I feel like vince doesnt spend that much time playtesting his game.. if he did he would be able to tell if a levels too easy or too hard instead of leaving it to the fans to judge. I sure can since ive spent 500+ hours on the game. But sure... for vince i would just be an insignificant voice in the sea of the fans.. why would he listen to me specifically? Or anyone else for that matter. But sometimes it feels like vince doesnt know his own game. You tell him an obvious bug thats been left for months for everyone to experience. And hes not sure if its a bug or because of a potato pc. I feel like he should look into these stuff more. No hate to the guy of course. He made an amazing game. And it works really well regarding the bugs. And i of course cant be too sure without knowing what they re doing while developing. I know nothing about game developent. Just saying what i feel and what comes to mind as a human.
i really hope that by hard mode, vince doesn't just mean "oh just add more enemies or traps" i hope it actually makes them faster and has them use their abilites (like lucky's speed boost or the nurse's pills) more often
@@wambufan608 actually a better difficulty would be to allow them to throw them without stoping or slowing down at all, that would be challenging as heck. Also make hardmode a difficulty that requires all your powers to beat the levels such as the levels that you usually beat the first time without the later on powers, so basically the enemies will be much harder to deal with such as dread duckies can stun you from a longer distance and much faster and wake up from a larger distance so you can't just teleport through them to collect a shard and can't be prevented of awakening when hit by primal fear and instead get up and stay stunned so basically they are awakened when stunned by primal fear but start moving after the stun time is finished., and for Agatha, well... I think the best hard mode for her would be to give her an infinity gauntlet, that's the best thing cuz nothing else can work to make her better I don't see anything else possible besides making her immune to primal fear or instantly teleport, any thoughts for the rest of the levels which we would need all 6 powers to beat on hardcore mode?
I really hope Vince adds the old AI for Deadly Decadence on Hard Mode, personally, the difficulty there was super fun and I would love to go back to it again.
I personally dont mind the games difficulty as it is. It doesnt feel too easy or too difficult. It might feel too difficult at first but as you become experienced it becomes a lot more easy to playthrough while dying very minorly. I feel like there are a bit teeeensy issues with the difficulty here and there.. very small issues.. i dont think the monkeys are too difficult.. just sometimes you cant stop them from killing you. That is all. I also feel like deadly decadence zone 2 is a bit.. "crowded" because of the tight map and the large number of statues. But its very doable. I definetely agree with every one saying zone 3 of mm is too easy. Its probably because the jjg walk very slowly.. there arent many cameras and sometimes they get stuck on hangrys walls. Hangry is also not nearly as aggressive. And the active teddy in zone 1.. yes we know its intentional but its ai pattern is completely rng and you cant hear it as well through the walls as the rest of the enemies. You can optimize it but it also slightly depends on the teddy not moving too unpredictably when its in enough distance to not hear its feet through walls.
Splendid, interesting how this hard mode will work? Speeding up monsters, adding more traps, creating new mechanics like you did in one of the videos? Excited to see (there’s the video by the way ruclips.net/video/_eyVc4PG6Es/видео.html)
I mean he's right but I just mentioned zone 3. It's like the easiest one out of the three which is weird since it's the last one and they're all in their "Frenzy" mode.
I think the only hard thing about zone 3 is getting the secret for the s rank although i just waited for a long time for hangry to break the wall and i already have primal fear ready so yeah i think it's still easy
I REALLY hope deadly decadence won't become easy. it's famous just for it's difficulty, and it test the users skill to handle multiple enemies at once while surviving for a very long time. it's basically like when you beat a hard level in just about any game, and remember there are more levels. you learn how hard the rest of the game will be.
Complain is of the thing that struggle him I believe. Because, most of the review says its to hard and most of them says its to easy. But I glad that hard mode will be add to Dark Deception so people can play it the way they like.
@@andryusgustavo9148 for some reason the monitors in zone 2 and the control room cause a tremendous frame drop. My whole game runs very well except for that room. My pc is average.. not too good or too bad. But that zone man..
Tbh they should decrease the difficulty of Easy mode, I play games to experience it all, not get stuck being chased by hot nurses that can never lose sight of you, move faster than you do running, can turn invisible, stun you, spawn in threes, and your best option to avoid them is using an ability that takes like 30 seconds to recharge.
I like the challenge, but just sometimes it doesn't feel like a challenge, it just is straight up luck. (specifically talking the start of chapter 8 and the hangry part of chapter 7
I have used this example countless times but I will use it again. If any of you go back to the early access version of Dark Deception enhanced that SuperHorrorBro, Dawko, 8-BitRyan as well as multiple content creators have played, you may have noticed that the Gold Watchers conga line again (prior to the enhanced the Gold Watchers have the smart AI to corner you). However, when me and Typervader asked Nikson about it, it is confirmed that this was never intended, and mind you that Vince has played the early access version live on his channel, too. Nikson has then later changed the AI back the harder version. This in turn actually made Deadly Decadence harder as there are more number of watchers now. The point here is trying to give you guys an idea of how big of a difference between Vince's vision VS the actual execution of the game is. Just putting this out here...
Yea Stage 7 is hard but zone 3...? I mean zone 1 is the hardest and the other 2 are much easier, or I just had really good RNG there. But hopefully there will be both normal and hard mode for I want to play this game as the casul I am
"ik there are hardcore fans who want to make the most out of the game but I also need to sell it XD" specially for the person who makes the game, who knows it from edge to edge, its really hard to figure out whats the customer experience.
Players: I can breeze Zone 3 in less than a minute. Vince: I'm gonna do some changes and make it more difficult. Players: Well shit there gose the chance of S Ranks.
"It sounds like you're better at the game than most players" Vince, good or not, MM is still too ez because of Telekinesis and how small the level is in general🤦♂️. STOP worrying about what the complainers want and focus on how you can make your game better
I think the reason zone 3 is so easy is because the mascots get stuck walking into one of the breakable walls especially if the player loses them at the beginning of the chase which is really easy to do
I feel like vince doesnt spend that much time playtesting his game.. if he did he would be able to tell if a levels too easy or too hard instead of leaving it to the fans to judge. I sure can since ive spent 500+ hours on the game. But sure... for vince i would just be an insignificant voice in the sea of the fans.. why would he listen to me specifically? Or anyone else for that matter. But sometimes it feels like vince doesnt know his own game. You tell him an obvious bug thats been left for months for everyone to experience. And hes not sure if its a bug or because of a potato pc. I feel like he should look into these stuff more. No hate to the guy of course. He made an amazing game. And it works really well regarding the bugs. And i of course cant be too sure without knowing what they re doing while developing. I know nothing about game developent. Just saying what i feel and what comes to mind as a human.
i really hope that by hard mode, vince doesn't just mean "oh just add more enemies or traps" i hope it actually makes them faster and has them use their abilites (like lucky's speed boost or the nurse's pills) more often
It would be better if nurses never threw pills. It slows them down too much.
@@wambufan608 tbh i feel like they should allow them (and maybe the dread duckies and penny) to keep moving while using their stun attack in hard mode
@@Jakeee931 or atleast make the ducky wait time much shorter
@@wambufan608 actually a better difficulty would be to allow them to throw them without stoping or slowing down at all, that would be challenging as heck. Also make hardmode a difficulty that requires all your powers to beat the levels such as the levels that you usually beat the first time without the later on powers, so basically the enemies will be much harder to deal with such as dread duckies can stun you from a longer distance and much faster and wake up from a larger distance so you can't just teleport through them to collect a shard and can't be prevented of awakening when hit by primal fear and instead get up and stay stunned so basically they are awakened when stunned by primal fear but start moving after the stun time is finished., and for Agatha, well... I think the best hard mode for her would be to give her an infinity gauntlet, that's the best thing cuz nothing else can work to make her better I don't see anything else possible besides making her immune to primal fear or instantly teleport, any thoughts for the rest of the levels which we would need all 6 powers to beat on hardcore mode?
I really hope Vince adds the old AI for Deadly Decadence on Hard Mode, personally, the difficulty there was super fun and I would love to go back to it again.
I personally dont mind the games difficulty as it is. It doesnt feel too easy or too difficult. It might feel too difficult at first but as you become experienced it becomes a lot more easy to playthrough while dying very minorly. I feel like there are a bit teeeensy issues with the difficulty here and there.. very small issues.. i dont think the monkeys are too difficult.. just sometimes you cant stop them from killing you. That is all. I also feel like deadly decadence zone 2 is a bit.. "crowded" because of the tight map and the large number of statues. But its very doable. I definetely agree with every one saying zone 3 of mm is too easy. Its probably because the jjg walk very slowly.. there arent many cameras and sometimes they get stuck on hangrys walls. Hangry is also not nearly as aggressive. And the active teddy in zone 1.. yes we know its intentional but its ai pattern is completely rng and you cant hear it as well through the walls as the rest of the enemies. You can optimize it but it also slightly depends on the teddy not moving too unpredictably when its in enough distance to not hear its feet through walls.
Splendid, interesting how this hard mode will work? Speeding up monsters, adding more traps, creating new mechanics like you did in one of the videos? Excited to see (there’s the video by the way ruclips.net/video/_eyVc4PG6Es/видео.html)
I think it will just speed up the monsters. But dont underestimate that. A minor spice in speed can cause a huge increase in the difficulty
I mean he's right but I just mentioned zone 3. It's like the easiest one out of the three which is weird since it's the last one and they're all in their "Frenzy" mode.
I think the only hard thing about zone 3 is getting the secret for the s rank although i just waited for a long time for hangry to break the wall and i already have primal fear ready so yeah i think it's still easy
Zone 3 is a fair challenge when you dont use Tekeknesis. The issue is the fact it exists
I REALLY hope deadly decadence won't become easy. it's famous just for it's difficulty, and it test the users skill to handle multiple enemies at once while surviving for a very long time. it's basically like when you beat a hard level in just about any game, and remember there are more levels. you learn how hard the rest of the game will be.
Complain is of the thing that struggle him I believe. Because, most of the review says its to hard and most of them says its to easy. But I glad that hard mode will be add to Dark Deception so people can play it the way they like.
Vince wasn't as convincing as before ever since chapter 4...I feel that he doesn't understand his own game as much as the highly skilled players.
i wish someone will try to 1 day ask vince to bring back niksons actually creepy lighting instead of vinces nuclear explosion he calls "lighting"
I think Hangry teleporting to several walls and immediately killing us breaking through was hard enough
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Mascot Mayhem zone 3 is so easy
I think zone 2 is the hardest in MM，Hangry so trouble lol
@@VRBEJAIANANNAMA Same, another problem for me is THE lag
@@andryusgustavo9148 for some reason the monitors in zone 2 and the control room cause a tremendous frame drop. My whole game runs very well except for that room. My pc is average.. not too good or too bad. But that zone man..
@@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
Same here
And the waiting simulator from Joy Kill in that room doesn't help either
@@Artizap_ same
I play on Easy mode 😶
I heard that to get the true ending of Dark Deception, you have to get the Rank S at ALL levels 🤔
Correct👍🏻
Yes
Tbh they should decrease the difficulty of Easy mode, I play games to experience it all, not get stuck being chased by hot nurses that can never lose sight of you, move faster than you do running, can turn invisible, stun you, spawn in threes, and your best option to avoid them is using an ability that takes like 30 seconds to recharge.
I like the challenge, but just sometimes it doesn't feel like a challenge, it just is straight up luck. (specifically talking the start of chapter 8 and the hangry part of chapter 7
Now I wonder what rewards we could get. S+, Golden statues of level antagonist in ballroom, drop your ideas here
The real issue are powers are way too strong.
Oh no😅🤣 more difficult now😭
I have used this example countless times but I will use it again.
If any of you go back to the early access version of Dark Deception enhanced that SuperHorrorBro, Dawko, 8-BitRyan as well as multiple content creators have played, you may have noticed that the Gold Watchers conga line again (prior to the enhanced the Gold Watchers have the smart AI to corner you). However, when me and Typervader asked Nikson about it, it is confirmed that this was never intended, and mind you that Vince has played the early access version live on his channel, too. Nikson has then later changed the AI back the harder version. This in turn actually made Deadly Decadence harder as there are more number of watchers now.
The point here is trying to give you guys an idea of how big of a difference between Vince's vision VS the actual execution of the game is. Just putting this out here...
I need a Hard mode.
It would be better for the true ending, S ranking is about bierce's diary, Hard mode can be for the true ending.
Yea Stage 7 is hard but zone 3...? I mean zone 1 is the hardest and the other 2 are much easier, or I just had really good RNG there. But hopefully there will be both normal and hard mode for I want to play this game as the casul I am
"ik there are hardcore fans who want to make the most out of the game but I also need to sell it XD"
specially for the person who makes the game, who knows it from edge to edge, its really hard to figure out whats the customer experience.
Players: I can breeze Zone 3 in less than a minute.
Vince: I'm gonna do some changes and make it more difficult.
Players: Well shit there gose the chance of S Ranks.
"It sounds like you're better at the game than most players" Vince, good or not, MM is still too ez because of Telekinesis and how small the level is in general🤦♂️. STOP worrying about what the complainers want and focus on how you can make your game better
Telekinesis is really strong
Mascot Mayhem zone 3 also need a re-lighting because the current one doesn't fit the level that well.
i hope that hard mode will change more things than only speed of enemies
the only actually scary part about the game is when it crashes out of nowhere
That's most likely PC issue.
Vince proceeds to destroy the ambitions of every new player with the most stoical expression possible (NOT clickbait)
I think the reason zone 3 is so easy is because the mascots get stuck walking into one of the breakable walls especially if the player loses them at the beginning of the chase which is really easy to do
it will still be easy though even if that's fixed because the zone is way too small and you can just use telekinesis for a good chunk of the map
@@thatmemedog2360 true
YES HARD MODE WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i think this is the unique thing that made me get into the hype
chapter 4 was very easy lol since you got so many power ups lol
This game must add hard difficulty
Yep the zone 3 is too easy😔