For certain, the most thorough explanation of the picking and the strumming on this song! But its appreciated a lot; some of us are much more mechanical than artistic and need this detail to get there, Thanks!
Yeah I just saw it, good job. Calling it 3/4 makes more sense then you always work in complete bars. I've been playing for 17 years and this bit nearly always catches me out, the ultimate challenge is to try and get a whole band to change time signature at the same time! And people say U2 aren't good musicians! Great tutorials by the way, I esp like the way you explain the sound settings, I'm an M13 user myself great unit for the price!
What a brilliant tutorial You explained it so well It all made perfect sense to me. What a great teacher you are. Thank you very much and please Keep up the good work.
Wow. It is very clear, very explicit and well done. I believe U2 will be remember it in the future as one of the most influence band in the planet after The Beatles. And the best rock band after Led Zeppelin. I admired Jimmy Page at his time, I lived that era, but today I am certain The Edge is one of the best guitarist in our time. He has mastered his own way with his guitar creating a new perspective of how to play guitar, and how to conceive rock.
I think you meant at 5:20. You are watching Part 3. It's explained in some of the other parts of the tutorial. I always review the detailed effects. That's a modulated digital delay (dotted 8th note). No chorus. What you hear are dotted 8th repeats and modulation (which is similar to chorus, but it's built into the delay on just the repeated notes). The Boss DD-20 has a good digital modulated delay, as do the Eventide units.
Thanks for the time spent on these. About the tempo, the band score says time signature 12/8 and there's one bar of 6/8 (sort of half of the bars we'd playing before) right before it goes into 4/4. This all may not affect your counting if you are counting in groups of 6 instead of the 12, since that odd 6/8 measure will not feel like "half a measure". Technical stuff, but nice to know.
@mcole46 Time signatures also designate rhythm and meter. 3/4: 1&2&3& (six 8th notes) 6/8: 1&a2&a (six 8th notes) - this is the transition riff before the 4/4 4/4: 1&2&3&4& Just because he plays six 8th notes, doesn't mean it's 6/8. 3/4 is also six 8th notes. In other words, 3/4 has one emphasis note (on the "1" of the six notes) and 6/8 has two emphasis notes (on the "1" and "2" of the six notes).
No palm mute. Try it, you will see it doesn't sound right. The slightly chunky tone comes from the amp set to the verge of breakup. Note the studio version is very clean.
@mcole46 Lot of debate on this. 6/8 has a rhythm or meter like this: "1&a2&a". 3/4 is "1&2&3&1&2&3&" which exactly matches the meter of the main riff (emphasis is on every 6 8th notes or 3 quarter notes). It's my understanding that time signatures designate a certain rhythm or meter; not just a count of note types. The main riff is all 8th notes, yes, but 3/4 designates their emphasis. 6/8 is the transition part into 4/4. I posted a more detailed tutorial after this one that explains it.
Got it. There has been a lot of debate on this on the Boards. See part A6. I posted an update/correction. You still might not agree but I had a couple drummers tell me what I did was correct. But I don't think there is a right/wrong. I think about it the way I illustrated it in part A6. Thx.
@fuelfreak108 Larry is hitting the cymbal every two 3/4 bars so some will say it's 6/4. I can understand that. I just believe 3/4 more accurately describes the guitar which is what I focus on. For what it's worth, all the official score out there says 3/4. I haven't found one yet that says 6/4. I will ask a music professor at Julliard because I'm intellectually curious what they will say.
A decade late but I agree that it's 3/4. Time signatures depend on where the strong beats fall so even though 3/4, 6/8, 6/4, all works out mathematically there is a difference in the feel. Based on the riff, it sounds like: *Strong, beat, beat* , *Strong, beat, beat*, *Strong, beat, beat*, *Strong, beat, beat* vs. 6/4 timing which would be *Strong, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat,*, *Strong, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat,*...
@fuelfreak108 There are some that say it's 6/4 also. I'm not an expert, but based on talking to experienced drummers and musician's, I prefer to think of it as 3/4 to 6/8 to 4/4.
i really like this tutorial, and you are such a good teacher!! I have a question, what guitar effect do you use at 4:20?? Did you keep your guitar clean, or just added a chorus??taht's the only problem i have had! Please help me with this doubt!!
It might be worth mentioning that if you use 6/4 or 6/8 and count 6's from the first cymbal hit you end up with an extra 3 beats or half a bar just before the note pattern changes, before I analysed this properly it threw me every time! In essence I believe the change to 4/4 happens half way through a bar. I'd be interested if anyone else has picked up on this?
I asked you because i could reach the delay effect, the number of repeated notes, but i still haven't reached the same sound as you! I have got a KORG AX 3000G, a digital no one, and i don't know how to make the mod
I have reached the effect of repeating notes, but i still haven't reached its modulation. I've got a sustaining pedal KORG AX 3000G, and i don't know how to make the modulation delay, do you know how to make it???
For certain, the most thorough explanation of the picking and the strumming on this song! But its appreciated a lot; some of us are much more mechanical than artistic and need this detail to get there, Thanks!
Very decent of you to have taken the time out to make these in depth videos on how to play these songs. Thank you.
never get sick of hearing that riff, thanks for the lesson!
Yeah I just saw it, good job. Calling it 3/4 makes more sense then you always work in complete bars. I've been playing for 17 years and this bit nearly always catches me out, the ultimate challenge is to try and get a whole band to change time signature at the same time! And people say U2 aren't good musicians! Great tutorials by the way, I esp like the way you explain the sound settings, I'm an M13 user myself great unit for the price!
This is amazing. You have no idea how much this helps my band. Thanks!
I know this is old, I just found it. Thanks for the breakdown of the time changes.
You are an absolutely perfect human being
ONE OF THE GREATEST EVER INTROS TO A SONG
What a brilliant tutorial
You explained it so well
It all made perfect sense to me.
What a great teacher you are.
Thank you very much and please
Keep up the good work.
@U2GuitarTutorials Thanks for keeping us up to date! I'm very interested in this now that you have pointed out the possibilities.
Wow. It is very clear, very explicit and well done. I believe U2 will be remember it in the future as one of the most influence band in the planet after The Beatles. And the best rock band after Led Zeppelin. I admired Jimmy Page at his time, I lived that era, but today I am certain The Edge is one of the best guitarist in our time. He has mastered his own way with his guitar creating a new perspective of how to play guitar, and how to conceive rock.
Thank you mate. God bless ya 😘😘👍🏻
Outstanding! Best tutorial Ive seen! Thank you so much!
Fantastic thank you. I’m off to learn
I think you meant at 5:20. You are watching Part 3. It's explained in some of the other parts of the tutorial. I always review the detailed effects. That's a modulated digital delay (dotted 8th note). No chorus. What you hear are dotted 8th repeats and modulation (which is similar to chorus, but it's built into the delay on just the repeated notes). The Boss DD-20 has a good digital modulated delay, as do the Eventide units.
Very good tutorial which I should have watched before I went up on stage and screwed up the time signature transition bit
Thanks for the time spent on these. About the tempo, the band score says time signature 12/8 and there's one bar of 6/8 (sort of half of the bars we'd playing before) right before it goes into 4/4. This all may not affect your counting if you are counting in groups of 6 instead of the 12, since that odd 6/8 measure will not feel like "half a measure". Technical stuff, but nice to know.
@mcole46
Time signatures also designate rhythm and meter.
3/4: 1&2&3& (six 8th notes)
6/8: 1&a2&a (six 8th notes) - this is the transition riff before the 4/4
4/4: 1&2&3&4&
Just because he plays six 8th notes, doesn't mean it's 6/8. 3/4 is also six 8th notes. In other words, 3/4 has one emphasis note (on the "1" of the six notes) and 6/8 has two emphasis notes (on the "1" and "2" of the six notes).
What a great lesson! Can't thank you enough!!!!!
No palm mute. Try it, you will see it doesn't sound right. The slightly chunky tone comes from the amp set to the verge of breakup. Note the studio version is very clean.
I believe this is 6/8 time. It's not 1 & 2 & 3 &... it's 1 2 3 4 5 6 with the eighth note getting the beat. Thanks for your time on these, MC.
Great vid. My fat fingers on the g string struggle to keep the b and e string sounding clean but I will persevere
Superb. Thank you.
"The Boys of Summer" cover by Ataris. Originally written and performed by Don Henley (from the Eagles).
@mcole46
Lot of debate on this. 6/8 has a rhythm or meter like this: "1&a2&a". 3/4 is "1&2&3&1&2&3&" which exactly matches the meter of the main riff (emphasis is on every 6 8th notes or 3 quarter notes). It's my understanding that time signatures designate a certain rhythm or meter; not just a count of note types. The main riff is all 8th notes, yes, but 3/4 designates their emphasis. 6/8 is the transition part into 4/4. I posted a more detailed tutorial after this one that explains it.
Got it. There has been a lot of debate on this on the Boards. See part A6. I posted an update/correction. You still might not agree but I had a couple drummers tell me what I did was correct. But I don't think there is a right/wrong. I think about it the way I illustrated it in part A6. Thx.
In music, 4/4 time is also called C or common time on a staff.
Edge seems to say it's in 6/4 - he discusses it on It Might Get Loud, and even gives different ways of counting it.
@MrKeefelm
I did a correction/update in Part A6. If you skip to the 14 minute mark, you will see I sync'd up some counting animation with the song.
awesome, many thanks.
Great, thanks you.
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@fuelfreak108
Larry is hitting the cymbal every two 3/4 bars so some will say it's 6/4. I can understand that. I just believe 3/4 more accurately describes the guitar which is what I focus on. For what it's worth, all the official score out there says 3/4. I haven't found one yet that says 6/4. I will ask a music professor at Julliard because I'm intellectually curious what they will say.
A decade late but I agree that it's 3/4. Time signatures depend on where the strong beats fall so even though 3/4, 6/8, 6/4, all works out mathematically there is a difference in the feel. Based on the riff, it sounds like: *Strong, beat, beat* , *Strong, beat, beat*, *Strong, beat, beat*, *Strong, beat, beat* vs. 6/4 timing which would be *Strong, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat,*, *Strong, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat,*...
@fuelfreak108
There are some that say it's 6/4 also. I'm not an expert, but based on talking to experienced drummers and musician's, I prefer to think of it as 3/4 to 6/8 to 4/4.
@U2GuitarTutorials Yeah it's definitely a lot easier to count in 3/4!
1:09 That is how Dave Evans got his nickname "The Edge"
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i really like this tutorial, and you are such a good teacher!! I have a question, what guitar effect do you use at 4:20?? Did you keep your guitar clean, or just added a chorus??taht's the only problem i have had! Please help me with this doubt!!
I still havent found tutorial
It might be worth mentioning that if you use 6/4 or 6/8 and count 6's from the first cymbal hit you end up with an extra 3 beats or half a bar just before the note pattern changes, before I analysed this properly it threw me every time! In essence I believe the change to 4/4 happens half way through a bar. I'd be interested if anyone else has picked up on this?
I asked you because i could reach the delay effect, the number of repeated notes, but i still haven't reached the same sound as you! I have got a KORG AX 3000G, a digital no one, and i don't know how to make the mod
Nice video, what is that song in the beginning
"on the Edge, so to speak" LOL
I have reached the effect of repeating notes, but i still haven't reached its modulation. I've got a sustaining pedal KORG AX 3000G, and i don't know how to make the modulation delay, do you know how to make it???
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Its the hit hat, not cymball crash
This shows how much my thumb strength is under-developed..
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This is amazing. You have no idea how much this helps my band. Thanks!