Microsoft "owning" the mod just means you cant SELL it....which is normal for all minecraft mods..... Mans killed his braincells by eating too much aluminum foil
actually incorrect. microsoft owning a mod means they can make a trailer for "modded minecraft" that uses your mod without your permission or knowledge. and its also wrong to say that microsoft (or any company) owns the mods made for the game, in much the same way it would be wrong to say epic owns all games made with unreal. if microsoft owned every mod for minecraft automatically just by it being a mod for minecraft, then the argument could be made that any random tool maker owns everything made with their tool. you hammer a nail in to your new handmade chair, and the maker of that hammer can claim they own the chair. this is something I would recommend watching louis rossmann to learn more about.
Nah, they actually own mods you create for their game, it's written plain as day. Whether or not they act on it is another thing, but they do write in the fine print that your work for things like mods and etc is property of Microsoft. It's not tinfoil hat shit to not want to spend time creating something that you are legally not in control of at all. I understand both sides of the argument, but this dude went off the deep end lmfao
tbh its not illegal to make your own mod and say its a spiritual successor to orespawn, especially if you use your own textures because he never trademarked anything on top of the fact that its literally just a minecraft mod. I can't wait for someone to remake the mod and spit in his face when he throws a fit like every time before
@@sharpsrain8302 tbh just hearing how much of a baby the guy that made orespawn is i did get a lil mad lol. that kind of behavior gets on my nerves like nothing else haha
@@O-OO1-O To be bluntly honest, great art doesn't always come from great people. I enjoyed Lovecraft's work in spite of his "shortcomings," but I admittedly never truly enjoyed Orespawn... and knowing what kind of gonk its creator is me kinda glad it's gone forever, too.
Ok, I did a little research on the controversy, and here is a little more context. Regarding the whole EULA thing, what happened was that when danger was originally going to update orespawn to 1.8, he wanted to monitize the mod and make it so there were multiple "versions" like a regular mod version and a Premium mod version that had features like Mobzilla and other bosses/items behind a PAYWALL. The "problem" that danger was so pissed about was that the Microsoft EULA prevents people from selling/monetizing a mod/mods they make for minecraft. Though if he really needed money, he could have just made merchandise OF the mod like T-shirts, ect., and that would have been perfectly fine. Then he moved orespawn over to his third-party minecraft game danger zone where it would sit for years. When the popularity spike hit minecraft in 2019, with tons of people asking him to update orespawn, he finally caved and said he would work to update the mod to 1.12. The reason danger gave for the go-fund-me was to help pay modders that would assist him with updating the mod as orespawn is a really big mod. Well, it turns out that the money from the go-fund-me was used to try and MAKE a VR PORT OF DANGER ZONE INSTEAD OF PAYING MODDERS to help update ORESPAWN. Because of this and one of the modders leaking a prototype build of the orespawn update, the modders and danger stared to conflicting with each other on discord, and the whole discord fiasco happened. Afterward, all the modders who helped with orespawn left. This is probably what pushed danger over the edge as ANYONE who tried to make a mod that replicated orespawn or a mod that was just INSPIRED BY ORESPAWN was given heavy harassment by danger as he would try to force them to take-down their mods, a prime example being insanity craft. He would send them cease and desists in the mail and threaten legal actions and lawsuits over "stolen" assets that he did not own in the first place. Comment contined in replies 👇
@firepawthecat808 huh, what the hell happened to it? Anyway, what the comment did say was that one of the devs that danger had working on the 1.12 port of orespawn when he left, took all the models and progress he made, and turned it into a orespawn successor called CHAOS AWAKENS. It's mc version is for 1.16, and he is currently remaking all the stuff that was in orespawn with updated textures and models.
I find this all the more ironic because OreSpawn had stolen an asset before. The TLDR about it was that they had taken the Praetorian Model from the Alien vs Predator mod, modified it slightly, and used it as a model for the Nightmare. It wasn't until the modeler of the mod got really pissed off that Danger backed off.
I always thought old people hated gamers and video games considering how often they speak slander towards us. So pretty surprising to find an old guy playing video games.
While a much smaller bit of drama, there was a time when Danger (or whoever was working for him) threatened to sue MCArchive for both hosting old builds of the mod and having source code for the private developer build that was leaked on their own server. Nothing ever came of it, but it is something you wouldn't really believe unless you were there. MCArchive still hosts OreSpawn for anyone who wants it. And many other old mods that are awesome!
Not to mention one of the old orespawn moderators on discord went after the more creeps and weirdos rebirth mod and tried to get it cancelled and harassed the devs, then got it banned from curseforge until the original creator of the mod stepped in and let them know he's okay with the fan remake of the mod.
it's a funny thought of someone getting nostalgic for an old minecraft mod and look it up only to be immediately met with an insane mans ramblings about vaccinations
@BlackghostLT ssundees LP of orespawn was legendary, I loved it so much. I hope if a remake is made I'm the Future they capture a lot of the magic it had
3:58 I'm fairly certain there are at least some instances of somewhat popular Minecraft mods being copied/plagiarized by certain Minecraft marketplace developers to sell for their own profit. Kinda sucks, and Microsoft making the whole microtransactions marketplace in the first place has been the catalyst for stuff like this happening, but i dont think its entirely Microsoft's fault, unless they dont crack down on exact plagurism of the mods...
Someone ended up plagiarizing the Aether on the marketplace. The creator of the original mod also works for Mojang and he couldn't actually get it taken down.
@@sandwichqueenserves him right for not putting it on marketplace himself first, especially with how well known the Aether is (even console players have heard of and want the official Aether) and the fact that he's been working for Mojang since 2020 🤷♂️
@@illford we need some name for the people who are LGBTQ without it sounding so... horroble. i guess they could be called "the gays" but i don't think they themselfs would accept only one sexuality being the word for all of em
God orespawn was my childhood it's just such a shame with what happened f*** you danger and thank you for chaos awakens team for creating orespawn for modern minecraft
@@Xmannn001 wow really? would it be done like in 7 or 10 years later? i can't play until 10 or 7 years later because i want to focus on my studies and getting drafted to the military afterwards 💀
4:02 maybe someone commented this already, but didn't pistons originally come from a minecraft mod and mojang added it to vanilla? But this was WAAAAAY back
If I had a nickel for every time a mentally unstable programmer became an online micro celebrity/rabbit hole I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Literally all artists and philosophers do this after a while✨✨ Microsoft did what the "bigot nazies" predicted: they added censorship, cashgrab servers, and increased the performance requirements.
I think the saddest thing about this whole thing is that Danger initially made Orespawn because his son was a huge minecraft fan at the time. Heartbreaking that a fathers attempt to try and connect with his kid over something turned into a bitter, spiteful old man trying to cling onto his 10 minutes of fame to spout conspiratorial and hateful messages.
Thankfully it’s not too hard to get your hands on the most up to date version of the 1.7.10 version of the mod (the last version the mod was in before it was being ported to 1.12.2 which I would not recommend you use) And even though one of the dimensions still runs at like 2.5 frames per second…I still enjoy using this mod to this day and it still hurts seeing how it met its downfall.
oh no way!! can't believe i missed this comment haha. yes thank you so much, your document was a HUGE help especially with all of the info about the discord drama 🙏
9:06 imagine being this npc that exists solely to get praised and adored by your creator. it's like a god that shuns what it deems heresy only to return to what it knows best
I found this 2-3 years ago, having known about the mod for 8-9 years due to old popularmmos videos. I posted a thread about it on the hypixel forums hoping someone may notice this and decide to make a video on it. Thank you for making this video
60+ year old was clearly off his rocker. Guess it comes with age in some elderly. Just hearing him talk is evidence enough to prove that he has mental health issues that he needs to address. He's also probably a divorced individual who possibly had relationship issues, and he only found Minecraft as his "safe place" after his mental health hit rock bottom. He should be behind bars for the doxxing incident because it would keep people safe. It leaves you wondering was this his first time doxxing?
1. Damn this realy shows some of the corruptedness of the older minecraft community, no wonder it declined in popularity (before its 2019-2020 revival) when some of the old modders were doing things like adding girlfriends who could be "shut up" with diamonds to the game💀 2. Js wanna say that I really like the style of this video and these kinds of documentaries are the type of things I would want to watch on netflix. I remember a few years ago you had commented on one of my videos, and Its been amazing to see you grow from that time into what you are now. Although Ive been kinda slacking and haventn uploaded much, seeing your journey is an inspiration to me to start releasing more content. Thanks for being such a great channel and know I will be watching with joy to see you grow further!
Craziest thing about this is that, while Chaos Awakens is being developed (and its really making beautiful progress) I did hear from a developer that Danger himself was okay with this mod being developed, which confused me for a long time.
You forgot to mention how he at one point added Russian "president" Vladimir Putin and the top Russian military General (Who as of now is fired) to his game. He also talked them up like they were the savors of mankind, it's on his youtube channel I bet.
Just wanted to let everyone know that an updated version of orespawn IS in the works as well as the old version still being playable! They have a server called chaos awakens that aims to recreate the mod as well as their own spin on it. Its currently not finished so some features are missing, but its worth taking a look into as its animations/textures are really refreshing and they are really in touch with their community. You should be able to find the link to it in cursedforge where you can download the newer mod.
DrZhark helped with implementing horses though, and I’m like 75% sure same with whoever made the Pistons. Ender Chest was as well, but honestly it was such a popular idea (and I’m pretty sure there were like a dozen ender chest mods) that it was bound to be implemented in some form
@@MakianTheWorld they were but none of this really matters cause the guy was originally going insane for Microsoft and his mod owner ship or whatever, and ALOT of this stuff was before microsoft.
Honestly I’m glad that Orespawn has a remake/successor. Chaos awakens is the name. It has the bosses, the dimensions, the weapons and armor, and the feel of orespawn. Though the textures are redone.
Oh man Orespawn, I haven't heard that since I was a kid. That girlfriend video from PopularMMO REALLY took me back 😭😭 of course 11 year old me saw no issue 💀
missed mentioning the persecution of people who tried to create a port (addon) of orespawn for minecraft bedrock like me and LegitDragonb0y. And also some people side with Richard Clark and defend him and attack those who try to recreate the Orespawn, I had to stop the development of the Orespawn addon I was making due to these attacks and persecutions. (sorry for my english).
update as of 12th of september 2024, the author had just announced that he will be leaving both DZ and Orespawn, and the official website is taken down, so the drama has come to an end, at least for now.
OreSpawn is one of those mods that I call "made for youtube". They are typically conglomerates of features that are in no way consistent or have anything in common, just a potluck of whatever "fun" ideas dev had in the moment. I put "fun" in quotes because while such nothing-soups are fun to showcase in a 10-15 mins videos, they are extremely boring to actually play with. Like, ok, you have those 20+ "new" armors (that are just palette-swapped vanilla). What do you need them for, exactly? If they are better than diamond \ netherite - they will make you OP and the game boring, if they aren't better - you won't bother crafting\enchanting them. Same goes for mobs - if they don't feel like they belong in the world of minecraft, you'll fight them once to record a cool vid and forget about them, etc. There are reasons people miss Thaumcraft so much. That was one hell of a mod, with it's own story, rich and engaging mechanics, the joy of discovering new things and well, occasionally blowing your base up. OreSpawn won't be missed by anyone because there's literally nothing special about it.
Can you try the zetacraft mod? It adds a new dimension, tons of mobs, mini bosses and weapons, even some stuff from movies and anime and a giant robot you can pilot and has some devastating weapons. It's the most unknown mod.
3:32 The closest I can think in terms of "Microsoft or Mojang using/stealing modded content" is for when they posted the "Java&Bedrock Edition" trailer (owning Java means you own Bedrock and vice-versa).; In the video, when showcasing Java edition, the first blurb is "Supports user-created skins and mods!" followed by showing the Create mod, a village structure mod (I cannot tell you which, my best guess is Towns&Towers), and then Comforts (the lean-to) in that order. I'm sure now there's more examples of things where Microsoft/Mojang allow in content on the Marketplace made by people be except that one fake Aether on Bedrock Edition that got past people, despite having no actual approval by the Aether Team or KingBDogz, anything else you'd have to comb through current marketplace content to find which I'll save my wallet the torture of.
@@darth3911 Ah yes, slightly retextured and the same essential moveset for bosses. Just different enough to not be caught by the teacher. Dude, come on, it was only a few weeks ago the image for the mod was it's version of King. It might as well be the port for newer versions.
3:52 That's talking about direct coremods that change the actual minecraft.jar Mods using mod loaders are still in the green, you still own that. You aren't distributing a version of the game, you're distributing instructions on how to make a different version of the game This is how revanced and pokemon rom hacks exist. They use "patches" which are essentially the same thing but less sophisticated as there's not much way for inter"patch" communication so you can't mix and match
Absolutally love this video, orespawn has been my favorite mod for over a decade now and I love to see people still covering it. Very sad what has happened but nothing we can do about it.
It would be nice to get a mod where villager can build their own village... what i mean is like you left some villager somewhere and when you came back they build their own civilization 😅
This looks like the most boomer guy to have ever made a Minecraft mod. He looks to be far right for some reason, and used Libreoffice writer (an free alternative to Microsoft Word) to write up his "bounty." What a mad lad 🤣🤣🤣
Haha, I remember being in the servers. Katara had alts that convincingly got mod perms and it caused a LOT of chaos (Like I got sent NSFW and death threats to my email chaos). The evidence we had was flimsy and the timeline is pretty empty, but I'm still in a server where they stupidly put SEVERAL of their alts in.
This is the worst activity that people of all politics, cultures, fandoms, ages, etc support. Purposefully taking down meaningful historic software and mods because "its the creators wishes". Even if this the most heinous and disgusting criminal on the planet made a nostalgic mod from our childhood's, it better for the world to have their old mod still accessible to everybody, (as well as get used in the original media and works of other users!!) then for the creator to take down their dying ship with them. This is not a privacy issue, or a "s**** assault-level consent issue". This is an internet archival issue. Nothing should be ever be forgotten or lostmedia; nothing at all.
Honestly, I had the feeling of unease when playing Orespawn, I always found it kinda ugly and I mostly played it as I was a fan of the youtuber duo in AlanticCraft back when it was Joebuz and CodyMaverick, as I honestly was more there awaiting for them to reupdate their Divine RPG mod pack as that mod was one I loved a lot more before it just disappeared. back in the 1.6.4 days, maybe early 1.7.10 but unlike Orespawn I never hear anyone talking about whatever happened to it.
One of these servers was called the "White knights of orespawn" and it was interesting seeing all the drama and arguments against the owner and Katara getting spread around by mods and such while I was there.
gonna be honest I completely understand why he didn't want to support Microsoft, they are a pretty evil company and to be honest I would do the same in that regard
He calls discord hateful because they followed their ToS for once and banned a server that risks someone's online safety that was entirely due to him wanting to put someone on the streets which would lead to their death. Hypocrite
Why must everything inevitably become political? I don't give a shit what you believe, as long as no one is physically being harmed by you because of it. Can't we just keep all that in real life?
I do agree with you to some extent. But it does feel kind of egotistical to place yourself above the discussion of politics. It’s valid to be passionate about politics.
@@madeline1714 This may come off like a comeback or defensive, but I didn't say I was above it, I asked why politics must be in everything. I don't like talking politics, mainly online as most people take it way too far, on every side. Not only is it rarely an actual conversation, but it's also inarguable. It's usually a waste of time talking about it and it just becomes depressing over time.
@@tristanfarmer9031 you didn’t directly say you were above it. But making a statement against the general concept of politics is only really possible if you aren’t influenced by it. Which I shouldn’t have to explain is very privileged.
@@madeline1714 I see how you would get that from what I said. I am just a regular dude in the US, just as affected by politics as anyone else. I personally use the internet as an escape, something away from all my problems, which to my knowledge, is very common. It's that bringing real life problems onto the internet I have a problem with. I understand that sounds selfish, and it is, but I think it's reasonable enough to understand. I'm not here to vent about my problems to attempt to disprove how privileged I am, as I definitely don't have it as bad as some may, and I'm very grateful for it. If I was born at any other time, I'd be dead. I recommend using a different word when talking to a stranger on the internet you know little about. Other than that though, you're not wrong.
@@tristanfarmer9031 wow, surprisingly reasonable response. Choosing to disengage from the discussion without disregarding it completely. It’s surprisingly rare to see someone handle something like that so maturely. Props to you /gen
It is too common for mod author to act like that, in Skyrim community is difficult to find a modder normal person. I think this fame just went up peoples head
I'm pretty sure that's a different OreSpawn, which just spawns ores (as its name says) instead of adding many different stuff. That mod's creator makes it very clear in its description.
@@cst1229 it was wtitten like this ''the new version of the famous mod orespawn'' i clicked on it and it showed me the same thing i saw 8 years ago,but idk if im halucinating or it was just a dream or its real lmao im confused now
4:03 in fact the exact opposite has been proven. The reason minecraft added the spyglass item was because they tried to buy optifine (partially to use the zoom feature) and the optifine cretors refused the deal.
plain and simple. dont involve politics in games. this goes for all sides just dont, some of us play games to avoid the world created by caring too much about politics.
Microsoft "owning" the mod just means you cant SELL it....which is normal for all minecraft mods.....
Mans killed his braincells by eating too much aluminum foil
LMAO
actually incorrect. microsoft owning a mod means they can make a trailer for "modded minecraft" that uses your mod without your permission or knowledge.
and its also wrong to say that microsoft (or any company) owns the mods made for the game, in much the same way it would be wrong to say epic owns all games made with unreal.
if microsoft owned every mod for minecraft automatically just by it being a mod for minecraft, then the argument could be made that any random tool maker owns everything made with their tool. you hammer a nail in to your new handmade chair, and the maker of that hammer can claim they own the chair.
this is something I would recommend watching louis rossmann to learn more about.
Nah, they actually own mods you create for their game, it's written plain as day. Whether or not they act on it is another thing, but they do write in the fine print that your work for things like mods and etc is property of Microsoft. It's not tinfoil hat shit to not want to spend time creating something that you are legally not in control of at all. I understand both sides of the argument, but this dude went off the deep end lmfao
@@AzalofForossa there is precisely ZERO chance that is legally enforcable anywhere, so no.
This mod was apparently the sole reason I got into modding way before I started modding
tbh its not illegal to make your own mod and say its a spiritual successor to orespawn, especially if you use your own textures because he never trademarked anything on top of the fact that its literally just a minecraft mod. I can't wait for someone to remake the mod and spit in his face when he throws a fit like every time before
U seem like a nice person 😂
@@sharpsrain8302 tbh just hearing how much of a baby the guy that made orespawn is i did get a lil mad lol. that kind of behavior gets on my nerves like nothing else haha
@@sharpsrain8302 He don't seem like a nice person himself, makes sense no one would want to be nice to him either. Danger, that is
Someone is actually remaking the mod, called Chaos awakens or something like that
Hi, I am that person who did just this, it's called AdventureKraft
things went from
a slight red flag which might just been for humor
to HOLY SHIT HES GONE INSANE WHAT DRUGS DID HE TAKE WHO IS THIS PERSON
real fast
Really was wishing it was ironic humour. Just thinking of the lost potential the orespawn community could've been bums me out.
@@O-OO1-O
To be bluntly honest, great art doesn't always come from great people.
I enjoyed Lovecraft's work in spite of his "shortcomings," but I admittedly never truly enjoyed Orespawn... and knowing what kind of gonk its creator is me kinda glad it's gone forever, too.
'Things went from 0 to 100 real freakin' quick.'
THARN GOVERMENT IS TRYING TO SCAN YOUR TOENAILS FOR LOOT!!!
Every qanon supporter ever be like
Ok, I did a little research on the controversy, and here is a little more context. Regarding the whole EULA thing, what happened was that when danger was originally going to update orespawn to 1.8, he wanted to monitize the mod and make it so there were multiple "versions" like a regular mod version and a Premium mod version that had features like Mobzilla and other bosses/items behind a PAYWALL. The "problem" that danger was so pissed about was that the Microsoft EULA prevents people from selling/monetizing a mod/mods they make for minecraft. Though if he really needed money, he could have just made merchandise OF the mod like T-shirts, ect., and that would have been perfectly fine. Then he moved orespawn over to his third-party minecraft game danger zone where it would sit for years. When the popularity spike hit minecraft in 2019, with tons of people asking him to update orespawn, he finally caved and said he would work to update the mod to 1.12. The reason danger gave for the go-fund-me was to help pay modders that would assist him with updating the mod as orespawn is a really big mod. Well, it turns out that the money from the go-fund-me was used to try and MAKE a VR PORT OF DANGER ZONE INSTEAD OF PAYING MODDERS to help update ORESPAWN. Because of this and one of the modders leaking a prototype build of the orespawn update, the modders and danger stared to conflicting with each other on discord, and the whole discord fiasco happened. Afterward, all the modders who helped with orespawn left. This is probably what pushed danger over the edge as ANYONE who tried to make a mod that replicated orespawn or a mod that was just INSPIRED BY ORESPAWN was given heavy harassment by danger as he would try to force them to take-down their mods, a prime example being insanity craft. He would send them cease and desists in the mail and threaten legal actions and lawsuits over "stolen" assets that he did not own in the first place. Comment contined in replies 👇
It's not continued in the replies
@firepawthecat808 huh, what the hell happened to it? Anyway, what the comment did say was that one of the devs that danger had working on the 1.12 port of orespawn when he left, took all the models and progress he made, and turned it into a orespawn successor called CHAOS AWAKENS. It's mc version is for 1.16, and he is currently remaking all the stuff that was in orespawn with updated textures and models.
I find this all the more ironic because OreSpawn had stolen an asset before.
The TLDR about it was that they had taken the Praetorian Model from the Alien vs Predator mod, modified it slightly, and used it as a model for the Nightmare.
It wasn't until the modeler of the mod got really pissed off that Danger backed off.
i am not reading allat
@@perdo4571 its one paragraph.
when a man rants to a fake block man about the gays, you know he's lost it.
I've never seen a guy go so coocoo before
reminds me of that one theory about portal and companion cubes...
though there's a difference between gays and lgbbq
@@rusername literally where, are you dense? what do you think the G stands for in LGBTQ
@@Cera_01Only in LGB. Anything past that is a separate branch.
who thought that a 60 year old man(who seems like to wear aluminum foil before he sleeps)would be responsible for such a massive old mod. 💀
Frrr
Yeah, i was expecting some one younger
I guess boomers can still shape childhoods
Thats likely the lead poisoning talking ... or doing things.
I always thought old people hated gamers and video games considering how often they speak slander towards us. So pretty surprising to find an old guy playing video games.
ah yes. a 60+ year old guy who adds girlfriends in minecraft. Totally not weird
😂😂
totally.
@@CalebIsSalty yeds
Nah i saw it as funny / memes / just taking the piss
lol
While a much smaller bit of drama, there was a time when Danger (or whoever was working for him) threatened to sue MCArchive for both hosting old builds of the mod and having source code for the private developer build that was leaked on their own server. Nothing ever came of it, but it is something you wouldn't really believe unless you were there.
MCArchive still hosts OreSpawn for anyone who wants it. And many other old mods that are awesome!
Good to know
Not to mention one of the old orespawn moderators on discord went after the more creeps and weirdos rebirth mod and tried to get it cancelled and harassed the devs, then got it banned from curseforge until the original creator of the mod stepped in and let them know he's okay with the fan remake of the mod.
Ooo thank you! I've been trying to look for something like that for like a year 😅
@@sparquinn yeah, this part of the drama got swept under the rug very quickly.
Tbh, when the dude called Microsoft "the devil", my immediate thought was "That's fair."
Honestly based
based
Aren't other corpos also the devils as well? I mean, Sony is not that great either. Not to mention Nintendo being anti-fanmade games.
based
“Went insane”
*was not well from the very beginning*
it's a funny thought of someone getting nostalgic for an old minecraft mod and look it up only to be immediately met with an insane mans ramblings about vaccinations
stay mad lol
I loved this mod when I was younger, im still suffering from the whiplash of finding out about this burning train wreck crashing through hell
@BlackghostLT ssundees LP of orespawn was legendary, I loved it so much. I hope if a remake is made I'm the Future they capture a lot of the magic it had
@@atomiste4312change the note in your name to the poop emoji, cuz your tracks are all ass
@@atomiste4312 does he sound mad to you?
It's crazy seeing a man 40 years older than me acting 10 years younger than me.
3:58 I'm fairly certain there are at least some instances of somewhat popular Minecraft mods being copied/plagiarized by certain Minecraft marketplace developers to sell for their own profit. Kinda sucks, and Microsoft making the whole microtransactions marketplace in the first place has been the catalyst for stuff like this happening, but i dont think its entirely Microsoft's fault, unless they dont crack down on exact plagurism of the mods...
It is their fault. They have the resources to prevent these things.
Someone ended up plagiarizing the Aether on the marketplace. The creator of the original mod also works for Mojang and he couldn't actually get it taken down.
@@vendetta1429They can't, mojang/Microsoft make it really hard to take stuff off the marketplace.
@@sandwichqueen yeah, well that sucks...
@@sandwichqueenserves him right for not putting it on marketplace himself first, especially with how well known the Aether is (even console players have heard of and want the official Aether) and the fact that he's been working for Mojang since 2020 🤷♂️
I have known about this mod for ages but I never knew what happened behind the scenes. Great video, keep it up!
a 60 y/o is telling me that we are yappin nahh💀🙏🏽
Surprised he didn't get "OK Boomer"ed off the face of the internet.
why do you speak like a retard.
My Dog Threw Up In My Pillow HELP!!!!!
@@lemonedtoast Lick it up brah
@@jameson1465 SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!
I manually removed the girlfriends. It's the perfect mod now.
Haha I will make orespawn 2
@@NaraSherko you will?
@@winkystinky Yea
@@NaraSherko will it be better?
@@winkystinky Yea it will be in modrinth and new textures and no girlfriends
This is like the TempleOS of minecraft. Crazy, conspiratorial guy with an abrasive personality but clearly a lot of programming knowledge.
Tbh coding in Java for too long would drive anyone insane
@@totallymarcas someone who codes in Java I agree
As soemone who was forced to code on java for a school project
Id alsp go insane using java
9:18 LBGDQs 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
i love lesbian bisexual games done quick
Gamers are truly the most oppressed minority😢
Pretty sure you can call em wokists.
@@jackspedicy2711no that just sounds like someone who likes woks
@@illford we need some name for the people who are LGBTQ without it sounding so... horroble. i guess they could be called "the gays" but i don't think they themselfs would accept only one sexuality being the word for all of em
God orespawn was my childhood it's just such a shame with what happened f*** you danger and thank you for chaos awakens team for creating orespawn for modern minecraft
Chaos awakens is def the best orespawn remake, it just got a massive update a few days ago too!
@@Xmannn001 wow really? would it be done like in 7 or 10 years later? i can't play until 10 or 7 years later because i want to focus on my studies and getting drafted to the military afterwards 💀
Wait there’s another like it?? Where can I get it
@@VaIpire curseforge
4:02 maybe someone commented this already, but didn't pistons originally come from a minecraft mod and mojang added it to vanilla? But this was WAAAAAY back
They stole horses from a mod 🤷♂️
@@andrewlodge8065 The guy who made it is also in the credits and they worked with him to make it
@@andrewlodge8065No lmao? They literally got Dr Zark in to help make the horses
polar bears, dolphins and smooth lighting feature was taken from mods
If I had a nickel for every time a mentally unstable programmer became an online micro celebrity/rabbit hole I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
No doubt way more than twice if ya look
'I like elephants and god likes elephants so I made an elephant'
i think bro fell down the alt-right pipeline 💀
Still better than being a leftist
@@SMCwasTaken being too radical on either side is bad. I think, consensus is possible.
Literally all artists and philosophers do this after a while✨✨
Microsoft did what the "bigot nazies" predicted: they added censorship, cashgrab servers, and increased the performance requirements.
@@SMCwasTaken Being alt ANYTHING is worse than being on either side. Extremists are insufferable
Centrist gang rise up
I think the saddest thing about this whole thing is that Danger initially made Orespawn because his son was a huge minecraft fan at the time. Heartbreaking that a fathers attempt to try and connect with his kid over something turned into a bitter, spiteful old man trying to cling onto his 10 minutes of fame to spout conspiratorial and hateful messages.
Thankfully it’s not too hard to get your hands on the most up to date version of the 1.7.10 version of the mod (the last version the mod was in before it was being ported to 1.12.2 which I would not recommend you use)
And even though one of the dimensions still runs at like 2.5 frames per second…I still enjoy using this mod to this day and it still hurts seeing how it met its downfall.
May I asked where you downloaded it?
Eyyo, user who made the google document you sourced information from here. You did good, thank you for spreading the word 👍
oh no way!! can't believe i missed this comment haha. yes thank you so much, your document was a HUGE help especially with all of the info about the discord drama 🙏
I've literally been reloading youtube for the past 5 minutes for content. Thank you for posting I can finish dinner now
You're cooked
addiction
your cooked
Naw dawg you are COOKED cooked
cooked
these videos are just absolutely nuts
Your clearly not used to getting 5 likes, as a comment channel
ur channel is unbelievably dead wow
9:06 imagine being this npc that exists solely to get praised and adored by your creator. it's like a god that shuns what it deems heresy only to return to what it knows best
I found this 2-3 years ago, having known about the mod for 8-9 years due to old popularmmos videos. I posted a thread about it on the hypixel forums hoping someone may notice this and decide to make a video on it. Thank you for making this video
Something else, the mods been like this for ages, ever since sometime when the pandemic first started. Its really unfortunate
If anyone is worried, there’s an archive of Orespawn versions by an Ex-Dev
i have the feeling when danger kicks the bucket there are going to be ports of orespawn everywhere xD
There were no red flags whatsoever! How could anyone have seen this coming?!
Seemed perfectly legit to me!
@@witheredsea It just happened out of nowhere!!
truly an unfathomable outcome
60+ year old was clearly off his rocker. Guess it comes with age in some elderly. Just hearing him talk is evidence enough to prove that he has mental health issues that he needs to address. He's also probably a divorced individual who possibly had relationship issues, and he only found Minecraft as his "safe place" after his mental health hit rock bottom. He should be behind bars for the doxxing incident because it would keep people safe. It leaves you wondering was this his first time doxxing?
1. Damn this realy shows some of the corruptedness of the older minecraft community, no wonder it declined in popularity (before its 2019-2020 revival) when some of the old modders were doing things like adding girlfriends who could be "shut up" with diamonds to the game💀
2. Js wanna say that I really like the style of this video and these kinds of documentaries are the type of things I would want to watch on netflix. I remember a few years ago you had commented on one of my videos, and Its been amazing to see you grow from that time into what you are now. Although Ive been kinda slacking and haventn uploaded much, seeing your journey is an inspiration to me to start releasing more content. Thanks for being such a great channel and know I will be watching with joy to see you grow further!
Craziest thing about this is that, while Chaos Awakens is being developed (and its really making beautiful progress) I did hear from a developer that Danger himself was okay with this mod being developed, which confused me for a long time.
You forgot to mention how he at one point added Russian "president" Vladimir Putin and the top Russian military General (Who as of now is fired) to his game.
He also talked them up like they were the savors of mankind, it's on his youtube channel I bet.
Наш слон???????
That explains a lot
Okay, this is just getting weirder.
Just wanted to let everyone know that an updated version of orespawn IS in the works as well as the old version still being playable! They have a server called chaos awakens that aims to recreate the mod as well as their own spin on it. Its currently not finished so some features are missing, but its worth taking a look into as its animations/textures are really refreshing and they are really in touch with their community. You should be able to find the link to it in cursedforge where you can download the newer mod.
The Microsoft being the devil statement is super relateable though
Don't all corpos are also count, because they're all terrible as well.
The horses and pistons were originally mods.
The hopper too
DrZhark helped with implementing horses though, and I’m like 75% sure same with whoever made the Pistons.
Ender Chest was as well, but honestly it was such a popular idea (and I’m pretty sure there were like a dozen ender chest mods) that it was bound to be implemented in some form
Im pretty sure both of these mod creators had their names inserted on credits and maybe one or two got hired by mojang... im not 100% sure though
@@MakianTheWorld they were but none of this really matters cause the guy was originally going insane for Microsoft and his mod owner ship or whatever, and ALOT of this stuff was before microsoft.
@@MakianTheWorld yeah im pretty sure its the glowstone portal mod. I have no clue what its really called
1:03 all that comes to mind is Dan saying “here’s the bread you wanted now to make me a sandwich”
Why is "katara" a banned word in his discord 💀
He's from the fire nation
someone with the username katara leaked his mod update and he doxxed them 💀
@@archvenrdame 💀
Honestly I’m glad that Orespawn has a remake/successor. Chaos awakens is the name. It has the bosses, the dimensions, the weapons and armor, and the feel of orespawn. Though the textures are redone.
Oh man Orespawn, I haven't heard that since I was a kid. That girlfriend video from PopularMMO REALLY took me back 😭😭 of course 11 year old me saw no issue 💀
Daddy CalebIsSalty never fails to fill us up with his creamy content 😩😩
WHAT???
(i agree)
we can't let this be top comment. please.
so Truee!!!🫦 🫦 🫦
You are disgusting! ( i agree 😊 )
@@CalebIsSalty I think the viewers disagree 😭
missed mentioning the persecution of people who tried to create a port (addon) of orespawn for minecraft bedrock like me and LegitDragonb0y. And also some people side with Richard Clark and defend him and attack those who try to recreate the Orespawn, I had to stop the development of the Orespawn addon I was making due to these attacks and persecutions. (sorry for my english).
update as of 12th of september 2024, the author had just announced that he will be leaving both DZ and Orespawn, and the official website is taken down, so the drama has come to an end, at least for now.
You were fast
Microsoft owning the mod is blatantly simple. They dont want to get sued if someone made a mod similar to a future update they were planning.
6:35 Oh god. An older Minecraft player opening a discord server. Just put him on the fucking list now, we all know where this is going.
OreSpawn is one of those mods that I call "made for youtube". They are typically conglomerates of features that are in no way consistent or have anything in common, just a potluck of whatever "fun" ideas dev had in the moment. I put "fun" in quotes because while such nothing-soups are fun to showcase in a 10-15 mins videos, they are extremely boring to actually play with. Like, ok, you have those 20+ "new" armors (that are just palette-swapped vanilla). What do you need them for, exactly? If they are better than diamond \ netherite - they will make you OP and the game boring, if they aren't better - you won't bother crafting\enchanting them. Same goes for mobs - if they don't feel like they belong in the world of minecraft, you'll fight them once to record a cool vid and forget about them, etc.
There are reasons people miss Thaumcraft so much. That was one hell of a mod, with it's own story, rich and engaging mechanics, the joy of discovering new things and well, occasionally blowing your base up. OreSpawn won't be missed by anyone because there's literally nothing special about it.
this reminds me of visual ventures editing style
Can you try the zetacraft mod? It adds a new dimension, tons of mobs, mini bosses and weapons, even some stuff from movies and anime and a giant robot you can pilot and has some devastating weapons. It's the most unknown mod.
It feels weird, but nostalgic to revisit this mod, since I’m used to playing the newer versions of MC.
3:32 The closest I can think in terms of "Microsoft or Mojang using/stealing modded content" is for when they posted the "Java&Bedrock Edition" trailer (owning Java means you own Bedrock and vice-versa).; In the video, when showcasing Java edition, the first blurb is "Supports user-created skins and mods!" followed by showing the Create mod, a village structure mod (I cannot tell you which, my best guess is Towns&Towers), and then Comforts (the lean-to) in that order.
I'm sure now there's more examples of things where Microsoft/Mojang allow in content on the Marketplace made by people be except that one fake Aether on Bedrock Edition that got past people, despite having no actual approval by the Aether Team or KingBDogz, anything else you'd have to comb through current marketplace content to find which I'll save my wallet the torture of.
Can still buy the Ether 1 and 2 on marketplace, but they're just shitty single world experiences.....
What a shame. I remember playing the mod years ago and loving it for it's insanity, I was legitmately surprised to know who was behind it.
I remember playing with the mod after watching PopularMMos videos good times
I did love orespawn, but I think it’s time it steps out of line for it’s successor: “Chaos Awakens”
I like how this video didn't even mention that Chaos Awakens is an OreSpawn port and I don't remember it getting taken down.
Not quite it adds its own content in addition to slow releases of recoded content based from the oraspawn mod.
@@darth3911 Ah yes, slightly retextured and the same essential moveset for bosses. Just different enough to not be caught by the teacher. Dude, come on, it was only a few weeks ago the image for the mod was it's version of King. It might as well be the port for newer versions.
@@pained.anomaly Ports directly copy and paste the code and only fix potential bugs when updating.
Thats why Chaos Awakens is not a port.
If only he did the Physics mod strategy, he could've made money still and continued his relevancy.
3:52 That's talking about direct coremods that change the actual minecraft.jar
Mods using mod loaders are still in the green, you still own that. You aren't distributing a version of the game, you're distributing instructions on how to make a different version of the game
This is how revanced and pokemon rom hacks exist. They use "patches" which are essentially the same thing but less sophisticated as there's not much way for inter"patch" communication so you can't mix and match
out of all examples you picked the hack rom community that shares the roms most of the time
@@-rlmn do you want the undertale community
Was NOT expecting the LVL beat to be used in a Minecraft mod lore video THANK YOU CLAMS CASINO
Absolutally love this video, orespawn has been my favorite mod for over a decade now and I love to see people still covering it. Very sad what has happened but nothing we can do about it.
Do you still have an old version of it?
I also think that when the EULA says "modified versions of the game" they really mean pre-baked mods in the Jar. Side-loaded mods shouldn't count.
As a female I do agree giving us diamonds does shut us up in fact, it’s such great dating advice!
For those of you who don’t know this is a joke-
@@SomeRANDOMpersonwhodraws is it though? if someone said “shut up and I’ll give you a 4 million dollar diamond” I’d prolly do it
It would be nice to get a mod where villager can build their own village... what i mean is like you left some villager somewhere and when you came back they build their own civilization 😅
This looks like the most boomer guy to have ever made a Minecraft mod. He looks to be far right for some reason, and used Libreoffice writer (an free alternative to Microsoft Word) to write up his "bounty." What a mad lad 🤣🤣🤣
Bro could have used Ms word and failed
Why did you have to use emojis
im gonna use u @@AidanDaGreat 👅
@@AidanDaGreat Oh no! not emojiis!!!! I saw some smiley and it ruined my whole day!!!
i agree with hmicrosoft being the devil yeah
Haha, I remember being in the servers. Katara had alts that convincingly got mod perms and it caused a LOT of chaos (Like I got sent NSFW and death threats to my email chaos). The evidence we had was flimsy and the timeline is pretty empty, but I'm still in a server where they stupidly put SEVERAL of their alts in.
"when the LBGDQs rail on ya..." LMAAAAAO
0:37 Respect for the asap rocky instrumental here 😂
u the goat bro
Thank you so much man I’ve been trying to find this for 20 minutes straight
The gooogle docs sources pages was never updated :(
You are definitely wrong about them not profiting off mod content, some of the stuff they added to recent updates were mods back when i started.
Stealing videos is not okay.
Me when i saw the popularmmos videos appear at 2:05:man...now i wanna watch popularmmos again
This is the worst activity that people of all politics, cultures, fandoms, ages, etc support. Purposefully taking down meaningful historic software and mods because "its the creators wishes". Even if this the most heinous and disgusting criminal on the planet made a nostalgic mod from our childhood's, it better for the world to have their old mod still accessible to everybody, (as well as get used in the original media and works of other users!!) then for the creator to take down their dying ship with them. This is not a privacy issue, or a "s**** assault-level consent issue". This is an internet archival issue. Nothing should be ever be forgotten or lostmedia; nothing at all.
Honestly, I had the feeling of unease when playing Orespawn, I always found it kinda ugly and I mostly played it as I was a fan of the youtuber duo in AlanticCraft back when it was Joebuz and CodyMaverick, as I honestly was more there awaiting for them to reupdate their Divine RPG mod pack as that mod was one I loved a lot more before it just disappeared. back in the 1.6.4 days, maybe early 1.7.10 but unlike Orespawn I never hear anyone talking about whatever happened to it.
Terry A Davis has arisen again, and god has set him to improve Minecraft.
The best programmer in the universe
Bruh, it's on Planet Minecraft when I went to have a look 💀
I don’t think he has ever heard of Patreon. People will pay you for the content.
(Just not 75,000)
Even so, you cannot sell mods.
Selling it is just dumb anyway.
One of these servers was called the "White knights of orespawn" and it was interesting seeing all the drama and arguments against the owner and Katara getting spread around by mods and such while I was there.
Is it still up?
@@EggsBenedict-te4nj probably not I left a while ago
we headed to the retirement home with this one 💀🔥🔥🔥
I was watching this video at night and the way he said YOU SHOULD SUBSCRIBE in the end scared the shit out of me
ITS FINALLY OUT
gonna be honest I completely understand why he didn't want to support Microsoft, they are a pretty evil company and to be honest I would do the same in that regard
bring back the minecraft videos pookie
this literally is a minecraft video lmfao
@@CalebIsSalty'pookie'💀
@@CalebIsSalty the bedwars ones lil cutie
@@f3bjh hmmmmmmmmmmm ok
He calls discord hateful because they followed their ToS for once and banned a server that risks someone's online safety that was entirely due to him wanting to put someone on the streets which would lead to their death. Hypocrite
As soon as it showed signs of politics, i dipped. Politics has no place in minecraft
As of now the website states that danger zone and orespawn are antiques, and that he is moving on. this guys crashout was crazy tho
Why must everything inevitably become political? I don't give a shit what you believe, as long as no one is physically being harmed by you because of it. Can't we just keep all that in real life?
I do agree with you to some extent. But it does feel kind of egotistical to place yourself above the discussion of politics. It’s valid to be passionate about politics.
@@madeline1714 This may come off like a comeback or defensive, but I didn't say I was above it, I asked why politics must be in everything. I don't like talking politics, mainly online as most people take it way too far, on every side. Not only is it rarely an actual conversation, but it's also inarguable. It's usually a waste of time talking about it and it just becomes depressing over time.
@@tristanfarmer9031 you didn’t directly say you were above it. But making a statement against the general concept of politics is only really possible if you aren’t influenced by it. Which I shouldn’t have to explain is very privileged.
@@madeline1714 I see how you would get that from what I said. I am just a regular dude in the US, just as affected by politics as anyone else. I personally use the internet as an escape, something away from all my problems, which to my knowledge, is very common. It's that bringing real life problems onto the internet I have a problem with. I understand that sounds selfish, and it is, but I think it's reasonable enough to understand. I'm not here to vent about my problems to attempt to disprove how privileged I am, as I definitely don't have it as bad as some may, and I'm very grateful for it. If I was born at any other time, I'd be dead. I recommend using a different word when talking to a stranger on the internet you know little about. Other than that though, you're not wrong.
@@tristanfarmer9031 wow, surprisingly reasonable response. Choosing to disengage from the discussion without disregarding it completely. It’s surprisingly rare to see someone handle something like that so maturely. Props to you /gen
4:03
Minecraft Marketplace: "Am I a joke to you?"
10:17 i looked away for a second and actually jumped
It is too common for mod author to act like that, in Skyrim community is difficult to find a modder normal person. I think this fame just went up peoples head
Babe wake up caleb just uploaded 🗣️
my only dream is to see this mod ported to 1.20.2. my childhood was made by seeing the mob battles of PopularMMOs
orespawn is still on curseforge and i downloaded it like a week ago for version 1.16.5 or 1.20.1 i dont remember well
I'm pretty sure that's a different OreSpawn, which just spawns ores (as its name says) instead of adding many different stuff. That mod's creator makes it very clear in its description.
@@cst1229 it was wtitten like this ''the new version of the famous mod orespawn'' i clicked on it and it showed me the same thing i saw 8 years ago,but idk if im halucinating or it was just a dream or its real lmao im confused now
@@cst1229 gotta check that out
@@curkametrika2991 probably talking about 'chaos awakens' which is a recreation of orespawn
@@omegamad u might be actually right
4:03 in fact the exact opposite has been proven. The reason minecraft added the spyglass item was because they tried to buy optifine (partially to use the zoom feature) and the optifine cretors refused the deal.
seems interesting! thumbs up!
I think the only thing that was really a mod before was added to the main game was horses.
YAY NEW VIDEO
I miss orespawn its such a good and well thought out mod completely changed vanilla minecraft
plain and simple. dont involve politics in games. this goes for all sides just dont, some of us play games to avoid the world created by caring too much about politics.
Wait, what about Wolfenstein? Or COD World at War? Or Deus Ex?
@@codexstudios games that are designed to involve them are fine. but i dont want to see "vote biden" or "vote trump" in splatoon
@@gametugboat3985exactly, unless the story the game is trying to tell has political elements, just let people have fun