назад +26

      Glad you’re apart of this channel! It’s always a support seeing your comments!

    • @Kerry-i4s
      @Kerry-i4s 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@ViolinMechanic I'll always be here (until San the violin dude hate ever happens)

    • @stuntdouble777
      @stuntdouble777 7 месяцев назад +18

      I believe her phone number is still on the wall there.

  • @Absaalookemensch
    @Absaalookemensch 7 месяцев назад +189

    Is traditional music from Africa racist? What about indigenous music from the Americas? From India? China?
    When a culture develops entertainment for their own culture, they are not racist by not being Diverse, Equal and Inclusive for every known culture on the planet.

    • @347Jimmy
      @347Jimmy 7 месяцев назад +39

      You can take her entire argument and apply it to Indian classical music. It's all the music of Hindi and Tamil men, big lack of diversity. Gets regarded as the highest form of music in India. And if you go study it, they don't teach you about music from other parts of the world 😂

    • @Absaalookemensch
      @Absaalookemensch 7 месяцев назад

      @@347JimmyExactly. This is why the victimization mentality is so dangerous. It robs those afflicted with it of individual thought and reasoning, making false accusations based upon ideologically driven villains.

    • @backintimealwyn5736
      @backintimealwyn5736 7 месяцев назад

      she wants to dismantle western civilization, racist means "european" to her , that's it. everything european will be labeled as so. Plus she uses this word now, she would have used "bourgeois" fifty years ago, she will use something else when this does'nt work anymore. They surf on social momentum to adapt their discourse.

    • @jonathanparks207
      @jonathanparks207 6 месяцев назад +26

      However, if you do take elements of music from another culture and incorporate it into your own you will then be accused of culture appropriation.

    • @347Jimmy
      @347Jimmy 6 месяцев назад +10

      @@jonathanparks207 not always. George Harrison used Indian classical elements in The Beatles, and got big awards from the Indian government for "promoting their culture abroad".
      But that was a different time back then. Now, you'd probably just get cancelled lol

  • @sarahhenderson8012
    @sarahhenderson8012 6 месяцев назад +8

    As a classical flautist, that is so uneducated and painful.

  • @philipdante
    @philipdante 7 месяцев назад +266

    Love everything. But the classical composers didn't think the world was flat. Not even people in ancient Greece thought the world was flat. Thank you for a great channel! Keep it up!

    • @johng5218
      @johng5218 7 месяцев назад

      I mean, today people thinks so. How come in a continent who burned people for believing the contrary would would "not think" world was flat?

    • @stewartkingsley
      @stewartkingsley 7 месяцев назад +26

      Your right, thats a modern day idea that the world is flat.

    • @TNungesser
      @TNungesser 7 месяцев назад +34

      The other day the flat earth society said "We have supporters around the globe." Now then, let that last word sink in.@@stewartkingsley

    • @prschuster
      @prschuster 7 месяцев назад +6

      You caught that too.

    • @raychat2816
      @raychat2816 7 месяцев назад +8

      It’s true that the first 2 times the radius of the earth was measured was before before the Bronze Age collapse, therefore before the Greeks, then around 300or so BC was the first time the radius was measured with less than 2% difference with reality …
      However the point here is that there’s no need in the first place to defend how the people were in certain eras because a group of people wants to convince themselves that throughout history, and across the globe, people couldn’t possibly have been different to them today and falsifying history to fit this narrative is a fetish they want to enforce on everyone.
      I find stereotypical gangs of bikers thinking classical music is sissy music a LOT less insulting this girl’s statement … especially that they can be a LOT more open minded than her.
      I even find those thinking that classical music is exclusively elitist a LOT friendlier than her.

  • @kuvasz5252
    @kuvasz5252 6 месяцев назад +133

    Its the clueless arrogance of accusing others of arrogance that is so mind numbing.

    • @brentarnold_piano
      @brentarnold_piano 6 месяцев назад +1

      I agree. I think he could have really looked at the topic seriously and articulated it better. It's not the music itself that is racist, but the whole infrastructure of society around education and access that has caused problems. Not just for people of color, but also women before the twentieth century. Today, education is prohibitively expensive. So is access to quality instruments. Even for the middle class!

    • @useruseruseruseruser790
      @useruseruseruseruser790 6 месяцев назад

      But white cis males have no problems with how prohibitively expensive it is or having access to instruments. What a racist, sexist society.

  • @klauswigsmith
    @klauswigsmith 6 месяцев назад +13

    As a metalhead since I was a teenager in the 80s, I have mad respect and love for classical music.
    So much of metal and so many metal musicians are heavily influenced by classical.

    • @publicxxer5379
      @publicxxer5379 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah but you'd have to be able to think and that's too hard for the lib pea brain

  • @sheole5165
    @sheole5165 6 месяцев назад +103

    The number of people who happily combine absolute cluelessness with complete certainty of opinion is growing every day. Or does it just seem that way to me because cluelessness is no longer considered a flaw, but a virtue that can be peddled?

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 6 месяцев назад +11

      It's commonly referred to as "the Dunning-Kruger effect".

  • @kingdavidsaures8479
    @kingdavidsaures8479 6 месяцев назад +77

    "Classical music is one of the most underrated art in America."
    Yeah completely!

  • @wilsonsandrio7153
    @wilsonsandrio7153 6 месяцев назад +14

    This woman is the perfect example of ignorance, the type who invades and burns libraries and destroys ancient monuments.

  • @BruceG2009
    @BruceG2009 6 месяцев назад +79

    Overuse and abuse of the word racist causes it to diminish in meaning. When something happens that actually is racist, the word ends up having no meaning.

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 6 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly!

    • @TheNewHope2010
      @TheNewHope2010 6 месяцев назад +1

      Amen!

    • @Mehwhatevr
      @Mehwhatevr 6 месяцев назад +2

      It’s just a way to cancel anything they find… inconvenient. There were classes I didn’t want to take either, but I sucked it up

    • @vivianwallwood
      @vivianwallwood 6 месяцев назад +1

      Best way of dealing with racism is to not talk about it when it isn't an issue

    • @CanadianMonarchist
      @CanadianMonarchist 6 месяцев назад

      Write this across the sky in letters of fire!

  • @SeanSenior-f8b
    @SeanSenior-f8b 6 месяцев назад +105

    What a numbnut. I am from chav land (an English council estate), but I love music classical music. My youngest son loves music and did it at school. He loves flight of the bumble bee. He said his music teacher was the best teacher ever. The thing is, my son is working class his music teacher is very middle class. When the school cut music lessons at school. His teacher was made redundant. My son was gutted. This man helped my son get out of his shell. He encouraged my son to get on the school stage and play his bass guitar. My son is 21 and is in the British army. Music everybody's. Thank you, music and Mr Last.

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 6 месяцев назад +5

      Numbnut. Haven't heard that in a while. LoL. Apt.

    • @sillybollox2244
      @sillybollox2244 6 месяцев назад +1

      My neighbour is a Mr Last, retired music teacher... in Norfolk?

    • @frauditorsubslickboots
      @frauditorsubslickboots 6 месяцев назад +1

      I say - 'Chavland' - how dare you - Essex borders here - we don't want any of you're Shell Suits over here - thank YOU. ;) (Good luck to you and your boy - and music is MY life)

    • @SeanSenior-f8b
      @SeanSenior-f8b 6 месяцев назад +1

      @cleverclogs2244 hi, I think Mr Last is in his mid-30s now. But I think that they may be related he was a teacher at Tong Academy in Bradford Yorkshire. But they cut music shame more cuts means less opportunity's for the working class. I mean, Zain Malik of one direction went to the same school.

    • @SeanSenior-f8b
      @SeanSenior-f8b 6 месяцев назад

      @everyonehatesfrauditors765 It's OK, mate. I don't venture much out of Yorkshire, lol. Henry the v in the play Miss Quickly says to Prince Hal that he is a chav and to wipe his smile of his mush. Still said today by our youth in Holmewood, Bradford. Are you alright, my chaver mush.

  • @13-bit-kitten
    @13-bit-kitten 6 месяцев назад +5

    3:23 "Op-pa... I've never heard such stupidity in my life" MADE ME SCREAM!!!

  • @late8641
    @late8641 7 месяцев назад +129

    "Cis straight white male composers"
    Someone needs to introduce her to Tchaikovsky

    • @Ramberta
      @Ramberta 7 месяцев назад +2

      He checks all of those except for "straight"

    • @sueblankenship9441
      @sueblankenship9441 6 месяцев назад +4

      I believe Ravel was gay as well

    • @finosuilleabhain7781
      @finosuilleabhain7781 6 месяцев назад +28

      @@RambertaWell he could hardly help being born male and white. What was he supposed to do with his genius - be a shopkeeper?

    • @turquoiseblue228
      @turquoiseblue228 6 месяцев назад +1

      Francis Poulenc too. And Benjamin Britten.

    • @turquoiseblue228
      @turquoiseblue228 6 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@RambertaHe doesn't check cis either because that's BS.

  • @davidtaylor5204
    @davidtaylor5204 6 месяцев назад +86

    They've politicized Classical Music. This is insane.

    • @burgercide
      @burgercide 6 месяцев назад +6

      They're insane.

    • @davidshurterfoundermembero2885
      @davidshurterfoundermembero2885 6 месяцев назад +2

      Who are they? some loon on tik tok?

    • @Bronasaxon
      @Bronasaxon 6 месяцев назад

      They’ve polarized western civilization.

    • @Rai2M
      @Rai2M 6 месяцев назад

      Math is racist as well, according to woke lunatics.

    • @killerkraut9179
      @killerkraut9179 6 месяцев назад +1

      They politicising most things like movies games sports!

  • @dieteresterbrook201
    @dieteresterbrook201 6 месяцев назад +65

    The ignorance of this generation is truly sad.

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin 6 месяцев назад

      The secondhand embarrassment I feel from this generation makes me feel physically ill.
      They are less intelligent, and way more socially awkward than the kids with actual developmental disorders in the special needs class of the high school I went to.

    • @hurtighansen1
      @hurtighansen1 6 месяцев назад +4

      Well, nothing new, but they all have these phones, now showing us how stupid humans really is.
      Alone that you pick on a generation there is more informed than your generation ever was, shows my point.
      Propaganda is powerful. Can reach anyone with a internet

    • @richardhockey8442
      @richardhockey8442 6 месяцев назад +1

      their ignorance and prejudices will be duly rewarded once they attempt to enter the realm of real world employment and discover the joys working as serving staff in fast food chains 'would you like fries with that?'

    • @Kalbuir66
      @Kalbuir66 6 месяцев назад

      @@hurtighansen1 They ARE NOT more informed, that is the problem. People are dumber than ever before. People hundreds of years ago wrote and spoke far more eloquently than young people today. You are right, propoganda is powerful and it's literally the only thing people today are taught. So, again, no this generation of 20-30 somethings is less informed than any generation in the last couple of centuries.

    • @ClifftopTragedy
      @ClifftopTragedy 6 месяцев назад +1

      It's only a small but noisy minority who are this ignorant. Don't lose too much faith in humanity. Society will be OK.

  • @Minerva-fp1zx
    @Minerva-fp1zx 7 месяцев назад +192

    Italians have requested that all non Italians give back our violins, thank you. Buonasera.

    • @alexscott1257
      @alexscott1257 7 месяцев назад +29

      Exactly! And while we're at it we'd better return all those triangles and tambourines to the Turkish!

    • @Ramberta
      @Ramberta 7 месяцев назад

      you don't get to do that unless you can undo colonization. (which you can't, so...)

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@alexscott1257 Add the bass drums to that list!

    • @jcortese3300
      @jcortese3300 7 месяцев назад +20

      And stop singing opera if you don't have a vowel at the end of your name.

    • @PedroOozeMan
      @PedroOozeMan 7 месяцев назад +12

      As a Mexican, I humbly apologize for appropriating the piñata from Italians

  • @KevinDunne-zc4or
    @KevinDunne-zc4or 6 месяцев назад +106

    Give me classical music over the self indulgent tripe that passes for music now,

    • @scipioafricanus5871
      @scipioafricanus5871 6 месяцев назад +1

      That is such a past-ist thing to say...

    • @jaycee30865
      @jaycee30865 6 месяцев назад +7

      Please do not insult tripe. Tripe is useful.

    • @KevinDunne-zc4or
      @KevinDunne-zc4or 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jaycee30865 spot on, 👌

    • @Peter-pv8xx
      @Peter-pv8xx 6 месяцев назад +3

      Amen!

    • @RM_VFX
      @RM_VFX 6 месяцев назад +2

      What do you mean, modern music is perfectly fine for selling soft drinks.

  • @polonium13
    @polonium13 6 месяцев назад +4

    It is always a pleasure to see an intelligent rebuke of this type of ignorant garbage.
    My compliments, Sir.

  • @murielgibbs1070
    @murielgibbs1070 6 месяцев назад +48

    The best way to cope with these idiots is to just ignore them. Your reactions fill them with delight and encourage them to say even more stupid things.

    • @PATISLAV
      @PATISLAV 6 месяцев назад +3

      I beg to differ, consider this: the truth in the future will be determined by AI and AI will source its knowledge by going through the data in the past made by humans, it is important that these lies have counterpart so the AI knows at least there is a stance against this BS

    • @williambarnes4612
      @williambarnes4612 6 месяцев назад

      Best comment ❤

    • @courtneymeehan504
      @courtneymeehan504 6 месяцев назад

      @@PATISLAV Best counterargument that I have heard yet! Well said, well said indeed.

  • @MichaelShingo
    @MichaelShingo 7 месяцев назад +253

    also the idea that all the classical composers were straight is laughable XD

    • @pawelpap9
      @pawelpap9 7 месяцев назад +45

      Some were, some were not. But what does it have to do with music?

    • @mrewan6221
      @mrewan6221 7 месяцев назад +17

      @@pawelpap9 It has nothing to do with music. But 1'38" is where the claim is made that all C18th composers were straight, along with a lot of other unsupported claims.

    • @canalesworks1247
      @canalesworks1247 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@mrewan6221 Mozart' main librettist da Ponte is thought to have been Gay. I've also heard some theories about Handel being bisexual.

    • @mrewan6221
      @mrewan6221 6 месяцев назад +22

      @@canalesworks1247 I am not interested in sexual orientation of composers, in the same way I'm not interested if they're right-handed, left-handed, or somewhere in between.
      I was merely clariying for @pawelpap9

    • @nunyabiznez6381
      @nunyabiznez6381 6 месяцев назад +7

      Maybe half of them were. My uncle was a 2nd violinist for a major symphony orchestra and he once said "I think I'm the only straight male in the room." This was part of a conversation he had with my mother about how a number of the male musicians had flirted with him at one time or other including the conductor who was also a composer.

  • @sirkuscustom
    @sirkuscustom 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you having Sibelius on banckground on the first part of the video❤️

  • @RabbiTuviaBolton
    @RabbiTuviaBolton 6 месяцев назад +41

    She's right!!! Why should there be MAJOR and MINOR scales?? And DIMINISHED chords??? And what about Black keys on the piano being SMALLLER??? Or even SHARPS and flats??? Imagine how bad the notes must feel when they aren't called sharp??

    • @bart-v
      @bart-v 6 месяцев назад +4

      That was sharp!

    • @gj8683
      @gj8683 6 месяцев назад +7

      And "flat"? Sounds suspiciously misogynistic.

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 6 месяцев назад +2

      Nice!

    • @granthurlburt4062
      @granthurlburt4062 6 месяцев назад +1

      Great post! Something I'd like to post.

    • @heatherwolmarans8287
      @heatherwolmarans8287 6 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @simonjz05
    @simonjz05 6 месяцев назад +147

    Remember. You can't fix stupid.

    • @catrinastars
      @catrinastars 6 месяцев назад +2

      amen

    • @darylhoskins919
      @darylhoskins919 6 месяцев назад +7

      One of the best descriptions of s leftist.

    • @rustybear5125
      @rustybear5125 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@darylhoskins919 I believe the comment was referring to you.

    • @RussiaisAriddle-ih6bg
      @RussiaisAriddle-ih6bg 6 месяцев назад

      @@darylhoskins919nah it's referring to magarats like you 😉

    • @quantumvideoscz2052
      @quantumvideoscz2052 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@rustybear5125 Bruh, the comment is about people who think classical music is racist. That IS dumb.

  • @valerieannrumpf4151
    @valerieannrumpf4151 6 месяцев назад +23

    I wonder if these people on tik tok realize that composers from the 18th and 19th centuries were the pop stars of their day.

  • @norbertschanne1943
    @norbertschanne1943 6 месяцев назад +31

    Joseph de Boulogne, a black French nobleman, composer, conductor at Paris Opera, and court musician at the French royal court around the time of the Revolution? George Bridgetower, British composer and violinist, for whom Beethoven composed the "Kreutzer Sonata". Scott Joplin, whose "Entertainer" almost every Piano student practises...

    • @mariaeddycesario3067
      @mariaeddycesario3067 6 месяцев назад +2

      19th century - here in Brasil, we had a great classic composer, called PadreJosé Maurício Nunes Garcia, "mulatto", of slave descent.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 6 месяцев назад +3

      I was reading about Joplin and was surprised to learn that roughly 75 percent of his creative influences were either European or Euro-American. So maybe ragtime wasn't quite "world" music, but it's clear that at least some ethnic non-Europeans were integrated into the Euro-American musical milieu.

  • @BruceTritton
    @BruceTritton 6 месяцев назад +44

    Keep in mind that another woman with the same mental acuity believed that air conditioning was sexist.

    • @steffenjonda8283
      @steffenjonda8283 6 месяцев назад +2

      yes, i saw this. It was amazing. Just because some work w"ores hate it to wear actual cloth... so funny.

    • @ChrisPar-r
      @ChrisPar-r 6 месяцев назад +2

      Air conditioning is set using measurements taking 1950s USA office workers who were predominately men in suits. I have experienced cold AC that my male colleagues found OK.

    • @steffenjonda8283
      @steffenjonda8283 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@ChrisPar-r well, wear more cloth, Problem solved

    • @Rai2M
      @Rai2M 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@ChrisPar-r "male colleagues"
      Can't say "men"?

    • @ChrisPar-r
      @ChrisPar-r 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Rai2M I didn't get that memo, I'm too old to be thought policed.

  • @twofarg0ne763
    @twofarg0ne763 6 месяцев назад +9

    "You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever." - Ron White

  • @ireneesch8555
    @ireneesch8555 6 месяцев назад +24

    The idiocy of some people is mind blowing.

    • @Queenfloofles
      @Queenfloofles 6 месяцев назад

      Indeed, she opened her mouth and proven nothing but the fact that she holds moronic views.

  • @alexscott1257
    @alexscott1257 7 месяцев назад +34

    Thanks for the video. It really annoys me when people talk about things that they know absolutely nothing about. I am not a gambling man but I would wager that woman has never played an instrument and if she did it was strictly bedroom practice only!

    • @ViolinMechanic
      @ViolinMechanic  7 месяцев назад +6

      Thanks for the comment. Most performers who play any style of music would argue the immense complexity of their genre.

    • @JasonsAccount15926
      @JasonsAccount15926 7 месяцев назад

      I guarantee that no one who has never trained in music even bothers to know about this argument

    • @erinrising2799
      @erinrising2799 6 месяцев назад +2

      I doubt she's even listened to classical music on the radio. I'm no musician, but I know she's full of it just from listening to the classical station all my life.

  • @joelahnstein2281
    @joelahnstein2281 6 месяцев назад +6

    She didn’t ‘think’, but merely opined, parroting others.

  • @donaldanderson6604
    @donaldanderson6604 7 месяцев назад +31

    In the Renaissance and Baroque eras, musicians were hired hands who were badly treated and struggled to make a living. They certainly weren't oppressing anyone . Mozart died in poverty and Bach just about made a living. Beethoven wasn't a rich man and neither was Schubert.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 6 месяцев назад +1

      Didn't Mozart die poor because he spent all his money, though?

    • @willardchi2571
      @willardchi2571 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SeasideDetective2 - Mozart did like to live well, but he failed to respect the the rich and powerful simply because they were rich and powerful. So he failed to attract wealthy patrons, died young, and was buried in potter's field.

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@willardchi2571 - Respect to Mozart for not kissing the behinds of the rich and powerful.

  • @Kunsoo1024
    @Kunsoo1024 6 месяцев назад +22

    I've heard the argument before. What people don't know is that in terms of participation, classical music is, by far, the most diverse genre. And classical music has never existed in a vacuum. It has been influenced by extra-European cultures from the beginning. Stringed instruments themselves originated in Asia. Today, any classical music program worth anything will teach about the classical music expressions of every continent - it's not stuck in time. There is modern classical music. As to sexual orientation, Tzaichovsky was gay. Handel was believed to be gay. There's a long list actually. And probably many more were closeted. There's a list of women composers dating back to the 16th century. There are black composers dating back to the 18th century. Mexico had a classical renaissance in the 19th century. I mean, I'm sorry her musical education was so ----- whitewashed!

  • @mrnobodieswildcampingadventure
    @mrnobodieswildcampingadventure 6 месяцев назад +2

    When I'm wild camping, on a mountain ridge, in storm, heavy snow fall conditions, classical music is my thing! It calms the inner me, and blanks out whatever is going on outside! Liked and subscribed

  • @stuartdryer1352
    @stuartdryer1352 7 месяцев назад +42

    "...mainly the music of 18th century......" well, the VERY first sentence is ignorant AF.

    • @pjbpiano
      @pjbpiano 6 месяцев назад +11

      She is a child. And kids these days are trained to be confident in their ignorance.

    • @stuartdryer1352
      @stuartdryer1352 6 месяцев назад +5

      @pjbpiano As a college professor, I can attest to this. I have to admit that it is possible that my own cohort, who were in college in the 70s, were equally ignorant. It's honestly hard to recall my own mindset when I was her age. I would never have said something that idiotic about music (being then and now a jazz fanatic), but maybe about other things?

    • @pjbpiano
      @pjbpiano 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@stuartdryer1352, personally, I am never confident about things I have not read up on or done at least a little research before commenting on a subject I am not an expert in.
      But I have noticed that many of the younger ones on social media, are very very confident and emotionally charged even when they know they have no idea what they are talking about.
      It is terrifying to watch.

    • @stuartdryer1352
      @stuartdryer1352 6 месяцев назад +6

      @pjbpiano I think so too. It is if we* are encouraging the Dunning-Kruger effect, in the name of... something? Is it social media? Something they are taught in school! I have no idea. Bear in mind that politically I certainly land a bit left of center, but this trend drives me crazy. * I use "we" without knowing who to blame.

    • @Bnio
      @Bnio 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@pjbpiano How does that saying go? "Hire young people while they still know everything."

  • @eddylloyd7413
    @eddylloyd7413 6 месяцев назад +39

    Do not even give her time of day.

  • @kimchikidbear
    @kimchikidbear 6 месяцев назад

    I have no idea how I fell onto this channel at all. But I really needed it because I love classical music but I felt like I was alone in that. Also, you’re giving me a deeper emotional connection with the history so I think you so much for that.

  • @Tomy_Yon
    @Tomy_Yon 7 месяцев назад +62

    Some people are just crazy. Ignore them.

    • @mickm7786
      @mickm7786 6 месяцев назад +2

      The trouble is that you can't ignore them because the minority is being listened to over the majority these days, The other day there was an article about one person complaining about the chiming of church bells and because of that one complaint the church bells had to be silenced at night.

    • @NineteenSpirits
      @NineteenSpirits 6 месяцев назад +2

      100%. Nobody listens to them, don't signal boost them.

    • @woodykusaki9970
      @woodykusaki9970 6 месяцев назад

      I don't think you can ignore them. The media itself is also pushing this agenda. The best to do is to point out how everyone disagrees with them and their logic is wrong.

    • @willardchi2571
      @willardchi2571 6 месяцев назад +1

      We have so many crazies in modern times, it's hard to ignore half the human race.

    • @Tomy_Yon
      @Tomy_Yon 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@willardchi2571 agreed.

  • @garybranch807
    @garybranch807 6 месяцев назад +10

    One of the greatest piano technicians in Vienna (the centre of the piano) in the early 19th century was a woman called Nanette Streicher, she was also a composer and a friend of Beethoven. Her influence was so important that the development of the piano has been influenced by her right up to the present day - enough said!

  • @wtfserpico
    @wtfserpico 6 месяцев назад +2

    The term "racist" has been so devalued that it now essentially means "anything an ignorant person dislikes".

  • @williamemily989
    @williamemily989 6 месяцев назад +15

    I always find if very hard to understand just how ignorant, ignorant people really are.

    • @colinstock325
      @colinstock325 6 месяцев назад

      You’re being kind. Ignorance implies lack of knowledge. Even with the knowledge, which is easy to Google, she wouldn’t change her mind. There’s a different word for that.

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 7 месяцев назад +21

    Given that the entire pop, rock, hiphop, RnB, etc etc genres are founded on the Western Classical tradition of the tonic-dominant tension, I'd like to see her diss all those other forms as well. Even Peruvian pan pipes draw from this tradition, if you want to include world music.
    And let's see her give a dissertation on various world music forms in depth in order to validate her claims.

    • @Ticketman99
      @Ticketman99 6 месяцев назад +1

      She probably doesn't even know what a bar is. A frickin' BAR

  • @MusicByAllonaMayost
    @MusicByAllonaMayost 6 месяцев назад +2

    She should look up Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de St Georges.

  • @timofejlagutin6851
    @timofejlagutin6851 7 месяцев назад +18

    thank you so much for your work! Let's show the beauty of classical music to as much people as possible! Very nice mission which I totally support!

  • @MissTwoSetEncyclopedia
    @MissTwoSetEncyclopedia 7 месяцев назад +37

    3:23 I'm new to your channel. Absolutely love it, but was really not prepared to hear you speak Russian. 😅
    (Я француженка но учила русский.)

    • @petrnovikov5169
      @petrnovikov5169 7 месяцев назад +7

      I am russian and was suprised myself

    • @moineten
      @moineten 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@petrnovikov5169 What did he say? (I don't understand Russian)

    • @rustemtnymkulov9116
      @rustemtnymkulov9116 7 месяцев назад +13

      @@moineten I’ve never heard anything this dumb before

    • @moineten
      @moineten 7 месяцев назад

      @@rustemtnymkulov9116 Thanks

  • @JosephB-tv7gf
    @JosephB-tv7gf 6 месяцев назад +1

    There is a brilliant talk about classical music in the film "Tar" by Cate Blanchet. Needless to say she was cancelled for it.

  • @BarEscm
    @BarEscm 6 месяцев назад +8

    This is a text book example of judging the past by today "standars" and thinking "How did not foresee these standards and act accordingly so that I am satisfied?"

    • @timriehl1500
      @timriehl1500 6 месяцев назад

      Amen. I am so beyond tired of this and relieved that sane people are calling out this nonsense

  • @PetulaGuimaraes
    @PetulaGuimaraes 7 месяцев назад +23

    Some black and female composers did exist, as well as gay composers. It’s really annoying though when people try to interpret the past through the lenses of the present. It’s just not a sound approach.

    • @Ihatepinkfloyd82
      @Ihatepinkfloyd82 6 месяцев назад +2

      Also todays composers can not be blamed for beeing white or straight. And still it is not possible or necessary to include every culture in the world into a musicians work.

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Ihatepinkfloyd82 - That's partly what's insidious: Why on earth would blaming anyone for their skin tone and sexuality be a good thing today? It applies to everyone. Or it's yet another form of bigotry and hatred dressed up and sold as Progressive.

  • @victorias9521
    @victorias9521 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video, great to hear the perspective of a musician. Plus the little comments in Russian made my day 😊

  • @WilliamSpoehr
    @WilliamSpoehr 7 месяцев назад +22

    Could it be that western people are taught western classical music because it's their culture?

  • @kantimakan4056
    @kantimakan4056 6 месяцев назад +21

    While I do not “understand” classical music, I have been listening to it for the past 60 years and more. Without it my life would have been deprived of one of my greatest enjoyment. Her emphasis on DEI is incomprehensible and in fact disgusting. By the way lady, Western classical music goes back many centuries before the 18th century.

    • @SolomonKane71
      @SolomonKane71 6 месяцев назад

      This is not DEI. DEI is about equality of opportunity. She is about putting your thumb on the scales and forcing equality of outcome.

    • @kylemenos
      @kylemenos 6 месяцев назад

      @@SolomonKane71 I know you mean well but it is in fact DEI. DEI is derived from CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion notice how it says Equity in the the abbreviation. Diversity introduce a victim. Equity show how they are less wealthy or powerful. Inclusion give them the wealth or power of others to equalise the balance. Follow that step until you are the lions share of power and wealth with absolutely no qualifications for the job you are in.

    • @kantimakan4056
      @kantimakan4056 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SolomonKane71 D in DEI normally means “Equity” and it essentially leads to the same conclusion as yours…ie. equality of “Outcome” for all. Irrespective of a person’s skill, talent, hard work, persistence and all other factors that lead anyone with these qualities to succeed.

    • @SolomonKane71
      @SolomonKane71 6 месяцев назад

      @@kantimakan4056 I doubt you have ready any DEI training material, but what I have read does not call for forced outcomes.

    • @courtneymeehan504
      @courtneymeehan504 6 месяцев назад

      @@SolomonKane71 Sorry but @kantimakan4056 is correct, DEI is about forcing equality of outcome.

  • @leethomas2155
    @leethomas2155 6 месяцев назад +1

    I want printed on my gravestone... "To all future generations... Good luck. I'm glad I'm not here with you!"

  • @therealmusen
    @therealmusen 7 месяцев назад +56

    As a black violinist, it was interesting to hear her arguments
    Also I love your videos and I agree with you ☺️
    I did some researches and there was black composers in the history like Joseph Bologne for example
    And I truly think that classical music isn't racist or anything, especially today, when everybody can appreciate it 😌

    • @ankavoskuilen1725
      @ankavoskuilen1725 7 месяцев назад +10

      I didn't hear any arguments, just the usual buzz words and catch phrases.
      They use the same words every time.
      They can also explain how the dustbin is racist and the heron, just by using the same words again and again.
      Frankly I am quite tired of it.

    • @philipmcniel4908
      @philipmcniel4908 7 месяцев назад +5

      I'll bet she has no idea that Beethoven originally wrote his most famous (and many would say best) violin sonata--that is, the Kreutzer sonata--for a black violinist named George Bridgetower...

    • @charlytaylor1748
      @charlytaylor1748 6 месяцев назад

      @@philipmcniel4908 Good point. Also Samuel Coleridge-Taylor

    • @jean-louispech4921
      @jean-louispech4921 6 месяцев назад +1

      From my source there was 3 blacks composers.
      Given the rareté of Black or mixed peoples among nobles and bourgeois in Europe at this time, it is a good number.

    • @stevebrown3559
      @stevebrown3559 6 месяцев назад +1

      I was going to mention Coleridge-Taylor, but I was beaten to it! Still, there was William Grant Still, Florence Price, Scott Joplin... Then you have the black opera singers like Matian Anderson, Jessye Norman, and Leontyne Price, black musicians like Andre Watts, Wynton Marsalis, and Henry Lewis. The English composer Frederick Delius incorporated "negro melodies" into his 1897 opera, 'Koanga'...

  • @Roheryn100
    @Roheryn100 6 месяцев назад +10

    0:53 And she said this with a straight face. 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
    Amazing.

  • @ericlestick7325
    @ericlestick7325 6 месяцев назад +1

    We should take note of people who say such things.
    Then make them stay away.

  • @sachaehn4924
    @sachaehn4924 7 месяцев назад +39

    Classical music is absolutely enchanting.
    Is Yoyo Ma racist too?

    • @Guzunderstrop
      @Guzunderstrop 7 месяцев назад +6

      Or Jessye Norman, or Willard White, or Yuja Wang...

    • @patrickols
      @patrickols 6 месяцев назад +3

      She as no idea who they are

    • @tonyharpur8383
      @tonyharpur8383 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Guzunderstropyour mention of the glorious Jessaye Norman took the words out of my mouth! Thank you! 😊

    • @jaycee30865
      @jaycee30865 6 месяцев назад

      He is in the klan. Down in TN.

    • @ericaeli3807
      @ericaeli3807 6 месяцев назад +3

      No but yo mama might be for saying classical music is racist.

  • @nozominozomi3213
    @nozominozomi3213 6 месяцев назад +17

    I wait researching “Racism in Bach's fugues”.

    • @musicalme27
      @musicalme27 6 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @willardchi2571
      @willardchi2571 6 месяцев назад +2

      But if you play his Cantatas backward, you could might hear hidden messages.

    • @Ticketman99
      @Ticketman99 6 месяцев назад

      And "Fascism in Bach's passacaglias"?😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TheGrayfrog100
    @TheGrayfrog100 6 месяцев назад +1

    Well said. A beautifully well balanced rebuttal to her very unbalanced statements. I am now subscribing to you channel as well. .

  • @jarenka3335
    @jarenka3335 7 месяцев назад +15

    When she talks about lack of "world music" she seem to forget that you need dedicated specialists to teach this and this. Conservatory in my city, Kazan, teach its students Turkic and Central Asian music, because our region has close cultural ties with these musical traditions, so our conservatory have musicians who specialises in these types of music. But they can't teach Brazilian or Indian music even if they want it. Musicians won't just appear in their rooms.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 6 месяцев назад +2

      Most people in our society weren't exposed to "world" music until the emergence of the popular folk music genre in the 1950s at the earliest, or maybe Harry Belafonte's calypso toward the end of that decade. (For that matter, prior to the Works Progress Administration's anthropological projects in the '30s, most white Americans had never even heard of blues music.) But the Beatles and Led Zeppelin were the ones who truly brought "exotic" music into the mainstream, along with Ravi Shankar (one of the Beatles' influences). The sad fact is that for a long time many countries simply didn't have recording studios, and people from countries that did just didn't travel much.
      I'm dismayed, though, that Spain and the Balkans are apparently countries of "the world" rather than Europe. Most people living in those lands would disagree. I'll admit that they were ruled by non-European empires for hundreds of years, but the colonizers never succeeded in stamping out the native cultures. And while those countries are (or used to be) at the European periphery both geographically and culturally, they are permeated by Western influences, being basically Christian (even in Albania, Muslims have only a bare majority) and populated by humans who are, more or less, racially indistinguishable from "pure" Europeans (whatever that means).

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@SeasideDetective2In the 18th century, people were much less connected to other parts of the world. Places a couple hundred miles away were considered “exotic”, even if they had common cultural roots.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 6 месяцев назад

      @@evilsharkey8954 I suppose that's true. Even modern-day people leading sheltered lives tend to think that way. Especially children, for when I was about seven years old and lived in a (relatively) small town, I thought big cities were exotic. And I lived in California, so I thought of Oregon as exotic.

  • @smithmusicstudies
    @smithmusicstudies 7 месяцев назад +31

    I knew you brought this on yourself when you said, "I was scrolling through tik tok the other day."

    • @ankavoskuilen1725
      @ankavoskuilen1725 7 месяцев назад +13

      People should never scroll on TikTok, not if they want to keep their sanity.

    • @alhfgsp
      @alhfgsp 7 месяцев назад +9

      His only mistake really. 😂

    • @stewartkingsley
      @stewartkingsley 7 месяцев назад

      Tik Tok is toxic!

  • @PollyFoxParanormal
    @PollyFoxParanormal 6 месяцев назад +2

    Oh I hope she sees this. She'll be so pissed! 😂

  • @X10Bombs
    @X10Bombs 7 месяцев назад +27

    3:23 I was kind of surprised when he started speaking Russian

    • @chanaheszter168
      @chanaheszter168 6 месяцев назад +3

      Nah, it was obvious.

    • @X10Bombs
      @X10Bombs 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@chanaheszter168 Wait does he actually speak Russian or did he just pretend to? I could hear some kind of accent

    • @chanaheszter168
      @chanaheszter168 6 месяцев назад +7

      @X10Bombs His intonation in English has a very slight variation that tipped me off that it's not his mother tongue. So, yes, he's a Russian speaker.

    • @moebarragan1681
      @moebarragan1681 6 месяцев назад +4

      His English is pretty amazing if he is not a native English speaker.

    • @s.s.d4834
      @s.s.d4834 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@moebarragan1681 as a Russian I can say that Russian language is definitely not his native. 5:19 - case endings are incorrect and there's hard accent, native would never say it this way

  • @charlesphelps2730
    @charlesphelps2730 6 месяцев назад +23

    When Dvorak went to America, He incorporated black spirituals in his 9th symphony.

  • @harryfyhr4010
    @harryfyhr4010 6 месяцев назад +2

    Everytime someone uses the word "cis," they've lost the argument.

  • @vincentsouchaud6717
    @vincentsouchaud6717 6 месяцев назад +7

    A fine example of the level of intelligence of a cultural maxist.

  • @vidarjuselius1188
    @vidarjuselius1188 7 месяцев назад +16

    Hold on so classical music is racist, because the people who wrote were the same gender as they were born as, white, and male.
    Those are three things that they cannot change about themselves, and saying that every cis white male is racist is, PER DEFINITION, racist

    • @moineten
      @moineten 7 месяцев назад +5

      I agree. Besides, it isn't even like all composers fit that stereotype-

  • @annamossity8879
    @annamossity8879 6 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t have tik tok, thank goodness! It appears to simply be a fools stage. Wonder how they’ll feel about their ignorance being “on stage” forever?! I imagine many of these people will grow and see things differently in the future. How utterly embarrassing!

  • @Fidi987
    @Fidi987 7 месяцев назад +30

    It is either racism or composers were culturally appropriating other people's musical styles. Pick one. Can't win.

    • @canalesworks1247
      @canalesworks1247 6 месяцев назад +5

      It's meant for classical music to "not win" because it hurts their tiny little brains.

    • @finosuilleabhain7781
      @finosuilleabhain7781 6 месяцев назад

      Cultural appropriation was practiced at one time or another by Scott Joplin, Duke Ellington, Robert Johnson, Paul Robeson, Miles Davis, Leontine Pryce, Jimi Hendrix, Ali Farka Toure and indeed just about every major musical figure of colour you care to think of. It's a silly, silly argument; music just doesn't work that way, never has and never will.

    • @kenthomas2427
      @kenthomas2427 6 месяцев назад +4

      I don't understand how the crowd that once praised the role of cultural influence and the impact it has in overcoming racism has all of sudden started calling it appropriation and saying it is itself racism. Pick one.

  • @silviabruznican2185
    @silviabruznican2185 7 месяцев назад +12

    Boulanger sisters left the chat

    • @bart-v
      @bart-v 6 месяцев назад +4

      and Clara Schumann, and Germaine Taillerferre, and Fanny Mendelssohn, and Alma Mahler, and Sofia Gubaidulina, and... (shall I go on?)

  • @BeethovenboyProductions
    @BeethovenboyProductions 6 месяцев назад +1

    These are great arguments you put forth. I do think though that both of these arguments can co-exist. Her argument is misstated, it would make more sense if she said something along the lines of "the programming of classical music in the educational realm is racist" or "promotes racial supremacy" might have a bit more weight and could reasonably be argued.

  • @AquaFX
    @AquaFX 7 месяцев назад +40

    Just my two cents:
    0:52: "cis straight white male composers":
    Disagreed, if I had lived in the 18th century in Europe, I would be too scared to be openly "not straight". I can imagine that most people back then were. Tchaikovsky was a "non-straight" composer, -and maybe even Chopin as well (He wrote love-letters to his friend Tytus Woyciechowski).-
    2:41: "no class requirement for world music":
    Agreed, but I think that world music doesn't (necessarily) need a formal class. A foundation in Western harmony helps you learn it later. Also, Pianos are limited by tuning (like 12 equal temperament), making some "world music" (like Arabic 17 ET) trickier/impossible to play. There's a great 44-minute-long video by Adam Neely called "Music Theory and White Supremacy" that dives deeper!

    • @Marklar3
      @Marklar3 7 месяцев назад +8

      Neely's video had a lot of good historical substance, but in the first few days that video was up, it was called "Music Theory is Racist", which is likely correlated with how this TikToker came to her conclusions.

    • @MichaelShingo
      @MichaelShingo 7 месяцев назад

      also Copland and Bernstein lol

    • @coby.t
      @coby.t 7 месяцев назад +1

      I guess chopin just had weird taste in women firstly he chose an ugly girl and then he chose a girl who wore dude clothes so yeah weird taste

    • @OsakaJoe01
      @OsakaJoe01 7 месяцев назад

      Why do we have to know who the composers are shagging? Because people compose with their genitals? 🙄

    • @Shtikface
      @Shtikface 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@coby.tCan I assume that the "ugly" girl was the one with a called off engagement?

  • @denisSeptum
    @denisSeptum 7 месяцев назад +9

    ахахахахах, я только со второго раза понял что это больше не английский.
    that's actually so cool that you put in the russian words too, that brought a lot more comments with it

    • @ViolinMechanic
      @ViolinMechanic  7 месяцев назад +5

      Я выбираю русские слова когда мой мозг уже не думает😂

  • @alanclarkeau
    @alanclarkeau 6 месяцев назад +1

    My Classical Radio station insists on promulgating "Contemporary Classics".
    I'm glad my radio has an OFF switch.

    • @courtneymeehan504
      @courtneymeehan504 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, mine too but it is run by NPR so that is not a surprise. Thank God for YT and Spotify.

  • @johnsmith-de3tl
    @johnsmith-de3tl 6 месяцев назад +4

    all i got was that she didn't want to study classical music in school so she wants it gone from the requirements.

    • @Fickji
      @Fickji 6 месяцев назад

      Sounds like she wants to end racism by adding more cultural appropriation. So then she can have new things to be bitterly angry about.
      They are never satisfied until they burn down the whole music hall and put up a sign in the ashes that says "we ended racism". Just a sign, nothing actually helpful or hopeful.

  • @staugalot
    @staugalot 7 месяцев назад +9

    How about the influence of Turkish music on European composers like Mozart and Beethoven? And why are so many of the top classical performers today Asian?

    • @michaelmusterer7066
      @michaelmusterer7066 6 месяцев назад

      Good point I was just thinking of that myself, it kind of disproves her goofy little theory doesn't it. But now you're getting into cultural appropriation now right, you just can't win with these idiots

  • @santosd6065
    @santosd6065 6 месяцев назад

    Wow. I was not expecting to love this video as much as I did, thank you!

  • @nedludd7622
    @nedludd7622 7 месяцев назад +4

    Richard Stauss's opera "The Silent Woman" was banned by Hitler

  • @person7587
    @person7587 7 месяцев назад +10

    Cis men? Tchaikovsky be like...

  • @moominpic
    @moominpic 6 месяцев назад +1

    So if I was studying Chinese classical music, or theatre, would I have to learn about 20thc jazz?

  • @irenelavinesia8764
    @irenelavinesia8764 7 месяцев назад +6

    Of course there have been very few female or poc composer until the 20th century, and even before that, classical music in the west (talking from the Latin American perspective during the Colonization/New Spain era) have existed, we have composers from that era, and even if it was influenced by European music, they added elements from their own contry. So that's why Classical Music is so cool, it has a long history of adaptation to any ocassion and stage and I have found to be very versatile. It is for everyone and has evolved to be open for everyone for this day.
    (I apologize if I made any mistake, English is my second language)

    • @papillon5839
      @papillon5839 7 месяцев назад

      That's not true and you're again spreading an agenda without checking facts. There have been just as much female as male composers since the beginning of the time, they have just not been mentioned as much (since women had a different kind of job to do) or it was a male composers name written on their work (see Felix Mendelssohn and his sister)

  • @billtomson5791
    @billtomson5791 7 месяцев назад +8

    Lately I've been "recolonizing" my mind with some chamber music by Brahms, Schubert, Schumann and Mendelssohn, and thoroughly enjoying it.

  • @marcosbadia1309
    @marcosbadia1309 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yes, she has reason! Is important to make a renovation.

  • @liahelbereth7258
    @liahelbereth7258 7 месяцев назад +9

    „Straight“ *certain russian composers enter the chat*