Death Over Dayton | TWA 553 Ohio Mid-Air Collision
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
- This is the story of TWA flight 553, I started this channel because I wanted to shed light on the incidents and accidents that other people over looked because these incidents for whatever reason as I belive that we can learn a lot from the lesser known incidents. A lot of the safety practices that we take for granted come from smaller accidents like the one that we are going to look at today. TWA flight 553 was a flight between Newyork and Chicago with stops at harrisburg, pittsburgh and dayton ohio. TWA opted to operate a DC-9 on this route as the DC9 was just the right size for this job with only 25 passengers being on the leg from pittsburgh to dayton. The jet took off from the Pittsburh at 11:25 am local time the jet climbed out of pittsburgh with no issues whatsoever and after a relatively short cruise it was time for the jet to start its descent into dayton ohio. As all of this was happenintg a beechcraft that was chartered for a business flight was making the trip from detroit to springfield ohio. The beechcraft was flying under VFR or visual flight rules meaning that it was using visual cues on the ground to navigate from point A to point B. the beechcraft was staying pretty quiet on the comms as well. After takeoff the pilot only transmitted that he was on top of the smoke and haze and then left the detroit frequency. He also made a radio call to springfield aviation incorporated asking them for a courtesy car and letting them know that he would be starting his descent shortly. With that he slowly made his way south. As the jet approached the dayton terminal area it was cleared to descend from 20000 feet, its cruising altitude to 5000 feet and the jet was handed off from the indianapolis air route traffic control center to the Dayton Radar Approach Control Center. Dayton RAPCON wanted to the jet to fly a heading of 240 which would take them right to an ILS approach at Dayton. With the jet making great time with its descent the controller further cleared flight 553 all the way down to 3000 feet. As the controller went about his duties he noticed something that he didnt expect. A radar contact near TWA 553, the controller had no idea that there was a beach craft heading south from detroit and so he didnt really know who was in that vicinity and he issued the following warning to the pilots of TWA 553. “TWA 553 Traffic at 12:30 one mile sotuhbound slow moving” the pilots of TWA 553 just responded with roger. The controller the went about his way. On the screen the two blobs got closer and closer over the next 14 seconds and then they merged, the Beechcraft slammed into the DC-9 then left wing of the jet dropped and the bank angle increased until eventually the plane started to dive. There was no hope of saving the plane. The radar returns changed shape ever so slightly, the controller then got on the radio and said Clear of traffic but no reply came from the DC-9, he tried to get a hold of the jet again but still no reply. Eventually the realization hit him flight 553 had been lost it had collided with the mystery plane. On the ground near springfield ohio people heard the noise of the beechcraft and looked up only then they looked away and once they looked back the DC9 was falling from the sky. All 25 souls aboard the DC9 and the one occupant of the Beechcraft were lost thankfully no one on the ground was injured.
While reasearching for this video i found an image of the TWA flight 553 departing from pittsburgh. Its a close up shot of the jet just hours before it would crash and its a hauntin image. Id love to put it up on screen right now but its under copyright. But i would highly suggest that you go look it up after this video ofcourse. When ever you have a mid air collision you have one person who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. To find that out you need to figure out the tracks that both planes were flying at the time they collided. Today thats pretty easy, even you and i can look on flight radar and get a rough idea of where most planes are. But back in 1967 
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When both planes are in the right airspace and on a collision course, you know the safety system needs an update. Great video, ty Mini
I hadn’t heard of this tragic accident - thanks for the story.
Out of interest I was pilot of a 747 that came frighteningly close to a mid-air with a small private jet just slightly East of Santa Catalina island (ie: West of LAX) in the 1990s. As far as I’m aware, they never tracked down the offending aircraft, and it was considered that it was possibly even drug running, (and certainly not on radio).
It was DAMN close, like possibly as little as 50-100’.
I’ll never ever forget it. We still had hearts thumping with adrenaline after landing at LAX.
Was that west of LAX over the ocean? with no transponder on the offender?
@@johnstudd4245 Yes.
God spared your life. Thank you for sharing. I will never forget when that Alaska Airline plunged into the Pacific Ocean near where I lived at the time. For a long time, while riding my bike on a path above the ocean near where the crash happened, I would look out to sea and think about it with horror.
The older accidents really make you appreciate all the tech, procedures and rules that make aviation much safer than back then
It’s amazing how aviation take seriously past accidents to ensure that they don’t have a second accident doing the same thing! They really take safety to the max!
@@christopherchilders1049
But it's too bad the authorities didn't put safety first from the get go.
@@cchris874 i know, it feels like aviation is like "trial and error" in its development, what's working and what is not... i just found out, sr-71 had this nitrogen pump to prevent oxygen filled fuel tank and mixed with highly flammable fuel.. it's 1960's design, as old as b747, but yet, it wasn't deployed until twa flight 800 in 1996..
All the rules we have now are written in blood from past mistakes. Every time you read a sign or warning, it was written in blood
My cousin was killed in San Diego (Brown Field) mid air collision crash in 2015. A Cessna was doing touch and go landings while my cousins plane was approaching the airport. The controller was overworked at the time and lost track of the planes. Everyone in both planes died. It would be a good story to study and share on your channel.
Damn, I'm so sorry.
@@skullsaintdead
Thanks it was a sad day for all the families involved.
Sorry for your loss. That's frightening.
I remember that incident. I am so very sorry for your loss. May you find peace in your healing journey.
bruh
*_"Safety regulations are written in blood"_*
Man, when you think about it, that is so true!
Until the safety regulations become the source of the blood.
Like Union rules that prevent automation that could prevent these catastrophes.
It would be really nice to know what happened to that 737 cockpit when it blew out recently, but union rules care more about pilot privacy than customer safety.
I don't know why a pilot needs privacy, security yes, privacy no. Greyhound bus drivers don't get privacy. Just because you're by yourself doesn't mean you're entitled to privacy.
@@jtjames79 Union rules are not safety rules, so I'm not sure why you got so triggered off of a rather flowery but essentially true statement that never even mentioned unions at all.
What "737 cockpit blowout" are you talking about? Do you mean that All Nippon flight where there was a crack in the cockpit windshield? Because that would be a maintenance issue, not anything the pilots did. (Unless you think maybe the pilot punched the window hard enough to crack it?)
Pilots are recorded by cockpit voice recorders. In the event of an accident, those recordings are saved by the NTSB and can be released via FOI request, so your ramblings about "pilots don't need privacy" also make no sense.
2024, Francis Scott Key bridge, hey, let's use tug boats in ports that have bridges, ah, good idea, why didn't we think of that before?
depends whos writing them. haha
Another ink sometimes used is a mixture of sweat and _the haunting visage of a near miss_
I was a pilot during that time period and can remember that crash; I was fly in that area nearly every day. At that time there was always a thick haze layer which would mean that you could only see about 2 miles at times. This haze layer often extended well above 6,000 feet. If the airline pilot was looking straight at the other aircraft it would be hard to see it. I had many near misses because of this haze layer.
Thanks for the background information.
I don't remember this midair collision either. But it resembles the one that happened near Fairland Indiana on 9/9/69 an Allegheny Airlines flight 853 was hit by a single engine airplane that was banking and hit the tail section of the airliner and both crashed killing everyone. The single engine crashed in my brother's field and the airliner crashed in my uncle's field and he actually heard them collide and watched them both go to the ground.
Haze layer=smog. Pollutants (usually NOx and soot) combining with ozone..
I know everybody bleats about the EPA, but it was the EPA that forced car makers to 'clean up their act', which means those 'hazes' of the 70's are a thing of the past.
@@Chris-hx3omgood point. Although in the U.K. they took the lead out of petrol and replaced it with benzene (which is carcinogenic).
Many near misses? That sounds scary. Was this in a big commercial jet, or a small private plane?
Last words on this tape. “Ready on the checklist, Capt’n.” This was the final midair of a series in the ‘50 and ‘60s that finally mandated the 250 kts restriction below at or below 10k, by that December. Nice vid!
"Subscribe" on the fuselage of the Baron. Great stuff! 😂
And in small print: "If U cn rd ths I M 2 close".
It is the small details that show how much effort folks put into their passion. Hats off to Mini Air Crash Investigation. :)
There was a similar but much worse crash in September 1969 near Indianapolis, it involved a bigger DC-9-32. A total of 83 people died, 82 in the DC-9 died and 1 person died in the Piper Cherokee that hit the DC-9. I grew up not far from where it crashed. It was Allegheny Flight 853 from Cincinnati to Indianapolis. Allegheny later became USAIR.
Due to the severity of that crash and the weather many of the victims are buried where The Airliner hit the ground. That landscape was absolutely horrific
I wonder if the flight simulator thinks MACI is just a really bad pilot since half of his flights end rather badly
I’m a bad pilot regardless.
Hi there.
Thanks for making these video. I believe the majority of the accidents you've mentioned would be forgotten if not for you 👍
Not really. Aviation safety greatly benefits greatly from accident analysis followed by action to prevent repeat accidents.
@@allancopland1768 the general public, not the industry itself. I believe all of the lessons from those tragedies are well-remembered, well-used to improve the safety of aviation, and will always be metioned when fit.
@@NoName-sb9tpcan’t agree more. As somebody who has no links to aviation (apart from my dad flying sea planes through the end of World War Two, unfortunately he passed away when I was 17 so I never truly got to talk about that early aviation with him sadly) these ‘small’ accidents that don’t end up as major accident documentaries would be forgotten but most people who have traveled by air will have had their safety ensured and their lives saved by these accidents almost lost to history.
A wise man learns from his mistakes but a wiser man learns from others.
"Beefcraft." That's the name of my next metal band!
"They're made out of meat."
"What?"
"We're positive. We took several of them aboard our recon vessels and probed them, all the way through. They are _completely meat_ "
"Impossible. What about the radio signals?"
"They use radio signals to talk. The meat can even sing, by squirting air through slapping and flapping meat. 'Metal' refers to the genre, not the composition of the band."
"Oh my god. _Beefcraft_ They're made out of meat."
-Just type They're Made Out Of Meat into RUclips. Beefcraft is a pretty fantastic band name, btw.
This is fascinating, because I actually lived in that area in March 1967 and don't remember this accident at all. Of course, I was eight years old at the time, but still... My father is a pilot, and kept our Bonanza at the Springfield airport. Very interesting case.
I LOVE the reg on the twin ! I already have... Your channel is just what the world always lacked. A well researched explanation of what happened. Great work. Thanks.
I was a young Trooper in the Ohio State Highway Patrol stationed at The Springfield Patrol Post and was on the scent of this crash.
Thank you for covering this. TWA Flight 553 was one of the first air crashes I read about when I became interested in aviation crashes in the early 1970s. Your video puts a fresh perspective on this accident from what I remember reading 50 years ago. As you state, it is important that incidents like these are not lost to the forgotten pages of history.
imagine suffering through three stops just to get from New York to Chicago
An aviation geek's paradise.
Always great to open up the app and a brand new episode is right there waiting
ur going great been watchin u since a month, keep ur great work up!
Great video! I really like finding out about a new mishap as this is becoming quite rare since I started devouring all things aviation.
Check out the mid air between a Hawker 800 and a glider over Minden Nevada. Hawker was N879QS. I was the dispatcher.
The guy in the glider had rented it. He was from Japan. After the collision he just bailed out and parachuted to the ground and just walked away. The glider had a transponder but wasn't turned on. I think the hawker lost an engine and landed gear up. Also had part of the glider was still stuck in her aircraft.
I had a close call with a UPS jet while I was doing my training. Planes move fast and your ground intuition for speed doesn’t work. I saw a small spot approaching perpendicular. I pointed to alert my instructor and only managed to say, “Uhh…” My instructor said, “Sh*t!” and pushed our plane down. It seemed less than a second from when I saw a tiny spot before the jet was right in front of us. The jet passed close enough I could see the pilot. He didn’t seem to notice us. Afterwards we double checked and we were definitely in Golf airspace. We were flying from Palo Alto to San Carlos, which is a short hop. Good visibility. We flew this often. We couldn’t have been out of our airspace. We were close to SJC. The jet might have been coming from there or maybe OAK. I don’t understand why the jet was so low.
He must've been dropping off a package to a nearby house
Thanks for sharing that btw, that is good information, lots of times I'm head down in instruments, charts, or whatever and go awhile without looking around, this is a great example of why we should be extra vigilant
Wow! I’ve never heard of this one and I’m an aviation accident geek!
Wonderful video as usual! Thanks☺️
This is exactly the sort of content I subscribe for.
Love this channel!
Great job on video
Thank you for this. So sad. I was born in Dayton, so this story was of particular interest to me.
2 of my associates where I work were on that flight. They were scheduled for a later flight but took that flight to get home earlier. The accident happened not far from where I live. A friend of mine a farmer was the first to arrive on the scene.
Excellent video with great details. I really appreciate the heat shimmer behind the engines on TWA 553 and "subscribe" on the Beechcraft fuselage.
It's even worse when the same sort of accident has to happen twice to have effective changes made.
My birthday is march 9 and I used to live in Dayton Ohio. The birthplace of aviation, although I wasn’t born there. Never knew about this one
Was wondering if you could cover 2 crashes in nearby Cincinnati,Ohio in the 1960’s. Both were fatal crashes into same hillside on approach to Greater Cincinnati Airport.I believe First accident was in 1965 and second one in 1967. One was a B-727 and one a Convair 880.
Also worth mentioning, TWA had three fatal events in 1967, all in Ohio.
@@cchris874 TWA flight 128 was one in Cincinnati ( Convair 880 hit hillside on approach)
Even with modern regulations, there are some planes who are not required to have transponders, or radios to announce their intentions. Meaning mid airs like this are possible at
No, in that type of airspace and at that altitude, all aircraft must have transponders, and now also ADS-B
@@PRH123 Are you sure about that? That feels wrong. Below FL180 it is most class E airspace, which does not have any transponder or radio requirements. Class A (FL180 and above) does require you to be on an IFR flight plan, which does require those things. So that's why I'm wondering if it's still possible because of this weird middle area. Class E does not have any equipment requirements.
@@thepenmen22 See FAR 91.215(b) and 91.225(d). With some exceptions, a mode C transponder and ADS-B out are required in class A, B, and C airspace, within the lateral boundaries of class B and C up to 10,000 ft, within 30 nautical miles of a class B airport, or in class E above 10,000 ft except 2,500 AGL and below.
@@marek2982 thanks :)
@@marek2982 Thanks, that is exactly what I was trying to find! I am assuming jets are generally not getting cleared below 10,000 far from the airport, so that answered my question earlier.
The surveillance technology we use in aviation today to track aircraft is not GPS. GPS is used for navigation. There are some exceptions, but MOST aircraft must be equipped with ADS-B (automatic dependent surveillance broadcast). This technology broadcasts identity and altitude data. Controllers can see it along with any other aircraft that are equipped with ADS-B IN. My plane has this equipment, so I get visual and audio warnings about traffic. "TRAFFIC! 10 o'clock! Low! Two miles!"
Gotta say though, even though the technology tells me where to look for traffic, it can be very difficult to see another plane if they are in level flight. I will deviate course if we are are at same altitude.
Do the two transponders talk to either to determine what evasive maneuvers to recommend? Or do they instead have built in rules to work it out based on their relative positions?
@@SashazurNo, transponders just broadcast location. There's another system onboard larger aircraft called TCAS that gives alerts and emergency recommendations.
@@SashazurIn general aviation no, the transponders don't talk to each other. But I have a screen in front of me that provides a location & altitude relative to my own, plus a representation of their heading. That system gets the data from ground and satellite based transmitters. So it is pretty easy to maintain separation. There are also general rules regarding right of way, and appropriate cruising altitudes that assist in separation. There are other layers of safety available as well. ATC can provide traffic advisory services for pilots operating under VFR (visual flight rules) or, if we file an IFR (instrument) flight plan, we can rely on ATC to maintain separation. The big jets always operate on an IFR plan. And they have TCAS (collision avoidance) systems layered on top of all of the above.
Wow, I didn't realise the reasons 'against' installing transponders in every airplane & having better radar coverage was essentially "but it'd cost a lot of money". Sure, its to be expected, people push the limits & prioritise short-term goals over long-term investments, but to see it written in the report, clear as day, is rather chilling.
Some planes have no way to install a transponder or any other electronics.
@@SoloPilot6 Perhaps (I honestly don't know enough about it) but surely those planes should be seperated from commercial aviation, put into different sectors etc.
This sadly rings true with many other safety features
@@skullsaintdead Why? It has been so rarely a problem that you didn't even know about it.
I don't want to wright an entire essay here about airspace regulations, but basically speaking there are a bunch of measures that makes sure big jets and light piston singles and twins stay separated. If you fly a plane without a transponder, you are basically relegated to only airspace where the big jets don't fly.
In order to fly in Class E airspace above 10,000 feet MSL, within Class B airspace and/or within 30 nautical miles of the primary Class B airport, or within or overtop Class C airspace, you must have ADS-B out or a Mode C transponder with altitude encoding.
To enter Class B airspace, you need an explicit ATC clearance (N123AB, cleared into the Detroit Class B). To enter Class C or D airspace, you need to establish two-way radio communications with the controlling facility, which means you need to hear your callsign read back ("Dayton Approach, N123AB, 10 miles to the east at 4,500." "N123AB, Dayton Approach, radar contact," etc...). Obviously, if they say "remain clear of the class Charlie," then stay out.
Nice livery on the Beechcraft ;)
If this accident occurred over Urbana Ohio they were well outside of Dayton Class C airspace and a transponder or ADS B or even a radio is not required for aircraft flying under FAR Part 91 to this day in that airspace (Class E above 700’ AGL).
Assuming both aircraft were in visual (VFR) conditions, all three pilots are required to see and avoid…..then and now.
One of the cases that wrote today's aviation rules in blood.
Edit: Should have expected a similar statement in the conclusion of the video.
Too bad Denzel wasn't the captain... If you can't pull, you might as well push! That is some rather sketchy data the NTSB (etc) was stretching for at this date in time.. ADS-B was just starting to be a norm, prior to mandatory when I started my PPL (learners permit - lets be honest)... Nice job with the graphical animation... Nice to have the data to marry it up, but still cool to watch.. Much appreciation for your time putting this out..
I remember flying at 2000 ft near Cleveland when I looked left and saw an airliner flying parallel to me at the same altitude, which startled me.
Perhaps ATC considered that the distance between planes was safe enough.
I just never expected an airliner that low about 15 miles out from the airport.
I flew for the airlines. I’m retired now. I can’t even come close to counting all the RA’s that I had… especially on the weekends, flying into PIT, PHL, EWR, CLT, LGA, HPN, JFK,BOS, and many other class B airports because the “weekend warrior” or part 134 1/2 pilots didn’t have a clue they were breaching controlled airspace.😮😢Had similar situations in ORD, CVG, DTW, ATL… and many airports west of the Mississippi River. My advice? Don’t rely solely on TCAS. Keep
Your eyes open!! If you’re flying VFR, ALWAYS get flight following if possible.
That was just the right amount of detail. You told the story very well. I don’t like midair collisions.,I think of them as extreme negative Karma. Aka very bad luck considering the size of the sky.
Straight out of breaking bad after that guy was distracted due to Janes death. Geez.
I like your subliminal message on the Beechcraft :D
I've graduated railroad engineering back in the days, due to the studies we were introduced to the rule book of railroad safety, they called it"the railroad bible, written in blood".
Did anyone get compensation? Or does that even happen in most accidents?
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In the images used here to demonstrate the accident, there were not images of the collision and the subsequent condition of each plane immediately after they collided. There would be signifiant damage to each plane as each fell to the ground below.
I like the "subscribe" on the side of the Beechcraft. 😉👍
Today, small planes often contact air traffic control at the start of their trip and say, "request flight following". Workload permitting, ATC will give the plane its own transponder code, watch where it is going, and advise when weather or traffic is ahead of it. As the plane gets out of range of the controller's radios, the controller will have the pilot change frequencies to the next ATC center.
Smaller airfields in southeastern Indiana need to learn from this, I've seen way too many incompetent pilots that have 0 awareness and never follow flight paths, shockingly not many issues have happened but the fact its going to happen sooner or later.
I remember that crash!
the TWA jet didnt have the livery you show
Your audio is always really low. Your voice comes through so quiet, even at max volume on my AirPods but other channels are just fine.
There seems to be an issue with the sound, it's very low. At 1:03 you say VFR means "it (the Beechcraft) was using visual cues on the ground to _navigate." Well, not necessarily. VFR is actually a set of federal regulations that govern the meteorological conditions and pilot certification standards under which an aircraft can be operated visually and without reference solely to instruments. Navigation in a light piston twin is going to be accomplished using equipment inside the aircraft, such as VORs and GPS. It's pretty rare that a twin is going to navigate using only visual cues outside.
The TWA DC-9 was just 4 months old with 309 hours on it.
I’m gonna use the TWA MD-80 scenes I’m sorry for no asking I will give credits
was a DC-9 not a MD-80 as you have shown
What should I look up for the picture
Just type "TWA flight 553 crash site image" and you'll find it
I was taught in flight training in VFR scan the horizon from one direction to the other. You were to be vigilant when flying for most of the flight. You usually don't do anything significant when you drive a car, except to pay attention and drive the car. You are saying that maybe both pilots were distracted at the same time. we always assume the one that has the right of way, does not have to be ready to avoid anything. They have the right of way. People run red lights and crash into other people all the time.
CAUSE OF???
Controlled airspace around major airports has been greatly expanded since this time.
My biggest fear when flying has always been some idiot in a cessna getting in the way when we are ascending or descending from cruising altitude.
I was on that flight ✈️💥🤕
A sad accident. I really liked the old MacDac DC-9.
Too much information? You can never have too much information. How it is presented is what really matters.
This is very similar to what happened in SanDiego on Sept24 1978. PSA flt 182 was headed to Lindbergh field when a small plane with a pilot in training got in its way! 144 souls lost their lives when the 737 crashed in a Horrible inferno in a NorthPark neighborhood !
Videos of these early crashes make me think that anyone who flew on an airplane during that low-tech era of the 1960s and 70s was really taking their life of their hands!
Hi Mini Air Crash Investigation could you please cover Divi DIvi flgiht DVR014 it happend on october 22nd 2009 the plane was a britten norman bn2 islander registrated in curacao PJ-SUN
I understand that the flight 553, didn't see the small airplane, but the pilots in the small airplane were not able to see a big airplane, it's just incomprehensible
How the hell wouldn’t at least the commercial plane know they were there? Obviously somebody fk’d up.
Bruh three twa collitions two with united
audio level is extremely low on this video, like shockingly low
set your volume while watching this to whatever is your comfortable listening volume then open up a linus tech tips video and tell me i'm wrong
this was the first video i was recommended of your channel to watch, and i can't even watch it or any on your channel because i have no idea how you can create so much content and fail at literally half of the product
Maybe it’s low when watching from the app, but the audio it’s great when streaming from the app to the tv
@@Emzzz78 how do you know what I'm watching from lol
The audio is objectively low compared to properly set audio levels
I kind of know what I'm talking about a little bit here lol
Twa tuvo otro incidente de collison pero en ves en aire fue el la pista cuando un md-82 operado como el vuelo 427 collisono con un Cessna 441 la causa fue un error del Cessna que por cierto fallecieron el piloto y un empleado de una compañía llamada superior aviatión lo que pasó fue que el Cessna tenía que ir ala pista 31 pero por alguna razón desconocida dicho por la ntsb rodaron a la 30R se formaron hipótesis como fatiga del piloto ansiedad para evitar una tormenta próxima a llegar la ntsb determino que el piloto del Cessna se le formo una una nocion preconcebida para ir a usar la 30R embes que la 31 también que la atis transmitió a los pilotos que la pista 30R como la 30L estaban para uso de salidas y llegadas o sea ( para despejar o para aterrizar) lo que pasaba que la que siempre usaban la 31 se determino como otras causas el piloto del el Cessna 441 se distrajo embes de estar atento a las instrucciones de rodaje también que los controladores aéreos usaron frase no estándares y de no exigir al Cessna del repetir la pista de despegue. Gracias ala acción de los pilotos de 427 de elevar el morro y girar ala izquierda se evito un desastre a un mayor
Oh me dí cuenta que ya leísiste un vídeo entonces te recomiendo al vuelo 46 de austral línea aérea que se estrelló al salirse de la pista en matando a las 21 personas abordo
Dang the skies have such unlimited space...how could this have happened?
Sky is unlimited,but planes is massive
See-and-avoid, not an ideal means for separating passenger aircraft and light aircraft.
One plane has about two people, other plane has over a 100 people on the plane and you don't know which 1's got the right away.?
See and Avoid is important and necessary but it's insufficient in my opinion
I live somewhat near an international airport and I've been outside, seen planes, but they didn't appear at all on Flightradar24. This is most likely to happen at night when there is significantly less traffic since there are other international airports in the area with more flights coming and going there. I have seen many small planes that don't appear and most of them have been flying on the low side compared to other planes so perhaps they were not actually in the controlled airspace. I also saw a couple military jets on one occasion without their transponders. That was odd because they usually have them on around here, but they were also flying pretty low. I've also seen the police helicopter do it at least once. I also live near a trauma 1 medical center and I once saw a medical helicopter that didn't have its transponder on. It was coming from the direction of the hospital so I assume they just forgot to turn it back on when they took off from there.
I've also seen the police helicopter nearly hit several different sorts of planes while they were circling over something and probably looking too much at the ground. I don't know if it was luck, TCAS, or the controller who prevented the crashes but I sure was holding my breath seeing them come so close on Flightradar24.
194mph is a little fast for a b58
the controller was wrong! he should have been giving direct instructons on where it was and how to avoid. he didnt.
Written in blood... train crashes, fires, auto accidents. We only learn the hard way.
The Baron PIC should have employed ‘flight following’. THEN he could have been informed also of the impending target as well. I cringed every time ‘required’ or ‘requirement’ was used in narration. If ya want to lallygag around fine, but ask for radar services for that extra set of eyes AND a com to advise.
I don’t think flight following existed, back then. I began flight training in 1968. We filed a vfr flight plan with FSS, then activated it with tower or departure control. Back then, radar wasn’t as good, so all traffic was not pointed out. Later with an instrument rating, filing IFR got you much better service from ATC.
FAA: We can add capabilities to your radar to ensure the safety of planes in your control area. ATC: No that's OK, if we can't see it then it never happened.
Why is that every ship is required to have a lookout? Whether you are big oil tanker, 30 foot Sloop, or a local small boat. But Airline pilots don't think they need a look out. Now you know why I don't fly.
Air control fault? 💥✈️💀
Why do you have the DC9 flopping up and down like that. Planes don’t fly that way. It looks hokey and detracts from the story.
Airplane safety is amazing until you realize that it’s so safe because of rules that are written in blood, unfortunate but it had to happen for us to enjoy the experience we have now.
It had to happen because the desire for profit is a much stronger force of human nature than the welfare of others. That's probably why the vast majority of air crashes then and now were avoidable.
@@cchris874 because if its not safe they lose money so they need it to be safe to make money. Scummy but it is what it is
Your vid is impossibly quiet this time. Please, look into it.
Flight number digits add up to 13. I don't take those flights.😀....Alaska 1282, United 328, PIA 661, Air Algerie 5017, UPS 1354, Lion Air 904, Aerocon 238, Ethiopian 409, Kam Air 904, Sudan Airways 139, Turkish Airlines 634, Northwest 85, United 175 (9/11), USAir 427, Air Mauritanie 625, Asiana 733, Merpati Nusantara Airlines 724, Air Transport International 805, Air Inter 148, L'Express Airlines 508, Air Ontario 1363, Aeroflot 6502, Mexicana de Aviación 940, PBA 1039, Aeroflot 3352, Aerflot 4225, Western Airlines 2605, National 193,
The mumbling / vocal fry / bass boost is making it hard to actually hear what you are saying sometimes, it all gets a bit muddy in the low end. You make great videos, don't be afraid to speak up!
He sounds like he has some sinus congestion. Give him a break.
I wear hearing aids but I can understand him clearly.
I think you're just deaf to be honest. Never misunderstood what he was saying in any video. Maybe you do your own research next time 😂. Pretty pathetic that his channel has always been this way and you're one of the few complainers.
@@Sashazur I don’t wear any hearing aids, have Tinnitus; but I hear him clearly.
I would say mostly the Beechcraft pilots fault, flying VFR he would be responsible to stay clear of everything
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Manned aviation is the biggest threat to manned aviation, in spite of the anti-'drone' corporate-sponsored regulatory propaganda and overreach.
Who was in the wrong? The air traffic controller. Period.
when the beechcraft first appears, take a look on the left side. 1:05
and yes I liked my own comment
Only in ohi.....
Please boost your audio. The level is ridiculously low compared to other videos on RUclips. It's hard to understand with volume already at max.
I had no issues with it.
@@UncleKennysPlaceSame. Seems normal to me.
0:05: Pro tip: It is not "that people looked over." It's "that people overlooked."
And 8:40: "Infeasable" is not actually a word in English. Nor is this the first time you have used made-up words in your videos. Either you are linguistically creative or under-educated. Given the mistake at the beginning of your video, I think it's clear which one it is.