I worked in EB Games just when the PS1 was being launched, and there was a huge push to shift the 3DO before it launched as they knew the writing was on the wall when it did. So there was a marketing campaign called "Don't Buy a Dodo, Buy 3DO" We used to find it funny to stickers over the "Don't" part 😂
I got a PS1 on release day because some moron put the bag on his roof and yep ....they took off. Paid cash too so no way to determine the owner. Store said keep it
The 80’s and 90’s, what a time to be alive. To live through the golden age of console gaming was an absolute blast. The 3DO FZ-10 was one of my all-time favorites, not to mention Samurai Shodown and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo were still relevant fighters when they were released. I can't even count how many times I had sleepovers just to play fighters all night with friends. I can still feel the excitement. Those years are highly missed.
I bought 3D0 upon release at Macy’s for $700. Loved World Interceptor, Road Rash, Crash and Burn and especially Monster Manor. Along with my Neo Geo AES in 1993 my gaming needs were met.
Am I the only one who enjoyed the heck out of these two videos ? My friend back in high school in1995 had the Panasonic one and I played the system once . I never knew much else about that game system until these videos . Kudos Patmanqc!
Happy little rich games . . . . . . . Doesn't take a genius (luckily for me) to see that you put massive amounts of work into these videos. One of these days I'll be able to compensate you just a bit for all the hours and hours of terrific entertainment you've given all of us PatmanQC! Thank you brother!
3DO was in the main ruined by their 'engineers'. I had a first gen devkit on my desk, running at 12.5Mhz. The final system was specced to run a 25Mhz ARM, but several months into working on it they informed all developers it would be limited to 12.5Mhz "because it is not possible to run the ARM at 25Mhz". Completely wrong of course, I'd had a 25Mhz ARM 3 running in a Acorn Achimedes for well over a year by then. They were also extremely cagey about exposing their SWI calls to those of us writing in assembler, insisting everything be done through their libraries. Quite liked the Maria sprite system though, rather than simply stretch the sprite it would work out the on screen points of the source pixels, and fill between them, which made some very interesting effects possible.
Ive only heard dev stories about doom as far as the 3DO is concered, would love to know more, having the 3DO as a teen about the same time I saw code for the first time.
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The idea of not being just a videogame was also bad. How could they think competing with PCs in this area was possible? If only VideoCD was available without an expansion, they could try to benefit from that, the same way PS2 did with DVD.
@@dtbjason think what would happen if nintendo provided an early dev-kit and specs to developers (as they did) and then downgraded the specs and hid half the required documentation from the developers, even in the case of SWI calls claiming no such things existed (think 68000 and trap calls). Half the time I was convinced their support had no concept of their hardware.
I remember seeing NFS and Road Rash for the first time on the 3DO and thinking "How can they get any better than this?" Road Rash soundtrack is amazing too.
It's an interesting console and unfortunately it didn't have time to get more support, it would have been nice if this, the Jaguar and 32X had been supported for a few more years, respecting consumers that chose these instead of waiting for the true 32-bit era to begin. Like you say, it still managed to receive a fair amount of quality titles. Most were ported to later consoles, but the originals usually look better on the 3DO, although they usually run slower too. It's impressive how FMVs look smoother than the Saturn or PS most of the time, and digitized images look great too.
I remember seeing Need for Speed for the first time on the 3DO. If my memory is correct, the presentation is actually a little better than the PS1 version in the menus and FMV clips.
I remember the trick on the PS1 of starting a game with a paperclip in the switch, CD door open, until the load screen and then swapping out a burned copy. I played the Japanese Ridge Racer this way.
Those machines were invincible, my ps1 had drinks dumped on it, weights dropped on it, girlfriend knocking it down and it survived for like ten years worth of moves. A true beast and my ps2 used to travel with me when I was working in rig camps, they sure don't build them like that anymore.
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries that's what I used it for too, fire pro wrestling on Saturn, it was my only japanese game. The roster was just so good!
That was an awesome review of the 3DO. An interesting platform to be sure. Your review of "Plumbers don't wear ties" is the funniest one i've ever heard. Had me laughing out loud.
The M2 may be the biggest "what if" in video games. I remember reading the video game mags back in the day and again recently thanks to Retromags and the specs were going to completely blow away other systems at the time. Of course specs don't mean anything if the software sucks, but we'll never know.
Burger Becky even put a cheat code into the 3DO port of Doom to take advantage of the M2's extra grunt, but that never came to pass. You can overclock the game via emulation to get an idea of how it might have run on the M2.
Bust a move got me thru 3 years of Harvard. It was in my rooming house in the laundry room In the basement. When the worker would need quarters he would empty the game and it was always super full to add to the laundry quarters. People use to do the reading on it while they played. Fifteen years after graduating at the reunion it was still in the basement. Love those neo geo dual cabs
Since you're a massive wrestling fan like me, here's a fun tidbit for ya: The actress who played Jane in Plumbers Don't Wear Ties is Jeanne Basone, who was one of the original ladies from G.L.O.W. named Hollywood!
I loved GLOW, but then I discovered the All Japan Women's Pro Wrestling and Reggie Bennett. Imagine if Xena Warrior Princess went to the gym and built herself up, that's Reggie.
@@midnightkitty8172 Did you watch the Dump Matsumoto miniseries on Netflix yet? Just came out the other day. Bull Nakano is my #1 favorite Japanese wrestler.
I never knew this system existed until I was watching Nostalgia nerd talk about this system when he was reviewing an Atari Jaguar, which I never knew existed either lol. Once I had a Nintendo, Sega Genesis and a Playstation, I never looked for any other systems. Thanks Pat! It's nice learning about other systems. Great job as always!
Had to be shopping video game stores, eb games, software etc, Babbage, it was like 700 bucks at launch. Dropped to 400 bucjs then 300plus most of its short life. Right before ps1 came out it dropped to around 200, it was at Walmart and most other stores, ps1 cane out crushed it, so in most consumers minds it was out a year, but in reality around 5 yr's.
The 3DO had a lot going for it when it was first announced. Unfortunately, the price killed it for a teenager like me. One other knock against it for me was many of the games you mentioned like Myst, Another World, Alone in the Dark, Wolfenstein 3D, Lemmings, and Wing Commander 3 were all on the PC first and my family had a decent CD-ROM equipped PC at the time. By the time the price of the 3DO came down enough for it to be truly competitive the PS1 was on the market with better hardware specs, the financial backing of Sony and a tidal wave of 3rd party support. The REAL tragedy of the 3DO is Trip Hawkins leaving EA in the early 90s to form the 3DO Company. Sure EA ended up getting huge after Trip left but w/o him they grew into 800 lb gorilla of a corporation that people loathe and hate. With Trip EA was a scrappy innovative developer who like you said used to treat their game designers like rock stars.
Thank you for showcasing so many of 3DO's stellar and noteworthy titles. The system really had an incredible library of diverse games of surprising quality. At the time if release, this system was the future itself distilled into a gaming machine. It was mindblowing for a moment in time, and deserved better. I wanted the M2 to release so bad.
Excellent video!!! This is the type of video I like. I seem to remember the Philips CD-I was around the same sort of time. Now that is also another system I would love to learn about. Thank you again.
Dear sir, your documentaries are really precious. They preserve the memories of videogames art, story, entertainment and I am pretty sure the fond memories of people like me, in their '50, who were and always will be in love with videogames. #onceyouareagamer #foreveragamer
24:53, he says "your parents are pressuring you into going out and finding a Sprouse" it happens to me when my mother pushing me to find a future girlfriend.
Great video as always. Two things: I loved Return Fire as well on the 3D0, it was a top-down wargame where you drove a tank and other military vehicles around just blowing stuff up to classical music (for those who don't know about it, I'm sure you did), and Way of the Warrior had one redeeming quality and that was the soundtrack was all tracks from White Zombie's "La Sexorcisto" album. The Dragon's Lair conversion was impeccable and Total Eclipse was a real blast. I rented that system so many times.
Wow, 40 minutes of 3DO. What did we do to deserve all this, Patman? I didn't get mine till some years later (and for next to nothing) in '99. I actually really liked both of the AD&D games, Guardian War, and it has my personal favorite version of Out of This World on it. It's no Playstation, but I feel it gets lumped in with the CD-I, and it was much better than that.
Thanks! It does get a bad rap nowadays and I don't understand why? It's not even close when compared to the CDI is the system actually had some really good games. Out of this world is especially fantastic and one of the best versions of the game available
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries I think a lot of it has to do with the initial price point of the system...BUT, look how expensive the PS3 was when it first came out. Nobody talks crap about it. It was right on the cusp of the change over to 32 bit architecture, so yeah, a lot of the early games were going to be clunky and ugly. Just like a lot of early PS1 games were. That insane price just killed any chance it had at success, though, as they didn't have the concept of also having it in arcades like the Neo-Geo did. I'll always enjoy tossing in Guardian War or Gex and playing a bit on mine.
3DO had potential as long as It stayed in their own lane without trying to compete with the 16 bit systems and up coming PSX, but they decided to to go all in and boy, they payed for it. Solid video PatmanQC. Keep on rocking sir!!
Having the pack-in game be called Crash 'n Burn seems kind of prophetic. I had read about the 3DO in magazines and I once saw one at a local Radio Shack, with the T-Rex chase portion of Jurassic Park on it, but never knew anyone who had one or saw any advertising for it. I have to say that after trying many of the games through emulation, I'm really not that impressed by it. I like Crash 'n Burn, but many of the other games have a kind of unfinished, beta feel to them. Of the games I tried that were available for both the 3DO and the PS1, I usually liked the PS1 versions better. The 2D games were fine, but with a console like this, you want it for its 3D power and many of those games tended to look kind of rough, even considering the time of its release.
Great video. Glad it appeared in my feed, took me back to a better time and brought back a lot of great memories as well. I always wanted an FZ-1 Panasonic model 3DO when it was originally released in 1993 but as with most other people, it was way too expensive for our household and me being only 13 or 14yo at the time of launch in 1993, I hadn't acquired my first job yet. When the system was officially discontinued in 1996, I had my first job and was finally able to pick up an FZ-10 Panasonic 3DO model from Best Buy for only $100...happy days back then. I then went across the street to Circuit City and picked up 5 or 6 games at also ridiculously low, discontinued pricing. I played the hell out of that system until it finally died in 2000, or maybe even 2001. It had so many great games, always hated that it didn't last longer and did better sales wise but the ridiculous, original cost of it doomed it from the beginning, just like the SNK Neo Geo doomed its system as well. Such a great time back then, wish I could go back. Lol.
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries I was surprised as well because it had a high amount of playtime on it, and it also had been unplugged and taken with me to friends houses and family get togethers as well. Apparently, I got lucky and had gotten ahold of a great built system. I didn't know anyone else that had ever had one at the time, so I never knew how long they would typically last. It was well cared for, but also highly played with as well. I never replaced it, even though I always wanted to, due to the high and entirely too much asking prices on eBay and Amazon, even for a used system. The cost of a used one now is even worse, so I'll probably never own one again...unless I get lucky at some point. Lol. Thanks again for the video, and take care.
What’s this? A discussion/review of the 3DO that doesn’t involve completely pooping on it?? INCONCEIVABLE! I love your content & this is by far one of my favorite videos of yours. I still play the same FZ-10 I’ve had for over 25 years & i still love it just as much as i did when it was new.
Thank you. I always like the 3DO. It's nowhere near as robust as some of the earlier systems but It still had some pretty good games on it. People try to get Views by crapping on something but if you are fan of my channel you know I try to be fair and everything I take a look at.
I still have my FZ-10 and it still works to this day. Bought it on layaway from Walmart for $199. The best part about it was that it effectively died a few months later so all the games were on clearance everywhere. Grabbed just about everything that was out at the time. We even had a couple liquidators come through and they all had 3D0 games for $5! Again, I bought everything!
We owned a Goldstar 3DO, back in the day. We bought it from Costco (remember when it used to sell consoles?). There were a few games that required you to switch discs (Daedalus Encounter). "You found a key! Insert disc 2. You used the key on a door! Insert disc 3. You opened the door! Insert disc 4..."
Awesome video. I didn’t realize how many great games there were for the 3do. Back then, I always wanted the Neo Geo, but at 11 years old when they came out, could never afford either one of them.
I can remember the Need for Speed tagline "cars drive like they should, so you can drive them like you shouldn't" I spent the entire time in the game doing burnouts for the entire length of the track. Just like everyone would drive the wrong way in Indy 500 trying to make the biggest crash to replay.
Ginger Lynn (also in WC4) was working at a SIGGRAPH convention in New Orleans some years after WC4 and I got to talk to her. She said that a sequel to WC4 starring herself and Mark H. was in the works, though obviously that version ultimately didn't happen. Ginger was appearing to promote a 3D software mapping app that came with a 3D model of her body.
Thanks for the video.. I was in the $700 club and had an early unit. I am a sports gamer so I had to get the system for Madden, slam N jam basketball and foes of Ali… all with mixed results. The load times in this thing killed me !
The Panasonic 3DO is TheFirstTime I Played "Need for Speed" & another Fighting Game that's BackGround Music was WhiteZombie's Second Album, "La Sexorcisto" Devil Music Vol.1! (We Played that Game Just to *Listen* to ThunderKiss'65!)
Goldstar 3D0, I Remember they were doing that with other builds sourcing like CD-i and Magnavox or Philips, even Sega JVC had a fling. It's a really interesting idea on paper so to speak. I think it's pretty difficult to sell a home system for 600 to 800 dollars when Sega Saturn, Sony Playstation were just about to be released. Most of the people wanted to spend that money on 3D0 might as well just get a Personal Computer.
Yeah the business model wasn't bad, and the hardware wasn't bad, but those two things didn't work well together. The bleeding edge tech (for the time) meant it was expensive to produce, and since the manufacturers didn't get a cut of game sales, they had to sell the hardware for a high price to make a profit. I've often wondered if the system would have succeeded if it were put out exclusively by a big electronics manufacturer and sold at a loss like most consoles, or if the business model would have succeeded if it were applied to innovative but low-cost hardware like the Nintendo Wii (which was very cheap to produce since it wasn't trying to be a graphical powerhouse).
Thanks for this one my friend. You know that I'm a retro / emulation junkie from discussions on EAB, and have numerous systems set up: ... Amiga ... Arcade via MAME ... Daphne / Singe ... FM Towns / Marty ... PC Engine ... Playstation ... Playstation 2 ... Sega Megadrive ... Sharp X68000 ... Super Nintendo ... etc. I've do have stuff that I downloaded many moons ago for the 3DO; but never got around to trying, guess I need to give them a bash ;-)
I've been collecting videogame systems for a long time with my first one being a pong System in the late 70s. Aside from the PS5 and Vita I have just about every American system that was released. I never got into any Japanese systems but always wanted X68000 . I am so jealous :-)
11:22 surely this is a mistake, "DVD remote"? For the 3DO? I bought the FZ-10 back in 1996, I can't recall there every being DVD functionality, I recall the rare mpeg unit that hook up to the console. I didn't hear about DVD in gaming till the rumors of PS2 having the ability around early 1999.
How did you miss the turbo Duo? It never really stood a chance in the States but they at least gave it a try. When it came out it came with five games or so. Not that it ever stood a chance.
Great video and a very long forgotten great system. Lost many an hour to Wing Commander 3 and Star Control 2. Both are probably the systems best and well worth going back to today.
Your opening up old wounds....I sold a few rare sports cards to buy this system at launch. I believe I had Madden, Alone in the dark, Way of the warrior, wing commander 2 , out of this world and road rash. Wing Commander and Road rash were amazing, everything else.... not so much. But I did enjoy just popping in a music CD and watching the colors swirl on the TV to the music.
I remember playing the prototype of Total Eclipse at the CES in Chicago back in 93. I thought it was very impressive for the time. The game was still in the early beta stage of development and no enemies were added yet. I was convinced this was going to be the next generation until they announced the price…
I was at that show as well but don't recall playing this unit. I do recall the giant Mortal Kombat booth that was set up to show off the home versions of game and literally running into the entire cast of the game. I could not believe how short Johnny cage actor Daniel Pesina was real life
Love your videos . The 1st time i played one of these was at this bussiness that had every system back in the day and you paid to play all the games they had. Same place that i played neo geo and did my 1st game toury with bonk . ahhh the good old days
Great history lesson. Wonderful content. The topic is dear to my heart as I was a 90s child and teen. The 3DO was too expensive. I think 500ish in the mall?
I had a Panasonic one and loved the heck out of that system. Wing Commander 3, Return Fire, Cannon Fodder. I wished I got Star Control 2, Road Rash, or Samurai Showdown. Did enjoy Crash n Burn and Total Eclipse and Shockwave. But my best memories was passing the controller around with my family as we played Pebble Beach or teasing my siblings as I beat them in Madden. I miss that system.
I can remember the Megadrive had the Master System converter which was really only a cartridge adapator as it had a chip on the console to play 8bit games. 3DO always seemed a bit pie in the sky and I never saw one in the wild like the Neo Geo.
D I definitely remember we had for 3DO before the PSX/Saturn versions. very interesting concept for the time. we also had Super SF2 TURBO! kind of a pain to play on a stock 3DO pad, but we did have the soldier pad. and yeah the new remixes were good stuff!! The Need For Speed, my dad was ALL about that one! my favorite part had to be the jerk opponent who always taunted you in the cutscenes, and the actual digitized interiors that were modeled after each car! same for Road Rash! aside from the fact the licensed tracks only played in the menus, but another rare fun one on 3DO! Gex I kinda enjoyed, actually.
I didn't get a chance to get one of the these but it looks awesome. I'm a huge fan of the sega cd and it looks similar to the system but better graphics. Awesome job with the vid Pat! 👊
I was maybe 15, when I got a summer job at a nursing home. It seemed like the longest summer ever, saving up for the 3DO. My favorite game for the system was Hell a cyberpunk thriller.
Wow I have never even heard of that Demolition Man game, the movie is one of my favorites. So I guess now there are more reasons for me to purchase a 3DO.
It's really cool how the actors did all these extra things for the game. And we are talking about diddly little TV stars were talking about major Hollywood superstars. Very cool indeed
A friend and I had a great weekend playing Crash and Burn and Hell on a rented 3DO back around '96. Looking back it really doesnt seem as amazing as it did then, and hasnt even aged as well as most Nintendo 64 games have. Thanks for the retrospecitve. I would love to see more systems covered. CDi perhaps :)
Just a little FYI: Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 wasn't as far along in development as you suggest. I have all of the original design documents and the port was no where near complete when it was canceled (which is part of the reason WHY it was canceled).
I was a kid when the 3DO released, so naturally I was much more interested in its more mainstream (and cheaper) contemporaries. For the longest time I had always written off the games for the console as basically shovelware, but I recently played the Saturn port of Sword & Sorcery (Lucienne's Quest in English), and I was shocked by how charming and fun it was (despite its many, many flaws). Granted, it's a bit different in its presentation on the Saturn, but knowing that it originated on the 3DO got me interested. The Ur-Quan Masters is another game I enjoyed that I was surprised to find got a lot of love from its developers on the 3DO.
So grateful to my buddy back in the mid to late 90's who just happened to actually have a 3DO and actually let me borrow it for couple days at a time. RoadRash and DrugWars took most my time, good times 😎 oh and 'Killing Time' in the dark! 😬👍
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries The PC version, which got released later, is actually inferior to the 3DO version in my opinion. They changed too much of what made the original version so compelling.
Much like the Neo Geo, the 3DO was a system that I salivated over but could not afford. As mentioned in the video, I ended up playing classics like Road Rash and D on the much more affordable PS1.
@@daerth4423 It's pretty telling that Neo Geo games from 30 years ago hold up so well to this day. Last summer I bought Baseball Stars 2 for $8 on PSN and got far more enjoyment from it than the bulk of new releases.
I worked in EB Games just when the PS1 was being launched, and there was a huge push to shift the 3DO before it launched as they knew the writing was on the wall when it did. So there was a marketing campaign called "Don't Buy a Dodo, Buy 3DO" We used to find it funny to stickers over the "Don't" part 😂
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I got a PS1 on release day because some moron put the bag on his roof and yep ....they took off. Paid cash too so no way to determine the owner. Store said keep it
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Fantastic, 40 minutes of my boy Pat Man talking about a console that I love, I’m onboard for that!!
Thanks a lot
For real
@PatmanQC - History of arcade game documentaries did u find that Xbox Dragon lair game I mentioned? Maybe u can talk about it?
The 80’s and 90’s, what a time to be alive. To live through the golden age of console gaming was an absolute blast. The 3DO FZ-10 was one of my all-time favorites, not to mention Samurai Shodown and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo were still relevant fighters when they were released. I can't even count how many times I had sleepovers just to play fighters all night with friends. I can still feel the excitement. Those years are highly missed.
I've done the same thing :-) staying up all night playing Street fighter two on the super Nintendo
I played on SNES
I bought 3D0 upon release at Macy’s for $700. Loved World Interceptor, Road Rash, Crash and Burn and especially Monster Manor. Along with my Neo Geo AES in 1993 my gaming needs were met.
Am I the only one who enjoyed the heck out of these two videos ?
My friend back in high school in1995 had the Panasonic one and I played the system once . I never knew much else about that game system until these videos .
Kudos Patmanqc!
Happy little rich games . . . . . . . Doesn't take a genius (luckily for me) to see that you put massive amounts of work into these videos. One of these days I'll be able to compensate you just a bit for all the hours and hours of terrific entertainment you've given all of us PatmanQC! Thank you brother!
I appreciate the nice words, thanks
3DO was in the main ruined by their 'engineers'. I had a first gen devkit on my desk, running at 12.5Mhz. The final system was specced to run a 25Mhz ARM, but several months into working on it they informed all developers it would be limited to 12.5Mhz "because it is not possible to run the ARM at 25Mhz". Completely wrong of course, I'd had a 25Mhz ARM 3 running in a Acorn Achimedes for well over a year by then. They were also extremely cagey about exposing their SWI calls to those of us writing in assembler, insisting everything be done through their libraries. Quite liked the Maria sprite system though, rather than simply stretch the sprite it would work out the on screen points of the source pixels, and fill between them, which made some very interesting effects possible.
Ive only heard dev stories about doom as far as the 3DO is concered, would love to know more, having the 3DO as a teen about the same time I saw code for the first time.
The idea of not being just a videogame was also bad. How could they think competing with PCs in this area was possible? If only VideoCD was available without an expansion, they could try to benefit from that, the same way PS2 did with DVD.
Would you like to join the 3do dev discord?
@@dtbjason think what would happen if nintendo provided an early dev-kit and specs to developers (as they did) and then downgraded the specs and hid half the required documentation from the developers, even in the case of SWI calls claiming no such things existed (think 68000 and trap calls). Half the time I was convinced their support had no concept of their hardware.
@ an issue VMLabs tried to get around with their Nuon chip. Would have been great were it not for excessive delays.
Pat you always make my 3rd shift a little better... thnx.
All very nice of you to say, thanks
I remember seeing NFS and Road Rash for the first time on the 3DO and thinking "How can they get any better than this?" Road Rash soundtrack is amazing too.
They absolutely were fantastic for their time
The truth: it did not
It's an interesting console and unfortunately it didn't have time to get more support, it would have been nice if this, the Jaguar and 32X had been supported for a few more years, respecting consumers that chose these instead of waiting for the true 32-bit era to begin. Like you say, it still managed to receive a fair amount of quality titles. Most were ported to later consoles, but the originals usually look better on the 3DO, although they usually run slower too. It's impressive how FMVs look smoother than the Saturn or PS most of the time, and digitized images look great too.
"Happy little game" makes me smile. Thank you PatMan, hope you're having a good day
Thanks a lot, I hope you are as well
I got rudely interrupted yesterday about halfway through this video. So I'm finishing it now!
Keep up the console docs, brother!
Thanks hope you enjoyed it
I remember seeing Need for Speed for the first time on the 3DO. If my memory is correct, the presentation is actually a little better than the PS1 version in the menus and FMV clips.
I remember the trick on the PS1 of starting a game with a paperclip in the switch, CD door open, until the load screen and then swapping out a burned copy. I played the Japanese Ridge Racer this way.
Those machines were invincible, my ps1 had drinks dumped on it, weights dropped on it, girlfriend knocking it down and it survived for like ten years worth of moves. A true beast and my ps2 used to travel with me when I was working in rig camps, they sure don't build them like that anymore.
On Saturn I remember I taped the switch down
The good old disc swapping trick :-) I use it for the fire Pro wrestling game which cannot think what the actual title was
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries that's what I used it for too, fire pro wrestling on Saturn, it was my only japanese game. The roster was just so good!
That was an awesome review of the 3DO. An interesting platform to be sure. Your review of "Plumbers don't wear ties" is the funniest one i've ever heard. Had me laughing out loud.
Thanks, glad my silly little jokes could bring You some joy :-)
The M2 may be the biggest "what if" in video games. I remember reading the video game mags back in the day and again recently thanks to Retromags and the specs were going to completely blow away other systems at the time. Of course specs don't mean anything if the software sucks, but we'll never know.
Burger Becky even put a cheat code into the 3DO port of Doom to take advantage of the M2's extra grunt, but that never came to pass. You can overclock the game via emulation to get an idea of how it might have run on the M2.
I agree. I remember the hype around the technology back in the day. My initial thought was "I can't afford a 3DO let alone an M2"
Bust a move got me thru 3 years of Harvard. It was in my rooming house in the laundry room In the basement. When the worker would need quarters he would empty the game and it was always super full to add to the laundry quarters. People use to do the reading on it while they played. Fifteen years after graduating at the reunion it was still in the basement. Love those neo geo dual cabs
It is such a great game and has really stood the test of time
Since you're a massive wrestling fan like me, here's a fun tidbit for ya: The actress who played Jane in Plumbers Don't Wear Ties is Jeanne Basone, who was one of the original ladies from G.L.O.W. named Hollywood!
That's a deep cut. Well done!
@@thecorpulentcad6803 Thank ya kindly.
Nice, did not notice that
I loved GLOW, but then I discovered the All Japan Women's Pro Wrestling and Reggie Bennett.
Imagine if Xena Warrior Princess went to the gym and built herself up, that's Reggie.
@@midnightkitty8172 Did you watch the Dump Matsumoto miniseries on Netflix yet? Just came out the other day. Bull Nakano is my #1 favorite Japanese wrestler.
I never knew this system existed until I was watching Nostalgia nerd talk about this system when he was reviewing an Atari Jaguar, which I never knew existed either lol. Once I had a Nintendo, Sega Genesis and a Playstation, I never looked for any other systems. Thanks Pat! It's nice learning about other systems. Great job as always!
Had to be shopping video game stores, eb games, software etc, Babbage, it was like 700 bucks at launch. Dropped to 400 bucjs then 300plus most of its short life. Right before ps1 came out it dropped to around 200, it was at Walmart and most other stores, ps1 cane out crushed it, so in most consumers minds it was out a year, but in reality around 5 yr's.
Thanks a lot, I appreciated. I was blown away by the graphics first came out but like I said way too rich for my blood
Diehard Gamefan Magazine and Next Generation Magazine were favorites of mine that gave great coverage to non Nintendo/Sega 32bit/64bit systems.
I love this long form format of RUclips historianship. Subbed 🥰
I remember an old episode of Gamepro talking about the game. I was shocked on the price.
Almost as much as a Neo Geo
Woo. I feel your channel is highly underrated. I want to start doing history videos on my channel and I’m learning from you my man.
How nice of you to say, thanks
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries I mean it. I’m glad you’re doing more original content vs the remastered.
@@NOTLeavingLV 99% of my videos are original content but some of my first videos had poor equipment which I've since upgraded
The 3DO had a lot going for it when it was first announced. Unfortunately, the price killed it for a teenager like me. One other knock against it for me was many of the games you mentioned like Myst, Another World, Alone in the Dark, Wolfenstein 3D, Lemmings, and Wing Commander 3 were all on the PC first and my family had a decent CD-ROM equipped PC at the time.
By the time the price of the 3DO came down enough for it to be truly competitive the PS1 was on the market with better hardware specs, the financial backing of Sony and a tidal wave of 3rd party support.
The REAL tragedy of the 3DO is Trip Hawkins leaving EA in the early 90s to form the 3DO Company. Sure EA ended up getting huge after Trip left but w/o him they grew into 800 lb gorilla of a corporation that people loathe and hate. With Trip EA was a scrappy innovative developer who like you said used to treat their game designers like rock stars.
Haha. Her description of LA was great.
LOL, that whole game is just absurd :-)
Thank you for showcasing so many of 3DO's stellar and noteworthy titles. The system really had an incredible library of diverse games of surprising quality. At the time if release, this system was the future itself distilled into a gaming machine. It was mindblowing for a moment in time, and deserved better. I wanted the M2 to release so bad.
Thanks for watching, yes I agree I'm curious what games of that system would've looked like
I look forward to hearing "Happy little games"
Thanks :-)
Great video as always pat.
Thanks 👍
Fantastic video man, I utterly enjoyed it!
Thanks a ton!
as a kid I wanted one just for SSF2T...looked amazing in all those screen shots.
It was fantastic
Excellent video!!! This is the type of video I like. I seem to remember the Philips CD-I was around the same sort of time. Now that is also another system I would love to learn about. Thank you again.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate that. If there is enough interest I could do one on the CDI at some point as well
Dear sir, your documentaries are really precious. They preserve the memories of videogames art, story, entertainment and I am pretty sure the fond memories of people like me, in their '50, who were and always will be in love with videogames.
#onceyouareagamer #foreveragamer
Thanks a lot, I'm glad I could scratch that nostalgic itch :-)
Dude that Tim and Eric clip you used is like my favorite of all time lol
LOL, thanks
24:53, he says "your parents are pressuring you into going out and finding a Sprouse" it happens to me when my mother pushing me to find a future girlfriend.
LOL
Great video as always. Two things: I loved Return Fire as well on the 3D0, it was a top-down wargame where you drove a tank and other military vehicles around just blowing stuff up to classical music (for those who don't know about it, I'm sure you did), and Way of the Warrior had one redeeming quality and that was the soundtrack was all tracks from White Zombie's "La Sexorcisto" album. The Dragon's Lair conversion was impeccable and Total Eclipse was a real blast. I rented that system so many times.
Thanks. I wasn't aware of white zombie doing the soundtrack until I got a copyright strike When I was showing way of the warrior in the video
when i get drunk i write on a napkin "drink water" -- tryp hawkins writes "invent 3DO"
love me some 3do
LOL, you and me both
Wow, 40 minutes of 3DO. What did we do to deserve all this, Patman?
I didn't get mine till some years later (and for next to nothing) in '99. I actually really liked both of the AD&D games, Guardian War, and it has my personal favorite version of Out of This World on it. It's no Playstation, but I feel it gets lumped in with the CD-I, and it was much better than that.
Thanks! It does get a bad rap nowadays and I don't understand why? It's not even close when compared to the CDI is the system actually had some really good games. Out of this world is especially fantastic and one of the best versions of the game available
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries I think a lot of it has to do with the initial price point of the system...BUT, look how expensive the PS3 was when it first came out. Nobody talks crap about it. It was right on the cusp of the change over to 32 bit architecture, so yeah, a lot of the early games were going to be clunky and ugly. Just like a lot of early PS1 games were. That insane price just killed any chance it had at success, though, as they didn't have the concept of also having it in arcades like the Neo-Geo did. I'll always enjoy tossing in Guardian War or Gex and playing a bit on mine.
3DO had potential as long as It stayed in their own lane without trying to compete with the 16 bit systems and up coming PSX, but they decided to to go all in and boy, they payed for it. Solid video PatmanQC. Keep on rocking sir!!
Having the pack-in game be called Crash 'n Burn seems kind of prophetic.
I had read about the 3DO in magazines and I once saw one at a local Radio Shack, with the T-Rex chase portion of Jurassic Park on it, but never knew anyone who had one or saw any advertising for it.
I have to say that after trying many of the games through emulation, I'm really not that impressed by it. I like Crash 'n Burn, but many of the other games have a kind of unfinished, beta feel to them. Of the games I tried that were available for both the 3DO and the PS1, I usually liked the PS1 versions better. The 2D games were fine, but with a console like this, you want it for its 3D power and many of those games tended to look kind of rough, even considering the time of its release.
Great video. Glad it appeared in my feed, took me back to a better time and brought back a lot of great memories as well. I always wanted an FZ-1 Panasonic model 3DO when it was originally released in 1993 but as with most other people, it was way too expensive for our household and me being only 13 or 14yo at the time of launch in 1993, I hadn't acquired my first job yet. When the system was officially discontinued in 1996, I had my first job and was finally able to pick up an FZ-10 Panasonic 3DO model from Best Buy for only $100...happy days back then. I then went across the street to Circuit City and picked up 5 or 6 games at also ridiculously low, discontinued pricing. I played the hell out of that system until it finally died in 2000, or maybe even 2001. It had so many great games, always hated that it didn't last longer and did better sales wise but the ridiculous, original cost of it doomed it from the beginning, just like the SNK Neo Geo doomed its system as well. Such a great time back then, wish I could go back. Lol.
That is fantastic, I'm surprised it lasted that long! Heckuva price to. Thanks
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries I was surprised as well because it had a high amount of playtime on it, and it also had been unplugged and taken with me to friends houses and family get togethers as well. Apparently, I got lucky and had gotten ahold of a great built system. I didn't know anyone else that had ever had one at the time, so I never knew how long they would typically last. It was well cared for, but also highly played with as well. I never replaced it, even though I always wanted to, due to the high and entirely too much asking prices on eBay and Amazon, even for a used system. The cost of a used one now is even worse, so I'll probably never own one again...unless I get lucky at some point. Lol. Thanks again for the video, and take care.
What’s this? A discussion/review of the 3DO that doesn’t involve completely pooping on it?? INCONCEIVABLE! I love your content & this is by far one of my favorite videos of yours. I still play the same FZ-10 I’ve had for over 25 years & i still love it just as much as i did when it was new.
Thank you. I always like the 3DO. It's nowhere near as robust as some of the earlier systems but It still had some pretty good games on it. People try to get Views by crapping on something but if you are fan of my channel you know I try to be fair and everything I take a look at.
For everyone here that doesn't give a full diaper worth of care to the Super Bowl- thanks Pat!!!!
Absolutely, thanks for watching
I still have my FZ-10 and it still works to this day. Bought it on layaway from Walmart for $199.
The best part about it was that it effectively died a few months later so all the games were on clearance everywhere. Grabbed just about everything that was out at the time.
We even had a couple liquidators come through and they all had 3D0 games for $5! Again, I bought everything!
You forgot the original party game: Twisted!!!
Stay tuned
We owned a Goldstar 3DO, back in the day.
We bought it from Costco (remember when it used to sell consoles?).
There were a few games that required you to switch discs (Daedalus Encounter).
"You found a key! Insert disc 2. You used the key on a door! Insert disc 3. You opened the door! Insert disc 4..."
Omg Ive been waiting for 3DO love, watching right away!
Excellent, hope you enjoyed it
Thank you Pacmanqc. Man, your videos are awesome 👍👍👍
Thank you so much :-)
Awesome video. I didn’t realize how many great games there were for the 3do. Back then, I always wanted the Neo Geo, but at 11 years old when they came out, could never afford either one of them.
Glad you enjoyed!
I can remember the Need for Speed tagline "cars drive like they should, so you can drive them like you shouldn't" I spent the entire time in the game doing burnouts for the entire length of the track. Just like everyone would drive the wrong way in Indy 500 trying to make the biggest crash to replay.
20:25 this game came out at a real low point in Hamill's career. I remember thinking at the time how sad it was.
Ginger Lynn (also in WC4) was working at a SIGGRAPH convention in New Orleans some years after WC4 and I got to talk to her. She said that a sequel to WC4 starring herself and Mark H. was in the works, though obviously that version ultimately didn't happen. Ginger was appearing to promote a 3D software mapping app that came with a 3D model of her body.
Thanks for the video.. I was in the $700 club and had an early unit. I am a sports gamer so I had to get the system for Madden, slam N jam basketball and foes of Ali… all with mixed results. The load times in this thing killed me !
Thanks for watching, I didn't think the load times were that bad especially when compared to the Neo Geo CD and its single speed CD-ROM drive
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries I remember crash and burn and road rash being long. But I came from DOS gaming at the point. :)
Great video! 👍👍 I rented the 3DO from Super Latest and Greatest once, and had a blast with it over a weekend.
That's awesome! Thank you
The Panasonic 3DO is TheFirstTime I Played "Need for Speed" & another Fighting Game that's BackGround Music was WhiteZombie's Second Album, "La Sexorcisto" Devil Music Vol.1!
(We Played that Game Just to *Listen* to ThunderKiss'65!)
The fighting game was way of the warrior
Goldstar 3D0, I Remember they were doing that with other builds sourcing like CD-i and Magnavox or Philips, even Sega JVC had a fling. It's a really interesting idea on paper so to speak. I think it's pretty difficult to sell a home system for 600 to 800 dollars when Sega Saturn, Sony Playstation were just about to be released. Most of the people wanted to spend that money on 3D0 might as well just get a Personal Computer.
Yeah the business model wasn't bad, and the hardware wasn't bad, but those two things didn't work well together. The bleeding edge tech (for the time) meant it was expensive to produce, and since the manufacturers didn't get a cut of game sales, they had to sell the hardware for a high price to make a profit.
I've often wondered if the system would have succeeded if it were put out exclusively by a big electronics manufacturer and sold at a loss like most consoles, or if the business model would have succeeded if it were applied to innovative but low-cost hardware like the Nintendo Wii (which was very cheap to produce since it wasn't trying to be a graphical powerhouse).
6:45...
That's a Sweet Jaguar Collection!
(I think I Played a Jaguar Game Called "Foresaken".)
That system could be on my list at some point. Thanks
Thanks for this one my friend. You know that I'm a retro / emulation junkie from discussions on EAB, and have numerous systems set up:
... Amiga
... Arcade via MAME
... Daphne / Singe
... FM Towns / Marty
... PC Engine
... Playstation
... Playstation 2
... Sega Megadrive
... Sharp X68000
... Super Nintendo
... etc.
I've do have stuff that I downloaded many moons ago for the 3DO; but never got around to trying, guess I need to give them a bash ;-)
I've been collecting videogame systems for a long time with my first one being a pong System in the late 70s. Aside from the PS5 and Vita I have just about every American system that was released. I never got into any Japanese systems but always wanted X68000 . I am so jealous :-)
Some of those old games still get me going.
Nightmare Creatures, for one.
Maybe some Twisted Metal?
Einhander?
The list goes on.
This must be an utter coincidence because last night I randomly downloaded Gex from Good Ol’ Games. No idea why I had a hankering to play it.
LOL, maybe you are psychic
Great stuff Pat
Thanks
Bit of a bad omen that the only title available at launch was "Crash and Burn". Just sayin.
No kidding :-)
11:22 surely this is a mistake, "DVD remote"?
For the 3DO? I bought the FZ-10 back in 1996, I can't recall there every being DVD functionality, I recall the rare mpeg unit that hook up to the console.
I didn't hear about DVD in gaming till the rumors of PS2 having the ability around early 1999.
How did you miss the turbo Duo? It never really stood a chance in the States but they at least gave it a try. When it came out it came with five games or so. Not that it ever stood a chance.
"the frequency of a ham radio" hahahaha LOVE IT!
LOL, thanks :-)
31:48...
WTF is That?!?
A Mutated Baby-Bird?!?
This is a good overview. Worth pointing out the best version of one of my favourite platformers Soccer Kid is the 3DO version. 😊
Thanks a lot my friend
33:46...
Xbox Notification on a Mad Dog McCree Game?!? 😜
I worked at Babbages in 1995 and we had a Goldstar 3DO sitting on a shelf, literally gathering dust.
I always wanted to work in a videogame store. The closest I got was lead PC technician And software salesman But at least I was in a commercial :-)
Return Fire was a beast on the 3DO. Flight of the Valkyries blasting while rolling up on the enemy base was great.
You're telling me, it was excellent. Stay tuned ;-)
Great video and a very long forgotten great system. Lost many an hour to Wing Commander 3 and Star Control 2. Both are probably the systems best and well worth going back to today.
Thanks, it's definitely underrated system in my opinion
Your opening up old wounds....I sold a few rare sports cards to buy this system at launch. I believe I had Madden, Alone in the dark, Way of the warrior, wing commander 2 , out of this world and road rash. Wing Commander and Road rash were amazing, everything else.... not so much. But I did enjoy just popping in a music CD and watching the colors swirl on the TV to the music.
Yes, the interactive light show was fantastic. There were some good games on the 3DO as well though
I remember playing the prototype of Total Eclipse at the CES in Chicago back in 93. I thought it was very impressive for the time. The game was still in the early beta stage of development and no enemies were added yet. I was convinced this was going to be the next generation until they announced the price…
I was at that show as well but don't recall playing this unit. I do recall the giant Mortal Kombat booth that was set up to show off the home versions of game and literally running into the entire cast of the game. I could not believe how short Johnny cage actor Daniel Pesina was real life
Love your videos . The 1st time i played one of these was at this bussiness that had every system back in the day and you paid to play all the games they had. Same place that i played neo geo and did my 1st game toury with bonk . ahhh the good old days
You should have covered Return Fire. Best game on the system!
I had the Panasonic 3do when I was in 8th grade. I worked as a custodial aid to pay half of it. Mom's paid the rest. 😀👍👍
Very cool
Great history lesson. Wonderful content. The topic is dear to my heart as I was a 90s child and teen. The 3DO was too expensive. I think 500ish in the mall?
It could be, a debuted at 699 before being dropped rather quickly to 599. Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
Awesome video buddy I love 3do games i saw a infomercial on that in 94 while I'll stay up late
Thanks a lot my friend hope you enjoy it
I feel kinda nostalgic for the age of multimedia.
Go play night trap and get back to me LOL
Darn that price tag! Because otherwise it would have been a pretty cool alternative platform. Thanks for an excellent review!
I loved when Retsupurae riffed the long plays of the original trilogy of the Alone in The Dark games.
I had a Panasonic one and loved the heck out of that system. Wing Commander 3, Return Fire, Cannon Fodder. I wished I got Star Control 2, Road Rash, or Samurai Showdown. Did enjoy Crash n Burn and Total Eclipse and Shockwave. But my best memories was passing the controller around with my family as we played Pebble Beach or teasing my siblings as I beat them in Madden. I miss that system.
That's fantastic, thank you for sharing
3DO helped make my 90s experience what it was. I still play mine on occasion and bought a second one.
Excellent, there is some pretty good games for the system
Thanks for your vids ❤️📼
Glad you like them!
Good and bad memories! Enjoyable video!
Yes! Thank you!
Love
your channel
Thanks a lot my friend
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries no thank you!!!
A local video store had the total eclipse playable as a demo in store. The only time I got to play the 3DO, but was surprised it didn't do better.
That was such a fantastic showpiece for the hardware
I can remember the Megadrive had the Master System converter which was really only a cartridge adapator as it had a chip on the console to play 8bit games. 3DO always seemed a bit pie in the sky and I never saw one in the wild like the Neo Geo.
D I definitely remember we had for 3DO before the PSX/Saturn versions. very interesting concept for the time. we also had Super SF2 TURBO! kind of a pain to play on a stock 3DO pad, but we did have the soldier pad. and yeah the new remixes were good stuff!! The Need For Speed, my dad was ALL about that one! my favorite part had to be the jerk opponent who always taunted you in the cutscenes, and the actual digitized interiors that were modeled after each car! same for Road Rash! aside from the fact the licensed tracks only played in the menus, but another rare fun one on 3DO! Gex I kinda enjoyed, actually.
I didn't get a chance to get one of the these but it looks awesome. I'm a huge fan of the sega cd and it looks similar to the system but better graphics. Awesome job with the vid Pat! 👊
Thanks a lot, I'm sure I'll be tackling the Sega CD at some point
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries can't wait 🔥
Love your videos
Thank you so much
Admirable of Trip to credit the developers like that. That should be the standard today. I miss when more companies made their own gaming platform.
I agree, it definitely should be the standard
Very interesting video 👍👍
Thank you very much!
I was maybe 15, when I got a summer job at a nursing home. It seemed like the longest summer ever, saving up for the 3DO. My favorite game for the system was Hell a cyberpunk thriller.
Excellent, I've never played that game before
Wow I have never even heard of that Demolition Man game, the movie is one of my favorites. So I guess now there are more reasons for me to purchase a 3DO.
It's really cool how the actors did all these extra things for the game. And we are talking about diddly little TV stars were talking about major Hollywood superstars. Very cool indeed
A friend and I had a great weekend playing Crash and Burn and Hell on a rented 3DO back around '96. Looking back it really doesnt seem as amazing as it did then, and hasnt even aged as well as most Nintendo 64 games have. Thanks for the retrospecitve. I would love to see more systems covered. CDi perhaps :)
So far this video seems well received so perhaps I'll tackle something else in the future
Just a little FYI: Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 wasn't as far along in development as you suggest. I have all of the original design documents and the port was no where near complete when it was canceled (which is part of the reason WHY it was canceled).
Thanks for the info
"The Shoe, The Shoe!"
(Remember?... I Do.)
Thanks for doing this, I used to have a 3DO.
Absolutely, thanks for watching
I've been playing Killing Time with an arcade stick I bought for some old-school gaming goodness. It is a blast!
That sounds fantastic
I was a kid when the 3DO released, so naturally I was much more interested in its more mainstream (and cheaper) contemporaries. For the longest time I had always written off the games for the console as basically shovelware, but I recently played the Saturn port of Sword & Sorcery (Lucienne's Quest in English), and I was shocked by how charming and fun it was (despite its many, many flaws). Granted, it's a bit different in its presentation on the Saturn, but knowing that it originated on the 3DO got me interested. The Ur-Quan Masters is another game I enjoyed that I was surprised to find got a lot of love from its developers on the 3DO.
That game is a lot of fun. I was pleasantly surprised going back and playing it for this video
So grateful to my buddy back in the mid to late 90's who just happened to actually have a 3DO and actually let me borrow it for couple days at a time. RoadRash and DrugWars took most my time, good times 😎 oh and 'Killing Time' in the dark! 😬👍
Killing Time had one of the BEST uses of FMV in a game, using it to tell the story as in-engine hot-spots that activate as you approach.
@@SomeOrangeCatKT also has some of my favorite audio ever..the gun when you reload as well the ducks you can step on 💯♥️
Yes, killing time is great. Stay tuned ;-)
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries The PC version, which got released later, is actually inferior to the 3DO version in my opinion. They changed too much of what made the original version so compelling.
Much like the Neo Geo, the 3DO was a system that I salivated over but could not afford. As mentioned in the video, I ended up playing classics like Road Rash and D on the much more affordable PS1.
The 3DO couldn't hold a candle to the Neo Geo.
@@daerth4423 It's pretty telling that Neo Geo games from 30 years ago hold up so well to this day. Last summer I bought Baseball Stars 2 for $8 on PSN and got far more enjoyment from it than the bulk of new releases.
Absolutely, the Neo Geo games are still immensely playable especially wind jammers which is probably my favorite game on the system
Glad I watched till the end .
Excellent, glad you enjoyed it