I love the video, but I would like to offer a quick correction: Hi8 video was not a digital format, as stated by the lower third graphic at 1:10. Hi8 increased the FM carrier frequency to give the luminance channel of Hi8 video 2 MHz of bandwidth, while Video8 enjoyed only 1.2 MHz of bandwidth. The chroma bandwidth was unchanged. The cassettes used by both formats were the same, and all Hi8 equipment could play and record Video8 material. However, a Hi8 recorded tape could not playback on a Video8 player. Later on, some higher-end Hi8 equipment did offer digital PCM sound, though the sampling rate was quite low. Digital 8 was another format that used these same cassettes but did record video digitally using the standard DV codec that was also used on MiniDV tape. Essentially recording the same signal to an 8mm cassette that you would to MiniDV.
I had read (and am happy to be corrected) that Hi8 was a transitional format, and supported digital audi tracks with supported hardware? Unfortunately I was too young at the time to have been into it in any detail!
Hey David, thanks for your video, first of all. I was using mama cam to play old video yesterday and was playing, sometimes one piece come out but I put in place and was working. Today I went to play again a another small white tube come out and is not playing images. Do you know what could it be? thank you. Carlos
@@a531016 I have one I need to try on! It's still attached to the camcorder, so I can also easily buzz out the correct lines. I just need to tidy some space to do it :O
Correction: these small CRT's doesn't exist in color. You need to go up to about 1,5" to get a proper shadow mask CRT. The resolution is absolutely terrible on these as it wasn't possible to make the shadow mask very fine compared to screen size.
This is the exact same model of camcorder my family bought in late 1996. It's fascinating to see it torn apart like this. I still have ours, but it no longer works properly (the tape transport will only run for a few seconds before it suddenly stops and starts beeping repeatedly). Good thing I was able to digitize all of our tapes before it completely went out though.
This camera was my family camera, before the tear down I digitized about 3 hours of family events and holidays from the 1990s. If you need some spare parts, let me know!
If you have one of these could you answer one of my questions? I want to get one of them but is it possible to just connect the usb cable from the camera to my laptop to transfer the videos or is it more complicated than that because of the cassette?
@David Du you try to put the stuff back together after the video or is it straight going to the parts-bin/trash? If you do, can you once make a video about putting stuff back together afterwards?
Genrally I try and put things together again, the Big Track has been a big hit with my son, and the PSP has helped my daily commute lately! I am waiting for a project for the iMac G3, but it is back together. A few things didn't go back together, normally because they were broken when I got them, so the last useful purpose they performed was a video!
Hey guys! I’m wondering if anyone can help me. I just found my old Sony handycam v8 ccd-Fx270. It seems to work fine except for the door. I can push it close but the top part won’t go down. It makes some weird noise like something could be jammed. Is there any video or anything I can do to fix it? Or is there any way that I can watch those old cassette tapes without the camera? Please help...
"Black and white is stored first and colour superimposed on top". On the bottom. All broadcast formats (that i know of) use chroma on top of the luma signal. All tape formats (that i know of) use colour-under encoding, so the colour information is below in the frequency spectrum. Because the top of the frequency range can be flaky on tape and luma degrades more gracefully. The way image transformed from RGB on the sensor to the fundamental video components, luminosity (black and white image), chroma-U and chroma-V (two colour difference signals) is exactly the same between PAL, NTSC and tape formats. However the way U and V are combined into the summary chroma signal is different. Bad video output quality on composite signal is likely just down to engineering or component degradation. 12 hour reassembly livestream when though?
I'm not sure a live stream would work, this is a family friendly chanel and I may not keep my language in check! That's intertesting to know, I think I'd like to compare the quality throught a full size video 8 VCR, or something with a component out (if they exist)?
Brilliant video “The Art of Sony”,great equipment
I’ve still got the ccdtrv-21e in perfect working order amongst other Sony products,great timeless styling,and I still use minidiscs,brilliant kit
I love the video, but I would like to offer a quick correction: Hi8 video was not a digital format, as stated by the lower third graphic at 1:10. Hi8 increased the FM carrier frequency to give the luminance channel of Hi8 video 2 MHz of bandwidth, while Video8 enjoyed only 1.2 MHz of bandwidth. The chroma bandwidth was unchanged. The cassettes used by both formats were the same, and all Hi8 equipment could play and record Video8 material. However, a Hi8 recorded tape could not playback on a Video8 player. Later on, some higher-end Hi8 equipment did offer digital PCM sound, though the sampling rate was quite low.
Digital 8 was another format that used these same cassettes but did record video digitally using the standard DV codec that was also used on MiniDV tape. Essentially recording the same signal to an 8mm cassette that you would to MiniDV.
I had read (and am happy to be corrected) that Hi8 was a transitional format, and supported digital audi tracks with supported hardware? Unfortunately I was too young at the time to have been into it in any detail!
The color temp of your video is way to blue, washes out the whole video 😕
Hey David, thanks for your video, first of all. I was using mama cam to play old video yesterday and was playing, sometimes one piece come out but I put in place and was working. Today I went to play again a another small white tube come out and is not playing images. Do you know what could it be? thank you. Carlos
6:59 how did you remove that first ribbon cable?
Try and get that mini CRT working with a composite signal :D
You sound like you have tried? Did you get it working in the end?
LGR already did it, he played some new games on it a while back
@@a531016 I have one I need to try on! It's still attached to the camcorder, so I can also easily buzz out the correct lines.
I just need to tidy some space to do it :O
@@azyfloof I know the feeling, space is always a big limitation for a good project!
Tried mine with a DVD player and it works
Correction: these small CRT's doesn't exist in color. You need to go up to about 1,5" to get a proper shadow mask CRT. The resolution is absolutely terrible on these as it wasn't possible to make the shadow mask very fine compared to screen size.
That's a shame, but 1.5" could work well for some projects too!
This is the exact same model of camcorder my family bought in late 1996. It's fascinating to see it torn apart like this. I still have ours, but it no longer works properly (the tape transport will only run for a few seconds before it suddenly stops and starts beeping repeatedly). Good thing I was able to digitize all of our tapes before it completely went out though.
This camera was my family camera, before the tear down I digitized about 3 hours of family events and holidays from the 1990s. If you need some spare parts, let me know!
How did u digitize your tapes?
This is really cool, I have one of these and it works! Now I have an over whelming desire to tear it to pieces just to look at it!
It was an interesting one, fair warning though, there are a lot of parts and it takes a lot of patience! I think I was going for a good two hours!
Snap. Although I think mine might be dead.
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If you have one of these could you answer one of my questions? I want to get one of them but is it possible to just connect the usb cable from the camera to my laptop to transfer the videos or is it more complicated than that because of the cassette?
A great piece of high tech history👍🏻
I thought it was fascinating, I'm glad you enjoyed!
I think i missed where the ccd is mentioned
Good video, very well explained. I learned a lot as a self proclaimed novice, lol. Thanks you for your time and effort.
I'm glad you enjoyed!
@David Du you try to put the stuff back together after the video or is it straight going to the parts-bin/trash? If you do, can you once make a video about putting stuff back together afterwards?
Genrally I try and put things together again, the Big Track has been a big hit with my son, and the PSP has helped my daily commute lately! I am waiting for a project for the iMac G3, but it is back together. A few things didn't go back together, normally because they were broken when I got them, so the last useful purpose they performed was a video!
Those 90s electronics are absolute marvels of engineering. Makes today’s stuff look sterile in comparison.
Hey! is there an S Cable output for this Sony CCD-TRV11? Thanks again for this video!
Does any one have a link for this type of battery?
hey guys does this handycam have the night shot?
I can't get my camera to open and eject the tape. Where can I get a battery for it. Sony Handycam Video8 CCD TR94. It gave us some great movies.
Hey, how can I digitize tapes ? Witch cable to use? Thanks for help
Use the Elgato capture card in this video
ruclips.net/video/cyuJZpDo_4w/видео.html
Hey guys! I’m wondering if anyone can help me. I just found my old Sony handycam v8 ccd-Fx270. It seems to work fine except for the door. I can push it close but the top part won’t go down. It makes some weird noise like something could be jammed. Is there any video or anything I can do to fix it? Or is there any way that I can watch those old cassette tapes without the camera? Please help...
"Black and white is stored first and colour superimposed on top".
On the bottom. All broadcast formats (that i know of) use chroma on top of the luma signal. All tape formats (that i know of) use colour-under encoding, so the colour information is below in the frequency spectrum. Because the top of the frequency range can be flaky on tape and luma degrades more gracefully.
The way image transformed from RGB on the sensor to the fundamental video components, luminosity (black and white image), chroma-U and chroma-V (two colour difference signals) is exactly the same between PAL, NTSC and tape formats. However the way U and V are combined into the summary chroma signal is different. Bad video output quality on composite signal is likely just down to engineering or component degradation.
12 hour reassembly livestream when though?
I'm not sure a live stream would work, this is a family friendly chanel and I may not keep my language in check!
That's intertesting to know, I think I'd like to compare the quality throught a full size video 8 VCR, or something with a component out (if they exist)?
lol i got that cam from my granpa xD
Not as good as the CANON MV750i(DV8).
1st!
Ahh man, you beat me!
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