Austin is a much better person to work with for History 102 than the prior person. He meaningfully contributes to the content, where Eric pretty much said “uh huh, uh huh.”
Whoa. It's so weird to see Rudyard taking in a new idea and actually witness him thinking in real time. I'm so used to him just ejaculating information for an hour straight without taking a breath.
I was going comment that his description fits better into 40k than Fantasy. The Imperium is beset on all sides by Chaos, Xeno invaders and heretics, and is trying to preserve the old, stable order of the Imperium's heyday
Awesome to see a video about the reformation! My ancestors were French Huguenots who fled after the Huguenot wars and ended up in Saxony where they fought in the wars of religion. They ended up in Minnesota in the 1840s as missionaries to the Ojibwe. I’m super proud of that heritage
Mine went through the netherlands and into frisia, thats my grandfathers line from my moms side, we stayed in Germany though, Greetings from the old world!;)
Your anthropological approach of providing cultural and psychological context for history is so powerful. Other historians list events and battles chronologically which is as useful as a summary of a novel that lists what rooms the characters went in and who died with zero emphasis on motivation.
Seeing the modern left vs the modern right as Materialistic vs. Spiritual resonates really good with me, it just makes sense to me somehow.. cant really explain it thow
Luv the Mises reference, I will add that you should always remember that economics is all about Human Action. This is why you can never separate "economics" from "politics".
These conversations are truly amazing to listen to! This is my 3rd time for this 1 video, just because the back & forth between Rudyard and the new guest host is amazing. The new host has much more knowledge then the previous, which looked like a history teacher on Zoom teaching a student who has no knowledge of the subject at all.
Quick correction at 46:00, Calvin and Luther never met. Rather the first big standoff between the Reformed and the Lutherans was before Calvin was a part of the scene (Calvin only joined the game later) was between Luther and Zwingli, and not over the issue of predestination, but over the issue of sacramentology and the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist/Supper. Also the new co-host Austin is pretty good, he seems to be quite engaging and I hope that he sticks around.
I did not realize how much I missed the old focus on history specific analysis until now. I love your new content, but now I know I need both channels in my regular podcast consumption.
Having someone who can keep up with Rudyard and add interesting points leads to a great conversation! I’ve learned more than previous History102 episodes…I watch every one of them!
I pray for you. No greater crime has been committed against man than the conversion of Gods beloved people to Islam. No more spiritual people exist than middle easterners and they have been convinced to worship Saturn and the moon by a wrongly named arch angels in the desert. It saddens my heart for my brothers in Christ. Politics and kingdoms of man have made enemies of what she be a brotherhood of love of the one true God.
Glad to hear you are considering it man! My family has been Lutheran since the 1600s, I believe the Lutheran tradition still has a lot to offer to the world of Christianity
Im so glad to see ludwig with you. Great cohost pick, glad to see him speaking and adding input outside of just my twitter interactions with him. This should really grow into something great
As a staunch Protestant, I think it was a necessary and important evolution of Christianity that resulted in the Bible being able to be consumed by the common man rather than being guarded by the Catholic establishment.
If you are also a conservative... do you believe in representative democracy? And the US republic? If so, how is it any different. Democracy is too flawed for politics but good enough for religion?
Protestants don't know how to interpret the Bible and the clergy does. Bible alone brings Zionism then communism. The Catholic Church makes sure this doesn't happen.
On the question of where our modern elites draw their power to rule from: The short answer is manufactured concent, first through the world wars, then the fear of nuclear annihilation and then finally now the fear of the other. Clearly the last one has completely been broken.
An interesting fact of the Hussite wars was that Joan of Arc vowed to crush the Hussites after the 100 years war and saw Jan Hus as a despicable heretic
Did you say Martin Luther wasn't a monk ; he was a professor and monk, even if professionally, his focus was non cloistered academia than monastic daily life schedule. And with indulgences I think the straw that broke the camel back was the innovation of indulgences for future sins. Even when he made his monastic vow in the thunderstorm in lieu of fathers law school wishes-- he vowed to St. Anna mother of Mother Mary patron of copper miners where his father had made his mark!
Please make a bohemian civilization video. Czech history is so cool. They have a good Hussite stuff. And coke war and www2 history is really good. It would be cool to do videos that are all of the history chronologically a a country, culture or regions.
Your new co-host is fantastic. It always felt like it was just you talking and I myself not knowing nothing or a sliver of the information you be talking about. As a protestant, this makes me wonder how the Catholic church would be if they didn't go so heavy conservativism and actually addressed the issues of the church. Like we probably wouldn't of had the not so notorious Spanish Inquisition nor the Salem Witch Trials and probably the Japanese Jesuits seizing of power might never of happen.
I’m Reformed & therefore have heard a lot on this topic. Barely any secular historian goes over the theological causes of the Reformation. I will listen to this later and see if you cover any of that. Way more to it than “church corrupt.”
@@geoffrobinson Reformed sources lie. I was raised Reformed and heard their stuff. It’s not actually true. It’s absurd anyway to think that the Bible of the Catholic religion was somehow misunderstood until the random merchants understood it 1500 years later. And that what they found has lasted longer than what Jesus Himself founded ? Very absurd
@@JoseGomez-n4k I mean your own pope just said recently that the death penalty is wrong which goes against not only the Bible but all of Christian history and you want to lecture me that people couldn’t get things wrong for 1500 years?
@@user-fc7kj2hv3w you ask a good question. Since it is a broad topic, no. There is a good academic article from the early 60s about how the Jesuits in France revived Greek skepticism in order to undermine Protestant use of Scripture and that may have led to problems later on and the Enlightenment etc
One of best books I’ve come across on the reformation is “Fatal Discord: Erasmus, Luther, and the Fight for the Western Mind” I found it to be a holistic view of the time for both Catholic and Protestant.
The thing is that lately more people especially Atheists are going back to Christianity and many Muslims are leaving Islam to follow Christianity in large numbers. Also modern science came from the Catholic Church especially education like Universities or the Gregorian Calendar by fixing the problem created by the Julian Calendar.
@@dankerdank7070 No that's because if the people in Muslim nations has to practice Christianity in secret because if they get caught then they'll be executed.
The loss of the concept of covenant and the obsession with the question of the individual's salvation in Protestantism has been the problem. Also interestingly Jesus came called the logos. So he is the reason and rationality as well as God. This explains why Protestantism has been such a foundation to advancement.
This is my favorite podcast. I'm very happy about the new host and his clear vast knowledge. However I think the previous host had a better mindset about the role. I want Rudyard to have the chance to finish his flow. I think there should be an outline or script perhaps. But I like the new host and I love this channel. Something else since I'm at it lol. I think you guys should invest in high quality camera and mics. I think it might even make the channel more attractive for advertisers. Anyway best of luck and I love this channel
You need to have Séamus Coughlin on for a chat. Preferably with Uberboyo, I think there’s a good chance Séamus can convert both of you to Catholicism. Steph seems to be more in the Nietzsche camp, you’re probably pretty close to being Catholic, and the three of you talk about it a lot. It would be interesting to see you hash it out.
You would find "skepticism and the counter-reformation in France" by Richard H Popkin. One of my fellow seminary grads runs Anglican audio and they did an episode on it talking about the Roman church's role in the continental enlightenment in it's refutation of reason.
Hi. I'm watching your videos for years. One topic occupied my mind recently. Modern western cast system. You mentioned it a couple times, but I'd love video about that.
I much prefer this new guy, he’s a lot more knowledgeable so he adds more to the video, with the previous guy you might as well of just done the video solo.
Good to note is that indulgences were not about money from the beginning. If you sinned and repented, your sins would be forgiven, but you were also given a penance to "make up" for the consequences of your sin. An indulgence is a confirmation that you had completed the penance. Basically, you had to prove you were sincere in your repentance by a show of piety. "26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2:26 This could be anything from certain prayers to doing a pilgrimage, feeding the poor, giving to charity. The problem arose when priest would sell these indulgences for money. This was illegal but the corruption was so wide-spread that it continued anyway.
@ What possible utility could be gleamed from hypothetical discussions on what demons or angels may or may not have been influencing the motives and actions of people during the Protestant reformation? Sociology is the only way to do it in a useful way otherwise it’s just complete spit balling
The points about the ultimate and points of Christianity being agnostic/atheist/woke-ism is also echoed by Tom Holland in his books (particularly Dominion) I believe. Interesting that Jung also said something similar.
Jung also talks about the union of the two : Protestantism and Catholicism. In his writings of Answer to Job. If the two are to withstand in the modern world 9:31
Do you know enough about the Huguenots to talk about them? I would love to know more about this. I'm reading a biography of Katherine the Great and it said one of her mentors was a Huguenot that fled France. No explanation of what a Huguenot was. The author (a french guy writing 60 years ago) assumed the reader would know that. I looked it up and learned the Huguenots were French protestants. The king was protecting them from the Church but when he died the next king revoked that protection, allowing Catholics to attack them. Many left France, and one ended up tutoring the future queen of Russia, and founder of the Romanov Dynasty.
The Hussite War is fascinating and tragic. It also produced one of the most extraordinary military leaders of all time- Jan Zizka,an absolute badass genius warrior and the proto communist Taborite. The impetus was theological (heretical) as much as political with the English Jon Wycliffe playing a major role
Calvin wrote Luther for years after the Marburg Colloquoy seeking unity, even praising him over Zwingli on justification. The Genevan city council however was where the power was where the power was. The split was originally over the nature of the real presence in the eucharist. Then it of course became national identity.
Any chance you could recommend some books on the GDR? Maybe even do a video that doesn’t totally revolve around the Stasi (most people make that the entire focus of their work). Thanks for all the great content. Can’t get enough.
For you note near the end you say that the elites view the populas as cattel and their the shepherds. This ties back similarly to your statement that the elite draws their right to rule from ambiguous ideas of the past. A continual major theme in Baptist churches is the idea of people being lost sheep and god is our shepherd.
Would be interesting if Rudyard did a alternative history video where the Renaissance Occultism/Neopaganism won out over both Catholicism and Protestantism
I prefer Austin to Eric personally. Eric didn’t really add much to the conversation and was content to see Rudyard ramble for an hour. This new host keeps things a bit more focused
I was raised protestant but went to a catholic school and later discovered Taoism and Zen after years of atheism. Ooh and a spot of pagan magic in college. Religion is fascinating.
The difference between the Reformers and pietism or later Evangelicalism is an interesting one. The Reformers were very big on community and covenant giving Protestantism an early cohesion that peters out with the later Pietists. The momentum of Protestantism stayed with the individual question and moved it away from the Reformers in this aspect. May explain the movement from covenant and constitutionalism to the democracyfest we live in today.
I agree with Rudyard in that Catholicism is more about authority. But don't confuse that with restricting the information, more specifically the Bible. There was no ban on owning or reading the Bible. The restriction was how expensive making a Bible was, and mass illiteracy. People who could read would have beeen able to read the Bible. That is how the medieval heresies could arise in the first place.
Great conversation, and I'm looking forward to your coming discussion of the English Civil War. A few observations here: First of all, in order to place the Protestant upheavals in proper context, one needs to get some depth of Church history study. After all, the metanarrative internal to the story of the Christian faith has to be understood intellectually if one is going to have any hope of seeing a cogent picture. So, in order to do that one needs Catholic history, and even more fundamentally Eastern Orhodox Catholic history narratives as a guide. Because the Church was established in a tenuous but factual oneness of opinion and worship by the core believers who followed the Apostles, who of course followed Jesus Christ faithfully. If one was to make the narrative from that starting point, it would be this story of a core group of belivers who had received the Apostolic faith being continually assailed by a variety of forces, from non-believing pagans and heretical Jewish sectarian cult nutters, to the Jewish establishment itself. As we proceed along the narrative timeline, we would see no relent in any of these pressures until the miraculous conversion of the Emperor Constantine, and the eventual mainstreaming of the Church as an integrated element of Roman society. However, as soon as the outside pressures were slightly relieved, the inside ones became the new challenge to the continuation of right belief. Heresies of every type were vying to make the official Church establishment their own outfit, and very nearly succeeded in the form of the Arian heresy, which were ot not for the unshakable faith of the common people would have radically reworked Christianity into something more like the Jehovahs Witnesses. Yet in every age God raised up defenders of the faith who did battle in the spiritual warfare to keep the truth alive. These are saints and confessors of the universal Church, recognised by both East and West. Yet, as the living memory of the miracles of Christ and the Apostles grew dimmer in the minds of men, and the worldy interests of bishops began to cool their ardor for the heavenly life, the Church began a series of falls from Grace and the unity of love. These were the schisms of the Catholic Church, of which the Protestant upheaval was only one in series of greater and greater centripetal movement and shattered communion. A short, and not all-inclusive list of the most significant starts with the Chalcedonian schism of the fifth century between the Greek led Roman world and the Arabic North African one, roughly in parallel to the Rome/Carhage split. This was very important, because the breakdown of the Church along political and ethnic lines presaged the pattern for all future schism, and inadvertently opened the door to the rise of Islam and the wiping out of the flower of the Alexandrian Church, a source of major strength in the formative years of Christianity. After that was the Great Schism of the Eastern and Western Roman Church in 1056, again along roughly French/Papalist Latin vs. Greek Conciliat lines. The important outcome here was the emergence of the first totalitarian theocratic impulses in the form of Papal supremacy over Kings and the formation by the Vaticanof a scholastic "natural law", which was supposed to be applied across all jurisdictions. The moral and political decay of the Greeks would lead to the Turkish conquest of Byzantium in the fifteenth century, another fruit of Church dissolution following the destruction of Alexandria and Antioch, which left Rome where it wanted to be, on top. But even before that the Great Western Schism, to which you referred with the Avignon Papacy, had already destroyed the credibility to the belief that the Holy Spirit led the election of the pontiff. By the time Catholic Europe fell to the Protestant schism, almost everything of the original unity of the faith was hidden away from the world in the wilderness of Eastern monasteries, mainly writing and speaking Greek, which was a lost language to Europe at that time. And the Fall of the seat of the Greek speaking Byzantine Empire had thrown into doubt the credibility of the East. So Luther had little to know of even the existence of the continuation of the living branch. Again, schism would perpetuate along ethnic and political interests, with theology being a complex attempt to rationalise and self-justify acts of war. Now that the further dilution of Christian communion and delusion of sectarian heresy has led to an astounding tens of thousands of claimants to the title of "true Christianity," the Church is on the brink of utter collapse. Unfortunately, it would appear that the stage is set for the Enemy to take full control of the entirety of institutional Christianity in one Great sweep. As you witness the forces of reaction and pagan conservatism gain momentum, their agents within the various Church sectarian hierarchies will convene a Great Council which will appear to miraculously heal schism and restore Catholic oneness. This is none other than the work of the Antichrist, which has been prepared for centuries. The ultimate eradication of Jesus Christ from the Church, ironically in his very own name.
That verse is abrogated as now Christianity is God's chosen faith for Jews and gentiles by gospel. Christianity is Israel. Thus this should be spiritual not biological. Unfortunately not everyone is a Calvinist
I wouldn’t exactly call the Jesuits an independent mystic movement. That’s an odd way of putting it, unless you mean the order’s founder, St Ignatius Loyola was himself a mystic. The order itself was quite pragmatic.
I’m becoming Catholic, I was raised Protestant. We are both united to combat immorality, but I pray for conversions of other Protestants, especially of the non denominational kind.
Wow, a cohost that adds to the discussion, however now I am the dumbest person in the zoom class.
same
Bro, the 1 hour mark, brought something up that made all of us take a moment to acknowledge it's wisdom. This guy is good.
@@nicholisfourie8971I dislike libertarianism but he is very good at cutting through bullshit, not that I don't have my own
Austin is a much better person to work with for History 102 than the prior person. He meaningfully contributes to the content, where Eric pretty much said “uh huh, uh huh.”
Not to be mean with Eric though regardless. Hope the guy is doing well.
Rudyard your productivity recently is absolutely phenomenal!!!!! Finally something to watch on youtube.
I like your new co-host. Keep up the good work guys
Same, it's refreshing to see a host that isn't 😐 the entire video
Bro has blessed us with a feast of videos back to back.
He always posts a bunch of videos in a week then a month of no videos.
@@Maytrx He's my goat for being consistently inconsistent.
The November election boost
New co-host is amazing, keep em coming gentlemen
Whoa. It's so weird to see Rudyard taking in a new idea and actually witness him thinking in real time. I'm so used to him just ejaculating information for an hour straight without taking a breath.
Gross
You just described autism. 😂
@@florianschneider3982 aspie fosho
ejaculating 😭
@@florianschneider3982 Anybody who uses " _ejaculating information_ " without any irony is autistic.
3:35 There should be a fun Video about Warhammer 40k Lore and its parallels to our world, PLEASE RUDYARD😂😂😂 WE NEED IT
Yes
Warhammer fantasy too.
I was going comment that his description fits better into 40k than Fantasy. The Imperium is beset on all sides by Chaos, Xeno invaders and heretics, and is trying to preserve the old, stable order of the Imperium's heyday
No, cringe
I’m glad Eric is “physically fine.”😮
So good to hear an actual conversation between two people
Awesome to see a video about the reformation! My ancestors were French Huguenots who fled after the Huguenot wars and ended up in Saxony where they fought in the wars of religion. They ended up in Minnesota in the 1840s as missionaries to the Ojibwe. I’m super proud of that heritage
Mine too. And then they married Ojibwa.
@@selfprojects1953That’s cool to hear!
Mine went through the netherlands and into frisia, thats my grandfathers line from my moms side, we stayed in Germany though, Greetings from the old world!;)
Your anthropological approach of providing cultural and psychological context for history is so powerful. Other historians list events and battles chronologically which is as useful as a summary of a novel that lists what rooms the characters went in and who died with zero emphasis on motivation.
Seeing the modern left vs the modern right as Materialistic vs. Spiritual resonates really good with me, it just makes sense to me somehow.. cant really explain it thow
Luv the Mises reference, I will add that you should always remember that economics is all about Human Action. This is why you can never separate "economics" from "politics".
As a Ukrainian Hawaiian guy from SC who grew up Lutheran, I was really looking forward to this video, lmao.
I used to be Agnostic, I’m catholic now
The new cohost is a massive improvement, he does more than just sit and listen
24 hours 2 videos. Good job man 🗿🗿💪💪
1:01:01 once again, MIND BLOWN. I very much appreciate these videos. Thank you, gentlemen.
These conversations are truly amazing to listen to! This is my 3rd time for this 1 video, just because the back & forth between Rudyard and the new guest host is amazing. The new host has much more knowledge then the previous, which looked like a history teacher on Zoom teaching a student who has no knowledge of the subject at all.
Quick correction at 46:00, Calvin and Luther never met. Rather the first big standoff between the Reformed and the Lutherans was before Calvin was a part of the scene (Calvin only joined the game later) was between Luther and Zwingli, and not over the issue of predestination, but over the issue of sacramentology and the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist/Supper. Also the new co-host Austin is pretty good, he seems to be quite engaging and I hope that he sticks around.
I feel that the purchasing of Carbon Credits are the Modern Equivalent of buying Indulgences.
100%. Wokeness is the new religion.
I did not realize how much I missed the old focus on history specific analysis until now. I love your new content, but now I know I need both channels in my regular podcast consumption.
Having someone who can keep up with Rudyard and add interesting points leads to a great conversation! I’ve learned more than previous History102 episodes…I watch every one of them!
Love your new cohost. Your back and forth discussion is great
It was good to change hosts. Erik seems checked out. I don’t even understand why he was there
Thank you. Very interesting as always. I love this time period and found your points enlightening
Very messianic yet rationalistic. That's what I see Lutheran is and why as a person of Shia background who is considering converting I'm drawn to it
I pray for you. No greater crime has been committed against man than the conversion of Gods beloved people to Islam. No more spiritual people exist than middle easterners and they have been convinced to worship Saturn and the moon by a wrongly named arch angels in the desert. It saddens my heart for my brothers in Christ. Politics and kingdoms of man have made enemies of what she be a brotherhood of love of the one true God.
Glad to hear you are considering it man! My family has been Lutheran since the 1600s, I believe the Lutheran tradition still has a lot to offer to the world of Christianity
Catholicism is the fullness of Christ. Why do u follow Luther’s teaching on how things should be if not the main church?
@@azlyri be a Catholic , that’s the best and truest
@@JoseGomez-n4kyes very true.
Im so glad to see ludwig with you. Great cohost pick, glad to see him speaking and adding input outside of just my twitter interactions with him. This should really grow into something great
As a staunch Protestant, I think it was a necessary and important evolution of Christianity that resulted in the Bible being able to be consumed by the common man rather than being guarded by the Catholic establishment.
Absolutely agree
If you are also a conservative... do you believe in representative democracy? And the US republic?
If so, how is it any different. Democracy is too flawed for politics but good enough for religion?
Protestantism today has however become completely subverted by Satan
Protestants don't know how to interpret the Bible and the clergy does. Bible alone brings Zionism then communism. The Catholic Church makes sure this doesn't happen.
Bro has never heard of Rev. George Leo Dayton 💀
Prostestant moment
On the question of where our modern elites draw their power to rule from:
The short answer is manufactured concent, first through the world wars, then the fear of nuclear annihilation and then finally now the fear of the other. Clearly the last one has completely been broken.
I have autism and so when I saw the change, I wasn't sure at all but especially after watching this episode, I'm very pleased about it. Great episode!
An interesting fact of the Hussite wars was that Joan of Arc vowed to crush the Hussites after the 100 years war and saw Jan Hus as a despicable heretic
Great commentary and additional points from co-host
Eric seems like a good soul, hope he's doing okay, but I am enjoying the fact that Austin is participating and adding to the discussion.
Hey could you talk about Jan Huss and the Hussite wars?
Did you say Martin Luther wasn't a monk ; he was a professor and monk, even if professionally, his focus was non cloistered academia than monastic daily life schedule.
And with indulgences I think the straw that broke the camel back was the innovation of indulgences for future sins.
Even when he made his monastic vow in the thunderstorm in lieu of fathers law school wishes-- he vowed to St. Anna mother of Mother Mary patron of copper miners where his father had made his mark!
Back to back bangers
I like this dude more than the last guest, because he adds something and doesn’t just listens and sayes yes.
Such a missed opportunity to post this on reformation day
Please make a bohemian civilization video. Czech history is so cool. They have a good Hussite stuff. And coke war and www2 history is really good. It would be cool to do videos that are all of the history chronologically a a country, culture or regions.
Your new co-host is fantastic. It always felt like it was just you talking and I myself not knowing nothing or a sliver of the information you be talking about. As a protestant, this makes me wonder how the Catholic church would be if they didn't go so heavy conservativism and actually addressed the issues of the church. Like we probably wouldn't of had the not so notorious Spanish Inquisition nor the Salem Witch Trials and probably the Japanese Jesuits seizing of power might never of happen.
finally a warhammer fantasy reference over the typical 40k, refreshing.
Wow a Co-Host who adds to the dialogue. That’s crazy.
Thank you for finally noticing Czechia! :)
I’m Reformed & therefore have heard a lot on this topic. Barely any secular historian goes over the theological causes of the Reformation. I will listen to this later and see if you cover any of that. Way more to it than “church corrupt.”
Do you have any books on this you would recommend
@@geoffrobinson Reformed sources lie. I was raised Reformed and heard their stuff. It’s not actually true. It’s absurd anyway to think that the Bible of the Catholic religion was somehow misunderstood until the random merchants understood it 1500 years later. And that what they found has lasted longer than what Jesus Himself founded ? Very absurd
@@JoseGomez-n4k I mean your own pope just said recently that the death penalty is wrong which goes against not only the Bible but all of Christian history and you want to lecture me that people couldn’t get things wrong for 1500 years?
@@user-fc7kj2hv3w you ask a good question. Since it is a broad topic, no. There is a good academic article from the early 60s about how the Jesuits in France revived Greek skepticism in order to undermine Protestant use of Scripture and that may have led to problems later on and the Enlightenment etc
@geoffrobinson very interesting connection ill see if I can find it
Ah, one of My favorites clusterfucks period in history, the sheer caos and insanity are morbidly fascinating.
And the new co-host is awesome.
This new host is amazing keep him!
I've been waiting a long long time for this
Same
Love the new guy.
Great job everybody 👏
One of best books I’ve come across on the reformation is “Fatal Discord: Erasmus, Luther, and the Fight for the Western Mind” I found it to be a holistic view of the time for both Catholic and Protestant.
The thing is that lately more people especially Atheists are going back to Christianity and many Muslims are leaving Islam to follow Christianity in large numbers. Also modern science came from the Catholic Church especially education like Universities or the Gregorian Calendar by fixing the problem created by the Julian Calendar.
Very good trend, but it needs to grow more.
@@bikesrcool_1958 It is and it takes time.
Iranian Muslims are the biggest demographic of that
@@dankerdank7070 No that's because if the people in Muslim nations has to practice Christianity in secret because if they get caught then they'll be executed.
Do one on the second great awakening and the US civil war.
He did one on the Civil War about 6 months back
The loss of the concept of covenant and the obsession with the question of the individual's salvation in Protestantism has been the problem.
Also interestingly Jesus came called the logos. So he is the reason and rationality as well as God. This explains why Protestantism has been such a foundation to advancement.
This guest was phenomenal. Get him a mic
being a Confessional Lutheran aided me to know just about everything Rudy talked about in this episode
This is my favorite podcast. I'm very happy about the new host and his clear vast knowledge. However I think the previous host had a better mindset about the role. I want Rudyard to have the chance to finish his flow. I think there should be an outline or script perhaps. But I like the new host and I love this channel. Something else since I'm at it lol. I think you guys should invest in high quality camera and mics. I think it might even make the channel more attractive for advertisers. Anyway best of luck and I love this channel
Having studied Proto protestant movements and thinkers for a long while this was a grand video to watch after a spiritual hideous.
I really like Rudyard's new cohost, he has a lot to contribute.
This cohost is great
You need to have Séamus Coughlin on for a chat. Preferably with Uberboyo, I think there’s a good chance Séamus can convert both of you to Catholicism. Steph seems to be more in the Nietzsche camp, you’re probably pretty close to being Catholic, and the three of you talk about it a lot. It would be interesting to see you hash it out.
Love this! Thank you!!
You would find "skepticism and the counter-reformation in France" by Richard H Popkin. One of my fellow seminary grads runs Anglican audio and they did an episode on it talking about the Roman church's role in the continental enlightenment in it's refutation of reason.
Hi. I'm watching your videos for years. One topic occupied my mind recently. Modern western cast system. You mentioned it a couple times, but I'd love video about that.
Two History 102 videos in two days? aren't we lucky!
I much prefer this new guy, he’s a lot more knowledgeable so he adds more to the video, with the previous guy you might as well of just done the video solo.
Great Video!!!!!! 👍
Rudyard, you should play EU4 someday. Awesome historical strategy game that takes place from 1444 to 1836.
Good to note is that indulgences were not about money from the beginning. If you sinned and repented, your sins would be forgiven, but you were also given a penance to "make up" for the consequences of your sin. An indulgence is a confirmation that you had completed the penance. Basically, you had to prove you were sincere in your repentance by a show of piety.
"26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2:26
This could be anything from certain prayers to doing a pilgrimage, feeding the poor, giving to charity. The problem arose when priest would sell these indulgences for money. This was illegal but the corruption was so wide-spread that it continued anyway.
I walk away from discussions that treat all religions as primarily sociological phenomena, thinking that the point really has been missed.
What you think Angels and Demons are out here literally manipulating people into doing what they do?
Yes@@NotTheGreenKnight
@ What possible utility could be gleamed from hypothetical discussions on what demons or angels may or may not have been influencing the motives and actions of people during the Protestant reformation? Sociology is the only way to do it in a useful way otherwise it’s just complete spit balling
You just want people to indulge your delusions lmao
It is interesting to think about how the Roman church took it's traits in chaos as the last institution in the Roman Empire.
The points about the ultimate and points of Christianity being agnostic/atheist/woke-ism is also echoed by Tom Holland in his books (particularly Dominion) I believe. Interesting that Jung also said something similar.
Jung also talks about the union of the two : Protestantism and Catholicism. In his writings of Answer to Job. If the two are to withstand in the modern world 9:31
Grew up Catholic, became an atheist for a while, and now rediscovering that I'm really more of a protestant.
Vague.
Anglican, Lutheran, Baptist, Presbyterian? Other
Do you know enough about the Huguenots to talk about them? I would love to know more about this. I'm reading a biography of Katherine the Great and it said one of her mentors was a Huguenot that fled France. No explanation of what a Huguenot was. The author (a french guy writing 60 years ago) assumed the reader would know that. I looked it up and learned the Huguenots were French protestants. The king was protecting them from the Church but when he died the next king revoked that protection, allowing Catholics to attack them. Many left France, and one ended up tutoring the future queen of Russia, and founder of the Romanov Dynasty.
The Hussite War is fascinating and tragic. It also produced one of the most extraordinary military leaders of all time- Jan Zizka,an absolute badass genius warrior and the proto communist Taborite. The impetus was theological (heretical) as much as political with the English Jon Wycliffe playing a major role
new game: drink every time rudyar says he 'teased out' something
Calvin wrote Luther for years after the Marburg Colloquoy seeking unity, even praising him over Zwingli on justification. The Genevan city council however was where the power was where the power was. The split was originally over the nature of the real presence in the eucharist. Then it of course became national identity.
Any chance you could recommend some books on the GDR? Maybe even do a video that doesn’t totally revolve around the Stasi (most people make that the entire focus of their work). Thanks for all the great content. Can’t get enough.
For you note near the end you say that the elites view the populas as cattel and their the shepherds. This ties back similarly to your statement that the elite draws their right to rule from ambiguous ideas of the past. A continual major theme in Baptist churches is the idea of people being lost sheep and god is our shepherd.
Would be interesting if Rudyard did a alternative history video where the Renaissance Occultism/Neopaganism won out over both Catholicism and Protestantism
Much better co-host, Eric didn’t really add much tbh
I prefer Austin to Eric personally. Eric didn’t really add much to the conversation and was content to see Rudyard ramble for an hour. This new host keeps things a bit more focused
Czechia mentioned 🤝🤝🤝🤝
I was raised protestant but went to a catholic school and later discovered Taoism and Zen after years of atheism. Ooh and a spot of pagan magic in college. Religion is fascinating.
The difference between the Reformers and pietism or later Evangelicalism is an interesting one. The Reformers were very big on community and covenant giving Protestantism an early cohesion that peters out with the later Pietists. The momentum of Protestantism stayed with the individual question and moved it away from the Reformers in this aspect. May explain the movement from covenant and constitutionalism to the democracyfest we live in today.
Please do the French Revolution next
So what church does Rudyard go to on Sundays? Or does he?
It doesn’t matter to me.🤓
Nominalism destroyed scholasticism and it’s a bad thing
Keep the good content coming, even with the shadowbann the channel is growing
I'm having a groundhog day
I agree with Rudyard in that Catholicism is more about authority. But don't confuse that with restricting the information, more specifically the Bible. There was no ban on owning or reading the Bible. The restriction was how expensive making a Bible was, and mass illiteracy. People who could read would have beeen able to read the Bible. That is how the medieval heresies could arise in the first place.
Great conversation, and I'm looking forward to your coming discussion of the English Civil War. A few observations here:
First of all, in order to place the Protestant upheavals in proper context, one needs to get some depth of Church history study. After all, the metanarrative internal to the story of the Christian faith has to be understood intellectually if one is going to have any hope of seeing a cogent picture. So, in order to do that one needs Catholic history, and even more fundamentally Eastern Orhodox Catholic history narratives as a guide. Because the Church was established in a tenuous but factual oneness of opinion and worship by the core believers who followed the Apostles, who of course followed Jesus Christ faithfully. If one was to make the narrative from that starting point, it would be this story of a core group of belivers who had received the Apostolic faith being continually assailed by a variety of forces, from non-believing pagans and heretical Jewish sectarian cult nutters, to the Jewish establishment itself.
As we proceed along the narrative timeline, we would see no relent in any of these pressures until the miraculous conversion of the Emperor Constantine, and the eventual mainstreaming of the Church as an integrated element of Roman society. However, as soon as the outside pressures were slightly relieved, the inside ones became the new challenge to the continuation of right belief. Heresies of every type were vying to make the official Church establishment their own outfit, and very nearly succeeded in the form of the Arian heresy, which were ot not for the unshakable faith of the common people would have radically reworked Christianity into something more like the Jehovahs Witnesses. Yet in every age God raised up defenders of the faith who did battle in the spiritual warfare to keep the truth alive. These are saints and confessors of the universal Church, recognised by both East and West.
Yet, as the living memory of the miracles of Christ and the Apostles grew dimmer in the minds of men, and the worldy interests of bishops began to cool their ardor for the heavenly life, the Church began a series of falls from Grace and the unity of love. These were the schisms of the Catholic Church, of which the Protestant upheaval was only one in series of greater and greater centripetal movement and shattered communion. A short, and not all-inclusive list of the most significant starts with the Chalcedonian schism of the fifth century between the Greek led Roman world and the Arabic North African one, roughly in parallel to the Rome/Carhage split. This was very important, because the breakdown of the Church along political and ethnic lines presaged the pattern for all future schism, and inadvertently opened the door to the rise of Islam and the wiping out of the flower of the Alexandrian Church, a source of major strength in the formative years of Christianity. After that was the Great Schism of the Eastern and Western Roman Church in 1056, again along roughly French/Papalist Latin vs. Greek Conciliat lines. The important outcome here was the emergence of the first totalitarian theocratic impulses in the form of Papal supremacy over Kings and the formation by the Vaticanof a scholastic "natural law", which was supposed to be applied across all jurisdictions. The moral and political decay of the Greeks would lead to the Turkish conquest of Byzantium in the fifteenth century, another fruit of Church dissolution following the destruction of Alexandria and Antioch, which left Rome where it wanted to be, on top. But even before that the Great Western Schism, to which you referred with the Avignon Papacy, had already destroyed the credibility to the belief that the Holy Spirit led the election of the pontiff. By the time Catholic Europe fell to the Protestant schism, almost everything of the original unity of the faith was hidden away from the world in the wilderness of Eastern monasteries, mainly writing and speaking Greek, which was a lost language to Europe at that time. And the Fall of the seat of the Greek speaking Byzantine Empire had thrown into doubt the credibility of the East. So Luther had little to know of even the existence of the continuation of the living branch.
Again, schism would perpetuate along ethnic and political interests, with theology being a complex attempt to rationalise and self-justify acts of war. Now that the further dilution of Christian communion and delusion of sectarian heresy has led to an astounding tens of thousands of claimants to the title of "true Christianity," the Church is on the brink of utter collapse. Unfortunately, it would appear that the stage is set for the Enemy to take full control of the entirety of institutional Christianity in one Great sweep. As you witness the forces of reaction and pagan conservatism gain momentum, their agents within the various Church sectarian hierarchies will convene a Great Council which will appear to miraculously heal schism and restore Catholic oneness. This is none other than the work of the Antichrist, which has been prepared for centuries. The ultimate eradication of Jesus Christ from the Church, ironically in his very own name.
Next video are English Civil war & 30 years war?
Come to some Divine Liturgies guys. Nothing makes me more glad to be Orthodox like contemplating the Protestant Reformation
My family has been Protestant for generations and my parents have 0 critical thoughts. All they know is “bless Israel & be blessed”. Sad religion
That verse is abrogated as now Christianity is God's chosen faith for Jews and gentiles by gospel.
Christianity is Israel.
Thus this should be spiritual not biological.
Unfortunately not everyone is a Calvinist
I wouldn’t exactly call the Jesuits an independent mystic movement. That’s an odd way of putting it, unless you mean the order’s founder, St Ignatius Loyola was himself a mystic. The order itself was quite pragmatic.
From experience I would say he isn't too far off. The Jesuits tend to throw off dogma for personal experiences/opinions.
@@ThatchyThrone the Jesuit order today is the polar opposite of what it was in the days of Ignatius Loyola and Francis Xavier.
Hail Yakub
I’m becoming Catholic, I was raised Protestant. We are both united to combat immorality, but I pray for conversions of other Protestants, especially of the non denominational kind.
If you are goin traditional, ya might as well go all the way to Orthodoxy
I was non Denominational Prot but now I’m an Eastern Orthodox Christian Convert!
Welcome home to Rome
Nice, is it the reformed kind or the original that the Old Rite practices?@@obiwankenobi6871
You wasp I'm a orc