How Orespawn's Mod Creator Went Insane
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2024
- At one point, Orespawn was one of Minecraft's most popular mods. However, behind the scenes lies a long history of greed, deception, and even doxxing.
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Microsoft "owning" the mod just means you cant SELL it....which is normal for all minecraft mods.....
Mans killed his braincells by eating too much aluminum foil
LMAO
actually incorrect. microsoft owning a mod means they can make a trailer for "modded minecraft" that uses your mod without your permission or knowledge.
and its also wrong to say that microsoft (or any company) owns the mods made for the game, in much the same way it would be wrong to say epic owns all games made with unreal.
if microsoft owned every mod for minecraft automatically just by it being a mod for minecraft, then the argument could be made that any random tool maker owns everything made with their tool. you hammer a nail in to your new handmade chair, and the maker of that hammer can claim they own the chair.
this is something I would recommend watching louis rossmann to learn more about.
Nah, they actually own mods you create for their game, it's written plain as day. Whether or not they act on it is another thing, but they do write in the fine print that your work for things like mods and etc is property of Microsoft. It's not tinfoil hat shit to not want to spend time creating something that you are legally not in control of at all. I understand both sides of the argument, but this dude went off the deep end lmfao
@@AzalofForossa there is precisely ZERO chance that is legally enforcable anywhere, so no.
This mod was apparently the sole reason I got into modding way before I started modding
ah yes. a 60+ year old guy who adds girlfriends in minecraft. Totally not weird
😂😂
totally.
@@CalebIsSalty yeds
Nah i saw it as funny / memes / just taking the piss
lol
tbh its not illegal to make your own mod and say its a spiritual successor to orespawn, especially if you use your own textures because he never trademarked anything on top of the fact that its literally just a minecraft mod. I can't wait for someone to remake the mod and spit in his face when he throws a fit like every time before
U seem like a nice person 😂
@@sharpsrain8302 tbh just hearing how much of a baby the guy that made orespawn is i did get a lil mad lol. that kind of behavior gets on my nerves like nothing else haha
@@sharpsrain8302 He don't seem like a nice person himself, makes sense no one would want to be nice to him either. Danger, that is
Someone is actually remaking the mod, called Chaos awakens or something like that
Hi, I am that person who did just this, it's called AdventureKraft
things went from
a slight red flag which might just been for humor
to HOLY SHIT HES GONE INSANE WHAT DRUGS DID HE TAKE WHO IS THIS PERSON
real fast
Really was wishing it was ironic humour. Just thinking of the lost potential the orespawn community could've been bums me out.
@@Observer-O
To be bluntly honest, great art doesn't always come from great people.
I enjoyed Lovecraft's work in spite of his "shortcomings," but I admittedly never truly enjoyed Orespawn... and knowing what kind of gonk its creator is me kinda glad it's gone forever, too.
'Things went from 0 to 100 real freakin' quick.'
THARN GOVERMENT IS TRYING TO SCAN YOUR TOENAILS FOR LOOT!!!
Every qanon supporter ever be like
when a man rants to a fake block man about the gays, you know he's lost it.
I've never seen a guy go so coocoo before
who thought that a 60 year old man(who seems like to wear aluminum foil before he sleeps)would be responsible for such a massive old mod. 💀
Frrr
Yeah, i was expecting some one younger
I guess boomers can still shape childhoods
Thats likely the lead poisoning talking ... or doing things.
Ok, I did a little research on the controversy, and here is a little more context. Regarding the whole EULA thing, what happened was that when danger was originally going to update orespawn to 1.8, he wanted to monitize the mod and make it so there were multiple "versions" like a regular mod version and a Premium mod version that had features like Mobzilla and other bosses/items behind a PAYWALL. The "problem" that danger was so pissed about was that the Microsoft EULA prevents people from selling/monetizing a mod/mods they make for minecraft. Though if he really needed money, he could have just made merchandise OF the mod like T-shirts, ect., and that would have been perfectly fine. Then he moved orespawn over to his third-party minecraft game danger zone where it would sit for years. When the popularity spike hit minecraft in 2019, with tons of people asking him to update orespawn, he finally caved and said he would work to update the mod to 1.12. The reason danger gave for the go-fund-me was to help pay modders that would assist him with updating the mod as orespawn is a really big mod. Well, it turns out that the money from the go-fund-me was used to try and MAKE a VR PORT OF DANGER ZONE INSTEAD OF PAYING MODDERS to help update ORESPAWN. Because of this and one of the modders leaking a prototype build of the orespawn update, the modders and danger stared to conflicting with each other on discord, and the whole discord fiasco happened. Afterward, all the modders who helped with orespawn left. This is probably what pushed danger over the edge as ANYONE who tried to make a mod that replicated orespawn or a mod that was just INSPIRED BY ORESPAWN was given heavy harassment by danger as he would try to force them to take-down their mods, a prime example being insanity craft. He would send them cease and desists in the mail and threaten legal actions and lawsuits over "stolen" assets that he did not own in the first place. Comment contined in replies 👇
It's not continued in the replies
@firepawthecat808 huh, what the hell happened to it? Anyway, what the comment did say was that one of the devs that danger had working on the 1.12 port of orespawn when he left, took all the models and progress he made, and turned it into a orespawn successor called CHAOS AWAKENS. It's mc version is for 1.16, and he is currently remaking all the stuff that was in orespawn with updated textures and models.
I find this all the more ironic because OreSpawn had stolen an asset before.
The TLDR about it was that they had taken the Praetorian Model from the Alien vs Predator mod, modified it slightly, and used it as a model for the Nightmare.
It wasn't until the modeler of the mod got really pissed off that Danger backed off.
i am not reading allat
@@perdo4571 its one paragraph.
While a much smaller bit of drama, there was a time when Danger (or whoever was working for him) threatened to sue MCArchive for both hosting old builds of the mod and having source code for the private developer build that was leaked on their own server. Nothing ever came of it, but it is something you wouldn't really believe unless you were there.
MCArchive still hosts OreSpawn for anyone who wants it. And many other old mods that are awesome!
Good to know
Not to mention one of the old orespawn moderators on discord went after the more creeps and weirdos rebirth mod and tried to get it cancelled and harassed the devs, then got it banned from curseforge until the original creator of the mod stepped in and let them know he's okay with the fan remake of the mod.
Ooo thank you! I've been trying to look for something like that for like a year 😅
@@sparquinn yeah, this part of the drama got swept under the rug very quickly.
a 60 y/o is telling me that we are yappin nahh💀🙏🏽
Surprised he didn't get "OK Boomer"ed off the face of the internet.
why do you speak like a retard.
“Went insane”
*was not well from the very beginning*
it's a funny thought of someone getting nostalgic for an old minecraft mod and look it up only to be immediately met with an insane mans ramblings about vaccinations
stay mad lol
I loved this mod when I was younger, im still suffering from the whiplash of finding out about this burning train wreck crashing through hell
@BlackghostLT ssundees LP of orespawn was legendary, I loved it so much. I hope if a remake is made I'm the Future they capture a lot of the magic it had
@@atomiste4312change the note in your name to the poop emoji, cuz your tracks are all ass
@@atomiste4312 does he sound mad to you?
I have known about this mod for ages but I never knew what happened behind the scenes. Great video, keep it up!
3:58 I'm fairly certain there are at least some instances of somewhat popular Minecraft mods being copied/plagiarized by certain Minecraft marketplace developers to sell for their own profit. Kinda sucks, and Microsoft making the whole microtransactions marketplace in the first place has been the catalyst for stuff like this happening, but i dont think its entirely Microsoft's fault, unless they dont crack down on exact plagurism of the mods...
It is their fault. They have the resources to prevent these things.
Someone ended up plagiarizing the Aether on the marketplace. The creator of the original mod also works for Mojang and he couldn't actually get it taken down.
@@atablevendetta1429They can't, mojang/Microsoft make it really hard to take stuff off the marketplace.
@@sandwichqueen yeah, well that sucks...
@@sandwichqueenserves him right for not putting it on marketplace himself first, especially with how well known the Aether is (even console players have heard of and want the official Aether) and the fact that he's been working for Mojang since 2020 🤷♂️
9:18 LBGDQs 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
i love lesbian bisexual games done quick
Gamers are truly the most oppressed minority😢
Pretty sure you can call em wokists.
@@jackspedicy2711no that just sounds like someone who likes woks
@@illford6921 we need some name for the people who are LGBTQ without it sounding so... horroble. i guess they could be called "the gays" but i don't think they themselfs would accept only one sexuality being the word for all of em
This is like the TempleOS of minecraft. Crazy, conspiratorial guy with an abrasive personality but clearly a lot of programming knowledge.
Tbh coding in Java for too long would drive anyone insane
Thankfully it’s not too hard to get your hands on the most up to date version of the 1.7.10 version of the mod (the last version the mod was in before it was being ported to 1.12.2 which I would not recommend you use)
And even though one of the dimensions still runs at like 2.5 frames per second…I still enjoy using this mod to this day and it still hurts seeing how it met its downfall.
I manually removed the girlfriends. It's the perfect mod now.
Haha I will make orespawn 2
@@NaraSherko you will?
@@winkystinky Yea
@@NaraSherko will it be better?
@@winkystinky Yea it will be in modrinth and new textures and no girlfriends
God orespawn was my childhood it's just such a shame with what happened f*** you danger and thank you for chaos awakens team for creating orespawn for modern minecraft
i think bro fell down the alt-right pipeline 💀
Still better than being a leftist
@@SMCwasTaken being too radical on either side is bad. I think, consensus is possible.
Literally all artists and philosophers do this after a while✨✨
Microsoft did what the "bigot nazies" predicted: they added censorship, cashgrab servers, and increased the performance requirements.
@@SMCwasTaken Being alt ANYTHING is worse than being on either side. Extremists are insufferable
Centrist gang rise up
4:02 maybe someone commented this already, but didn't pistons originally come from a minecraft mod and mojang added it to vanilla? But this was WAAAAAY back
They stole horses from a mod 🤷♂️
@@andrewlodge8065 The guy who made it is also in the credits and they worked with him to make it
@@andrewlodge8065No lmao? They literally got Dr Zark in to help make the horses
polar bears, dolphins and smooth lighting feature was taken from mods
Eyyo, user who made the google document you sourced information from here. You did good, thank you for spreading the word 👍
oh no way!! can't believe i missed this comment haha. yes thank you so much, your document was a HUGE help especially with all of the info about the discord drama 🙏
I've literally been reloading youtube for the past 5 minutes for content. Thank you for posting I can finish dinner now
You're cooked
addiction
your cooked
Naw dawg you are COOKED cooked
cooked
these videos are just absolutely nuts
Your clearly not used to getting 5 likes, as a comment channel
ur channel is unbelievably dead wow
I found this 2-3 years ago, having known about the mod for 8-9 years due to old popularmmos videos. I posted a thread about it on the hypixel forums hoping someone may notice this and decide to make a video on it. Thank you for making this video
Something else, the mods been like this for ages, ever since sometime when the pandemic first started. Its really unfortunate
i have the feeling when danger kicks the bucket there are going to be ports of orespawn everywhere xD
1. Damn this realy shows some of the corruptedness of the older minecraft community, no wonder it declined in popularity (before its 2019-2020 revival) when some of the old modders were doing things like adding girlfriends who could be "shut up" with diamonds to the game💀
2. Js wanna say that I really like the style of this video and these kinds of documentaries are the type of things I would want to watch on netflix. I remember a few years ago you had commented on one of my videos, and Its been amazing to see you grow from that time into what you are now. Although Ive been kinda slacking and haventn uploaded much, seeing your journey is an inspiration to me to start releasing more content. Thanks for being such a great channel and know I will be watching with joy to see you grow further!
9:06 imagine being this npc that exists solely to get praised and adored by your creator. it's like a god that shuns what it deems heresy only to return to what it knows best
If anyone is worried, there’s an archive of Orespawn versions by an Ex-Dev
If I had a nickel for every time a mentally unstable programmer became an online micro celebrity/rabbit hole I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
No doubt way more than twice if ya look
There were no red flags whatsoever! How could anyone have seen this coming?!
Seemed perfectly legit to me!
@@witheredsea It just happened out of nowhere!!
truly an unfathomable outcome
Tbh, when the dude called Microsoft "the devil", my immediate thought was "That's fair."
Can you try the zetacraft mod? It adds a new dimension, tons of mobs, mini bosses and weapons, even some stuff from movies and anime and a giant robot you can pilot and has some devastating weapons. It's the most unknown mod.
Microsoft owning the mod is blatantly simple. They dont want to get sued if someone made a mod similar to a future update they were planning.
What a shame. I remember playing the mod years ago and loving it for it's insanity, I was legitmately surprised to know who was behind it.
The Microsoft being the devil statement is super relateable though
I like how this video didn't even mention that Chaos Awakens is an OreSpawn port and I don't remember it getting taken down.
Not quite it adds its own content in addition to slow releases of recoded content based from the oraspawn mod.
@@darth3911 Ah yes, slightly retextured and the same essential moveset for bosses. Just different enough to not be caught by the teacher. Dude, come on, it was only a few weeks ago the image for the mod was it's version of King. It might as well be the port for newer versions.
@@pained.anomaly Ports directly copy and paste the code and only fix potential bugs when updating.
Thats why Chaos Awakens is not a port.
You forgot to mention how he at one point added Russian "president" Vladimir Putin and the top Russian military General (Who as of now is fired) to his game.
He also talked them up like they were the savors of mankind, it's on his youtube channel I bet.
Наш слон???????
Honestly I’m glad that Orespawn has a remake/successor. Chaos awakens is the name. It has the bosses, the dimensions, the weapons and armor, and the feel of orespawn. Though the textures are redone.
Me when i saw the popularmmos videos appear at 2:05:man...now i wanna watch popularmmos again
Just wanted to let everyone know that an updated version of orespawn IS in the works as well as the old version still being playable! They have a server called chaos awakens that aims to recreate the mod as well as their own spin on it. Its currently not finished so some features are missing, but its worth taking a look into as its animations/textures are really refreshing and they are really in touch with their community. You should be able to find the link to it in cursedforge where you can download the newer mod.
i remember seeing you in a small minecraft content creation group when you were around 3-4k. so proud of you for 90k man
every so often i come back here and i keep getting surprised at the great editing and growth youve had
keep it up!
"If you're still unvaxxed fight for your life"
yeah it's gonna be pretty hard when YOU ARE UNVAXXED LMAO
The horses and pistons were originally mods.
The hopper too
DrZhark helped with implementing horses though, and I’m like 75% sure same with whoever made the Pistons.
Ender Chest was as well, but honestly it was such a popular idea (and I’m pretty sure there were like a dozen ender chest mods) that it was bound to be implemented in some form
Im pretty sure both of these mod creators had their names inserted on credits and maybe one or two got hired by mojang... im not 100% sure though
@@MakianTheWorld they were but none of this really matters cause the guy was originally going insane for Microsoft and his mod owner ship or whatever, and ALOT of this stuff was before microsoft.
@@MakianTheWorld yeah im pretty sure its the glowstone portal mod. I have no clue what its really called
One of these servers was called the "White knights of orespawn" and it was interesting seeing all the drama and arguments against the owner and Katara getting spread around by mods and such while I was there.
Is it still up?
The gooogle docs sources pages was never updated :(
Why is "katara" a banned word in his discord 💀
0:37 Respect for the asap rocky instrumental here 😂
u the goat bro
Absolutally love this video, orespawn has been my favorite mod for over a decade now and I love to see people still covering it. Very sad what has happened but nothing we can do about it.
Do you still have an old version of it?
Honestly, I had the feeling of unease when playing Orespawn, I always found it kinda ugly and I mostly played it as I was a fan of the youtuber duo in AlanticCraft back when it was Joebuz and CodyMaverick, as I honestly was more there awaiting for them to reupdate their Divine RPG mod pack as that mod was one I loved a lot more before it just disappeared. back in the 1.6.4 days, maybe early 1.7.10 but unlike Orespawn I never hear anyone talking about whatever happened to it.
does anyone still have a download link to the mod?
I remember playing with the mod after watching PopularMMos videos good times
OreSpawn is one of those mods that I call "made for youtube". They are typically conglomerates of features that are in no way consistent or have anything in common, just a potluck of whatever "fun" ideas dev had in the moment. I put "fun" in quotes because while such nothing-soups are fun to showcase in a 10-15 mins videos, they are extremely boring to actually play with. Like, ok, you have those 20+ "new" armors (that are just palette-swapped vanilla). What do you need them for, exactly? If they are better than diamond \ netherite - they will make you OP and the game boring, if they aren't better - you won't bother crafting\enchanting them. Same goes for mobs - if they don't feel like they belong in the world of minecraft, you'll fight them once to record a cool vid and forget about them, etc.
There are reasons people miss Thaumcraft so much. That was one hell of a mod, with it's own story, rich and engaging mechanics, the joy of discovering new things and well, occasionally blowing your base up. OreSpawn won't be missed by anyone because there's literally nothing special about it.
Can anyone tell me the song used at 5:30 onwards ?
There are several vanilla MC features over the years that have been part of mods or at least directly inspired from them.
Bruh, it's on Planet Minecraft when I went to have a look 💀
You are definitely wrong about them not profiting off mod content, some of the stuff they added to recent updates were mods back when i started.
Bruh I wish the mod was updated or resurrected by a trusted team I love this mod
I couldn't wait to get a good pc, install minecraft and experiance this mod for myself.
Guess I'll sadly never be able to do that.
So you can't download it anymore?
4:03
Minecraft Marketplace: "Am I a joke to you?"
plain and simple. dont involve politics in games. this goes for all sides just dont, some of us play games to avoid the world created by caring too much about politics.
Wait, what about Wolfenstein? Or COD World at War? Or Deus Ex?
@@codexstudios games that are designed to involve them are fine. but i dont want to see "vote biden" or "vote trump" in splatoon
1:03 all that comes to mind is Dan saying “here’s the bread you wanted now to make me a sandwich”
3:52 That's talking about direct coremods that change the actual minecraft.jar
Mods using mod loaders are still in the green, you still own that. You aren't distributing a version of the game, you're distributing instructions on how to make a different version of the game
This is how revanced and pokemon rom hacks exist. They use "patches" which are essentially the same thing but less sophisticated as there's not much way for inter"patch" communication so you can't mix and match
out of all examples you picked the hack rom community that shares the roms most of the time
@@-rlmn do you want the undertale community
not defending the dude at all but minecraft bedrock's store has sold "addons" for profit that are based off free mods such as "Create". maybe its sanctioned by create devs but i dont know
I think the only thing that was really a mod before was added to the main game was horses.
Damn Caleb 3k in 2 weeks, love the content ❤
anyone know where this mod can be downloaded, or does anyone else have this mod if not? please someone share this mod
Try MCArchive perhaps
Creator with 2 videos on the topic that goes more in depth about what happened and the entire timeline of orespawn by the name of Straunge
www.youtube.com/@StraungeYT
this makes me want to learn to code just to port this mod to newer versions
the nostalgia is wild
this is beyond unrelated to the overall video, but whats the song that starts at 0:32 ?
I think it’s a clams casino song not sure which
4:02 idk if it counts but horses where a mod then where added to Minecraft. i might be wrong
I love your videos, its fascinating to see a story be portrayed like a documentary(Heck even better then ones). Also if you can, pls try to make a video editing tutorial
i never uninstalled crazy craft when it was popular and i still have the mod.
hope i dont get doxxed lol
i agree with hmicrosoft being the devil yeah
Orespawn was the first ever mod I downloaded for minecraft
Does anyone know how to get the mod now?
I mean while they can’t just STEAL your mod under the EULA, they did try. One time, Minecraft Marketplace had its own version of the Aether mod that was made without the original creator’s permission and I believe did almost get into legal territory before they did change the name to Ether.
You can still download crazycraft anyway right?
When I saw the discord logo I audibly said oh no
if anyone needs the og orespawn file i still have it lmk
If MS owns the mod as per EULA, what right does Danger have to take it down from archives?
does anyone know where i can download it now
Don’t recommend it as the original is so outdated that it runs poorly.
Additionally you’d be stuck on versions before the aquatic update and would need like 30+ mods to add the base game features or alternatives to the game.
Better option is to play ports or slow recode releases of the mod.
Chaos Awakens is currently the best option. It lacks many of the original mods features but adds some of their own features.
Its devs plan on continuing to update the mod and adding new content to it along with og oraspawn content.
@CalebisSalty remember me?
I cant believe how far youve come caleb! Idk if you remember me but my name was mikecrafts and i quit making videos too😅
3:57 they did, horses, but i think the creator of that mod was fine with it anyways
its a shame we never got a mod like it.
Okay. Let's make the mod again and when he finds out let's make it just different enough the cease and desist doesn't work and he has an aneurysm or something. He's a raisin drying out in the sun
no, he was right. on bedrock theres so many stolen mobs behind a paywall
you're not gonna mention chaos awakens?
This guy having less than 100k subs is criminal
Wait aint gonna lie that looks like crazy craft
Someone needs to remake legally distinct orespawn.
Little does he know that redstone was originally a mod, then Notch took it and implemented it as part of the game.
That's not true.
Redstone was never a mod tf you mean?
I mean this happens to half the Minecraft RUclipsrs/creators
Glad i founded an updated video saw some stuff i had no idea about.
To be honest excluding the political stuff and doxxing i think he was justified in his reasoning i wouldnt say its greed nessesarily if his community constantly disobeyed his wishes to not copy his mod then i can see my self removing the mod too. Its slightly strange th way he left but still understandable.
3:32 The closest I can think in terms of "Microsoft or Mojang using/stealing modded content" is for when they posted the "Java&Bedrock Edition" trailer (owning Java means you own Bedrock and vice-versa).; In the video, when showcasing Java edition, the first blurb is "Supports user-created skins and mods!" followed by showing the Create mod, a village structure mod (I cannot tell you which, my best guess is Towns&Towers), and then Comforts (the lean-to) in that order.
I'm sure now there's more examples of things where Microsoft/Mojang allow in content on the Marketplace made by people be except that one fake Aether on Bedrock Edition that got past people, despite having no actual approval by the Aether Team or KingBDogz, anything else you'd have to comb through current marketplace content to find which I'll save my wallet the torture of.
Can still buy the Ether 1 and 2 on marketplace, but they're just shitty single world experiences.....
I remember when I found out that they had girlfriends in the game. It was hilariously offensive. I literally thought to myself, “I shall beat the game with the power of weaponized misogyny, and have a horde of women fight this boss, so I don’t have to!” 😂 outside of that part of the mod, Orespawn was decent back in the day.