2:32 - So, shall we just accept that Bobby is biased then? Kudos to Ann for playing the ‘whataboutery’ game. She really put him in his place, and it is clear that Jeremy does not like her speaking the truth 🤦🏽♂️ It is a great “way” to DEBATE too 👏🏽
Comparing Soros and Musk is apples and oranges. Soros uses his wealth to support pro-democracy initiatives like independent media, election monitoring, and education through transparent foundations. Musk, on the other hand, wields his influence privately, often without accountability, as seen with Starlink in Ukraine or Twitter's moderation policies. One strengthens democratic institutions; the other often undermines them. Big difference. *_Do you think there's a difference between using money to support democracy and using power to influence decisions without transparency_* ?
If the owner of TikTok felt he didnt like the political direction of the UK, and donated 10s of millions to Jeremy Corbyn's new party, just imagine how the UK media and right-wing politicians would be reacting to this.
@keirmitchell5560 I don't. But it proves the point that Anne Widdecombe, and other right wing outlets, are OK with this simply because it benefits their political aims. Whereas some of us are opposed to it on principle. To you, Musk is a freedom fighting friend of the UK. To me, he's just another foreign oligarch, using his wealth to obtain power and enforce his worldview. Unless you can explain why it would be any different if this were a Russian or Chinese oligarch?
As someone who is right leaning, I don't actually disagree. I think the difference I find here though is that our recent election showed the system is rigged against parties like Reform (millions of votes only equalling 5 seats shows that). If the system felt fair, I would be more inclined to disagree with the donation. Let's not forget too that Labour is bought and paid for by a lot of nefarious people, so it is hypocritical for them to complain.
Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners+ And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.+ 2 But his delight is in the law of Jehovah,+ And he reads His law in an undertone* day and night.+ 3 He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliag e of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.+ 4 The wicked are not like that; They are like the chaff that the wind blows away. 5 That is why the wicked will not remain standing in the judgment;+ Nor will sinners remain standing in the assembly of the righteous.+ 6 For Jehovah is aware of the way of the righteous,+ But the way of the wicked will perish.+
Criticising the government is fair enough, but responding a typical right-wing populism of more authoritarian control only deepens the problem. Instead, we need to push for a more participatory and accountable system that empowers people rather than concentrating power in the hands of the wealthy or a single party.
Why, then, doesn't Musk try to help Tommy, who is a strong UK Patriot for the people? Farage will be much more pliable for any American agenda. But, anything is better than the current UK government.
I wouldnt normally agree with foreign people being able to donate money (though im aware Elon has British heritage).. but clearly our election system isnt set up to allow other parties outside the main 2 to succeed (Reforms 5 seats despite millions of votes just shows that). If our system felt fair, then id be more inclined to disagree with the donation.
Easy how the heads of right-wing populists are turned. "Disgraceful" - Starmer having clothes and specs paid for. Now Musk, £100 million, yeah, we've got no principles! Russian interference in the referendum? You lost! 🤡🤡🤡
Yes he should and hopefully spring board him in to the next goverment. It's like the light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter when i heard this.
If Nigel Farage accepted a donation from Elon Musk, it would likely be illegal under UK electoral laws. These laws prohibit foreign nationals from making political donations. Since Musk is a US citizen, any direct donation from him would be against the law
He didn’t buy twitter to make money though, he bought it for free speech. He took a massive hit on twitter. Who knows but I trust him more than starmers lot
Even if Elon Musk gave the money directly to Nigel Farage and Farage used it for personal purchases like a jet or a golf course, it could still be seen as politically unfair and potentially illegal. UK electoral laws are strict about foreign donations to political figures and parties, and such a large sum of money could be interpreted as an attempt to influence political activities, even if it's not directly used for campaigning
Are you joking? The medias harped on about this *potential* donation since the day the rumours came out and it's to a party that isn't even in power and is unfortunately likely to remain in third place
Even if Elon Musk gave the money directly to Nigel Farage and Farage used it for personal purchases like a jet or a golf course, it could still be seen as politically unfair and potentially illegal. UK electoral laws are strict about foreign donations to political figures and parties, and such a large sum of money could be interpreted as an attempt to influence political activities, even if it's not directly used for campaigning
2:32 - So, shall we just accept that Bobby is biased then? Kudos to Ann for playing the ‘whataboutery’ game. She really put him in his place, and it is clear that Jeremy does not like her speaking the truth 🤦🏽♂️ It is a great “way” to DEBATE too 👏🏽
Get Trump in charge of the UK
Why, the man cannot tie his own shoelaces.
Traitor!
Can't even process that one...clickbait obviously if not then wtf 😱😱
@@FrostekFerenczy Who is?
Yes! 🩵 Reform UK 2029 🩵
Deform UK for a bitter Britain, Farage’s main aim being self-enrichment
What about Soros ??
Comparing Soros and Musk is apples and oranges. Soros uses his wealth to support pro-democracy initiatives like independent media, election monitoring, and education through transparent foundations. Musk, on the other hand, wields his influence privately, often without accountability, as seen with Starlink in Ukraine or Twitter's moderation policies. One strengthens democratic institutions; the other often undermines them. Big difference.
*_Do you think there's a difference between using money to support democracy and using power to influence decisions without transparency_* ?
Whatever
If the owner of TikTok felt he didnt like the political direction of the UK, and donated 10s of millions to Jeremy Corbyn's new party, just imagine how the UK media and right-wing politicians would be reacting to this.
Sorry is tiktok not ran by a Chinese company. Why would you want them involved at all.
@keirmitchell5560 I don't. But it proves the point that Anne Widdecombe, and other right wing outlets, are OK with this simply because it benefits their political aims. Whereas some of us are opposed to it on principle.
To you, Musk is a freedom fighting friend of the UK. To me, he's just another foreign oligarch, using his wealth to obtain power and enforce his worldview.
Unless you can explain why it would be any different if this were a Russian or Chinese oligarch?
As someone who is right leaning, I don't actually disagree. I think the difference I find here though is that our recent election showed the system is rigged against parties like Reform (millions of votes only equalling 5 seats shows that).
If the system felt fair, I would be more inclined to disagree with the donation. Let's not forget too that Labour is bought and paid for by a lot of nefarious people, so it is hypocritical for them to complain.
What a bellend this guy is ..trump never said he was against electric cars ..he wanted people to have a choice
Vine is a ****
Look at the idiots we got running this country , take his money .
You lost, get over it.
Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked
And does not stand on the path of sinners+
And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.+
2 But his delight is in the law of Jehovah,+
And he reads His law in an undertone* day and night.+
3 He will be like a tree planted by streams of water,
A tree that produces fruit in its season,
The foliag e of which does not wither.
And everything he does will succeed.+
4 The wicked are not like that;
They are like the chaff that the wind blows away.
5 That is why the wicked will not remain standing in the judgment;+
Nor will sinners remain standing in the assembly of the righteous.+
6 For Jehovah is aware of the way of the righteous,+
But the way of the wicked will perish.+
@@davidantonucci1161 so your a Trump fan ?
Criticising the government is fair enough, but responding a typical right-wing populism of more authoritarian control only deepens the problem. Instead, we need to push for a more participatory and accountable system that empowers people rather than concentrating power in the hands of the wealthy or a single party.
if nigel could steal a childs lunch if given a chance brexit first then the nhs, thanks enoch
the money will fund the bots
Why, then, doesn't Musk try to help Tommy, who is a strong UK Patriot for the people? Farage will be much more pliable for any American agenda. But, anything is better than the current UK government.
Jeremy all parties need money to survive so i think yes.......
Yes labour have the unions money
Because , unions gave you the NHS, bank holidays, employee rights, helped to get maternity pay?
The unions have been repaid
@@localreviewking134 Did they?? Who told you that?
is england for sale,how much?
Yes,if it helps him to get this dreadful Government out.
What has he done for Clacton ? He hasn't opened his doors once to his supporters ... Never away from the US ? The shifty wee shtie is up to no good
6:04 "The unions" = working people of Britain. There's no equivalence.
REFORM would end unions, if they could I guess.
@@localreviewking134 - Along with the NHS and human rights.
Public sector workers are working people of government. Private sector workers are working people of Britain.
I wouldnt normally agree with foreign people being able to donate money (though im aware Elon has British heritage).. but clearly our election system isnt set up to allow other parties outside the main 2 to succeed (Reforms 5 seats despite millions of votes just shows that).
If our system felt fair, then id be more inclined to disagree with the donation.
What about lord Ali investing into Labour?
He clearly has an agenda and wants something..
He’s a British national, not a foreign billionaire.
100 million vs £6000 ??
@@filmneekHe's an islamist. Not really British.
So two wrongs make a right. OK, got it!
Easy how the heads of right-wing populists are turned. "Disgraceful" - Starmer having clothes and specs paid for. Now Musk, £100 million, yeah, we've got no principles! Russian interference in the referendum? You lost! 🤡🤡🤡
Love it. Vote reform
At least. Get musk to pay his 25 pounds membership fee.
I pray he does and UK follows in the footsteps of America and wakes up and throws all this woke madness out , forever. Reform 💯
Nah , I dont want Trump abortion bans here.
Are you completely mental ?
Vine won’t like this with him being a Labour voter
What return does Ali expect for his contributions 😮
The super-rich will take over! What kind of id... call in here?
Trump will sort us out. Tough speaking whereas our own PM is so wishy washy
Sort us out how?
@@orionnebula1136no doubt by giving us alternative facts eh😱😂
I thought this bloke was supposed to be clever? 🤔
Can you really take seriously the opinion of someone dressed as an Elf ??
When did Nigel dress as an Elf. OK, he is kind of small, and maybe he would rock a stripped pair of tights?
Definitely not. Don't take the money. It will put this fascist to have a say on British politics.
Yes the other partys take plenty and lie about it at least nigel is honest
Yes he should and hopefully spring board him in to the next goverment.
It's like the light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter when i heard this.
Big story 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just tuned in to vine.comparing Chelsea with musk. Won’t bother again
Make musk the PM of UK. He has British kids. Brits love him.
I'm a Brit, I don't love him
We love elon musk
Labour took Lord Ali’s……….
Musk can see what the world needs is a close friendship between Britain and us if we have similar policies it will change the world.
Musk can see Farage and the UK as his his little lap-dog.
If Nigel Farage accepted a donation from Elon Musk, it would likely be illegal under UK electoral laws. These laws prohibit foreign nationals from making political donations. Since Musk is a US citizen, any direct donation from him would be against the law
And a czech owns Rofal Mail
Become a reform member for £25
Nope, that`s my Sky Footie money!
What a waste of money.
Do you get a Trump Bible with that?
Compare Chelsea if you want.what's happening now?
Hopefully reform goes the same way.
say goodbye to a Great Britain and hello the 50 first State of America😮
That seems to be the idea .
Vine is a proper weirdo!
For fairness, is it OK to say the same about Mr F.?
to the woman on the phone ...LORD ALLI
If he gets power, the payback will be heavy indeed, you don't get something for nothing, Judas Farage will have made his promises.
Absolutely agree.
He didn’t buy twitter to make money though, he bought it for free speech. He took a massive hit on twitter.
Who knows but I trust him more than starmers lot
🍿🍿🍿
Even if Elon Musk gave the money directly to Nigel Farage and Farage used it for personal purchases like a jet or a golf course, it could still be seen as politically unfair and potentially illegal. UK electoral laws are strict about foreign donations to political figures and parties, and such a large sum of money could be interpreted as an attempt to influence political activities, even if it's not directly used for campaigning
Jeremy Vile is biased. Bobby hasn't a clue. Ann, I'm not a fan of hers, but she speaks the truth out of all of this.
The media were complaining that starter took a suit yet nothing to say about this. The media in the UK is a mess.
Are you joking? The medias harped on about this *potential* donation since the day the rumours came out and it's to a party that isn't even in power and is unfortunately likely to remain in third place
Propaganda campaigns from reform
ca-ching !!!!!
Regardless of the context, I just love that the left can't stop talking about Farage and Reform! We are living in their heads rent free!!! :)
I love how you people don't have any real opinions.
That widdy woman, did not like Stamer getting a couple of suits for free. Now is ok to get $100. Give it a rest.
Its very unfair what about Labour party and Conservative parts. They need big donations to move forward
This man from Newcastle is thick as two planks
Even if Elon Musk gave the money directly to Nigel Farage and Farage used it for personal purchases like a jet or a golf course, it could still be seen as politically unfair and potentially illegal. UK electoral laws are strict about foreign donations to political figures and parties, and such a large sum of money could be interpreted as an attempt to influence political activities, even if it's not directly used for campaigning