'YOU'RE SOUR!' 🤬 PASSIONATE American Liverpool Fan CLASHES With Goldstein Over PL Matches In The USA
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
- talkSPORT's Andy Goldstein and Darren Bent take calls on whether the Premier League should take games to the USA.
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I live in the US and I am still absolutely against the idea of league matches being played outside of England
So you're against NFL games being played abroad as well?
I agree im from the uk but i love nba, i seen the spurs and pacers are playing TWO games in Paris 2025 instead of the usual ONE, which is still too much
Same.
League Cup games?
@@Daniel-cx6zw As an American, I am. I hate that they play regular season games outside the US. Preseason games are fine. But not regular season. It's a big fu to the fans imo.
American here (sorry).
Football in England is SACRED, and meaningful games SHOULD NEVER BE PLAYED IN THE STATES.
If you want football to still be beautiful, KEEP US OUT OF IT. Please. We ruin everything, don't let us ruin this, too.
Stfu lolol you sound like a fool
Top man Yankee 🇺🇸🤝🏴
Stop trying to kiss their asses bruv
You guyz together with Oil states made pReMiEr leAgUe
Without American money, they wouldn't be anywhere they are today
They should be kissing your feet and getting puppeteered by you guys .. Ungrateful hypocrites
It's already ruined
@@sam-ze8bz You my be right. I personally think VAR has been one of the biggest cancers to the beautiful game.
Where did the idea of 'Instant Replay' come from? 🤔🤦
I’m and American citizen, Born and raised in London. This is absolute nonsense. Playing games away from England is the end of football.
U ain’t a real American 🇺🇸‼️🙄😆
Yes, I like it
Americans think Crystal Palace is from breaking bad
😂
Ignorant comment. I'm born in America 🇺🇸 raised in Africa my whole life I watch football Manchester United I might even know more football than you.
😂😂😂😂
crystal meth fc 😂😂😂
FIGHT.... and WIIIIN. No thanks. I live in Colorado, they do the Icelandic clap for every corner, it's shocking. Premier League games should never be taken abroad, atmosphere is everything.
DEFENCEEEE😂😂😂
100%. Retarded idea
COOOME OOOONNN SSSEEEEEAAAATTTLLLLEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on united hahahahaha
I lived in Denver for 12 years .. as an Englishman, these Rapids fans are well corny lol
Americans would stick an advert in, every time the ball goes out of play.
As an Englishman living in America, the experience is night and day for supporters. Going to a sports match in America is completely corny and choreographed. They even put up signs to tell the crowd to cheer and get loud lol Nothing will ever beat English fans!!!
Nothing beats being at a English game getting coins , etc thrown at you and hostile words
@@garethmackinnon6782and?
I’m a Texan who has supported Chelsea for over 20 years and 100% against PL games being played here. I’ve traveled to London twice to see Chels at the Bridge and there is no way to replicate that here in the states. You can see your favorite premier league team here during a pre season match, don’t disrupt the best sporting competition in the world for a bit more money and to please “fans” who aren’t really fans.
i make a distinction between fans and supporters. im 37 and its only in recent years people have started to use the word fan so much here. always used to be 'supporter'. Im a FAN of whats happening at wrexham. im a FAN of pep guardialoa. im a fan of many teams and individual football players and managers. Im not currently a fan of everton. I hate everything about the style of play and the manager and the state of the club. but im a lifelong supporter and i'll never support another team.
Darren give it a rest mate cause no explanation can convince me having football matches in the US is a good idea, it's a terrible idea.....
Benty is as retarded at that yank
He wishes he was a yank he's that desperate for their love and affection.
Bent should be ashamed of himself, honestly...
Im Zimbabwean used to live in Luton, die hard Chelsea, i now live in Canada!
PLEASE DO NOT BRING THE PREMIER LEAGUE TO NORTH AMERICA!
When i watch English football i expect it to be played in England, the atmosphere everything!
Nobody cares about football here, its quite ridiculous the questions i used to get back in Uni days, they legit still believe DAVID BECKHAM and RONALDINHO are still playing!
Or and the CHANTING is terrible,
“DEFENSEEE”, “kick it”, “believe”😂😂😂😂😂
True cringe fest in the US. How did you get a visa to Canada? Luton has a lot of Africans
@@jakehowie442 Wrong Luton has a lots of Pakistani and Hindu
Up the chels
👏 👏 👏 well said...
@@jakehowie442 yeah theres a decent base of africans in luton, after college in 2013, i applied to study university in Canada, got accepted pretty fast, got acceptance letter, went to apply for a Student Visa at Canadian Embassy (Study Permit) and i got it after 2months! After graduating I applied for Permanent Residency and got it in 2019!
Coming to Canada is actually very very easy!
Travelled around the World and met several Fans of various English Football Clubs. They all, without exception had the dream of travelling to the UK to watch a home game at Anfield, Old Trafford and may other Grounds, and one who dreamt of going to as many Grounds as he could watching his Team play. They all wanted their once in their lifetime "pilgrimage".
None of them cared about their team playing in their own backyard, in an Athletics Stadium filled with "Soccer" Fans.
Money...the rabid obsession with it,will be the downfall of the PL.
Having PL games abroad is criminal who cares what other people are doing everyone's watching us regardless NFL have to do games abroad for brand awareness because hardly anyone watches it outside of the states, we got all eyes on us.
League Cup 3rd round games?
European Football should be played in Europe, if Americans want to see it, come to Europe
Good to see many Americans of the same mindset
Anyone involved in football even humouring this idea deserves to be nowhere near the sport.
Bent has definitely been told to be in favour of it so this can even be a conversation because i refuse to believe he is stupid enough to genuinely support it.
Andy is 100% right. arguing with an idiot can be frustrating
As a British NFL fan the games in London have always been unpopular with the fans of the participating teams and the teams themselves, I'd personally much prefer to go and watch a game over there and have an authentic experience rather than watch the annual NFL pop-up shop at Tottenham or Wembley with a dead atmosphere
Tottenham too…reason is NFL is trying to expand game to global audiences…English premier league already has a global audience
Also NFL is pretty in the US, fat Americans eating hotdogs, nachos and drinking beer without watching the game. Goldstein was right.
Only Kansas seems to have passionate fan base and Oakland back in the day
Even suggesting this is disgusting, I need to take a shower
I don’t know what’s up with Andy recently, he was right about the snooker moving yesterday now he’s bang on about this too
😂 that gave me a laugh
he is being exposed every show now he has zero knowledge
The Americans keep moving games to different countries to try and grow the very American centred games globally. Football is already a global game and doesn't need that same strategy for Global growth. La Liga trying it in a desperate bit to catch up their global audience to the English game. Keep the English games in England.
As a Canadian let’s just get a few friendlies here . All the friendlies in the states or Asia . No way any regular season ( meaningful games ) should be played outside of England though
As an Arsenal fan i will organize and protest this idea the same way we protested the super league idea. ifs the fans game not the owners game
Arteta will tell you to sit down fool and you will thank him
@lloydkhambule If that were to happen, I would love to help, and I'm an Arsenal fan from and in the States.
So only fans in England game? How dumb does that sound? Do the players only get paid from revenue collected in England? Of course not let’s not be dumb and understand if you have a global game it makes sense to attempt to tailor to ALL of your fans not just the ones who think they have Devine right to the game because they were born in a particular location.
@@bissau190😂🤡
The fans not the reason the super league was shot down. UEFA and the powers that be the only reason. Don’t be naive to think otherwise
If this happens no point calling it a domestic league anymore.
I'm south african. Love EPL and other leagues. Do not ever take the game out of it's home. That's what off season is for
Im from England and moved to Canada 28 years ago. Even in this part of north america anyone i would mention football too which they call "soccer" would call it a certain three letter word that starts with g and ends in y. Sure, there are some north americans that love the sport but its very few and far between. Keep football in countries that actually live the sport. Let people from north america watch men play throw and catch while wearing tights, shoulder pads and helmets while slapping eachothers bums every 5 seconds because thats super manly 😂
Thank u, i grew up Luton but now live in toronto, people dont care anout football here, i recently graduated, alll those so called fans who wear Man Utd and Arsenal jerseys have ZERO idea when their teams are even playing and could barely name 5players on their team! When I watch English football, i love the atmosphere culture heritage and tradition! I expect english football to be played in England!
When i watch El Classico, i expect it to be played in Spain unless its a Champions league tie
American sports mix their fans around the grounds. Liverpool v UTD in New York would have Liverpool fans sitting with UTD fans. No atmosphere at all doing that. No recognized English crowd chants for your team
Exactly. Having the games here in the US would have terrible atmosphere.
I mean, i disagree with playing PL games in the the US (as an American), but come on...all of that can easily be rectified
I’m not travelling to Mississippi to watch Everton draw 0-0 against Brighton
The game would never be in Mississippi lol - they would only put it in New York, maybe Chicago (Los Angeles probably too far)
I’m not traveling to Mississippi if a world ending asteroid is screaming towards Earth and Mississippi is the only safe location on the planet.
What we have to realise is the model is completely different in the US. The teams are franchises so don't have 100+ years of community ties. The closest you'd come is getting the college games over in London. See how the Americans would take to that
Americans camp outside stadiums and throw bbq. The NFL culture there is MAD
Yank here, completely agree with Andy that no league should be played outside of their home country.
Spanish super cups in Saudi, no
NFL games in Europe, no
Prem games in the US or anywhere else, no
We love watching in the early mornings at pubs, we dream of making it over to our clubs stadium in Europe. It’s equivalent to a pilgrimage for us, and for many others across the world.
Tv execs, bankers, and lawyers are killing this sport that we all love.
"It’s equivalent to a pilgrimage for us, and for many others across the world."
And that's exactly what it was for me. Arsenal Football Club cured my fear of flying. Because I...just had to be there in person.
Changed my life. Now I go 2-3 times per year. When I can get a ticket.
Good yank
Jog on!! Just stick with your stupid sports!! Real football is not for you lot!! Absolute disgrace! Disgusting nation
@@MainmanSlim just stick with your deluded sports!!! Typical Yank
England doesn’t need to go to America - it’s already the most watched league and doesn’t need to advertise itself
Andy sounds like he's doing an impression of Idris Elba when he attempts an American accent
Most of the crowd will be wearing Messi Miami shirts regardless of the teams playing
Outrageous. Cant compare national sports of Baseball, NFL etc with global sport of Football. This started with pre season tours, that's where it should stop.
Goldstein has this nailed on. Its ridiculou to even consider when its the fans who have to go deep into their pockets just to get to that game whilst the owners rake in all the money. This is nothing but negatives for the fans and positives for the rich peoples pockets
Andy Goldstein is brilliant 😂😂
He’s a clown.
Its called the EPL, English premier league, keep it in england, they alreadt have the right to our 3 oclock kick offs
On this rare occasion I totally agree with Andy
Tell a season ticket holder that they're losing a few games so the already richest league can get more money.
American sport they need to go abroad because American football and baseball etc don’t haven’t really have a huge following so it’s about growing it.
Premier league/champions league don’t need to go to America because it’s worldwide anyway.
But money rules the world
Completely agree… American sports need more publicity, cuz they’re weak, boring sports nobody cares about. Premier league is the most watched league, along with the La Liga. Don’t need to globalize the sport, it’s already global.
Iam Liverpool fan and i dont like agreeing with Mr Goldstein but iam with him here no way can this happen no way if it happens thats me done
Imagine telling Milan fans that the Milan derby was going to be played in Burnley or the el classico was to be played in America they would go mad to do to say it's just the English is wrong by far
Becuz none of those leagues were made by the Americans
Prem was made by the Americans 😂
What are you talking about. Barcelona and real madrid literaly just had a cup game in saudi 😂 also prem was popular long before americans and arabs@eL--RaL
Can you imagine the ultras?! 😂😂
Edinburgh derby gonna be played in the sparta praq stadium 😂😂
@@eL--RaLwhat ??? Bahahaha ah Iv heard it all before but and congratulations to you. This the one comment Iv seen out of so so many that proves people comment on things that they have literally no clue about. Well done you 👏 Americans only pumping money into the premier league because of how successful it was beforehand. Went straight over your head though didn’t it 😂😮
As much as I would love to see a Prem game of my boys in red here in the states. Don’t let this happen. I’ll settle with the occasional Pre-season friendlies. It started there… Keep it THERE! Have some respect for customs and traditions !
I was the Leicester fan
Goldstein’s accent was class 😂😂
that wasn’t u it was me
It was me actually
Good call that mate
@@pizzagateisreal thank u appreciate it
they can have pre season friendlies and whatever cups they make up
its enough
I’m a Hammers fan from Australia, and as much as I would love the opportunity to see West Ham play live, and for something that isn’t a friendly, I just don’t feel it is right. That being said, I imagine there are plenty of supporters of clubs outside the UK that may think differently. An opportunity to see their team play in a game that matters may be once in a lifetime. Not everyone will have the funds to go over to the UK to make that dream come true.
Bent couldnt be more selfish or wrong here
I quite literally disagree with everything Goldstein normally says, but he’s spot on here. It’ll be the beginning of the end if it happens.
Would never watch another premier league match if they send games to the US.
3rd round League Cup games?
All talk
@@aka1mite it's called TalkSport, not 'All talk'.
Darren,the most important people in football are the fans.Without them,there is no game.I would have thought even you would know that.
No chance and Benty your absolutely wrong about the passion of NFL MLB Etc no we’re near as big as our game, I’ve been to every major sport over there. They are more passionate in college sports
College sports is the closest comparison to the passion of football in Europe.
But it's still not the same. No college game could compare to a fixture at Elland Road.
What club wants to give up a home game for risk of points and possible trophy with extra mileage at the end of the season or beginning? The opening home match of the season should obviously be watched home fans, I think it’d be completely disrespectful to not do so. It’s nothing against Americans, it just doesn’t make any sense footballing wise
"Need to adapt" and "everything changes" are euphemisms for "rip the soul out of the sport"
My ex missus was American (Kansas) & went a few games the Americans are passionate about there teams but they wouldn’t be out fighting for it like English fans, I went sporting KC game and home and away fans shared same turnstiles & one bloke sat next to me in a DC top and they weren’t even playing DC 🤣🤣 You can not take English football to america. Like you said benty thats why we have preseason tours so foreign fans can see the team in there own country stop trying push the game away from loyal fans
Ita ridiculous that a national league game is played out of the country .
One game will soon turn in to 3 or 4 games a season. This one game proposal is just to see the reaction.
Do 3rd round League Cup games
People like Darren Bent are the reason Football is dying for the average fan with shocking takes like this.
Wouldn’t want this to happen but Community/Charity shield is the only game I could realistically be okay with being played abroad. It’s a season opener, it’s a competitive game but not a league game and it’s played at a neutral ground. It’s the most suitable game to host abroad. The FA will most likely rebrand it as ‘The FA Super Shield/Cup’, maybe change the format like Spain, having two semi-finals and a final between the winner and runners up of the league and cup or the previous seasons Prem top 4 and market it all over USA.
Absolutely not. Shocking.
As an American gooner who’s never been to the UK, I never want to see Arsenal play a premier league home game outside Islington.
Just stick with your stupid American sports!!
Its liverpool football club. Which means they are the football club based in liverpool
So they don't travel to other countries when they play in Europe then ?
Then why do Prem get some of their money from Americans ? 😂
@@eL--RaL That would be because Americans purchased the club(s) when they seen the $$$$$ involved.
@@eL--RaLyou’ve commented on every talk sport post you absolutely melt. Get a life kid.
@@phildemetriou440 for european competitons
This even being a discussion is disgraceful. The game we grew up to love is slowly becoming a sport I don’t recognise.
There are games where teams from the UK play in the USA it’s called pre season.
And that's perfectlly fine, long may that continue!
But Premier League games should only be played in England (and occasionally Wales!).
@@MainmanSlimwhen Wrexham makes it to the pl
How has Darren bent managed to keep his job is beyond me. Very good footballer but if I want a useless take on football no matter the subject all I gotta do is tune into this show and listen to the dribble that comes out of his mouth. He just can’t be that bad. Am convinced he told by the boss to just talk nonsense to get a reaction
Goldstein nailed it when he said, "Is there not enough money if football already" and he's absolutely right, because that's all it seems to be about these days. Moving PL or CL games to America is just pure greed!!
Just look at what the Americans have done to F1, the Vegas grand prix for instance how awful it is
I’d love a proper club World Cup , imagine having to go away to Flamengo in Brazil etc or Away to raja in Morocco
Why would anyone want to go to morrocco it’s full of Muslims ?
If they are to do that, it can only ever be done in the years when there isn't a World Cup or Euros. And it's about time UEFA were made to make the Champions League a smaller more concise competition again where only the top 2 take part.
It's a redundant point, NFL/Baseball teams are franchises and move cities every few years anyway, so a game across the pond is hardly a big deal
Bent’s face when he listed those UCL champs and said they were the ones that would draw a crowd. 😭😭😭😭
😂😂
Goldstiens right ! Darren bent showing his limitations if that was the case he would not have become a player here !
This should NEVER happen. I'm all for pre-season tours, but not league or cup games, that would be, like you said, the beginning (or maybe even the middle) of the end!
The NFL all sit together imagine that in the uk 😂
First play games outside England, next thing you know - Lil something is performing a half time show...
But why stop there whn you can also have cheerleaders performing for every throw-in and set-piece 👀💀
As an American I would love to have a match played out here but also understand why so many are against it … going to see City vs Barcelona this summer in Florida!
Send the USA Everton v Luton town. Or Burnley v Palace. They'll soon get bored of the idea.
That's not what they want. They want the top 4 over there.
The reason NFL have games in the UK is because the NFL have been continuously trying to branch out the brand to different parts of the world, Its called marketing, NFL has 400mil fans, Soccer has over 3.5 billion, Its not rocket science, Soccer doesnt need to branch out, Its already a worldwide sport, Absolute nonsense debate.
noooooo to matches abroad!! wtf!!
hard enough to get tickets to matches as it is!! its the 'English' Premier Lg!! Benty just wants to go to US on holiday to watch the nfl & football
It would be the ultimate disrespect to the loyal English fans if games were taken overseas. Whats Bent going on about catching up? It’s about adapting? So what?? Keep loyal to local fans. Full stop.
The only thing I don't understand is why can't America learn too love their own League.
I spend a lot of time in the U.S. they do seem to be taking a notice in the premier league in the last 5years in particular, the coverage on USA network is second to none. If La Liga want matches over here, the premier league will want too.
There wouldn’t be 40,000 fans chanting at all because that’s not a thing in football in the USA. It’s a totally different experience going to football in USA as opposed to England and Europe.
the closest you have to that are the collegiate sports mainly football. Still does not compare to Europe but it comes the closest. Don't expect anything close to that for NFL games.
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American here, but premier league matches shouldn’t be played here. But remember half of the premier league is owned by American owners so you have to understand why these owners is pushing for matches to be held in the states
Its detrimental to the owners, the players, and the club. Its the American networks who are pushing for this, they want their companies advertised to a billion people on TV. La liga will do it, they need the money.
The beginning of the end was when the PL disrespected FA Cup Final day. The oldest and most important day in the football calander, and they scheduled league games. Absolute money grabbing wkers.
That would be good for money but when you think about players for example, the average time for travel one way is probably about 9 hours so thats 18 hours of flight and with games sometimes being 3 days apart would be very difficult
with a playoff system at the end each game can mean slightly less, also only in the last few years have any of the contendors come over
As an American, my personal opinion is I would rather not see PL matches played in the USA. Community Shield, fine, because it's an exhibition match. But league games a largely made special by the environment created in the grounds, and you can feel it even on TV.
However, the notion that there are no proper fans in America is just absurd. We have to wake up at 5 in the morning to watch matches on the weekends and will travel across the country to see our teams play once in a preseason game. So the idea that people in the US don't understand the game and love it is patently false.
Bent is so far detached from the regular fan that he doesn’t care about the effect this has on
It would be a shocking decision. Not only would it be a shame for the fans in England, but a terrible reason to pollute the world further.
Frazzles are amazing and it's 100% been a thing here since I was a kid
Bent is so ignorant here
There are millions of die hard Arsenal fans here in US including me 😂
Plastic filth
Yeah cool but an arsenal home game stays in London
As an Arsenal fan in America I agree with the General…..NO games in America please!!!
You’re plastics. Not real fans
Liverpool soccer club is an amazing franchise and would fill our huge NFL stadiums across America.
Sports are luxury entertainment in the US, football in the UK is passionate part of life. Die hard football fans live and fight by their team, no American fan does that.
Imagine paying a season ticket for Liverpool and then next thing you know Merseyside derby or both Manchester games are abroad. I’d be frustrated
How exactly would that even work😂
“Well lads, i know we’ve already got an insane schedule here. But hey! This midweek game, we flyin to Texas!!!”
EFL clubs should be pushing for this. Having PL games moving to the US will drive engagement for every other UK league.
I’m a huge City fan and I know City would be one of the first teams playing in the US, and I don’t want that at all!!
I would rather fly over to England and watch them play at home or in London or anywhere in Europe. Way more special that way 🙏🏽
I’m a huge City fan too. Mancunian born and bred.
My grandad went to Maine Road in the 1940s as a boy, then my dad since the 1970s and me from 1996, my first game.
I still sit next to my grandad (and dad) at the Etihad with our season tickets.
I welcome any City fans around the world, and any American blues are blues so definitely will be welcomed in Manchester.
But our identity is tied to the City of Manchester.
The thing we have over United is we’ve always played in the city boundaries and they play just outside!
We cannot move home games abroad, it’d be horrific and kill the whole thing for me.
It was bizarre enough in 2008 having to play a competitive game in the Europa League qualifier, at Barnsley’s ground, because there was a problem at the Etihad hosting the game.
@@tomben6180 Die hard City fans in America would rather travel to England to watch City play.
We wouldn’t even want them losing a competitive home fixture off the schedule. That would be crazy, considering it would reduce City’s advantage in a league game.
Who would want this at City?
@@iancameron3799 exactly!
Andy needs to get out of England. He doesn't realize the massive support for the EPL, beyond Britain. Personally I was born in Barbados, now living in Canada. All my friends and family, support English football. Me, I'm a Gooner, my brother is Chelsea. Some friends are Liverpool and some are Man.U. This is my truck's license plate.... " ARSNL N5 " my basement is decorated Arsenal. Football is worldwide!!
What is Benty on about, for the global aspect. Football does NOT have to sell itself whereas the NFL, Baseball is trying to promote their sport.