Yesss! I could tell just how much they all admired him. Made me wonder how many of them are here in the comments and regular viewers. It's all one big love for tech coming together and both sides are excited to meet each other. Technology really does bring us all together haha.
I mean, per his analogy, he's just the newsman covering the real thing. But he is basically an icon of the hobby now - just like how David Attenborough is **THE** documentary guy, and Bill Nye is the science guy, he's the tech guy. People have literally went from teenagers and young adults to industry experts, all while watching him on RUclips. From his days as the NCIX guy, to now with the Labs becoming a reality, he's basically the titan of tech journalism. He is Mr. Tech Tips.
I had the honor and pleasure of having Linus in the IDC validation labs in Haifa that I am managing. Linus shared some of the amazing work being done in development labs in Israel In three videos. ADL Product and Some of the various mechanical solutions and unique cards produced by good cooperation between teams, now he is talking on the unique motherboards that developed to support INTEL Validation needs In order to provide Intel customers with the best product on the market. This leads to results and challenging and fun work between the various development groups and the lab teams. A few days of film are not enough to show the amazing work of the development crews and lab team at intel . Thanks, Linus
Thanks so much for taking the time to give the LTT team this experience to share with us. It's always cool to take a look under the hood to see how our favorite products are made, tested and validated. Cheers!
The clear difference between the guys who market and big wigs vs the developer engineers are staggering. The developer engineers are truly working with passion. I love these types of videos
I admire more the guys at AMD that get a fraction of the money and still do a great job. Except some bad apples that run to Intel like Raja Kuduri, to make new failures like Arc.
All the more importance to having your CEO being an actual engineer who gets it, instead of some business administrator. Intel, AMD, and Nvidia all have true pioneering engineers as their current CEOs. That wasn't always the case with intel.
I feel like this tour never would have happened without Pat, an engineer, in charge. Marketing and Finance would probably just say "they don't need to know how we do things."
I’d say Legal & Finance (marketing departments can be extremely controlling, but not always), but I totally agree. Sometimes it takes an engineer to say, “guys, we’ve got all this cool shit; with a little diligence we can get a superbowl’s worth of advertising for the cost of escorting a well-connected nerd through our facility.”
Just in case anyone was wondering... Overclocking can be used to test the maximum capabilities of technology, but it does not represent the standard use case and will void product warranties. 😂
I was starting to wonder if that might be the case. Thank you for the clarification that, indeed, while overclocking can be used to test the maximum capabilities of technology, it does not represent the standard use case, and that it will, in fact, void product warranties.
Ok, I would really like to know why overclocking a product voids the warranty, and yet literally NO ONE actually tries to stop overclocking. And even making products overclockable in the first place
I'd love to see a behind-the-scenes video on how this tour got approved at Intel. I've worked at a few very secure facilities (Google DC, avionics firms, etc) and I can't imagine how difficult getting approval would be.
Gotta remember he's been working with Intel, and some higher ups for quite a while. I'm sure he just simply asked them, and they asked others and eventually they were like "Ok"
It's not that difficult. All you have to do is be the boss of one of the largest, reputable, trusted, enthusiastic, non-controversial, family-friendly, PC-focused tech RUclips channel in the world... :)
I mean, this video came out months after the first visit, and I am guessing they actually shot it in one sitting... I dont wanna know how many revisions this video went through to get approved xD
Linus has said repeatedly on WAN Show that when a manufacturer offers a tour he tells them he doesn't want to do it unless he has free range (within reason) to actually make a cool video that's LTT's own creation. I'm sure there was an ongoing dialogue between Linus and Intel that lead to it.
The overclocking room was definitely a moment of passion. You can see the guys ready to jump in and have some fun with their creations. This is where the passion is, and this is why they enjoy the LTT group. Because they feel the same passion, despite their corny jokes.
I would just like to say a great big THANK YOU to Intel for allowing someone to document the awesome things that are going on behind the curtains. I really loved this set of videos about Intel's Israel Design Center!
One thing I love about this series is the unerring respect LTT shows for the proprietary, trade-secret-driven nature of everything that's going on there. Obviously, they wouldn't be allowed to visit without agreeing to many conditions of secrecy. However, there's never any snarkiness, because Linus 100% gets it: this is how businesses work. Intel, AMD, TSMC, and nearly every company in the world making anything novel exist at all because they develop their own trade secrets and use those to compete. And because Linus and crew respect that in every way, they're allowed to visit and they get to make video after video of interesting, detailed, enthusiastic, engaging, and completely unique content. Hats off to LTT, and thanks to their awesome hosts for making this happen. It's been great.
And also hats off to Intel. Apparently (iirc from a Wan show) LTT won't go tour a lab if they have to blur everything, or lots of things are kept secret. He said that it isn't just him being "oh, I am important, I need to see this", but more so a n"I need to do my job, make content on it" thing. The fact Intel was willing to let Linus in at all is incredible, and also how much they were able to show him to get lots of content out of it.
sometimes i really hate those kinds of reporters that dont even think twice to expose trade secrets from company tours to get as much views and revenue. even if the company sues them afterwards and managed to stop it from spreading, sometimes the damage is done
@@TazerXI they seem to have a good understanding of what one another wants or needs. So there was definitely good communication going on, which in turn has produced favorable results.
Hey Linus, One thing the engineers didn't touch on in great detail - you were pretty much right. PS/2 is still there because early silicon can't always use USB right away (and SSHing in remotely similarly) and we still need a mouse/keyboard for some situations before USB is ready. PS/2 always works :)
I admit, while i am in the AMD camp since K6 and never really did go to Intel (even in the dark times...) - i have huge respect for the engineers at Intel and i am mighty impressed.
linus is that part of us that learned about antistatic straps but never used them and felt badass cause we've never blown anything up except turned up to 100.
If any Intel people read this, this type of things we, the consumers, want to see. Seeing how much work and effort and all the interesting stuff goes into creating a CPU is fascinating. These types of videos are great and I hope to see more of them.
For me, it's also been the most effective marketing "campaign" for Intel that I've seen since the bunny suits. Hearing the story and passion of the engineers involved in creating these marvels of modern engineering is going to have a profound effect on me for my next build if only because I can appreciate more what I'm putting in my chassis.
15:17 for anyone else that was curious, that's a PNY 3090 that Intel uses on their test benches. Wonder if the engineers picked PNY for any particular reason, or if that's just what they could find in stock
I would assume, Intel gets lots of Quadro cards; PNY is the only brand for those. So while having a business relation with them, they most probably asked their GPU guy to throw in some gaming GPUs.
Just for some information, usually for the same product, they'll use the same hardware part over the entire line for consistency purpose. But differ products might use differnt brands. So I assume that the original designees takes stock availability into consideration from their vendors.
Imagine being able to have that power in your hands, being able to swap the chipset without needing to swap the entire motherboard, being able to change system parameters without needing to enter to the BIOS and being able to control every aspect of the system would be awesome! I would love to have this control over my electronics.
This bring back so much memory of working on the 1366 Bloomfield platform. I had worked on one of those dvt motherboards and it was amazing the amount of parameters you can change on them and watching the qol changes slowly being available to the market. Still amazing to see the passion on the engineers working on validation, feels good going down memory lane.
13:49 - I love how E-cores are called "Atom", like the old netbook low-end chips and the P cores are just "Big". I mean I suspected as much, Atom did not die, it just became the new Celerons and Pentiums.
AIUI "Atom" is the over-arching architecture that Gracemont, Goldmont etc adhere too. I suspect it's purely marketing to have called them P/E cores rather than Atom etc.
Yeah, it's a bit of a marketing mess but it's true, those Atom CPUs never died (luckily), they have been evolving this whole time. At some point they also started labelling them as Celerons and Pentiums, like the ones belonging to the "desktop lineup" (the core i3/i5/i7 CPUs). You can only tell them apart from their product numbers (at least for the consumer market) the "atom-derived" are Nxxxx or Jxxxx, the "core ix-derived" are Gxxxx. They're excellent CPUs as far as I'm concerned, they're obviously not intended for heavy work but they are perfectly fine for most of the stuff you'd normally do on a basic desktop or a laptop, I even had to use MATLAB on mine, for an exam, it ran with no issues.
Those are some very interesting MSRs they've got there. I'm sure it's all heavily locked down and fused off before leaving the lab, but imagine what a couple of overclockers can do with that level of control over cpu internals
The transparent honesty, as well as the access LTT gets. Is why for me they are the one stop for all things tech. Thank you to the entire team for your hard work and dedication!!! I know you do it for us as well as yourself and it makes the most interesting, educational information that the world has ever seen.
Agreed. Any time I hear people bitching about how they're not as good as GN (no offence Steve, I watch you too) because he takes apart things, and LTT isn't a real tech nerd I'm like, have you seen their behind the scenes videos on supercomputers, quantum computers, Intel's top secret facilities? Just because they're also more accessible doesn't mean they don't do awesome work on the real tech stuff. If anything it's a testament to how well that team works together, and because he has vastly more resources than some of the smaller channels.
@@morosis82 GN do amazing work, but it's geared up to the enthusiasts who want to know the nitty gritty details. LTT is for giving people information at a higher level to get people interested in all things tech, not just PC hardware.
Easily my favorite video to date on the channel. I'm an Electrical Engineer that designs test bench to test the modules for my company and I found myself pausing the video several times to geek out what the engineers at Intel made. Love the video!
I still can't get my head around how that much tech can be made in such volume, at such a relatively low price, working so reliably and be sitting on my desk. If guys like them at Intel stop working, we lose so much.
If you were to snap your fingers and magically "delete" all the current fabs in the world, it would literally take ~20 years to get us back to where we are today. It's utterly insane how much of the world relies on so few facilities.
In my first job out of school (1975), we were designing a brand new system, using an Intel bit-slice processor (intel 3000). I purchased from Intel at the time, their new (at the time) ICE system (in-circuit emulation), which was the forerunner of the systems you were seeing. Oh by the way - the system, is hung below the now EF-18 Growler, still slamming into the carrier decks when trapping. Also, I had to fly to one of their FABs, to pick up #5 - the fifth 8080 mil spec chip off the production line - for our evaluation system.
This is my favourite snippet from within the comments. The development stories you could likely tell. One of the most fascinating documentaries I've watched was the rise of the Wild Wiesel's during Vietnam which didn't include much on more post Vietnam capabilities for obvious reasons. EW aircraft I find fascinating.
@@OneLeatherBoot - You also have to remember that in those days, you had to build your own tools, assembler, linker, loader, debugger - before you could do any meaningful work on the actual project. Then there were the ROM emulators (ROM chips were running $200 each, and then the UVROMS came along - but were slower). Also, needed to have logic analyzers to watch the instruction execution stream, along with a high-speed bus hanger (that we designed) to grab the data addresses with the data along with a DX/DR support utility (data extraction/data reduction) to take the output and make some sense of everything. Lots and lots of engineering had to be done around the project as well as the project itself. Also, created a set of macros to emulate a Fortran like somewhat higher-level language (in the assembler) - to boost productivity.
This was a great opportunity to see how engineers at intel think. Thank you for sharing something that most will not have seen before, and will most likely never see again.
This is cool stuff and brings back some good memories for me. Back in the late 1980s, I worked in an R&D lab and got to assemble prototypes, test and repair the new hardware. The engineers too had a great sense of humor and enjoyed their work they did, and in the process taught me a ton too which I applied later in my own EE classes I was taking at the time.
I just got back from visiting my family in Israel and my brothers and I went kayaking and all the Intel folks were there for a fun outing, it was a hilarious coincidence after watching all the videos in this series.
"These guys are the real MVPs" For real. They're the brains behind the operation but we wouldn't be nearly as informed without you and your team. Thanks LTT! Amazing to get to see some of this stuff!
110% agree with last 2 mins, seriously thank you to everyone involved at Intel and LTT for bringing this series of vids to us, it was so amazing. Hopefully teachers will show this vid and the others to their students and show them how cool tech is :D Thank you everyone.
You guys put out sooo many videos I dont always have time to watch them all, but I never miss videos like these. The more in-depth behind the scenes hardware content is by far my favorite.
This is one of the most incredible tours through a factory I care about I've seen. Definitely would love to see future collaborations beyond just Intel extreme upgrade.
This is so cool. It would be a great follow up if Intel could sit down with Linus and explain how these harnesses didnt catch the ILM issues with 12th gen and how they are addressing that in future harnesses
how else do you think leaks happen when an undisclosed CPU gets validated on a benchmark/app. Someone internally generally is the one doing it, or a company doing it with an engineering sample.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been on a tour of a company where I’ve worked for years, sort of checked out, then due to the visitor/new employee’s questions I find I’m learning all sorts of new things. Good reminder of how much I don’t know.
I'm not a computer guy anymore, but I never really even considered what the possibilities were for developers/engineers in this capacity. This is absolutely wild. Thank you. Your humbleness was awesome to see. Thanks, Linus.
Internal USB ports are actually super handy for people who use software like Pro Tools that requires authentication dongles, so you can just leave it plugged it in all the time
i am pretty sure they are just using the wires of the port for a priority protocol they functions they were controlling happens before boot so USB protocols and drivers cant be used it is normal to use comercial ports for other uses. VGA is another example, it is often used for uses other than display
This wont make intel any better in my book. Red stays in my pc no doubt. I hope that this is not their true agenda when they let LTT roam in their facilities.
I love this. We all grumble about tech companies, including intel, but the fact is that these guys live and breath their products and work hard to make them as awesome as possible. Of course business sometimes gets in the way, but these geeks are geeks like us. Geeks together forever.
@linustechtips linus ive watched you since 2011 i grew up in a smalltown my mother was an addict and never met my father i never had a man to teach me things til i found your channel n found a love in electronics your sense of humor and humble attitude your more than just a youtube channel 10 millions subs are more than subs its 10 million people who believe in you some fo them being fatherless children like me who have to turn to your channel to learn the things others didnt care enough to take the time to teach 11 years later all i can say is thank you linus if you quit today then you deserve it your a great human and in a way feel like i know you as much of your fanbase does!! thank you linus!
Man, these videos are SOOOOO cool. That is so awesome that you got to experience this Linus, and thank you for sharing all of it with us vicariously through your content! This series was really awesome, very educational, and just all around badass! Shout out to intel as well for letting you go there and make content about this place, it's processes and how it all works and comes together in the end! This is the kind of stuff that makes me LOVE LTT content. So cool 😎
WOW! Linus at his lovable best: Like a proud Father whose kid just moved up two grades in school, he is so excited by this entire situation! FanTASTIC video! TEAM BLUE, for me, for life!!
Pretty cool, even with the "mandated overclock disclaimer". Really neat to get this inside look. Really awesome that they were able to get all the folks to sign off on this video series.
While the Alder lake and new tech is really interesting and super cool, I'd be also very interested to see what goes into the Xeon or whatever server hardware validation. It seems like those CPUs especially get used so heavily, that they need to be extra reliable.
Keep in mind that it's for thorough testing of the processors. They probably run tests with older GPU's as well to make sure the new processor plays nice with the different GPU architectures that are still around plenty.
12:09 from looking at lots of motherboard schematics, I'm pretty sure the intel CPU diagnostic port is called XDP, not XTP (unless they changed it on newer versions). Just a small thing but thought I'd mention it
everything will be on lockdown so NVIDIA and Intel don't get any clues on how their chiplet and V-cache designs work for Zen4 and RDNA3 that are almost out.
Yeah I would have never guessed a huge corporation like Intel would have a liquid nitrogen overclocking setup in one of their labs just to see how far their tech can go.
The port you pointed at is a DAP port, the blue box is a ITP-XDP3, its Intel's hardware debugger i have one in my drawer at work, it makes for easy debugging of a kernel or the bios.
Im loving seeing the more corporate side of tech, it's like seeing something forbidden! something that was never supposed to be revealed to the public!
I thought so too, but if you notice the background audio, there is a really overpowering fan or mechanical noise in the background. The higher music helps distract from this while still being able to hear Linus.
Dang, this was cool as hell. Along with the other factory/lab videos. I'd be curious to see how this process flow works at AMD/TSMC. I'm sure a lot of the tools/processes are similar but since it's not vertically integrated as it is with Intel, I'd like to see that.
This game gave me some unexpected warm & fuzzies. I think partly because of how excited Linus genuinely was, and partly because the engineers are clearly the same type of goofy nerds we are, making the CPU an "LTT Edition" in real time ❤
This kinda stuff is amazing to me; I'm over here in the states running decent hardware, and I'd like to think I push it pretty hard sometimes (read: I'm cheap). Meanwhile in Israel, these people are pushing 5 ghz on an efficiency core, because they can. 🤯
An age ago I worked in PC hardware development with Intel platforms and it's cool to see some of the tools I was using are still in use at Intel and that the public has gotten a peek at them. The USB debug interface was just starting to be worked on when I exited that industry so it was interesting to see it actually in use now. As for Linus's popularity there, it's a bit hard to explain what it's like to work in that kind of environment. Guys like Linus are great for taking all the info out there on a product, condensing it, and repackaging it in a way that is consumer friendly. To use the game analogy, no one would know anything about the game that is being played if it weren't for guys like Linus. No one would even know which games are the important ones either if not for tech reporting like this.
I fixed a computer today for a customer, when I dropped it off I met the customers 12 year old son who owned the pc and he's interested in building pc's, he did mention LTT and smiled when he did, Linus and the team please keep doing what you're doing it's a great service to society. Thanks.
They have to. They are showing off their internal tools and discussing overclocking, which without the disclaimer, would be conveyed as Intel endorses overclocking.
@@DanKaschel they do. If they don't then an end user with a broken CPU can claim false advertising because this would otherwise be proof that they are actively endorsing overclocking. Trust me, people are dumb and if a corporation gives a consumer an inch, they will take a mile. So yeah, they have to to avoid lawsuits.
I wish more companies would do this kind of thing. It's kind of like seeing the behind the scenes videos for films. It really makes me appreciate what goes into making the final product.
Whilst im not a fan of intel (imagine how far we would be ahead with there anti competition practices ) , this factory tour was awesome , the factoy tours are a great part of the channel .
your precious AMD does literally the same anti-competition practices as soon as they get the chance or did Zen 3 prices not strike a cord in your brain?
Props to Intel for being such good sports with this - they trusted journalists to show off how cool this stuff is and not interfere noticeably, they put on a real show :D
I got a real kick out of seeing Linus so genuinely excited like he used to in his really early videos. What an awesome behind-the-scenes look into Intel’s test benches. Thanks for this, LTT! 😀👍
Remember, Linus is just sitting there, wetting his pants while talking about tech, and the engineers have to stand there and babysit him so he doesn't spit out any intel he isn't supposed to xD
Wonderful video Linus and LMG, I appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos and it always make me interested and excited to see where the tech industry goes in the next couple of years.
Dude this video is soooo cool. I love that they treat linus really kind knowing that he is someone who is really driving the consumer towards his passions and inspiring young people who will in turn allow them to do their jobs with a bigger audience. I love seeing passionate people and this video is incredible!
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Linus clearly emotional from realizing HIS heroes are paying HIM that much respect. Wholesome AF
Yesss! I could tell just how much they all admired him. Made me wonder how many of them are here in the comments and regular viewers. It's all one big love for tech coming together and both sides are excited to meet each other. Technology really does bring us all together haha.
Sportsball!
I mean, per his analogy, he's just the newsman covering the real thing.
But he is basically an icon of the hobby now - just like how David Attenborough is **THE** documentary guy, and Bill Nye is the science guy, he's the tech guy. People have literally went from teenagers and young adults to industry experts, all while watching him on RUclips. From his days as the NCIX guy, to now with the Labs becoming a reality, he's basically the titan of tech journalism.
He is Mr. Tech Tips.
I had the honor and pleasure of having Linus in the IDC validation labs in Haifa that I am managing.
Linus shared some of the amazing work being done in development labs in Israel In three videos.
ADL Product and Some of the various mechanical solutions and unique cards produced by good cooperation between teams, now he is talking on the unique motherboards that developed to support INTEL Validation needs In order to provide Intel customers with the best product on the market.
This leads to results and challenging and fun work between the various development groups and the lab teams.
A few days of film are not enough to show the amazing work of the development crews and lab team at intel .
Thanks, Linus
Thanks so much for taking the time to give the LTT team this experience to share with us. It's always cool to take a look under the hood to see how our favorite products are made, tested and validated. Cheers!
Great to see inside the factory. Smart move by Intel to up its marketing and reach out.
The clear difference between the guys who market and big wigs vs the developer engineers are staggering. The developer engineers are truly working with passion. I love these types of videos
I admire more the guys at AMD that get a fraction of the money and still do a great job. Except some bad apples that run to Intel like Raja Kuduri, to make new failures like Arc.
All the more importance to having your CEO being an actual engineer who gets it, instead of some business administrator.
Intel, AMD, and Nvidia all have true pioneering engineers as their current CEOs. That wasn't always the case with intel.
So, you're saying "big wigs" and marketers do not have passion? Are you sure about that? Seems extremely naive.
@@marsovac it's funny because all the gpus since he left have been miles better bar the 6500
@@Noah-lj2sg And both can be done with just as much passion.
We love that you love these videos. So we will make sure to keep bringing these to the community 💙
thank you for allowing this truly amazing video to happen!
Good on you for doing this. You certainly didn't have to and it was a lot of fun to watch.
Tell linus to come back to FM... we want visitors!
I feel like this tour never would have happened without Pat, an engineer, in charge. Marketing and Finance would probably just say "they don't need to know how we do things."
yeah... it's miracle they did not fire and blacklist the marketing department half a decade ago...
I’d say Legal & Finance (marketing departments can be extremely controlling, but not always), but I totally agree. Sometimes it takes an engineer to say, “guys, we’ve got all this cool shit; with a little diligence we can get a superbowl’s worth of advertising for the cost of escorting a well-connected nerd through our facility.”
Finance and Legal - RISK NOOO / Marketing - what is this and can we sell it
So True! Which is weird since Marketing is supposed to be in tune with what people want.
@@DanKaschel I reckon they earned the marketing by the access. Never seen anything quite like this and so it's a "fairs fair" deal for me.
Just in case anyone was wondering... Overclocking can be used to test the maximum capabilities of technology,
but it does not represent the standard use case and will void product warranties. 😂
I was starting to wonder if that might be the case. Thank you for the clarification that, indeed, while overclocking can be used to test the maximum capabilities of technology, it does not represent the standard use case, and that it will, in fact, void product warranties.
Ok, I would really like to know why overclocking a product voids the warranty, and yet literally NO ONE actually tries to stop overclocking. And even making products overclockable in the first place
it will void your warranty because you're taking apart the whole protective coverage of the socket, not because you overclocked it
@@souroshi woosh
@@insanelytamed?
I'd love to see a behind-the-scenes video on how this tour got approved at Intel. I've worked at a few very secure facilities (Google DC, avionics firms, etc) and I can't imagine how difficult getting approval would be.
ive been as offsite worker in intel facility - not so awful as you may think.
Gotta remember he's been working with Intel, and some higher ups for quite a while.
I'm sure he just simply asked them, and they asked others and eventually they were like "Ok"
It's not that difficult. All you have to do is be the boss of one of the largest, reputable, trusted, enthusiastic, non-controversial, family-friendly, PC-focused tech RUclips channel in the world... :)
I mean, this video came out months after the first visit, and I am guessing they actually shot it in one sitting... I dont wanna know how many revisions this video went through to get approved xD
Linus has said repeatedly on WAN Show that when a manufacturer offers a tour he tells them he doesn't want to do it unless he has free range (within reason) to actually make a cool video that's LTT's own creation. I'm sure there was an ongoing dialogue between Linus and Intel that lead to it.
The overclocking room was definitely a moment of passion. You can see the guys ready to jump in and have some fun with their creations. This is where the passion is, and this is why they enjoy the LTT group. Because they feel the same passion, despite their corny jokes.
I love that there’s still more content coming from the intel visit. I understand why Linus says it was his best moment as a RUclipsr.
This. I've really enjoyed these
Not just as a youtuber, but as a tech geek in general.
Great youtubers can shoot a few videos from one day and space them out, rather than just 1 3 hour video...
Indeed. And for us as fans! Incredibly cool tech we get to see
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I would just like to say a great big THANK YOU to Intel for allowing someone to document the awesome things that are going on behind the curtains. I really loved this set of videos about Intel's Israel Design Center!
One thing I love about this series is the unerring respect LTT shows for the proprietary, trade-secret-driven nature of everything that's going on there. Obviously, they wouldn't be allowed to visit without agreeing to many conditions of secrecy. However, there's never any snarkiness, because Linus 100% gets it: this is how businesses work. Intel, AMD, TSMC, and nearly every company in the world making anything novel exist at all because they develop their own trade secrets and use those to compete. And because Linus and crew respect that in every way, they're allowed to visit and they get to make video after video of interesting, detailed, enthusiastic, engaging, and completely unique content. Hats off to LTT, and thanks to their awesome hosts for making this happen. It's been great.
And also hats off to Intel. Apparently (iirc from a Wan show) LTT won't go tour a lab if they have to blur everything, or lots of things are kept secret. He said that it isn't just him being "oh, I am important, I need to see this", but more so a n"I need to do my job, make content on it" thing. The fact Intel was willing to let Linus in at all is incredible, and also how much they were able to show him to get lots of content out of it.
Nothing else to add, just good work LMG.
sometimes i really hate those kinds of reporters that dont even think twice to expose trade secrets from company tours to get as much views and revenue. even if the company sues them afterwards and managed to stop it from spreading, sometimes the damage is done
@@TazerXI they seem to have a good understanding of what one another wants or needs. So there was definitely good communication going on, which in turn has produced favorable results.
Hey Linus,
One thing the engineers didn't touch on in great detail - you were pretty much right. PS/2 is still there because early silicon can't always use USB right away (and SSHing in remotely similarly) and we still need a mouse/keyboard for some situations before USB is ready. PS/2 always works :)
I like how linus genuinely looks so happy, not like this is all an act, I really don’t think it is
Plus the tears at the end. He was humbled.
I agree. He's like a kid who's just been let loose in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory.
I agree - this is pure, unbridled BatChest
Definitely, this series of videos was very clearly genuine passion. It really shone through that this was what he is all about.
Can you think of a better place for a huge nerd to nerd out completely?
I admit, while i am in the AMD camp since K6 and never really did go to Intel (even in the dark times...) - i have huge respect for the engineers at Intel and i am mighty impressed.
They are enthusiasts also.
There's and old saying "Never underestimate Intel's engineers"
So you bareley ever experienced a fast processor?
@@groenevinger3893 lol
@@shapshooter7769 BC they have so many of them right?!
Watching Linus support the entire weight of this "priceless" motherboard by only the PS/2 port (3:38) sent chills down my spine...
HOLY JESUS !
At least he didn't drop it
linus is that part of us that learned about antistatic straps but never used them and felt badass cause we've never blown anything up except turned up to 100.
Like he said: ps/2 never fails it just works
and your body's aching all the time
If any Intel people read this, this type of things we, the consumers, want to see. Seeing how much work and effort and all the interesting stuff goes into creating a CPU is fascinating. These types of videos are great and I hope to see more of them.
Thank you!
This exclusive behind the scenes at Intel series is one of the most interesting so far.
For me, it's also been the most effective marketing "campaign" for Intel that I've seen since the bunny suits. Hearing the story and passion of the engineers involved in creating these marvels of modern engineering is going to have a profound effect on me for my next build if only because I can appreciate more what I'm putting in my chassis.
Where can I see this?
15:17 for anyone else that was curious, that's a PNY 3090 that Intel uses on their test benches.
Wonder if the engineers picked PNY for any particular reason, or if that's just what they could find in stock
Might be because PNY uses the reference design.
I would assume, Intel gets lots of Quadro cards; PNY is the only brand for those. So while having a business relation with them, they most probably asked their GPU guy to throw in some gaming GPUs.
This is what was available to purchase with a reasonable supply timeframe at the time. GPUs were scarce and very expensive.
Just for some information, usually for the same product, they'll use the same hardware part over the entire line for consistency purpose. But differ products might use differnt brands. So I assume that the original designees takes stock availability into consideration from their vendors.
@@officerrambo Hey, Is PNY a reliable brand for low end GPU's like 3060? I'm planning to take one from them.
Imagine being able to have that power in your hands, being able to swap the chipset without needing to swap the entire motherboard, being able to change system parameters without needing to enter to the BIOS and being able to control every aspect of the system would be awesome! I would love to have this control over my electronics.
6:18 that socketed chipset really is cool, i have some what if thoughts about how end users could use this.
@@Mr.Morden You'd see some dumb DIY hacks, and some people bricking their systems, and then need a whole new chipset LMFAO.
> "It has stuff that most consumers wouldn't need..."
> "You can swap out the chipset."
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@@arnox4554 most consumers, read almost all of them, don't need that. They wouldn't even know where to start with it.
@@arnox4554 well intel needs to make money somehow, they sell their chipsets to board partners if u can swap it then they no profit
This bring back so much memory of working on the 1366 Bloomfield platform. I had worked on one of those dvt motherboards and it was amazing the amount of parameters you can change on them and watching the qol changes slowly being available to the market. Still amazing to see the passion on the engineers working on validation, feels good going down memory lane.
13:49 - I love how E-cores are called "Atom", like the old netbook low-end chips and the P cores are just "Big". I mean I suspected as much, Atom did not die, it just became the new Celerons and Pentiums.
@бак SHUT UP.
AIUI "Atom" is the over-arching architecture that Gracemont, Goldmont etc adhere too. I suspect it's purely marketing to have called them P/E cores rather than Atom etc.
the original atom designs are long gone. the e cores are basically celeron class cores optimized for low power. Atom is just a marketing name now.
I mean its microarchitecture Gracemont is literally the successor of atom's Tremont.
Yeah, it's a bit of a marketing mess but it's true, those Atom CPUs never died (luckily), they have been evolving this whole time.
At some point they also started labelling them as Celerons and Pentiums, like the ones belonging to the "desktop lineup" (the core i3/i5/i7 CPUs).
You can only tell them apart from their product numbers (at least for the consumer market) the "atom-derived" are Nxxxx or Jxxxx, the "core ix-derived" are Gxxxx.
They're excellent CPUs as far as I'm concerned, they're obviously not intended for heavy work but they are perfectly fine for most of the stuff you'd normally do on a basic desktop or a laptop, I even had to use MATLAB on mine, for an exam, it ran with no issues.
Those are some very interesting MSRs they've got there. I'm sure it's all heavily locked down and fused off before leaving the lab, but imagine what a couple of overclockers can do with that level of control over cpu internals
The transparent honesty, as well as the access LTT gets. Is why for me they are the one stop for all things tech. Thank you to the entire team for your hard work and dedication!!! I know you do it for us as well as yourself and it makes the most interesting, educational information that the world has ever seen.
Agreed. Any time I hear people bitching about how they're not as good as GN (no offence Steve, I watch you too) because he takes apart things, and LTT isn't a real tech nerd I'm like, have you seen their behind the scenes videos on supercomputers, quantum computers, Intel's top secret facilities?
Just because they're also more accessible doesn't mean they don't do awesome work on the real tech stuff. If anything it's a testament to how well that team works together, and because he has vastly more resources than some of the smaller channels.
@@morosis82 GN do amazing work, but it's geared up to the enthusiasts who want to know the nitty gritty details.
LTT is for giving people information at a higher level to get people interested in all things tech, not just PC hardware.
Yeah I often think about how there are so few outlets you can actually really trust these days. LTT has never once broken that trust
@@stephen9894 my apologies, who's GN?
@@Hi_its_Kartik GN stands for Gamers Nexus, a RUclips channel that is run by Steve and his team.
Easily my favorite video to date on the channel. I'm an Electrical Engineer that designs test bench to test the modules for my company and I found myself pausing the video several times to geek out what the engineers at Intel made. Love the video!
I still can't get my head around how that much tech can be made in such volume, at such a relatively low price, working so reliably and be sitting on my desk. If guys like them at Intel stop working, we lose so much.
If you were to snap your fingers and magically "delete" all the current fabs in the world, it would literally take ~20 years to get us back to where we are today. It's utterly insane how much of the world relies on so few facilities.
Trillions of dollars spent over 60+ years of industrial development.
Bruh. There are other CPU making companies...
Linus in Israel, great !!!
In my first job out of school (1975), we were designing a brand new system, using an Intel bit-slice processor (intel 3000). I purchased from Intel at the time, their new (at the time) ICE system (in-circuit emulation), which was the forerunner of the systems you were seeing. Oh by the way - the system, is hung below the now EF-18 Growler, still slamming into the carrier decks when trapping. Also, I had to fly to one of their FABs, to pick up #5 - the fifth 8080 mil spec chip off the production line - for our evaluation system.
This is my favourite snippet from within the comments. The development stories you could likely tell. One of the most fascinating documentaries I've watched was the rise of the Wild Wiesel's during Vietnam which didn't include much on more post Vietnam capabilities for obvious reasons.
EW aircraft I find fascinating.
@@OneLeatherBoot - You also have to remember that in those days, you had to build your own tools, assembler, linker, loader, debugger - before you could do any meaningful work on the actual project. Then there were the ROM emulators (ROM chips were running $200 each, and then the UVROMS came along - but were slower). Also, needed to have logic analyzers to watch the instruction execution stream, along with a high-speed bus hanger (that we designed) to grab the data addresses with the data along with a DX/DR support utility (data extraction/data reduction) to take the output and make some sense of everything. Lots and lots of engineering had to be done around the project as well as the project itself. Also, created a set of macros to emulate a Fortran like somewhat higher-level language (in the assembler) - to boost productivity.
linus was moved. so humble. this is why i love this guy. keep up the good work dude. thanks for being there for everyone.
This was a great opportunity to see how engineers at intel think. Thank you for sharing something that most will not have seen before, and will most likely never see again.
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0:29 Wait a sec... that font... that shadow.... that color... Coincidence? I think not!
Oh hi Sal!
@Gamerzvm • 7.9B views It won't.
This was amazing to watch, I really hope Dr. Su let AMD show off their stuff.
This is cool stuff and brings back some good memories for me. Back in the late 1980s, I worked in an R&D lab and got to assemble prototypes, test and repair the new hardware. The engineers too had a great sense of humor and enjoyed their work they did, and in the process taught me a ton too which I applied later in my own EE classes I was taking at the time.
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I just got back from visiting my family in Israel and my brothers and I went kayaking and all the Intel folks were there for a fun outing, it was a hilarious coincidence after watching all the videos in this series.
"These guys are the real MVPs" For real. They're the brains behind the operation but we wouldn't be nearly as informed without you and your team. Thanks LTT! Amazing to get to see some of this stuff!
I just love to see how engineers with so much dedication and passion for their product it's awesome!
How they do what? Just playing :)
Hate it when I change my sentence halfway through and forget to take out the words that don't fit anymore!
110% agree with last 2 mins, seriously thank you to everyone involved at Intel and LTT for bringing this series of vids to us, it was so amazing.
Hopefully teachers will show this vid and the others to their students and show them how cool tech is :D
Thank you everyone.
You guys put out sooo many videos I dont always have time to watch them all, but I never miss videos like these. The more in-depth behind the scenes hardware content is by far my favorite.
This is one of the most incredible tours through a factory I care about I've seen. Definitely would love to see future collaborations beyond just Intel extreme upgrade.
This is so cool. It would be a great follow up if Intel could sit down with Linus and explain how these harnesses didnt catch the ILM issues with 12th gen and how they are addressing that in future harnesses
Big props for the guys @ Intel. They're really awesome and passionate about their jobs. This series was incredible, and I won't forget all of this.
Interesting to know that Intel's techno wizardry department uses cpu-z in their kit.
Thought the same:D
And hwdinfo
how else do you think leaks happen when an undisclosed CPU gets validated on a benchmark/app. Someone internally generally is the one doing it, or a company doing it with an engineering sample.
@ricky bobby Oh they definitely bought it. Intel doesn't fuck around, they have lawyers and backend staff that deals with that.
... when presenting to media. It's a familiar UI for outsiders. They probably have internal software for the actual work.
You can tell Linus was getting a little emotional at the end. You can tell he truly was honored to meet these engineers
I used to work at Intel and got to use RVPs a few times for different projects. Still learned a good bit from this video. Thanks!
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been on a tour of a company where I’ve worked for years, sort of checked out, then due to the visitor/new employee’s questions I find I’m learning all sorts of new things. Good reminder of how much I don’t know.
I'm not a computer guy anymore, but I never really even considered what the possibilities were for developers/engineers in this capacity. This is absolutely wild. Thank you. Your humbleness was awesome to see. Thanks, Linus.
Internal USB ports are actually super handy for people who use software like Pro Tools that requires authentication dongles, so you can just leave it plugged it in all the time
That's terrible security practice though
Just like writing your password on your monitor, you will never forget it!!!
I’d love that for my unraid server
@@georger5558 Its purpose is to enforce licensing, not grant access to data. If this were a 2FA dongle it would be a whole different story.
i am pretty sure they are just using the wires of the port for a priority protocol
they functions they were controlling happens before boot so USB protocols and drivers cant be used
it is normal to use comercial ports for other uses. VGA is another example, it is often used for uses other than display
This was the best, interesting and most humble video in a while. Thank you Linus! :)
big up for intel
this exactly the marketing they needed and theyre great for letting people peek in the fabs
This wont make intel any better in my book. Red stays in my pc no doubt. I hope that this is not their true agenda when they let LTT roam in their facilities.
@@didyliduu they dont think like a 10 year old like you so dont worry
I love this. We all grumble about tech companies, including intel, but the fact is that these guys live and breath their products and work hard to make them as awesome as possible. Of course business sometimes gets in the way, but these geeks are geeks like us. Geeks together forever.
hats off to the audio quality of this, good job in post-production! You can tell he's talking in a loud room, but this is very well controlled!
Fucking great PR. I'm still amazed he got this level of access, but it was worth it. Win win all round.
Next we want AMD to come around and let us have similar videos from their place
That would be TSMC.
@Posejdon how strong is youtube report?
@@skekch Not enough.
@@Code-n-Flame oh god not this argument again…
Keep the Intel tour videos coming, awesome to see the people behind the tech we all use.
11:14 That made me smile, loving the intel tour !
@linustechtips linus ive watched you since 2011 i grew up in a smalltown my mother was an addict and never met my father i never had a man to teach me things til i found your channel n found a love in electronics your sense of humor and humble attitude your more than just a youtube channel 10 millions subs are more than subs its 10 million people who believe in you some fo them being fatherless children like me who have to turn to your channel to learn the things others didnt care enough to take the time to teach 11 years later all i can say is thank you linus if you quit today then you deserve it your a great human and in a way feel like i know you as much of your fanbase does!! thank you linus!
Man, these videos are SOOOOO cool. That is so awesome that you got to experience this Linus, and thank you for sharing all of it with us vicariously through your content! This series was really awesome, very educational, and just all around badass! Shout out to intel as well for letting you go there and make content about this place, it's processes and how it all works and comes together in the end! This is the kind of stuff that makes me LOVE LTT content. So cool 😎
It's awesome to see the love the Intel team gave you. Hope to see more in the future
I'm absolutely blown away that they let him touch one of those considering he drops literally almost everything.
It's an alderlake board, not really needed anymore.
WOW! Linus at his lovable best: Like a proud Father whose kid just moved up two grades in school, he is so excited by this entire situation! FanTASTIC video! TEAM BLUE, for me, for life!!
watching this makes me want a tour of a motherboard manufacturer and see how these things get built, maybe something to think about for the future?
Gamer Nexus already have that if you are interest. search for gamers nexus motherboard factory on RUclips.
Just pick and place machines. Nothing special really.
Pcb fab is a little boring but the process of planning out the layout and making it happen would be cool.
Pretty cool, even with the "mandated overclock disclaimer". Really neat to get this inside look. Really awesome that they were able to get all the folks to sign off on this video series.
While the Alder lake and new tech is really interesting and super cool, I'd be also very interested to see what goes into the Xeon or whatever server hardware validation. It seems like those CPUs especially get used so heavily, that they need to be extra reliable.
I would assume they get the same treatment in respect to everything they do with the consumer grade cpu's with the major difference being ecc memory
the intel Israel division is a team of 1st of all really really good and kind people, everything else is a bonus with them.
Something interesting at 10:17 - that looks like a much older GPU on the test bench than I would have expected
maybe it's just for display output?
Keep in mind that it's for thorough testing of the processors. They probably run tests with older GPU's as well to make sure the new processor plays nice with the different GPU architectures that are still around plenty.
12:09 from looking at lots of motherboard schematics, I'm pretty sure the intel CPU diagnostic port is called XDP, not XTP (unless they changed it on newer versions). Just a small thing but thought I'd mention it
You're right it is XDP
Welcome back to the joys-of-Linus-in-his-playground-and-i-can't-even-be-mad series
I hope AMD lets Linus in their facilities. Just imagine what kind of cool things they're doing there.. 😩
everything will be on lockdown so NVIDIA and Intel don't get any clues on how their chiplet and V-cache designs work for Zen4 and RDNA3 that are almost out.
@@MaxIronsThird AMD on lockdown but Nvidia and Intel dont care?
So you saying AMD is using some sort of alien technology? you insane?
@@Freestyle80 I'm saying AMD has much better tech at this point, you dufus.
This intel stuff is so cool, I never would have thought they would be so advanced for testing but I guess that’s what I should expect!
Yeah I would have never guessed a huge corporation like Intel would have a liquid nitrogen overclocking setup in one of their labs just to see how far their tech can go.
My brother in christ, they literally trick sand into doing billions of calculations per second. Of course they have advanced validation equipment.
The port you pointed at is a DAP port, the blue box is a ITP-XDP3, its Intel's hardware debugger i have one in my drawer at work, it makes for easy debugging of a kernel or the bios.
Im loving seeing the more corporate side of tech, it's like seeing something forbidden! something that was never supposed to be revealed to the public!
Love the end of this video, every day engineer’s deserve love
The music was a bit distracting this time, which it never has been. Just a word of note
I thought so too, but if you notice the background audio, there is a really overpowering fan or mechanical noise in the background. The higher music helps distract from this while still being able to hear Linus.
Linus being blown away by the half moon m.2 screw, I’ve had the same thing on a ROG z590 for like a year now lol
Dang, this was cool as hell. Along with the other factory/lab videos. I'd be curious to see how this process flow works at AMD/TSMC. I'm sure a lot of the tools/processes are similar but since it's not vertically integrated as it is with Intel, I'd like to see that.
Its crazy to see the stuff i touch at work on youtube. I love that they let you in to showcase it!
Imma just say the SSD swivel thing should be standard practice.
I think ASUS already have something similar. A tool less M.2 holder
This game gave me some unexpected warm & fuzzies. I think partly because of how excited Linus genuinely was, and partly because the engineers are clearly the same type of goofy nerds we are, making the CPU an "LTT Edition" in real time ❤
This kinda stuff is amazing to me; I'm over here in the states running decent hardware, and I'd like to think I push it pretty hard sometimes (read: I'm cheap).
Meanwhile in Israel, these people are pushing 5 ghz on an efficiency core, because they can. 🤯
An age ago I worked in PC hardware development with Intel platforms and it's cool to see some of the tools I was using are still in use at Intel and that the public has gotten a peek at them.
The USB debug interface was just starting to be worked on when I exited that industry so it was interesting to see it actually in use now.
As for Linus's popularity there, it's a bit hard to explain what it's like to work in that kind of environment. Guys like Linus are great for taking all the info out there on a product, condensing it, and repackaging it in a way that is consumer friendly. To use the game analogy, no one would know anything about the game that is being played if it weren't for guys like Linus. No one would even know which games are the important ones either if not for tech reporting like this.
I am waiting to see that watercooling in ltt editor room 😂😂
I fixed a computer today for a customer, when I dropped it off I met the customers 12 year old son who owned the pc and he's interested in building pc's, he did mention LTT and smiled when he did, Linus and the team please keep doing what you're doing it's a great service to society. Thanks.
This entire series is a computer nerd's wet dream happening. Thank you Linus and Intel for this gem of a content
This is the best marketing Intel could ever have, and yet I believe every word that comes out of Linus' mouth. Absolutely fascinating stuff!
Did Intel request the on-screen disclaimer every time Linus mentioned overclocking?
They have to. They are showing off their internal tools and discussing overclocking, which without the disclaimer, would be conveyed as Intel endorses overclocking.
@@Ravenousjoe They certainly don’t HAVE to, but legal thought it prudent and nobody wanted to die on that hill. Tale as old as time.
@@DanKaschel they do. If they don't then an end user with a broken CPU can claim false advertising because this would otherwise be proof that they are actively endorsing overclocking.
Trust me, people are dumb and if a corporation gives a consumer an inch, they will take a mile. So yeah, they have to to avoid lawsuits.
I wish more companies would do this kind of thing. It's kind of like seeing the behind the scenes videos for films. It really makes me appreciate what goes into making the final product.
Whilst im not a fan of intel (imagine how far we would be ahead with there anti competition practices ) , this factory tour was awesome , the factoy tours are a great part of the channel .
your precious AMD does literally the same anti-competition practices as soon as they get the chance or did Zen 3 prices not strike a cord in your brain?
Props to Intel for being such good sports with this - they trusted journalists to show off how cool this stuff is and not interfere noticeably, they put on a real show :D
Man what a nerd dream... loved this video, the energy of the people, the tools. Total nerdgasm
I love the disclaimer Intel's lawyers made you slap on the screen every time you said "overclocking".
I got a real kick out of seeing Linus so genuinely excited like he used to in his really early videos. What an awesome behind-the-scenes look into Intel’s test benches. Thanks for this, LTT! 😀👍
Linus looks like a kid when he enters a giant candy factory, love the content.
3:09 EDP??? 445???
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That swapping of the PCH is brilliant!
Remember, Linus is just sitting there, wetting his pants while talking about tech, and the engineers have to stand there and babysit him so he doesn't spit out any intel he isn't supposed to xD
i see what you did there LOL
That was a good one lmao
I would LOVE to see a behind the scene video on this, there are probably 200 intel marketing security personal surrounding Linus.
I want Anthony to go to system76 and give us a tour just like this but for Linux optimized motherboards
so just off the shelf boards with a custom firmware?
There is also the laptop and desktop designs not just the motherboard too you know.
This is one of my favorites series of videos. Truly informative. Good work.
swapping chipsets is something the consumer could definitely benefit from
This is super cool. General tech is great, but it's so dope getting to see the behind the scenes of what makes all of this possible
Wonderful video Linus and LMG, I appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos and it always make me interested and excited to see where the tech industry goes in the next couple of years.
Dude this video is soooo cool. I love that they treat linus really kind knowing that he is someone who is really driving the consumer towards his passions and inspiring young people who will in turn allow them to do their jobs with a bigger audience. I love seeing passionate people and this video is incredible!