Thank you so much, I'm getting ready to take the IELTS test and your videos mean great deal to me, helping me with pronunciation. Still have a lot to go, but I'm on the right path 😊
Great lesson. Thank you so much Christine. Unfortunately there are so many more words with similar pronunciation, like border, harder, smarter and so on. Pronouncing 'rdr' in one word is insanely hard. I've been trying to master this particular pattern for more than 4 months now and the result is not even close to be good. but I always have my trick. I'm trying to avoid these words when speaking 😂
Yes, these words are definitely challenging, even for native speakers. I have to slow down and be careful. Any practice you do on one of the words will probably help you on the others, at least. Thanks for watching, and good luck with these challenging combinations.
Another viewer mentioned that the /d/ is actually part of what makes this hard, and I think my response to him might help you, too. Here's what I said: the /d/ in the middle of words is also a flap, just like flap /t/ in words like "better." We don't build up much pressure for the /d/ sound, so there's not the same strong burst as there is in a /d/ at the start of a word. One way to think of it is that if you were to say something like "hard dirt," vs. "harder" you'd have a much different sounding /d/ on "dirt" than the d in "harder," even though the vowel sounds are the same. I'll try to remember to talk about this in another video for you, so you can hear how it sounds. If you are able to come to a Friday live class, you can remind me and I'll cover it then.
Hi, first off... thank you for making this video. I always have a hard time pronounce "order". In fact, I have a hard time with any words with "RDER"... such as murder, recorder, hoarder, border..etc... When I say it, my "d" doesn't sound the same as when native speakers say it. Where does your tongue touch to make "d" sound?
Hi, yes, these are difficult words, and I think we do adjust our tongue position for the /d/ sound to be ready for the "er" which follows the /d/. So we might be making the /d/ sound a little further back than usual. I have videos for some other words with "-rder", in case you'd like to check them out: murder: ruclips.net/video/uTwYm6LomMc/видео.html harder: ruclips.net/video/pm2x7cP6eL4/видео.html
Hi, I'm wondering how you actually pronounce the letter d in that word, do you pronounce it like in the word did day, etc or like a flat t as in party, city etc I already have the right "r" sound but i find hard to pronounce the letter d in that word, if I pronounce the d as in day I kind of find it strange, basically yeah i'm not sure about the letter d in words like order, harder starter Thanks in advance
Hi David, in general, the /d/ in the middle of words is also a flap, just like /t/. We don't build up much pressure for the /d/ sound, so there's not the same strong burst as there is in a /d/ at the start of a word. One way to think of it is that if you were to say something like "hard dirt," vs. "harder" you'd have a much different sounding /d/ on "dirt" than the d in "harder," even though the vowel sounds are the same. I'll try to remember to talk about this in another video for you, so you can hear how it sounds. If you are able to come to a Friday live class, you can remind me and I'll cover it then.
Thanks for the quick answer, so it'll be like a "soft d", and yes, when i pronunce the d as i do at the beginning of a word it just sounds unnatural, and just say im a new suscriber here, hope you doing well
Thank you so much, I'm getting ready to take the IELTS test and your videos mean great deal to me, helping me with pronunciation.
Still have a lot to go, but I'm on the right path 😊
I'm glad they are helping you!
Great lesson. Thank you so much Christine. Unfortunately there are so many more words with similar pronunciation, like border, harder, smarter and so on. Pronouncing 'rdr' in one word is insanely hard. I've been trying to master this particular pattern for more than 4 months now and the result is not even close to be good. but I always have my trick. I'm trying to avoid these words when speaking 😂
Yes, these words are definitely challenging, even for native speakers. I have to slow down and be careful. Any practice you do on one of the words will probably help you on the others, at least. Thanks for watching, and good luck with these challenging combinations.
Another viewer mentioned that the /d/ is actually part of what makes this hard, and I think my response to him might help you, too. Here's what I said: the /d/ in the middle of words is also a flap, just like flap /t/ in words like "better." We don't build up much pressure for the /d/ sound, so there's not the same strong burst as there is in a /d/ at the start of a word. One way to think of it is that if you were to say something like "hard dirt," vs. "harder" you'd have a much different sounding /d/ on "dirt" than the d in "harder," even though the vowel sounds are the same. I'll try to remember to talk about this in another video for you, so you can hear how it sounds. If you are able to come to a Friday live class, you can remind me and I'll cover it then.
Hi, first off... thank you for making this video. I always have a hard time pronounce "order". In fact, I have a hard time with any words with "RDER"... such as murder, recorder, hoarder, border..etc...
When I say it, my "d" doesn't sound the same as when native speakers say it. Where does your tongue touch to make "d" sound?
Hi, yes, these are difficult words, and I think we do adjust our tongue position for the /d/ sound to be ready for the "er" which follows the /d/. So we might be making the /d/ sound a little further back than usual. I have videos for some other words with "-rder", in case you'd like to check them out: murder: ruclips.net/video/uTwYm6LomMc/видео.html harder: ruclips.net/video/pm2x7cP6eL4/видео.html
@@SpeechModification Wow, thank you for responding so quickly! I will go check your recommended video right now. You are the best! Thank you!
Hi, I'm wondering how you actually pronounce the letter d in that word, do you pronounce it like in the word did day, etc or like a flat t as in party, city etc
I already have the right "r" sound but i find hard to pronounce the letter d in that word, if I pronounce the d as in day I kind of find it strange, basically yeah i'm not sure about the letter d in words like order, harder starter
Thanks in advance
Hi David, in general, the /d/ in the middle of words is also a flap, just like /t/. We don't build up much pressure for the /d/ sound, so there's not the same strong burst as there is in a /d/ at the start of a word. One way to think of it is that if you were to say something like "hard dirt," vs. "harder" you'd have a much different sounding /d/ on "dirt" than the d in "harder," even though the vowel sounds are the same. I'll try to remember to talk about this in another video for you, so you can hear how it sounds. If you are able to come to a Friday live class, you can remind me and I'll cover it then.
Thanks for the quick answer, so it'll be like a "soft d", and yes, when i pronunce the d as i do at the beginning of a word it just sounds unnatural, and just say im a new suscriber here, hope you doing well
Still now, I am difficult 😢 I practice and practice to see this video
Yes, it's a difficult word for sure!
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Thank you. This word is a little hard when you have to pronounce it quickly :(
Yes, this is hard even for native speakers!
@@SpeechModification u should make a video with the 're-order' word 🤣😅
@@SpeechModification hellooo again. Do you have any video with the 'digital' word?
@ Not yet, but I can add it to my list of Word of the Day videos to make.
Hi Sebastian, I'll cover the word "digital" tomorrow: ruclips.net/video/TTWq011G-5E/видео.html
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