I have tom to thank for me discovering xcp-ng. I've used every hypervisor and I have to say this is by far my favourite, it's free, and just plain awesome as far as features go.
I would recommend running Xen Orchestra in a Docker container instead of natively since there is no point it running it all of the time and you can double up having more management containers run at the same time on the system such as True Command to manage your FreeNAS servers as well.
Congratulation Tom, You literally made me switch from proxmox to XCP-NG & Xen Orchestra that networking totally sold me. Thanks a lot. Please make more videos regarding XCP-NG.
Why? I found proxmox is better solution that allow you even create containers not only vms, and run more upgrade more easily, seem this XCP-ng is very early release, how can you trust it?
but why does it cost to get the good features? We go from the open source concept with XCP-ng with a lot of cool features built in that trump Citrix Hypervisor, to trying to manage it with a cool interface (XOA) that costs an arm and a leg and then, oh by the way, we get the people selling Orchestra telling us that XCP-ng Center is not going to be supported and to try to sway us to Orchestra and pay for it. What am I missing here? or am I not getting the right info?
another great vid, my VMUG license runs out in a month and I'll probably be switching over to XCP-NG, I don't really need the features of VCenter or VMware and would rather not pay another $200 for home lab use.
Thanks for the informative video; been using XCP a while and picked up on a few protips; thanks. Followed video a bit back on building Xen from source. It works out nice doing delta backups to NAS and NAS to Google Drive encrypted with Duplicati. Thanks!
23:50 Would love a quick tutorial just around the Private Networks and enabling the SDN Controller. My installation from sources, even though had all plugins selected, half of them are disabled by default requiring configuration. I'm taking the lazy route regarding the SDN controller and it should in practice just create the certificates by itself with just a simple path, but it doesn't.
Hi, I would like to set this up can you give suggestions on the hardware spec and the best places to purchase. Looking to Virtualize 8 PC's plus FreeNAS. Looking for the sweet spot on price vs performance vs energy cost. Dell 710 vs 720 vs 730 and which processors make the most sense. Thanks.
Hi, would it be possible for you to do a video on how to enable HTTPS for Xen Orchestra, please? I think I remember you mentioning on another video that you set it up on your lab network using an Apache proxy, but it would be helpful for me (and probably other people too) if you could provide a tutorial on that process. I recently moved from using XCP-ng Center to Xen Orchestra for managing my home lab, but I haven't yet gone through the process of securing it with HTTPS. I know it's easy to mess things up when it comes to security, so I'm worried about messing some configuration up. Thanks!
Even though VMware is crazy expensive, ESXI and vCenter still the best virtualization product out there for enterprise. I've tested this and no, its not better than VMware.
I like Toms videos - I learned plenty - I run a pfsense BSD firewall and Do camera stuff and linux stuff. The only thing is, he thinks Detroit Coneys are better than Flints. :)
Lets say that i have a Dell PowerEdge R720XD that i purposed it for FreeNAS on bare metal - no HV. Thing is: i want to run a Windows VM with GPU pass through in order to use it with Adobe suite as a remote rendering server suite. Can it really be done via the virtualization options in FreeNAS? Or should i first install a HV such as VmWare (better documented process for use scenario)? Can it be done with XCP-NG & Xen Orchestra?
Also the FreeNAS is a production NAS with 10Gbps LAN. Long story short i want with only one machine to accomplish both objectives (NAS Tank + VM Renderer)
This is not a beginner Tutorial - this tutorial was not step by step but rather unorganized steps and for someone with prior experience with XOA. You should do a little more organization like step 1, step2 and what is the end goal etc. thanks
Tom, I notice you say the VLANs aren't handled by your firewall, pfsense, and instead are managed within your switches. Does this still allow internet access. I currently have a ISP router that doesn't support VLAN setup so I am wondering what will happen if I just setup a vlan in a switch. Thanks and great video.
Good deal, I didn't do that and spent about 10 minutes looking for the options that you were using, they appeared after I registered. Just wanted to save anyone doing it the same way some time, thanks for the video!
Nice video as always. I d like to ask here too (since none give me a sufficient answer to that as many times I have asked before in any forum). Why setting up VLAN - specifically here to be used by pfsense, since you could just passthrough to Pfsense a dedicated NIC (probably 1/4 if it is possible) and have the h/w directly seen by the firewall. Same goes for other VM's like a WinSever which obviously will be running AD, DNS, DHCP ..etc. Wont making vlans upon the same nic saturate it? (Ok here I think its a 10g) but what if it was only 1gbit Thank you
Deploying a default VM for XO is setting 2 cpu and 2Gb max. How to increase that VM cpu and ram to higher before XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater? I'm really stuck at that step. Thanks
Hi, I follow your videos with a lot of interest, I only ask you a courtesy, if you could spell the words a little more and speak slower it would be much appreciated, I listen to you from Italy and often I find it difficult to understand even slowing down the video at 0.75x. Thanks great job.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS SORRY no intension to advertise, what solution i have instead to use xcp-ng for small business with no charge, thank you for your reply
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS The script checks, and if it isn't 8 or 9 it exits. I suppose I could attempt to change that too. I put in a Git pull request for your fork from mine for a different issue I was running into. Now that I'm past that it just keeps saying waiting for port to be open and exits without setting anything up. This is on Ubuntu 16.04 server... and I've completely disabled the firewall to see if that would help. No joy.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Just tried Debian 10, your fork script does not seem to work. Fixed OS check to support Deb 10. Fails on first yarn curl during Autoinstall. Nevermind... Found the issue. I was using your fork. The original from ronivay seems to be updated.
Hey Tom, I am a VMware user and tried XCP today. No local storage found after installation, therefore no chance to install Xen Orchestra or even a small VM for testing. Looks like I am stuck with VMware. I used a 500 GB for installation and a 1 TB drive. Only storage I got on the XCP Client was my DVD Rom.
how did you go about defining the separate location for the O/S (500) and the 1TB for the data drive? How did you distinguish that during the XCP-ng installation? Also, a separate question, Is VMware free at this juncture? Do they still have ESXi concepts? If anyone could chime in and tell me what's the better solution for one Hypervisor each in two separate buildings and needing fail-over (High-Availability) using iSCSI or other? So again, a total of just two hypervisors, with each hypervisor needing to run the same two VM's (those VMs are what are needing to remain up if one building goes down, the other building keeps those two VM's running)
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS I didnt get the message in time... ended up deleteing my whole server and starting out fresh with xcp-ng lol... might have to change my production server from proxmox too. I think I like it better already. Also you have more tutorials to follow with xcp... Honestly, amazing videos very informative. Now to get my dell r510, qnap nass, home network, and home video survalance system up and running... along with pfsense. Thx Again for all you do for the community!
hi guys we are having some network interface issues in the installation. Can not find an interface but we are running an Asus sega 2 motherboards with intel nic, the latest one. Could you please give us some suggestion?
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Sorry i am a humble newb, but recently tried to figure out what i should learn (outside of esxi) and all signs pointed to KVM. Did i fall for marketing??
If you have 2 hosts / servers in XOA and you reboot the one that is "hosting" XOA VM will XOA automatically transfer to the other host and stay running?
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS yes i tried but it always tells me i dont have enough space but i have 46GB disk where xcp-ng is fresh installed. How to get past this?
Hi Lawrence. Do you know of anyway to add an ext4 disk through Xen Orchestra with more than 2TB? we are in the 2021 so i was expecting for this to work which is not the case. at least not through Xen Orchestra... i found a way to do it through CLI on a VLM, but not as EXT... Is this normal that such a simple task isn't possible to be done through Xen Orchestra? Adding the storage is not a problem, i can pick the 3.7TB with no issues, it's only when i try to add a new disk to the VM that the error occurs. PS: thanks for your videos :)
No, from a storage design standpoint I don't put it all as a VM. I build VM's for the operating systems and have large storage mapped to a proper storage server.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Well, my 3.7TB is not an external storage but its an hardware RAID 6 volume running on the phisical server. I have like: 128gb ssd running xcp-ng 500gb ssd running my VMs (vms and vmdk) and the raid6 3.7TB disk As i said, i was able to add the volume as a storage in xcp-ng through orchestra, what it is not possible to do in orchestra is to add that storage as a single EXT4 3.7TB disk into a VM (my file VM server) I manage to add it as a LVM through CLI but not as a EXT4... was hopping you would have an answer for what commands i could use to get this thing working... anyway, thanks for getting back to me. Apreciate all your videos, thanks for the time you put on those..
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Tom, Is it possible to passthrough GPU and use a separate monitor/keyb/mouse for ie windows 10 normal station? So you can have in one VM a full FreeNAS server, windows VM machine and maybe run a couple of dockers in another VM .. and all in one machine.
Well, coming from Vmware ESXi, I tried this product but it is way from being a finished product. I have too many issues working from the iPMI console of my super micro server unable to match some of the keys of my French keyboard and why the heck do we have to struggle to create a local repository and populate it while it is so easy using Vmware Vsphere? It should be straight forward within the web UI: create a local repo, open this repo and upload files all in the web ui, this sucks too much to be adopted. I am going back to ESXi.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS One example, after installing xoa with quick deploy, there is no "new" link at the bottom of the left side menu. I'm seeing if I can download the older version you have so I can follow along with your tutorial. Thanks for asking. I appreciate you posting the tutorials.
Proxmox has LX Containers which are much more lightweight, and easier/faster to deploy than vms. There are even prebuild apps containers from Turnkey - gitlab, jenkins, Nextcloud and many more. Proxmox is also based on Debian which means you can run it on almost everything.
@@180doman I've been using Proxmox since I started using VMs seriously about two years ago. I do love the LXCs but Proxmox has become a pain lately. So I'm now testing out xcp-ng. I tested it before based on Tom's suggestion but Proxmox was simply easier and just worked. Now... not so much.
@@AllenSampsell I also had some more troubles with proxx lately but it was mainly with its 6.0.x versions - LOT of problems with containers which cant be start or stop or cloned. But most of them gone with upgrading to 6.1.x. Offcourse im talking about some testing/ experimenting environment because you should never upgrade your core machines with new major version until it "settles down" a bit. Or when you dont relly need it - my home server is still running 5.4 and im not going to upgrade it soon :D
*Vsphere 7 gets realeased*
VmWare: We've changed our pricing models.
Tom: Hey kids, want to learn how to do your home lab and have backups for free?
vmware also made a ton of cpu's obsolete for esxi. I say screw them. Im going xcp-ng
I'm addicted to this channel
me too, he's awesome!
Yeah...I’d like him to include those resources like the spreadsheet and the draw.io file
I have tom to thank for me discovering xcp-ng. I've used every hypervisor and I have to say this is by far my favourite, it's free, and just plain awesome as far as features go.
Great to hear!
BEST video of the MONTH! Thanks Tom!
Thank you
I would recommend running Xen Orchestra in a Docker container instead of natively since there is no point it running it all of the time and you can double up having more management containers run at the same time on the system such as True Command to manage your FreeNAS servers as well.
Can you link a tutorial for this? So 1bare metal = XCP-NG-Server , FreeNAS and other?
Tom literally I have been wanting to do this forever. Thank you!
Congratulation Tom, You literally made me switch from proxmox to XCP-NG & Xen Orchestra that networking totally sold me. Thanks a lot. Please make more videos regarding XCP-NG.
I have them all here lawrence.technology/xcp-ng-and-xen-orchestra-tutorials/
Why? I found proxmox is better solution that allow you even create containers not only vms, and run more upgrade more easily, seem this XCP-ng is very early release, how can you trust it?
@@XDavidT5 proxmox was killing my ssd for that reason I moved from everything to esxi
The interface of Xen Orchestra looks a lot easier to use than the Proxmox equivalent, especially dealing with networking and vlans.
but why does it cost to get the good features? We go from the open source concept with XCP-ng with a lot of cool features built in that trump Citrix Hypervisor, to trying to manage it with a cool interface (XOA) that costs an arm and a leg and then, oh by the way, we get the people selling Orchestra telling us that XCP-ng Center is not going to be supported and to try to sway us to Orchestra and pay for it. What am I missing here? or am I not getting the right info?
You can self compile and self support the full XO for free
But Proxmox supports more Hardware.
I've been running XCP-NG on a Watchguard XTM800 firewall hardware... for about 1 year. all good :)
the networking part was very helpful, thanks tom
another great vid, my VMUG license runs out in a month and I'll probably be switching over to XCP-NG, I don't really need the features of VCenter or VMware and would rather not pay another $200 for home lab use.
Thanks for the informative video; been using XCP a while and picked up on a few protips; thanks. Followed video a bit back on building Xen from source. It works out nice doing delta backups to NAS and NAS to Google Drive encrypted with Duplicati. Thanks!
Thank you for the walk-thru, demo and info. It helped me setup and migrate from vmware to xen. Have a great day
you use the same slack notification sound as I do, took me a while to figure it out at 34:39 :D
23:50 Would love a quick tutorial just around the Private Networks and enabling the SDN Controller.
My installation from sources, even though had all plugins selected, half of them are disabled by default requiring configuration.
I'm taking the lazy route regarding the SDN controller and it should in practice just create the certificates by itself with just a simple path, but it doesn't.
Hi, I would like to set this up can you give suggestions on the hardware spec and the best places to purchase. Looking to Virtualize 8 PC's plus FreeNAS. Looking for the sweet spot on price vs performance vs energy cost. Dell 710 vs 720 vs 730 and which processors make the most sense. Thanks.
This seems much more put together than what I've seen with Proxmox.
I think Proxmox is a good platform but XCP-NG is a much more scalable solution.
Yet again a nice video about XCP-NG and now with networking. Keep up the superb work Tom!
Random learning moment. Never new how to download a file into Linux. Wget then URL.. nice. Haha. Windows guy here but learning! Thanks!
Hi, would it be possible for you to do a video on how to enable HTTPS for Xen Orchestra, please? I think I remember you mentioning on another video that you set it up on your lab network using an Apache proxy, but it would be helpful for me (and probably other people too) if you could provide a tutorial on that process. I recently moved from using XCP-ng Center to Xen Orchestra for managing my home lab, but I haven't yet gone through the process of securing it with HTTPS. I know it's easy to mess things up when it comes to security, so I'm worried about messing some configuration up. Thanks!
Thanks, Tom, great info!
Just subscribed ❤.
Even though VMware is crazy expensive, ESXI and vCenter still the best virtualization product out there for enterprise. I've tested this and no, its not better than VMware.
I disagree with you.
Thank you so much Tom!
I like Toms videos - I learned plenty - I run a pfsense BSD firewall and Do camera stuff and linux stuff. The only thing is, he thinks Detroit Coneys are better than Flints. :)
As long as they are from Lafayette Coney Island, they are better.
Excellent tutorial. ;D
It hasn't even been posted for a minute, how would you know. Lol
@@turbo2ltr was waiting for this. Because all toms videos are for one. For two hes covered xen-o alot.😁
@@Willpowerpcs I won't disagree. :)
Could you show how to set up a zfs local mirror?
Lets say that i have a Dell PowerEdge R720XD that i purposed it for FreeNAS on bare metal - no HV. Thing is: i want to run a Windows VM with GPU pass through in order to use it with Adobe suite as a remote rendering server suite. Can it really be done via the virtualization options in FreeNAS? Or should i first install a HV such as VmWare (better documented process for use scenario)? Can it be done with XCP-NG & Xen Orchestra?
Also the FreeNAS is a production NAS with 10Gbps LAN. Long story short i want with only one machine to accomplish both objectives (NAS Tank + VM Renderer)
Do you recommend the installation of "Supplemental packs"?
This is not a beginner Tutorial - this tutorial was not step by step but rather unorganized steps and for someone with prior experience with XOA. You should do a little more organization like step 1, step2 and what is the end goal etc. thanks
Great work
Tom, I notice you say the VLANs aren't handled by your firewall, pfsense, and instead are managed within your switches. Does this still allow internet access. I currently have a ISP router that doesn't support VLAN setup so I am wondering what will happen if I just setup a vlan in a switch. Thanks and great video.
You have to register before the options he is showing are available!
That is not true when you follow this video and build from source.
Good deal, I didn't do that and spent about 10 minutes looking for the options that you were using, they appeared after I registered. Just wanted to save anyone doing it the same way some time, thanks for the video!
Nice video as always. I d like to ask here too (since none give me a sufficient answer to that as many times I have asked before in any forum). Why setting up VLAN - specifically here to be used by pfsense, since you could just passthrough to Pfsense a dedicated NIC (probably 1/4 if it is possible) and have the h/w directly seen by the firewall.
Same goes for other VM's like a WinSever which obviously will be running AD, DNS, DHCP ..etc. Wont making vlans upon the same nic saturate it? (Ok here I think its a 10g) but what if it was only 1gbit
Thank you
@27:25 - when adding a nic to a VM, does xcp-ng use the PIFs-Device or the PIFs-Network ?
Could XOA be similar to the Archipel orchestration project that was active some years back??
You seem to have skipped where you added the XCP-NG server to XOA?
It's under settings and then servers.
Is there any books on XCP-NG. I noticed there was a kickstarter back in 2018 to make one.
It's possible create all this estructure with xcp-ng center?
Deploying a default VM for XO is setting 2 cpu and 2Gb max. How to increase that VM cpu and ram to higher before XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater? I'm really stuck at that step. Thanks
Hi Lawrence, very good video, i'm wondering for activate SDN controller featuring with VXLAN, should we need to buy the XOA license ?
It should work fine with the open source version.
Hi, I follow your videos with a lot of interest, I only ask you a courtesy, if you could spell the words a little more and speak slower it would be much appreciated, I listen to you from Italy and often I find it difficult to understand even slowing down the video at 0.75x. Thanks great job.
can I access to GPU for mining or using GPU for processing images inside a VM using XEN?
Does XOA have to be up 24/7 or just to actively make changes?
Only to make changes or run backups.
OMG! What great video Thanks Tom
How well do the conversion utilities work with taking hyper-v and VMWARE VM’s into XCP-np?
Not sure, I use cloning software instead ruclips.net/video/wSTk9BLwF5k/видео.html
do you run PFSENSE in this server or do you prefer separate hardware for pfsense
Netgate hardware
How did you make the web page
Hi Lawrence, can i use backups in xo , how to install with backups enabled, should we need to buy the XOA license ?
If you are using it for home lab, building from source will offer backups. If you are using it for business buy a subscription.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS SORRY no intension to advertise, what solution i have instead to use xcp-ng for small business with no charge, thank you for your reply
can you run XCPng and Cloud stack by Apache on top?
Probably, not something that I use
I'm having an error when I use the link for downloading debian...
Tom, Why is the XOA updater/installer only available for Debian 9 or Ubuntu 16? I had trouble even finding the right ISO to download...
It works fine on Debian 10 as well
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS The script checks, and if it isn't 8 or 9 it exits. I suppose I could attempt to change that too. I put in a Git pull request for your fork from mine for a different issue I was running into. Now that I'm past that it just keeps saying waiting for port to be open and exits without setting anything up. This is on Ubuntu 16.04 server... and I've completely disabled the firewall to see if that would help. No joy.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Just tried Debian 10, your fork script does not seem to work. Fixed OS check to support Deb 10. Fails on first yarn curl during Autoinstall. Nevermind... Found the issue. I was using your fork. The original from ronivay seems to be updated.
Hey Tom,
I am a VMware user and tried XCP today. No local storage found after installation, therefore no chance to install Xen Orchestra or even a small VM for testing. Looks like I am stuck with VMware. I used a 500 GB for installation and a 1 TB drive. Only storage I got on the XCP Client was my DVD Rom.
how did you go about defining the separate location for the O/S (500) and the 1TB for the data drive? How did you distinguish that during the XCP-ng installation? Also, a separate question, Is VMware free at this juncture? Do they still have ESXi concepts? If anyone could chime in and tell me what's the better solution for one Hypervisor each in two separate buildings and needing fail-over (High-Availability) using iSCSI or other? So again, a total of just two hypervisors, with each hypervisor needing to run the same two VM's (those VMs are what are needing to remain up if one building goes down, the other building keeps those two VM's running)
could you compare xcg-ng and proxmox?
yup ruclips.net/video/5IinFgGAsRs/видео.html
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS I didnt get the message in time... ended up deleteing my whole server and starting out fresh with xcp-ng lol... might have to change my production server from proxmox too.
I think I like it better already. Also you have more tutorials to follow with xcp...
Honestly, amazing videos very informative. Now to get my dell r510, qnap nass, home network, and home video survalance system up and running... along with pfsense.
Thx Again for all you do for the community!
hi guys we are having some network interface issues in the installation. Can not find an interface but we are running an Asus sega 2 motherboards with intel nic, the latest one. Could you please give us some suggestion?
xcp-ng.org/forum/
I thought Xen was on the way out, and KVM was taking the lead in virtualization?
Lol, that is far from true
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Sorry i am a humble newb, but recently tried to figure out what i should learn (outside of esxi) and all signs pointed to KVM. Did i fall for marketing??
If you have 2 hosts / servers in XOA and you reboot the one that is "hosting" XOA VM will XOA automatically transfer to the other host and stay running?
You have to set up the VMs to migrate over
you did not also show how to QUICK DEPLOY the XOA on the baremetal rather you started working on already installed XOA.
Yes I did, at the 13 minute mark ruclips.net/video/q-jKs62b6Co/видео.html
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS yes i tried but it always tells me i dont have enough space but i have 46GB disk where xcp-ng is fresh installed. How to get past this?
What's the default password when logging into the console on a new VM?
dmin@admin.net with admin as the password
Is Xen or KVM winning?
after update xcp-ng I get this error " an emulator required to run this vm failed to start" for my xoa vm
xcp-ng.org/forum/
Hi Lawrence.
Do you know of anyway to add an ext4 disk through Xen Orchestra with more than 2TB? we are in the 2021 so i was expecting for this to work which is not the case. at least not through Xen Orchestra... i found a way to do it through CLI on a VLM, but not as EXT... Is this normal that such a simple task isn't possible to be done through Xen Orchestra?
Adding the storage is not a problem, i can pick the 3.7TB with no issues, it's only when i try to add a new disk to the VM that the error occurs.
PS: thanks for your videos :)
No, from a storage design standpoint I don't put it all as a VM. I build VM's for the operating systems and have large storage mapped to a proper storage server.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Well, my 3.7TB is not an external storage but its an hardware RAID 6 volume running on the phisical server.
I have like:
128gb ssd running xcp-ng
500gb ssd running my VMs (vms and vmdk)
and the raid6 3.7TB disk
As i said, i was able to add the volume as a storage in xcp-ng through orchestra, what it is not possible to do in orchestra is to add that storage as a single EXT4 3.7TB disk into a VM (my file VM server)
I manage to add it as a LVM through CLI but not as a EXT4... was hopping you would have an answer for what commands i could use to get this thing working...
anyway, thanks for getting back to me. Apreciate all your videos, thanks for the time you put on those..
@@TiagoFernandes81 I did a video here on full drive pass through ruclips.net/video/vSDDMIG6Huk/видео.html
Can Xen be used for hosting virtual desktops, could you do a video on that?
Load windows in a VM, turn on remote desktop.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Tom, Is it possible to passthrough GPU and use a separate monitor/keyb/mouse for ie windows 10 normal station? So you can have in one VM a full FreeNAS server, windows VM machine and maybe run a couple of dockers in another VM .. and all in one machine.
Well, coming from Vmware ESXi, I tried this product but it is way from being a finished product. I have too many issues working from the iPMI console of my super micro server unable to match some of the keys of my French keyboard and why the heck do we have to struggle to create a local repository and populate it while it is so easy using Vmware Vsphere? It should be straight forward within the web UI: create a local repo, open this repo and upload files all in the web ui, this sucks too much to be adopted. I am going back to ESXi.
You not being familiar with the product does not mean the product is not finished, it means you still have some learning to do.
The Borderworld Xen Is In Our Control
Well, yeah, ok, but .... xcp-ng / XOA is actually weird af
I like weird.
It is a stupid XCP-NG deployment step. Proxmox makes anything easily. I chose Promox.
This video is out of date
How so?
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS One example, after installing xoa with quick deploy, there is no "new" link at the bottom of the left side menu. I'm seeing if I can download the older version you have so I can follow along with your tutorial. Thanks for asking. I appreciate you posting the tutorials.
Like 8 adds in a 40 min video? Getting a little to much.....
Too many ads...next.
If you're seeing ads...then you aren't going to be able to setup up a hypervisor...
proxmox is better
No way, XCP-NG is better! 🙂
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS whats the diff? proxmox is my first server level VM experence... Other than running just normal VMware on a windows 10 pc
Proxmox has LX Containers which are much more lightweight, and easier/faster to deploy than vms. There are even prebuild apps containers from Turnkey - gitlab, jenkins, Nextcloud and many more. Proxmox is also based on Debian which means you can run it on almost everything.
@@180doman I've been using Proxmox since I started using VMs seriously about two years ago. I do love the LXCs but Proxmox has become a pain lately. So I'm now testing out xcp-ng. I tested it before based on Tom's suggestion but Proxmox was simply easier and just worked. Now... not so much.
@@AllenSampsell I also had some more troubles with proxx lately but it was mainly with its 6.0.x versions - LOT of problems with containers which cant be start or stop or cloned. But most of them gone with upgrading to 6.1.x. Offcourse im talking about some testing/ experimenting environment because you should never upgrade your core machines with new major version until it "settles down" a bit. Or when you dont relly need it - my home server is still running 5.4 and im not going to upgrade it soon :D