Everyone’s Gaming PC Will Start to Overheat 😳

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @desktop-ini
    @desktop-ini Год назад +11012

    They never accept your warranty anyway.

    • @green1v
      @green1v Год назад +188

      idk man I just did it twice with msi

    • @Electricity667
      @Electricity667 Год назад +100

      This couldn’t be anymore true 😂

    • @izzio6680
      @izzio6680 Год назад +315

      just put it back on, nobody said the stock bracket was taken off😂😂

    • @reedsrenderson2361
      @reedsrenderson2361 Год назад +28

      I have never have anyone accept a warranty.

    • @eiresby2344
      @eiresby2344 Год назад +3

      True lmao

  • @井grass
    @井grass Год назад +5423

    This sounds amazing, but I actually need a PC first.

    • @LprogressivesANDliberals
      @LprogressivesANDliberals Год назад +119

      Hope you can save the money and build one soon 👍🏽 so much fun and amazing to have a pc YOU built by your hands 🥲

    • @santgiatgo
      @santgiatgo Год назад +43

      Save at least 600-700$ if you’re gonna make a pc. And you can buy used parts don’t listen to some people you save a lot.

    • @prox_eu
      @prox_eu Год назад +13

      Me too 😂

    • @doublem207
      @doublem207 Год назад +20

      ​@@LprogressivesANDliberalsL progressives 💯 L liberals 😀 L LGBTQ 👌. That's what I'm talking about baby! 😂

    • @HyperShadic101
      @HyperShadic101 Год назад +2

      lol

  • @Dantido
    @Dantido 7 месяцев назад +607

    AM4/AM5 : *laughs on perfect square*

    • @ethereal41
      @ethereal41 6 месяцев назад +16

      I wonder if there are still any cooling benefits to am4/5 contact frames...

    • @maximus3294
      @maximus3294 6 месяцев назад +24

      ​@@ethereal41it's mostly cosmetic

    • @ethereal41
      @ethereal41 6 месяцев назад

      @@maximus3294 oh, thanks for the info. I just saved myself 5 bucks!

    • @DurzoBlunts
      @DurzoBlunts 6 месяцев назад +18

      Square superiority

    • @Fancy405
      @Fancy405 6 месяцев назад +1

      Perfect square with shit temps

  • @chrispeters8555
    @chrispeters8555 Год назад +1427

    Just put the old one back on if you have to send it out for repair…

    • @naruhearts1
      @naruhearts1 Год назад +81

      Exactly what i was thinking lol

    • @honinakecheta601
      @honinakecheta601 Год назад +84

      That’s what I did, they can’t tell you removed it lol

    • @tfkoincognito
      @tfkoincognito Год назад +51

      Some coolers have their own retention mechanism. They don't void them. I don't see the difference.

    • @counterstrikelord
      @counterstrikelord 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@tfkoincognitothis is what I was thinking

    • @lemickey4204
      @lemickey4204 10 месяцев назад +11

      Never paid much attention to the cpu socket, but gpu screws have the little paper tabs on top of them that show if you’ve removed it or not. Replaced thermal paste on my gpu and in the process ruined those stickers and voided warranty

  • @CALEB-kt8mn
    @CALEB-kt8mn Год назад +1478

    My square CPU WITH EQUAL SIDES: I don't have such weakness

    • @pattyd343
      @pattyd343 10 месяцев назад +92

      7800X3D 💪

    • @CALEB-kt8mn
      @CALEB-kt8mn 10 месяцев назад +45

      @@pattyd343 Intel I5-2400 🗿

    • @I_Crit_My_Pants
      @I_Crit_My_Pants 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@pattyd3437950X3D

    • @darksidetize5183
      @darksidetize5183 10 месяцев назад +31

      @@CALEB-kt8mni5 2500k💪🗿

    • @Heisenberg355
      @Heisenberg355 10 месяцев назад +9

      Isn't a square also a rectangle? Should be the same problem on square CPUs

  • @DerangedCoconut808
    @DerangedCoconut808 Год назад +1627

    thermal grizzly developed it, aliexpress sellers copied it. give credit to the company that actually spent money developing instead of suggesting copies.

    • @reddeadleisure
      @reddeadleisure Год назад +201

      Damn... That crazy!.. Im still not buying it

    • @anubhavmuku96
      @anubhavmuku96 Год назад +224

      @@reddeadleisure the Chinese knockoffs have poor tolerances and material is well, depends on who on aliexpress you buy from, some are 3003 ffs. Enjoy playing Russian roulette with a 500USD processor to save 20 bucks lol.

    • @RedTeamPlay
      @RedTeamPlay 11 месяцев назад +101

      @@anubhavmuku96it’s just a metal rectangle lol

    • @anubhavmuku96
      @anubhavmuku96 11 месяцев назад +189

      @@RedTeamPlay Yes, lol indeed. And Scalpel is just a steel knife. Have your surgeon cut into you with a trench knife if you even need a surgery. Its basically the same thing, what can go wrong? Right?

    • @dezpotizmOFheaven
      @dezpotizmOFheaven 11 месяцев назад +36

      ​@@anubhavmuku96Exactly. And a Thermal Grizzly one doesn't cost much as well.

  • @YoutubeAddict23
    @YoutubeAddict23 Год назад +750

    Thermalgrizly not only designed and pioneered this solution, but employs people at a living wage and offers a superior product. Also manufacturers it in Germany I believe. That's why it's $30.

    • @subyouwont
      @subyouwont 11 месяцев назад +43

      I see 60$, so, no. I won’t be supporting their metal rectangle

    • @samanawayadatta891
      @samanawayadatta891 11 месяцев назад +52

      why would I even pay 30 bucks, for just a metal rectangle? I mean, it ain't even hard to build. Like, if they drop a CAD design, everyone can literally CNC it out. It's not even hard to acquire resources for it. 30 bucks is weird for it.

    • @NKVD_Enjoyer
      @NKVD_Enjoyer 11 месяцев назад +10

      Cool story pal

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 10 месяцев назад +46

      @@samanawayadatta891 It have much tighter tolerances then random chinese crap.

    • @Raining_Frazzer
      @Raining_Frazzer 10 месяцев назад +16

      That is true but where I live the aliexpress stuff that can ship to me is $1.52 and thermal grizzly is $102 for me

  • @linusgk5042
    @linusgk5042 Год назад +372

    Give Der8auer the cred he diserves and not flashing his product and glancing over the increased cost of products made outside of Asia.

    • @werterdererste
      @werterdererste 11 месяцев назад +3

      8 not 5 bro @der8bauer

    • @linusgk5042
      @linusgk5042 11 месяцев назад

      @@werterdererste ops 👍

    • @LiquidSnakeSSJ4
      @LiquidSnakeSSJ4 11 месяцев назад +7

      let's not give dropshippers credit & attention for things they didn't design, kids

    • @theendoftheline
      @theendoftheline 8 месяцев назад

      @@werterdererste der8auer

    • @udpsocket
      @udpsocket 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@LiquidSnakeSSJ4 Thermal grizzly originally developed and made the product, though.

  • @DrEtzor
    @DrEtzor Год назад +323

    "Some companies try to sell these for like $35 bucks" ah yes... the original team that originally engineered the solution of this problem gets called a ripoff for selling a premium bracket made out of aluminium rather than being a cheaper option.
    That 'company' also did all the investigation to figure out this was an actual issue, so they did all the R&D and instead of providing for that company that actually is on your side your calling them a ripoff.

    • @DerpyPannycake
      @DerpyPannycake 9 месяцев назад +11

      You expect him to do more research than the bare minimun?

    • @theendoftheline
      @theendoftheline 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@DerpyPannycake you expect people to reply to you seriously? lol

    • @theendoftheline
      @theendoftheline 9 месяцев назад +3

      Also they have an even better version for 14th gen out already, hasnt even been copied yet since its all about tight tolerances.

    • @ilovereadingwuxiaxianxiaat8994
      @ilovereadingwuxiaxianxiaat8994 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@theendofthelinethe irony 💀

    • @frumpyglint
      @frumpyglint 6 месяцев назад

      ​@theendoftheline but $35+ for it is steep you have to admit. They probably could have made it out of a plastic polymer and produce like crazy with a small injection moulding production line. I do get it. It's a product that not many people will buy and if they do, there is no need for ever returning for more. It needs a high price for it to even be worth selling

  • @Fl4mma
    @Fl4mma 11 месяцев назад +54

    NEVER say that de8bauer is some youtuber. Without this man, there would never ever be smth like this. HE MADE IT in cooperation with Thermal Grizzly. And it's price for thier componenta is coming from the best eq to create this. Quality man, over bs.

    • @theendoftheline
      @theendoftheline 9 месяцев назад +3

      not being critical just clarifying, I think der8aur owns thermal grizzly, at least he is one of the owners as they merged companies, the wording "in cooperation with" is from products made before the merger i believe, but now he is a co-owner.

    • @casualgameplayyt
      @casualgameplayyt 8 месяцев назад +2

      Thermal Grizzly be making those big $$$, how much does it cost to make a small block of metal with a hole cut in?

    • @Fl4mma
      @Fl4mma 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@casualgameplayyt Please. Learn how these products are made, from scratch. Then ask that question again. It's not only about buying milk. The price is not just milk, right? It's the whole process and technology used behind getting it under your nose 👌

    • @theendoftheline
      @theendoftheline 8 месяцев назад

      @@casualgameplayyt you got a metal block for yours? better return that its supposed to be a small metal sheet cut to exact dimensions. So then your question becomes, how to make a machined metal device with a better shape than a 180 billion dollar company could do.

    • @theendoftheline
      @theendoftheline 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@casualgameplayyt Im sure well see your metal block version on the market soon ;)

  • @rorywaifu2422
    @rorywaifu2422 Год назад +113

    I saw MSI technical support stuff replying that installing this frame doesn't void warranty

    • @MrNside
      @MrNside 7 месяцев назад +4

      Did they mention that the warranty is void the second you take the motherboard out of the box though?

  • @jandkwhite6459
    @jandkwhite6459 Год назад +81

    ive been saying this about contact frames on basically EVERY pc build video. Dropped temps on my 13900k with a triple rad aio 11C

    • @Zynphii
      @Zynphii Год назад

      I’m actually in the process of changing my cpu cooler since it’s been overheating my cpu for up to 100c. I’m running the i9 10900k. What temps can I expect to get if I replace and renew everything?

    • @Ilikedagames-rf2fx
      @Ilikedagames-rf2fx Год назад +10

      @@Zynphii Changing paste and upgrading to a large tower cooler or AIO (240MM or larger) would drastically drop your temps. Depending on your airflow setup, you should be able to lower your temps by 25-40 Celsius.

    • @Zynphii
      @Zynphii Год назад +1

      @@Ilikedagames-rf2fx Right now I've got the 360mm corsair h150i (along with 6 air fans) and like 30 mins ago, I just cleaned out the dust and put in some new thermal paste. Temps have dropped but not as much as I had hoped since when I changed the thermal paste the first time, it was hovering around 65 - 75 when gaming. Now it's about 75 - 85.

    • @jandkwhite6459
      @jandkwhite6459 Год назад

      @@Zynphii change the fan speed in bios. Or whatever you're using to control fan speeds

    • @Zynphii
      @Zynphii Год назад

      @@jandkwhite6459 I normally play warzone 2. What rpm should I set my fans to? Currently have them on 1500rpm when playing. I’m using the Lian li case

  • @CHEF2077
    @CHEF2077 Год назад +87

    „There are some companies selling these for 35$“
    That‘s the company who literally invented this….this idea is from Roman, der8auer which is the owner of Thermal Grizzly.
    Also contact frames from TG are anodized aluminium, dont think you can precisely CNC machine those and anodize them for 5$.

    • @bastitube8694
      @bastitube8694 10 месяцев назад +2

      No, Eiko Salow is the owner of Thermal Grizzly

    • @theendoftheline
      @theendoftheline 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@bastitube8694 Out of date info. That company was founded in 2015 and is no more. In 2020: "Eike and Roman merged from sole proprietors in 2020 to form the newly founded Thermal Grizzly Holding GmbH" So Roman, derbauer is the owner of Thermal Grizzly, and yes, Elko Salow is the owner of Thermal Grizzly. They are Co-Founders of the new business from 2020.

    • @bastitube8694
      @bastitube8694 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@theendoftheline 👍

    • @BrunodeSouzaLino
      @BrunodeSouzaLino 7 месяцев назад

      Contact frames have been part of server CPU sockets for years now. This is not a new idea.

    • @theendoftheline
      @theendoftheline 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@BrunodeSouzaLinooh ok i see your confusion now in this comment (saw your comments elsewhere first) this is literally a corrective contact frame... he didnt claim to invent this, as thats essentially what the original clamping thing is, a contact frame. All they are claiming is to have engineered better dimensions on their frame for better contact THATS IT, you are just confused what is being claimed

  • @adrian39369
    @adrian39369 Год назад +80

    Thermal grizzly may be more expensive but der8auer pioneered that contact frame replacement and his are much better in terms of quality control and margins of error and are designed with those lines so that they can be precisely installed without a precision torque screwdriver

  • @Salbyy
    @Salbyy Год назад +303

    As a laptop user I found this very useful 😢😅

    • @sokerok320
      @sokerok320 Год назад +9

      Ah yes the problem is only on desktop cpus not on laptop cpus

    • @jekyk6082
      @jekyk6082 Год назад +24

      ​@@sokerok320its sarcasm

    • @saisandeep2289
      @saisandeep2289 Год назад +1

      Honey well ptm 7950 exists

    • @RADIS370
      @RADIS370 Год назад

      ​@@sokerok320r/woooosh

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani Год назад

      @@saisandeep2289 that thing is so expensive unless you live in the US.

  • @BTSGKross
    @BTSGKross Год назад +69

    the $35 Thermal Grizzly one is just better machined than the $5 one, the guy who made it put lot of time into it

    • @randomzocker8956
      @randomzocker8956 Год назад +19

      And was the inventor of the contact frame, not sone cheap knock of...
      Im kinda pissed he doesnt even creddit him

    • @BTSGKross
      @BTSGKross Год назад +4

      same, he put so much time into advanced cooling of CPU's, its a shame

    • @user-ke1gn3ql1g
      @user-ke1gn3ql1g 11 месяцев назад +6

      It's just a metal square... I understand wanting to support the original creator tho.

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@user-ke1gn3ql1g Extremely accurately machined metal square. Your processor lid might be less quality then the mount for it.

    • @joshb6470
      @joshb6470 9 месяцев назад +2

      Steve at GN did a nice review comparing a couple of these, I bought mine based off those tests, and then as thanks I bought some of the coasters he sells.

  • @LprogressivesANDliberals
    @LprogressivesANDliberals Год назад +69

    Second hand mobo squad represent! 🙋🏽👋🏾 my warranty has been long gone 😂

    • @berrito
      @berrito Год назад +6

      Well you are in luck my friend. I am here to contact you about your motherboard's extended warranty. Act fact before it's too late. XD

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Год назад +1

      ​@@berritoyou just have to send apple gift cards $$$

  • @steelfalconx2000
    @steelfalconx2000 Год назад +23

    This has been around for a while and I'm pretty sure it was der8auer that discovered it and created the contact frame.

  • @Sphyxx
    @Sphyxx 11 месяцев назад +4

    The Aliexpress ones are usually not as good being either thicker or slimmer and have imperfections preventing a proper contact so yes spend the extra money and get the right thing

  • @alekscreator2253
    @alekscreator2253 Год назад +145

    You are gonna be impressed that this thing is even working on a 12100f like a charm

  • @olegottsch8182
    @olegottsch8182 Год назад +59

    The 35$ Thermal Grizzly charges is with it, because it's made in Germany and was the First of it's kind, also you always get perfect quality but I can understand that most people don't want to pay that much

    • @chalion8399
      @chalion8399 11 месяцев назад +2

      My prebuilt has this installed and it's worth it.

  • @CraaaaaabPeople
    @CraaaaaabPeople Год назад +8

    These have been around since the 12th gen launch and have been fully covered by channels like Hardware Unboxed.

  • @milescarter7803
    @milescarter7803 Год назад +4

    The $35 ones are better quality, and have marks to aid in getting proper tension. As well as instructions. I bought the cheap one, but followed a guide from Gamer's Nexus. If you don't tighten it correctly PC might not boot or PCIe lanes or memory slots might not work. You will have to re-install the bolts properly.
    If you slip you can bend socket pins or break motherboard traces. Be careful. Also if you don't use a contact frame always put the cooler on when CPU is in the socket, it helps counteract this phenomenon.

    • @nufcbob
      @nufcbob Год назад +1

      Why would you put the cooler on before the cpu is installed? 😅

    • @JubbLaRacing
      @JubbLaRacing 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@nufcbob😂

  • @martyfight3834
    @martyfight3834 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thermal Grizzly is the company that invented the contact frame. Fellow RUclipsr Der8auer designed the frame. The 5$ products are stolen designs.

  • @operationhelpers3267
    @operationhelpers3267 Год назад +7

    When I will try to use my warranty I will just replace the brackets back and be like:
    New brackets? Never heard of those

  • @TheEvilPorkchop03
    @TheEvilPorkchop03 10 месяцев назад +4

    The company selling it for $30 pays people enough to sleep in a bedroom on a bed.

  • @edgelord3428
    @edgelord3428 Год назад +42

    get the thermal grizzly one though because the thermalright ones and the knockoffs because the tolerances wont be as well

    • @Skilow
      @Skilow Год назад +6

      Thermalright makes some good shit through.

    • @Kitkat5335
      @Kitkat5335 Год назад

      That is because the knock offs are usually made using molds where as Thermal Grizzly machines the ones they sell. I believe Thermaltak does as well, but I know for a fact the aliexpress ones are just cheap mold made knockoffs.

    • @edgelord3428
      @edgelord3428 Год назад +2

      @@Skilow not as good as derbauer

    • @edgelord3428
      @edgelord3428 Год назад

      @@Kitkat5335 yeah i think derbauer machines his

    • @kevinlow69420
      @kevinlow69420 Год назад +15

      Thermal grizzly one is typical overengineered German garbage, not only is it more expensive, it's also inferior because it 'floats' above the motherboard and requires just the right amount of torque to ensure perfect pressure on the CPU and to function as intended.
      The cheap thermalright one sits flush on the motherboard and all you have to do to install it perfectly is to screw it until it bottoms out on the motherboard. It's literally a foolproof design compared to thermal grizzly. No idea why derbauer didn't do this.

  • @Mcwrah
    @Mcwrah Год назад +7

    When I bought second hand 13900k (400 eur, barely used with warranty), the seller recommended I get one of these, especially told me to get the cheap one so I got one few days later along with a motherboard. Tested with and without and found a 7C difference with my custom loop, and it only cost me 10eur with shipping. Was well worth it. Been running it since january this year without issues

  • @wavytoad9983
    @wavytoad9983 Год назад +28

    Where have you been dude? You just discovered these?

    • @werterdererste
      @werterdererste 11 месяцев назад +3

      No der8auer a german found out and develop this. From him is the high price product😂. He made a whole series even in English over the development steps.

    • @wavytoad9983
      @wavytoad9983 11 месяцев назад

      @@werterdererste I bought one almost a year ago.

    • @SantosOTW
      @SantosOTW 10 месяцев назад

      Someone in my town is selling A AMD Ryzen 9 5950x paired with a rx 6900 XT master for 1800 with a full set up is it worth it ? This is my first PC Thanks

  • @MrNside
    @MrNside 7 месяцев назад +1

    1. This short is from October of 2023. Contact frames for LGA 1700 came out in April of 2022. A bit late there, chief.
    2. The thermal grizzly frame you pointed out was one of if not the first to enter the market. They're machined to a tighter tolerance than cheaper frames, which is why the price. Der8auer did a video on it when they released it... In April of 2022... No RUclipsr "just discovered" this a year and a half later.
    3. New Arctic cooler models ship with contact frames for Intel as standard mounting hardware (Liquid Freezer III and some air cooler models) Though these models are newer than this short, it's a good FYI if you're looking for a new cooler and a contact frame. LFIII are awesome BTW.

  • @fourtyfour3642
    @fourtyfour3642 9 месяцев назад +5

    No fu… way you call out DerBauer. Give him his credit !

  • @4AMO4
    @4AMO4 6 месяцев назад +1

    Void warranty stickers are illegal as far as I know. Though if they "convince" you then it doesn't matter.

  • @jasperkohn6628
    @jasperkohn6628 Год назад +3

    You should of credited derbauer

  • @iixixiboy3475
    @iixixiboy3475 Год назад +2

    Its worth getting it..very simple install no need to worry about warranty..

  • @jarrodurbanosky
    @jarrodurbanosky 11 месяцев назад +3

    Taking technical advice from a RUclipsr and not a computer technician is like getting New York City bus driver to fly your private jet😂

    • @Scientwisted
      @Scientwisted 6 месяцев назад

      Tell that to Jays2Cents and Linus Tech Tips.

  • @jerryknudsen7898
    @jerryknudsen7898 10 месяцев назад

    I always build with these. For the lga 1700 i buy them for the bending issues of those CPUs. The AM5 platform doesnt have bending problems but they still sell these for that platform under the same rational of rigidity. The real reason to use these on am5 is because that allows you to remove the ILM from am5 which usually prevents 90% of am4 coolers from fitting since am5 comes with that simpler but less compatible 4 screw mounting system just like 2011 has.

  • @Drippy_dripster
    @Drippy_dripster 11 месяцев назад +3

    I’ll go thermal grizzly all day, he backs his products and produces everything himself, he’s not a giant greedy company or id agree

  • @logyz450
    @logyz450 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thermal Grizzly is the original. Der8auer literally did all the research and development on what the knockoffs use. Now, does it mean that those cheaper ones don’t work? No, they probably do just fine but are definitely not as high quality material and coating.

  • @Ondamon375
    @Ondamon375 Год назад +3

    😂 thermal grizzly is the creator of this piece shown, that's why they list it for the price they do...

  • @theslowsloth646
    @theslowsloth646 3 месяца назад +1

    by the way void warranty things they’re illegal in the US so if you see them and they void warranty, contact the US government and sue them to get that money

  • @Gigachad-Thundercock
    @Gigachad-Thundercock 11 месяцев назад +15

    "this youtuber" (whom you don't link to in any way btw) is Der8auer, the CEO of thermal grizzly which invented that contact frame, don't frame them as some cheapskates who are only trying to make a buck doing the same thing the knockoff chinese companies are doing. It costs money to innovate, and cheaping out on something that needs tight tolerances like that is a bad idea. Buy the thermal grizzly frame, don't mess around trying to save $30 with shady businesses when youre working with a $300-600 cpu

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek Год назад +1

    i have done it to a ton of motherboards and its 100% worth it. Also i recently sent an evga motherboard in for repair and they didnt void it. The key is to keep your stock mounting bracket and just toss it back on and no one will know

  • @STOPPEDINCOLORADO
    @STOPPEDINCOLORADO Год назад +3

    If you build your own shit, a warranty doesn’t matter.

    • @e0nema0tak1v
      @e0nema0tak1v Год назад +2

      It does.. Every part has separate warranty. When you grow up youll learn

    • @freewings2188
      @freewings2188 Год назад

      Issues can happen later down the road. Like a gpu getting artifacts

  • @partyheartyboy
    @partyheartyboy Год назад +1

    Hi. It really works! I have it on my 13600K system and it’s pretty amazing. Also, the structural rigidity by having the aluminum contact plate gives you peace of mind that the heavier cpu coolers will stay put and not warp the motherboard’s pcb. Cheers! 👍

  • @Sped-Sters
    @Sped-Sters Год назад +14

    Am4 could never need something like that lol

    • @FavoriteSniper
      @FavoriteSniper Год назад

      But I wonder if it helps with temps anyhow with an amd cpu :o

    • @scarecrow5848
      @scarecrow5848 Год назад +2

      same with am5, it's a square CPU and the cooler uses 2 retention arms, instead of just one.

    • @scarecrow5848
      @scarecrow5848 Год назад +7

      @@FavoriteSniper AM4 is AMD.

  • @renyarhoj4154
    @renyarhoj4154 7 месяцев назад

    Confirmed it works nicely. Although I don't have personal use case comparison data because I heard about bent CPUs before I built my current PC and thus made sure to do this modification during my initial build. Comparing average data against my data does show my PC runs cooler.

  • @gward1968
    @gward1968 11 месяцев назад +9

    As the old saying goes: you get what you pay for.

  • @markpmar0356
    @markpmar0356 7 месяцев назад

    I've been using the OG contact frame of this kind, the Thermalright LGA1700 contact frame, with my 12900KS and the chip seems to like it a lot. Idling temps are in the mid-20s all the time and gaming temps never hit 70 C. I'm quite pleased and will use one of these frames in any build going forward.

  • @Bigdog-Chungus
    @Bigdog-Chungus Год назад +7

    Bro my friend is building his first pc and he was expecting to get a 12400f but he found an insane combo at Microcenter and now he’s getting a 12900k 😂

    • @milescarter7803
      @milescarter7803 Год назад

      Lol, even so core i7 and spend the extra on 6800XT, makes a well balanced system.

    • @309electronics5
      @309electronics5 Год назад +1

      What deal and how much?

    • @Bigdog-Chungus
      @Bigdog-Chungus Год назад +1

      MSI Z690-A PRO WiFi, 32 GB of DDR5, and 12900k for $400

    • @thegamersforumorg
      @thegamersforumorg Год назад +1

      You should tell him to snag the 7700X instead, AM5 gang 😎

    • @SantosOTW
      @SantosOTW 10 месяцев назад

      Someone in my town is selling A AMD Ryzen 9 5950x paired with a rx 6900 XT master for 1800 with a full set up is it worth it ? This is my first PC Thanks

  • @xcaliber4141
    @xcaliber4141 Год назад +2

    If its warranty issue keep the older one when needed to change it again

  • @Salaundre
    @Salaundre Год назад +3

    I saw one for $7 on Amazon. I’m definitely going to get one for my build. Plus the look nice too.

  • @GhostC4t404
    @GhostC4t404 7 месяцев назад +1

    personally id go with the company that made them even is they cost $40 then buying from AliExpress

  • @tomgear6462
    @tomgear6462 Год назад +7

    Thermal Grizzly inst trying to, they ARE selling them for $35 and that's because it's the best on the market

    • @BaMbOoZeD
      @BaMbOoZeD Год назад +1

      Some do complaining about the original screws can't be used. They are too short, because the grizzly model is too thick rather than the thermalright one.

    • @kevinlow69420
      @kevinlow69420 Год назад +1

      It's an inferior design, it 'floats' on the motherboard and applies pressure via specific amount of torque. Thermalright sits flush on the motherboard so all you have to do is screw it in until it bottoms out.

    • @FactionalSky
      @FactionalSky 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@kevinlow69420it's made to be like that because everything else might cause problems. The TG frame is the best one.

  • @itsBreadley
    @itsBreadley 6 месяцев назад

    honestly i would buy the thermal grizzly frame, there’s been people having issues with it the cheaper ones not being machined to the proper tolerances and actually decreasing performance of the cpu. maybe only for certain defective ones though

  • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
    @MinistryOfMagic_DoM 11 месяцев назад +6

    Or Intel could just do better. AMD knew the right way years before Intel. The Threadripper hold down system works amazingly well.

  • @Rodolfowei12345
    @Rodolfowei12345 10 месяцев назад +1

    After like 20 years of having PCs etc....never had that problem or at least i've never noticed....a solution for an inexisting problem....

  • @theuluko
    @theuluko 11 месяцев назад +8

    First of all Der 8auer with his Company thermal grizzly invented this.

  • @rmt3589
    @rmt3589 14 дней назад +1

    Did you add these to the pcs you sell?

  • @Obsidian_Shadow
    @Obsidian_Shadow Год назад +5

    Hardware Canucks on top

  • @Kruk1975
    @Kruk1975 10 месяцев назад

    I was considering this before I got my i9 14900k. It’s running instant 6ghz on vine bench for 30 minutes highest temp was 92c without thermal throttle.
    Liquid aio, thermal paste I spread with spatchula and raised it by less then a mm (or it felt like it) where the coolers had bad contact(near the backers or in the centerline if you’re reading the text on the processor it’s from the sides down the middle,) just add a little extra and then I put a small dot in the center to avoid air bubbles. Carefully placed it. Tightened it down…. Everything works great *knock on wood* and I couldn’t be happier I didn’t get the 13900k

  • @reptileescape3619
    @reptileescape3619 Год назад +8

    I mean, unless you are thermal throttling, 2-6 degrees will give you about 200-600 mhz
    At the moment I would say it’s not worth yet even for $5

    • @Jason9637
      @Jason9637 Год назад +3

      That's 0.2 - 0.6 GHz
      That's definitely a significant improvement

    • @reptileescape3619
      @reptileescape3619 Год назад

      @@Jason9637 if you think about it, not worth voiding warranty, all I’m saying

    • @Ilikedagames-rf2fx
      @Ilikedagames-rf2fx Год назад +5

      @@reptileescape3619 Buying new parts is generally not worth it. Half of brands don't even honor their warranty process.

    • @shadeshotTV
      @shadeshotTV Год назад

      ​@@reptileescape3619 no matter how you look at it its 100% worth
      increased fps, increased stability, longer lasting components due to less heat, and you can easily revert the change if you need to send it in for a warranty
      like what the other guy said, that amount of performance loss from just heat is INSANE

    • @reptileescape3619
      @reptileescape3619 Год назад

      @@shadeshotTV Voiding warranty is never worth it for a 1-3 FPS increase in my opinion. But to each their own

  • @kanatokazuya1637
    @kanatokazuya1637 Год назад

    Glad I found this short right before my pc parts arrive

  • @KiiR745
    @KiiR745 Год назад +4

    This RUclipsr just found.... He didn't and this was discovered 2 years ago

  • @selectthedead
    @selectthedead 10 месяцев назад +2

    The reason why thermal Grizzly Takes 35€ is because of mashining precision!

  • @Bot-yo8wc
    @Bot-yo8wc Год назад +3

    Best gpu for i7-13700k & 32 gigs of ddr5?

  • @53232adrian
    @53232adrian 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the information. I was going to upgrade my pc to 12th gen. I'll definitely get this frame. Thermalright has also got this one.

  • @thetj8243
    @thetj8243 Год назад +3

    the 35$ Version is made by the youtuber that first found issue with Intels 12th gen processor's and is "made in Germany" 😅 but as gamers nexus found out the 5-10$ version from thermal right is nearly the same quality.

  • @chamikakavishan5060
    @chamikakavishan5060 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been using 5 bucks worth thermaltake retention for almost 1 year on my 12700k and it’s working great

  • @arvin6606
    @arvin6606 11 месяцев назад +6

    Fix number one, don't use intel

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 10 месяцев назад

      Its gonna improve results regardless. All modern CPU`s have these faults, intel is just worst.

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 10 месяцев назад

      @@alexturnbackthearmy1907 I guess the more rectangular the cpu, the higher the risk is. So nope not gonna buy current intel with this kind of mobo design. Not willing to spend 35 usd or help the cheap knockoffs. Maybe 15th gen intel or a better mobo design

    • @henrysinclair5914
      @henrysinclair5914 8 месяцев назад

      @@pauloazuela8488 or just not use and and your computer will still run fine

  • @Newguy-qb6kz
    @Newguy-qb6kz 3 месяца назад

    Quick PSA, “warranty void if removed” stickers are illegal in the US

  • @greembow
    @greembow Год назад +2

    when my Threadripper literally doesn't have this issue because it's just a better mechanism 💀

    • @bocahdongo7769
      @bocahdongo7769 Год назад +1

      It's basically same shit with this, but officially provided

  • @corrupted1850
    @corrupted1850 6 месяцев назад

    Fun fact the whole warranty voided if removed thing is straight up illegal in the US

  • @jamesm568
    @jamesm568 Год назад +2

    If you actually torque your CPU cooler to specifications it won't do that.

    • @michaellvoltare
      @michaellvoltare Год назад +2

      It's the ILM's fault. If you leave a cpu there even with no cooler it will bend over time.

    • @milescarter7803
      @milescarter7803 Год назад +2

      It helps, doesn't eliminate the bending. The socket interacts with metal close to the socket, where the cooler attaches to the PCB farther away. You would need a very thick backplate to put enough pressure on the CPU with a cooler to counteract this problem. Simpler and cheaper to get the contact frame.
      Also many good coolers are slightly Convex to put more pressure in the middle anyway, if the CPU conforms it will still go Concave.
      Go see Gamers Nexus and Der8auer channels if you want the science. In a recent one Der8auer used a CNC mounted laser to measure across a 14900k and you can see how dished in it gets.
      In the end does it matter for most CPUs? Probably not. But it's very cheap and it works. My take, if you are pulling under 150w you'll probably get away without one (but you can pull more than that on non-k processors these days by adjusting TDP limits)

  • @Godsrocker1970
    @Godsrocker1970 5 месяцев назад

    I just installed on i9 13900k and gaming I have not breached 50c yet. First build in 10 years, it came out sweet.

  • @VitiateTheImmortal
    @VitiateTheImmortal 9 месяцев назад +1

    Im using the termal grizzly 14th gen one :D works perfectly on my 14900K

  • @Zeron18
    @Zeron18 26 дней назад

    It actually works in my undervolt 7950x as well. On my regular gaming, it peaked at 65c before the corrector plate. After corrector plate, it sits at 60-61c with no changes to the settings.
    The problem was that the ihs has a high point in the center that caused pump out towards the side. Installing the plate made the ihs more even to my dark rock pro 4 contact plate.

  • @ScottGrammer
    @ScottGrammer 7 месяцев назад

    It doesn't happen "over time," it happens immediately. I built a machine with a 12th gen cpu, and two days later I removed the cooler to make a change due to excess temps. The pattern of the thermal compound showed that the CPU had already buckled. I put in one of these contact frames and the temps dropped considerably with the same cooler.

  • @Ralipsi
    @Ralipsi 11 месяцев назад

    I bought the Thermalright CPU Contact Frame for my LGA 1700 (Core i5 13600k) and it works perfectly!

  • @nightadmin283
    @nightadmin283 9 месяцев назад

    I think you can ignore warranty since CPU is hard to break and many heatsink do need to remove existing CPU brace and use a provided one in package.

  • @NBC_7
    @NBC_7 Месяц назад

    I know this video is a bit old now, but a contact frame does really help with cooling efficiency and heat dispersion across the mating surface of the IHS and the cooler itself. I used the Thermal Grizzly brand one myself, but I think this one is probably just as good, and at a much lower cost.
    As far as voiding the warranty… I believe those stickers that say something like “warranty void if removed” have been illegal in the United States since the mid 70’s, and when the modification of a product actually does void the warranty, the failure of the warrantied part has to be able to be attributed directly to the modification of said item to even be valid. I’m sure someone’s already said this, but whatever! Lol

  • @DexMaster881
    @DexMaster881 Год назад

    That TG Flame though XD

  • @jessedabo
    @jessedabo 13 дней назад

    Loved the warranty warning

  • @nilesanimations8077
    @nilesanimations8077 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for putting the video name on screen and putting the link in the comments

  • @GingerOnWheels
    @GingerOnWheels 10 месяцев назад

    Doesnt fix the overheating on the 13900k or 14900k unless you have a custom cooling loop.

  • @117tyler
    @117tyler Месяц назад

    In the USA any void warranty stickers or technically illegal to even put on because we have a law that says you have the right to work on and repair your electronic equipment without voiding warranties

  • @Mitsou44
    @Mitsou44 Год назад

    I'm glad only the rectangle CPUs having this problem

  • @SmitePlayz1
    @SmitePlayz1 Год назад

    Damn, thanks, this will be so useful for my i5 9600k.

  • @TP015657
    @TP015657 Год назад +2

    Easiest solution is to stop buying Intel until they pull their act together, high power consumption, locked features, stagnant architecture design.
    I'm still super salty we were stuck with 4c8t for so many years on 70/700 SKU, if not for AMD we would still be doing 4c8t on 13700

    • @tobyzilla2.074
      @tobyzilla2.074 27 дней назад

      That's why I want with amd for my computer

  • @igotstaknow
    @igotstaknow 24 дня назад

    99.9% of videos showing CPU installs show applying heat sink grease wrong.
    They put a large amount on the CPU and press the heat sink on the grease.
    The correct way is to cover all of the CPU top with a very fine coat.
    The grease is only meant to fill micro valleys to conduct the heat away from the CPU.

  • @NicholastheStoic
    @NicholastheStoic 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for adding another reason for why I’m glad I built my rig with a square shaped Ryzen 7 and not an i7 or i9

  • @AMGPlayzYT
    @AMGPlayzYT Месяц назад

    In America we have a thing called "right to repair" tldr essentially anytime you see a "warranty void if removed" sticker it's actually illegal

  • @RIZEN879
    @RIZEN879 Месяц назад

    "5 minute crafts" really did it 💀

  • @evanhartman8602
    @evanhartman8602 Месяц назад +1

    Is this something you should still get with an am4/5 cpu? Seems like the slight more contact area from the frame might help

  • @dreamcat04
    @dreamcat04 Год назад

    I'm actually using this on my 12700K, with the stock ILM the CPU can sustain 190W with my 250W rated beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4, but with the contact frame it can sustain around 235W and without the fan, it can dissipate around 100W, while with the standard ILM, it can only cool 65W passively

  • @thegamingtruckdriver
    @thegamingtruckdriver Год назад

    They work. Got the Thermaltake one for my 13900 and the temp difference under load is crazy.

  • @donh8833
    @donh8833 Год назад

    The problem isn't the ratio of the x/y. Intel used a very thin IHS. Thus it lacks strength making it easier to bend. This makes it easier to cool when it's thinner. Thick heatsinks act like heat islands. You want to wick it to the heat pipes ASAP

  • @reyhanpradantyo
    @reyhanpradantyo Год назад +2

    This is cool but I don’t think that video in your screenshot was about this. That video was about offsetting the cooler position down because when they viewed the CPU with a thermal camera, it shows that the main source of heat on the chip was not directly in the middle of the CPU

  • @rrrrichh
    @rrrrichh Год назад +1

    For the people selling these for 3 dollars, i dont know what your buisness model is but god bless you

  • @eddiechen9968
    @eddiechen9968 Год назад

    Great value on Intel chips, since they run hot. Got one off Amazon for like 12 bucks for my 13700k, dropped like 8C.

  • @ElNeroDiablo
    @ElNeroDiablo 11 месяцев назад

    "Warranty void if removed" stickers have been deemed invalid under consumer laws in countries like the US and Australia, so it tends to hold no legal power if you do mod a motherboard or open a gaming console (such as to clean out the dust or replace storage or thermal interface).