Russian SS - A Brief History of the Kaminski Brigade

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @paulh2468
    @paulh2468 2 года назад +554

    "Assorted psychos". An obscure technical term used by some historians. Dr. Felton is the best!

    • @joedunleavy7066
      @joedunleavy7066 2 года назад +16

      Men without morals who would do the most horrible things imaginable which is very sick

    • @spectreandromedus8661
      @spectreandromedus8661 2 года назад +17

      When you study war and genocide, "assorted psychos," becomes an all too common phrase.

    • @archstanton6102
      @archstanton6102 2 года назад +6

      @@spectreandromedus8661 Sad but true Germany, Soviet Union, Cambodia, Rwanda + many more

    • @rob5944
      @rob5944 2 года назад +13

      For the German forces in Poland during WWII to be disgusted and embarrassed by them gives some indication as to the depths this brigade had sank to.

    • @tyree9055
      @tyree9055 2 года назад +8

      @@spectreandromedus8661 I believe it's kind of like the 2022 Russo-Ukraine War. The Russians took heavy losses marching on Kyiv, so they took their (collective?) anger out on the local civilians. They arrived with one mindset and left with another... I suppose the question is, did they become psychos due to battle or was it a predisposition due to their societal values?
      🤔

  • @badxradxandy
    @badxradxandy 2 года назад +1045

    I've always thought it was interesting how the Waffen SS started with a bloodline requirement then progressed into a sort of foreign legion of everyone and anyone.

    • @holzbergerpeter4480
      @holzbergerpeter4480 2 года назад +46

      They still got strong rules for them

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 года назад +13

      Though not about the Nachtagale Division SS?

    • @declanmcnamara2223
      @declanmcnamara2223 2 года назад

      that tends to happen when you have to start arming 13 year olds

    • @rodgerrodger1839
      @rodgerrodger1839 2 года назад +214

      It's called desperation and they were full of s*** to begin with.

    • @jayjayson9613
      @jayjayson9613 2 года назад +64

      Manpower issue for one.

  • @alpha_echo_diDi
    @alpha_echo_diDi 2 года назад +864

    Mark Felton is not a RUclipsr, he is a professional mini-documentary producer/writer/director/editor and everything else he does. I believe the standards of these kinds of “videos” are set by mr. Felton. God knows how many ppl try to make these videos and fall far short

    • @RhysapGrug
      @RhysapGrug 2 года назад +22

      He is also a you tuber' soft lad.

    • @SGTDuckButter
      @SGTDuckButter 2 года назад +17

      This is the future, I watch what I want to watch instantly, he is a RUclipsr or I would have never heard of him.
      Yeah since then I have noticed him in documentary’s with a fact here and there. I think he’s brilliant and I trust his words, he’s a great man, but thank god he’s on RUclips.

    • @alpha_echo_diDi
      @alpha_echo_diDi 2 года назад +13

      @@SGTDuckButter i dont think you understood the compliment. Mr.Felton uses the platform youtube to distribute his content. The term youtuber i use is to describe amateurs trying to copy and imitate real professionals like Mark.

    • @muurisoras5878
      @muurisoras5878 2 года назад +9

      I agree 💯!!!Mark Felton is in his own league!

    • @Alte.Kameraden
      @Alte.Kameraden 2 года назад +9

      He isn't much different than many other History Tubers, I mean beyond the channels specifically for none enthusiast. Simple History for example doesn't count as a proper History Tube Channel, in my opinion of course... among other examples. There are a number of proper channels who are either History teachers, or Historians themselves, and in all respects if you're researching history and producing even if it's content on youtube, which would make you a youtuber still even if you're a writer, or historian on top of that. Publishing content on youtube as an individual makes you a youtuber regardless of what you do outside of youtube.
      History Hustle for example is a History Teacher, so is the Metatron. Aviation History Visualized has published more than one book thus far, so he is more than just a youtuber as well. TIKHistory might as well start publishing his content proper, because boy I'd love to see him start getting books published, some of his videos might as well be called audio books with tons of citations and proper references.
      That being said, many history focused youtube channels just regurgitate information which doesn't help the discussion and progression of our understanding of history which is fine/dandy but that isn't really what a historian does in my opinion. As the job of a historian is to discover history, find things other historians might of missed or overlooked, and help make history more and more accurate over time, not just regurgitate. This is why I welcome when a channel post all the sources they used and even proper citations, even if you may not agree with their conclusions.

  • @fldan1
    @fldan1 2 года назад +634

    How awful do you have to be to have the German forces kick you out of Warsaw after becoming disgusted with what you’re doing? I can’t even imagine.

    • @lewisdean22
      @lewisdean22 2 года назад +61

      When the Devil invites you into their city and after a while they are sickened by your actions say’s a lot. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️

    • @josephd27
      @josephd27 2 года назад +12

      Yeah that is something to think about

    • @MyILoveMinecraft
      @MyILoveMinecraft 2 года назад +34

      I mean drilwanger was active in Warsaw at the same time

    • @sturmovikcarr7289
      @sturmovikcarr7289 2 года назад

      Dirlewanger was not only a rapist, super alcoholic , murderer, and overall lover of all kinds of violence, he was even "allegedly" into necrophilia. These Kaminski characters were probably cut from the same baleful cloth.

    • @MrAM4D3U5
      @MrAM4D3U5 2 года назад

      You’re a moron. The German forces were compromised of honorable men. At least, the percentage of honorable men within the German ranks during the Second World War was the highest amongst any of the nations involved in the conflict. There were atrocities on all sides. Especially amongst the Soviet and Japanese ranks. People immediately associate all German soldiers in the war with death camps and mass genocide, even though less than 1% of 1% of the troops were even aware of any such activities, let alone actively partook in them. But hey, if you want to frame the entire war through the lens of post-war American propaganda mixed in with denazification and Israeli propaganda than go ahead I guess…

  • @michaelaustin310
    @michaelaustin310 2 года назад +90

    I forget where I read it but a contributing factor to Kaminski getting the axe was his unit started going after German nurses at Warsaw as well.

    • @tristynbishop6158
      @tristynbishop6158 Год назад +1

      Isn't that something that Dirlewanger or the Soviets would do?

  • @giantmanice
    @giantmanice 2 года назад +80

    Honestly one of the most underrated history channels on this entire website

    • @mikeggg5671
      @mikeggg5671 2 года назад +1

      Except that he occasionally engages in Allied propoganda, such as when he accused the Army of committing war crimes in Afrika, which did not happen.

    • @giantmanice
      @giantmanice 2 года назад +3

      @@mikeggg5671 oh yeah you were there to testify I'm sure bud 😂

    • @mnbv990
      @mnbv990 2 года назад

      agreed patrick.

    • @mikeggg5671
      @mikeggg5671 2 года назад +1

      @@giantmanice no, but my grandfather was

    • @mikeggg5671
      @mikeggg5671 2 года назад +1

      @@mnbv990 sometimes he puts out amazing material, and then other times he simply spews leftist, anti-german propaganda. It's really sad. He will wow me with one video, and then come out with tripe like this in another

  • @felixcortez7604
    @felixcortez7604 2 года назад +219

    According to WikiPedia this happened to Kaminski:
    Heinrich Himmler used the misconduct of the Warsaw group as a pretext for having Kaminski and his leadership executed after trial by court martial in Litzmannstadt (Łódź). They were tried for stealing the property of the Reich, as the stolen property was to have been delivered to Himmler, but Kaminski and his men had attempted to keep it for themselves.Also executed with Kaminski was brigade chief-of-staff Waffen-Obersturmbannführer Ilya Shavykin.
    The men of the brigade were given the false explanation that Kaminski had been killed by Polish partisans. When Kaminski's men rejected this explanation, the Gestapo took Kaminski's car, pushed it into a ditch, shot it up with a machine gun, and smeared goose blood all over it, as evidence. The demoralized unit was soon moved out of town and stationed to the north, far from any partisan activity.
    The death of Kaminski and the unreliability of his troops as a combat unit brought the plans to expand the Kaminski Brigade to a division to an end. After Kaminski's death, his unit was placed under the command of SS-Brigadeführer and Generalmajor der Polizei Christoph Diehm

    • @Superknullisch
      @Superknullisch 2 года назад +6

      So is this correct then, or? Mr Felton, a comment on the WikiPedia info, would be much appreciated? : )

    • @Paciat
      @Paciat 2 года назад

      @@Superknullisch And why would it not be right? Cause morons that dont know how to check references on the page say it was wrong a few times? Wiki is as inaccurate as any non specialized encyklopedia.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronislav_Kaminski#References

    • @MrRjh63
      @MrRjh63 2 года назад

      Makes sense really the Germans killing them due to disgust doesnt fit but failing to give Himmler his cut yeah that makes much more sense.

    • @tywinlannister8015
      @tywinlannister8015 2 года назад +10

      @@Superknullisch The Doc mentions this as one of the possibilities but specifically says it is unclear. The only reference for that entire section is a single book by a Polish historian.
      Considering the love of the Germans for bureaucracy I find that odd that the book's contents have not been corroborated elsewhere, or the book even translated into English.
      I'd say leave it at unclear.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 2 года назад +12

      Yeah Wikipedia is notoriously inaccurate, if you’re relying on that for truth you can forget it. Stick to academic historians not Joe public who just keep their favourite pet pages looking just how they like. You ever tried to edit a Wikipedia page? Anything you put in that upsets someone is removed, no matter how well you reference it. Welcome to wokepedia

  • @marcioreis2648
    @marcioreis2648 2 года назад +38

    Mr Felton again a professionally narration of events taken decades ago. If you allow me to add , WW2 has so many facets to it, that is almost impossible to know every single one . But You are doing a good job though . Thank you.

  • @MBBurchette
    @MBBurchette 2 года назад +385

    When your brutality shocks and disgusts the Waffen SS, you know you’ve hit rock bottom.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 2 года назад +38

      It wasn't their brutality, that was "fine", it was the inability of the "unit" to maintain discipline and control its "troops". These were the worst of the worst of former Soviets the Germans could scrape together.

    • @drott150
      @drott150 2 года назад

      Since when was the SS below the NKVD, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky et al in depravity? Who terrorized and killed more people over the longest period of time? No contest.

    • @MBBurchette
      @MBBurchette 2 года назад +8

      @@drott150 This is like comparing Jim Brown with Frank Gore. The latter has many more yards, but needed twice as long as the former to get them. Not many would credibly argue that Gore was the better player.
      The NKVD, Red Guard, KGB, Kmer Rouge - all were brutal, disgusting and deserving of our disdain. But none approached the SS (1942-44 especially) in peak barbarism.

    • @drott150
      @drott150 2 года назад

      @@MBBurchette I don't know a single thing about Frank Gore or Jim Brown, other than I vaguely remember Jim Brown because he was in _The Dirty Dozen._ But you, stuck in a brain dead sports bubble, thinks everyone likes and knows about the same inane things you do, which are designed to distract ordinary people away from the real "sports game" going on in their lives. "Peak barbarism" as you call it, comes down to body count. Who killed more? If you add up the body count of communism, especially spread out over many decades amongst many nations and cultures, it *absolutely dwarfs* the SS and all other comers hands down. The fact that you are in any way confused about that proves you are a true _sports fan_ indeed! TOUCH DOWN COACH!!!

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning 2 года назад +7

      @@MBBurchette The one fellow above you is pointing out that the Nazis found Kaminski's actions to be perfectly moral and were only displeased about the fact they suffered losses, that's all.

  • @masahige2344
    @masahige2344 2 года назад +36

    These tales of blurred lines and loyalties are invaluable in contextualizing the often simplified realities of the Second World War and of national histories. Thank you again, Dr. Felton.

  • @TheGeezzer
    @TheGeezzer 2 года назад +19

    Great research as per usual, with wonderful photographs and crisp clear narration. Truly one of the best WWII documentary sites on YT.

  • @B-26354
    @B-26354 2 года назад +40

    I found out a few of the blokes at work were avid Mark Felton fans by mentioning one of his videos (British involvement in Vietnam after the Japanese surrender) we all agreed he's one of the best youtubers and historians on the subject.
    These kind of documentaries are sorely needed in today's world given the amount of junk pumped out by more traditional, mainstream media outlets - they're effectively stupefying the population.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 2 года назад +124

    I noticed something upon second viewing. I believe that the picture at 1:58 was actually taken when Wheremaht and Red Army cooperated in conquering the Polish Republic in 1939. It appears that at least one of the Soviet soldiers (the tankist on the right) didn't feel particularly comfortable with his new, temporary German allies.

    • @jduff59
      @jduff59 2 года назад +18

      Good eye Artur! I believe you are correct, and the photo looks quite familiar.

    • @TheZINGularity
      @TheZINGularity 2 года назад +2

      Definitely a weary expression

    • @tomfilipiak3511
      @tomfilipiak3511 Год назад +7

      4 of my relatives were in the Polish army! Captured by the Russians,prisoners in Siberia, only 2 returned,Tomaz Lulek,and Anthony Lulek,my uncle Tomaz would always sing the Polish anthem at our family reunions,God bless his soul,and all who fought for peace and justice!

    • @RoboSapiens999
      @RoboSapiens999 Год назад +5

      It was weird for Soviet people. For many years Soviet propaganda fought Nazis, then suddenly after September 1939 they became friends

    • @Kongongongg
      @Kongongongg Год назад +1

      @@RoboSapiens999 not friends and not ally
      Just business partners

  • @chekaschmeka4283
    @chekaschmeka4283 2 года назад +5

    Mark Felton is not a You-tuber, he is a Yore-tuber, and the best one ever.

  • @oncall21
    @oncall21 2 года назад +4

    Another hidden gem of history lost for all if it hadn't been for Dr Felton. Thanks for sharing!

  • @markalexander774
    @markalexander774 2 года назад +34

    An interesting note is that Kamimski himself was not an ethnic Russian. He was Polish and German.

    • @benadam7753
      @benadam7753 Год назад +7

      Quite evident Kaminski was Polish with that surname!

    • @MK-lm6hb
      @MK-lm6hb Год назад +1

      @@benadam7753 A person's name is not a sign of his/her ethnicity or nationality.

    • @benadam7753
      @benadam7753 Год назад +2

      @@MK-lm6hb In some cases yes. But usually it is! I have a German surname and I'm 50% German, I'm also 50% Italian!

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek Год назад +2

      @@benadam7753
      Many Russians have Polish surnames.

    • @MK-lm6hb
      @MK-lm6hb Год назад

      @@benadam7753 Ethnicity is not an objective fact. Only the person concerned can say who he is in terms of ethnicity. Kaminski considered himself to be Russian. Whether you are German or Italian, it is your choice. You seem to think about human beings in biological terms. In other words, you essentialise what is existential.

  • @tacomas9602
    @tacomas9602 2 года назад +5

    Yet again our favorite no bullshit history teacher has uploaded a wonderful video!

  • @alancasey3176
    @alancasey3176 Год назад +2

    I have been a WW2 aficionado for 50 years and appreciate the golden nuggets Dr. Felton provides that I have never seen anywhere else. Where does he find this stuff? Thank you Mark!

    • @drivewaynats3696
      @drivewaynats3696 Год назад

      its all info you can find in books for around the last 50 years that ive been alive

  • @RobbieCec
    @RobbieCec 2 года назад +4

    Again and again the output and detail is 1st class.

  • @jinnbuster4753
    @jinnbuster4753 2 года назад +8

    Thank you another brilliant piece of work. It is almost as if history is repeating itself.

  • @Patrick_0n
    @Patrick_0n 2 года назад +4

    Fascinating videos! Wonderful production quality. Bravo. You are better than history channel.

  • @americanpatriot2422
    @americanpatriot2422 2 года назад +8

    Always an Outstanding video and presentation.

  • @HistoryHustle
    @HistoryHustle 2 года назад +125

    Hey Mark, such a funny coincidence. We both (almost at the same time) released a video on this topic. Cheers!

    • @TomasPetkevicius94
      @TomasPetkevicius94 2 года назад +6

      I doubt that he stole the idea from you. After all, it takes time to make a video.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 2 года назад +5

      @@TomasPetkevicius94 Obviously.

    • @fritzreimer7933
      @fritzreimer7933 2 года назад +5

      Also a perfect opportunity to advertise your channel, 🙂

    • @ReaperCH90
      @ReaperCH90 2 года назад +3

      @@TomasPetkevicius94 no shit, Sherlock

    • @Ditka-89
      @Ditka-89 2 года назад

      Felton is the Carlos Mencia of history documentaries 🤣

  • @TankerBricks
    @TankerBricks 2 года назад +5

    Mark. Thanks for providing my Sunday Night entertainment!

  • @PUBHEAD1
    @PUBHEAD1 2 года назад +6

    The perfect combination...a cup of tea, a biscuit, and another great video to watch on a Sunday afternoon. Thank you Mark.

    • @clvrswine
      @clvrswine 2 года назад

      What a wuss. You wouldn't last one minute the US.

  • @hackney7106
    @hackney7106 2 года назад +12

    What a fascinating piece of history!Thx Mark!👍👍🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

  • @jeffmcdonald4225
    @jeffmcdonald4225 2 года назад +43

    Imagine getting out from under Stalin, only to wind up under Hitler. It must have been like being torn between two dogs. Those poor civilians must have felt cursed.

  • @hlynnkeith9334
    @hlynnkeith9334 2 года назад +34

    I had not heard of this unit before.
    When will you cover the Waffen SS Croats and Sovene police units?
    You may find the Latvian Waffen SS to be a surprising relief.

    • @oasis1282
      @oasis1282 2 года назад +4

      Make a video about the swiss ss

    • @von-Adler
      @von-Adler Год назад

      At the War's end The Latvian SS were interned in Neuengamme Concentration Camp, South of Hamburg. Most of them came to ENGLAND.

  • @thEannoyingE
    @thEannoyingE 2 года назад +3

    The increasing quality and research devoted to this channel is absolutely astounding. How it hasn’t gained more attention, is anyone’s h guess. Thank you for highlighting this seldom talked about area of WWII history, as you often do. Thank you.

  • @alextakacs768
    @alextakacs768 2 года назад +1

    I always enjoy Dr Felton's videos and comments they'all very clear and easy to understand i give him 5 STARS!!! The highest Award Ever!!!

  • @sheldonrobertson8670
    @sheldonrobertson8670 2 года назад +13

    Wow the amount of atrocities committed by German and Russian forces in WW ll is astonishing, Mark's incredible historical data base never ceases to amaze me, RIP to all who died in that terrible time thanks.

    • @gerardomartinez8000
      @gerardomartinez8000 2 года назад +2

      reds not we're Saints they make Many crines too

    • @lukecastle2538
      @lukecastle2538 Год назад +1

      The Chinese and Japanese were worst. Which is saying a lot

    • @alexandervaltsev6937
      @alexandervaltsev6937 Год назад

      You mean Soviet forces. FYI 18 million Soviet civilians were killed during the war. Not nearly as many Germans and other nazis experienced the same

    • @jeramysamarawickrama7633
      @jeramysamarawickrama7633 Год назад

      ​@@lukecastle2538 the japanese not the chinese

  • @andydunn5673
    @andydunn5673 Год назад +1

    Outstanding stuff Dr
    Thanks for putting this out for us

  • @zaunkonig3493
    @zaunkonig3493 2 года назад +3

    As always, very interesting. Tks a lot Marc! Best wishes from Switzerland René

  • @Behemot_
    @Behemot_ Год назад +1

    As historian and reenactor of WW2 I only can say your videos are the best of the best.

  • @NicholasD-tn6cn
    @NicholasD-tn6cn 2 года назад +37

    The Allies returned all Soviet nationals hwho were in Europe to the Soviet Union, the Soviets even convinced the Allies to repatriate the "White Russians" who left Russia during the Russian Civil war. Many were killed, and one of the main reasons was that the Soviet leadership didn't want people in the Soviet Union to find our that quality of life in Europe was much better than in the Soviet Union, so they had to liquidate anyone who might spread the word.

    • @Baseballnfj
      @Baseballnfj 2 года назад +1

      Lol....
      Go ask everyone in Russia today if things were better under the Soviet Union or capitalism of the 90's and into today...
      Go ahead, I'll wait.

    • @mickycaneloni8431
      @mickycaneloni8431 2 года назад +3

      @@Baseballnfj And who are you? Who represents ALL of Russia an its peoples
      (Not even counting those countries who were under soviet occupation). Come on, Justify your nonsense, I can wait too.

    • @DawidKov
      @DawidKov 2 года назад +1

      White emigration was never a subject of any actions regarding Nazi collaboration. With the exception of those directly participating in collaboration (Krasnov being the most famous example), White emigration remained where it was. Many assisted the Allies, some served in Western armies, some have aided the Resistance, and so on.
      The majority of White emigration did not get affected in any way.
      However, there were times before the war when White emigrants were either lured to USSR by false promises of amnesty, or where forcibly deported back to Russia by some nations (including the US, sometimes), and in those cases, they faced quick reprisal from the Soviets as traitors to the people.

    • @RichardCranium.
      @RichardCranium. 2 года назад

      Yeah, the Soviet Union was a shithole. And even today Russia is a shit country. Nigeria with snow.

    • @RichardCranium.
      @RichardCranium. 2 года назад

      @Сергей Третьяков Cope. Your country is poor. You think you are so great because of all the nukes. But you are colonized by central Asians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis and other Churkhas.

  • @brianfeely9239
    @brianfeely9239 Год назад +1

    Yet again, a superb video. Concise and informative.

  • @Frang14998
    @Frang14998 2 года назад +10

    Thanks for all the interesting and informative videos Dr Felton!!

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 года назад

      Look further, Ukrainian forces riddled with neo nazis today and worse back then! #OUM Nachtagale Division SS, Azov Battalions etc etc...

  • @adanjobek1915
    @adanjobek1915 2 года назад +2

    Top notch content at the moment Mark.

  • @Ash-ey9oy
    @Ash-ey9oy 2 года назад +5

    Thanks Mark.. I just watched you in the documentary about Hiters train America... Great watch

  • @erkvongronk8583
    @erkvongronk8583 2 года назад +1

    Fine work as usual Mr. Felton! From Mr. Felker

  • @bedantasvlog2650
    @bedantasvlog2650 2 года назад +12

    Dr.Felton deserve some sort of award 🥇 for his documentaries and narration

  • @iameggness6751
    @iameggness6751 2 года назад +1

    What a good time for a good old Mark Felton video

  • @jamestaylor7710
    @jamestaylor7710 2 года назад +43

    Russian SS I had no idea! Thank you Dr Felton for teaching me something new .

    • @steffenrosmus9177
      @steffenrosmus9177 2 года назад +4

      Jep, today the Russians call them in today' s conflict: Tchechens or Kadyrov brigade

    • @jamestaylor7710
      @jamestaylor7710 2 года назад +3

      @Werner Pfeifenberger I knew about the Muslim SS , through Dr Felton .

    • @emadbagheri
      @emadbagheri 2 года назад +7

      Learn about Azov Battalion while you are at it!

    • @jamestaylor7710
      @jamestaylor7710 2 года назад +2

      @@emadbagheri what's it about? I'm always ready to learn.

    • @emadbagheri
      @emadbagheri 2 года назад +5

      @@jamestaylor7710 Azov Battalion is a Nazi paramilitary group in Ukraine, their insignia is a wolfsangel- swastika combo, they have been inducted into the Ukranian military recently and most of the prominent images of fighters in Ukraine, usually wearing the yellow armbands are of them. They are simply the latest manifestation of Nazism in Ukraine, tracing back to Stepan Bandera, who has a statue and a street in mariupol if I'm not mistaken

  • @josephd27
    @josephd27 2 года назад +6

    I love your history videos Mark, keep up the wonderful work good sir

    • @ОлегЕфимов-е3с
      @ОлегЕфимов-е3с Год назад

      Что ты любишь в этих сюжетах- смотреть как англия стравливала людей? И грабила страны?

  • @dashcroft1892
    @dashcroft1892 2 года назад +36

    1:17 Mark, I love the mastery of understatement demonstrated there. I am sure the Ukrainians indeed found the Germans to be as unpleasant as Stalin and his secret police. Nicely phrased.

    • @dashcroft1892
      @dashcroft1892 2 года назад

      My comments are limited to the narrative of Dr. Felton. Thank you for presenting your views. By your account, it sounds like your great grandfather’s social work in Ukraine left a positive impression on him.

    • @StevenKeery
      @StevenKeery 2 года назад +1

      @@Oberkommando : It would seem not much has changed since then.

    • @milferdjones2573
      @milferdjones2573 2 года назад +2

      @@Oberkommando depends on local German treatment. As Slavs they were of inferior blood and SS in particular treated Ukrainian roughly. One European Scale war game had option to treat Ukrainian better creating a great number of German Ukrainian troops. This did not occur due to local German oppression.
      So luckily in your example they did not receive the negative treatment to change their minds. I assume biggest amount of bad treatment was anyone wanting any say in how local government ran.

    • @drott150
      @drott150 2 года назад +6

      No, they didn't find the Nazis as unpleasant as Stalin and the NKVD. That's why the Azov battalion still exists today.

    • @ПавелЧерняк-к2м
      @ПавелЧерняк-к2м 2 года назад +2

      bot above

  • @sepehrniknam9069
    @sepehrniknam9069 2 года назад +7

    Never heard about this group
    Thank you Mr felton

  • @Nick_B_Bad
    @Nick_B_Bad 2 года назад +9

    The Anti-Partisan medal is definitely one of the most wicked issues by Nazi Germany. You know the recipients had to do some wicked stuff to get them in gold.

    • @petergray7576
      @petergray7576 2 года назад

      It was encouraged. In early 1941 Wehrmacht Chief of Staff Wilhelm Keitel issued the Barbarossa Order, the first of four "criminal orders" pertaining to the pending invasion of the Soviet Union that gave permission to German soldiers to commit war crimes. The Barbarossa Order explicitly told German commanders that persons suspected of being a partisan, or supporting partisan activities, were not the responsibility of civilian or military justice systems, but instead were the responsibility of unit commanders whose forces had taken these persons into custody. Combined with another subsequent order that exempted German soldiers from military court prosecution for murder, assault and robbery against USSR citizens, and it granted carte blanche to torture, maim and murder anyone suspected partisan on the commander's whim.

    • @rhysnichols8608
      @rhysnichols8608 Год назад

      Not necessarily, there were legitimate large partisan movements that did a lot of damage to German logistics. Often actual fighting took place that could warrant a well earned medal, it wasn’t all arresting civilians and shooting kiddies, although this did sadly happen too.

  • @adielstephenson2929
    @adielstephenson2929 Год назад

    This is largely new to me. Thanks.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 2 года назад +30

    What a coincidence, the channel History Hustle just made a video about RONA a day ago. Let's compare them then!
    Edit: Both videos are very good and rather comparable. I would say they complement each other, as there are some bits of information present in one but not the other and vice versa.

    • @FrancisH1992
      @FrancisH1992 2 года назад

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  • @Home-ed6zg
    @Home-ed6zg 2 года назад +2

    Mark , love your channel and videos thanks for what you do .👍🌟🇨🇦

  • @romanbrough
    @romanbrough 2 года назад +7

    I recall that one of the "Russian" units who fought for the Germans surrendered en mass to the British in 1945.
    These were later handed over to the Russians and the British troops reported that many of the prisoners were shot before the British guards had left.

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 2 года назад +1

    Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up for support

  • @thejudgmentalcat
    @thejudgmentalcat 2 года назад +4

    5:52 A very accurate description 👌

  • @philbachmann6398
    @philbachmann6398 2 года назад +3

    It's just beginning. Thanks Dr. Felton. 🇦🇺

  • @歴史語学
    @歴史語学 2 года назад +10

    Mark Felton's secondary channel is even better if you've actually read his books

  • @danielhammersley2869
    @danielhammersley2869 2 года назад +29

    Excellent short video, Dr Felton! Thank you for distinguishing the ROA from the RONA--many historians lump the together (much like the German Nazi's did in the end). General Vlasov was no Kaminski, and Kaminski was no Vlasov in the theater of battle imho. Kaminski was no better than Oskar Dirlewanger. Vlasov one can argue felt betrayed By Stalin, and upon his capture, sought to be of use to the German Nazi's for his homeland. Vlasov is a tragic figure who betrayed the USSR; Kaminski has no redeeming features in his tale as an utter villain.

  • @volodymyrvsahdneek5065
    @volodymyrvsahdneek5065 2 года назад +11

    Dirlewanger's unit started out by recruiting poachers from prison.

  • @derekrayment8092
    @derekrayment8092 2 года назад +1

    Mark Felton is the GOAT

  • @alastairward2774
    @alastairward2774 2 года назад +4

    I like this category of Mark Felton videos, people who very keenly throw their lot in with the Nazis then get ground up by the Soviets.

  • @15-Peter-20
    @15-Peter-20 2 года назад +1

    I think fort VII would make for a good video Dr Felton. Again fantastic video I'm always learning. Thank you.

  • @theylivewesleep4570
    @theylivewesleep4570 2 года назад +10

    Bogus as hell to send them back to Russia they fought for Germany they earned the right to stay

    • @josephstabile9154
      @josephstabile9154 Год назад

      They were Russians, and their countrymen--our allies--reeeally missed them. : )

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 2 года назад +1

    A wonderful History Coverage of this Matter

  • @marshaldillon4387
    @marshaldillon4387 2 года назад +4

    Well do Sir Mark. 🇺🇸🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @weilandiv8310
    @weilandiv8310 2 года назад

    Phfeww! I thought the preview pic was from Hogan's Heroes. Both programs are outstanding!

  • @dr.history3567
    @dr.history3567 2 года назад +8

    A video on SS Cossack units would be very interesting. Such as the XV SS Cossack Cavalry Corp would an interesting video topic

    • @clvrswine
      @clvrswine 2 года назад +1

      How about this: make your own?

    • @JohnSmith-fd5un
      @JohnSmith-fd5un 2 года назад

      @@clvrswine
      How about this: shut up.

  • @hanzup4117
    @hanzup4117 2 года назад +2

    I can't think of anything interesting to say, but I'm commenting anyway for the algorithm.

  • @andreypolovinko1244
    @andreypolovinko1244 2 года назад +8

    My apologies. A few weeks ago I sent an extremely critical review of your new videos. I was wrong. I am glad that you are still neutral and independent. All the best. Sincerely from the "cursed" Russia

  • @dustylover100
    @dustylover100 2 года назад +13

    I love the way you tie stuff from the past into the present. Especially when talking about Ukraine.

    • @emadbagheri
      @emadbagheri 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, I'm sure he will do a video on the Nazi legacy of Ukraine, from Stepan Bandera to today's Azov Battalion next!

    • @Simlan12345
      @Simlan12345 2 года назад

      @@emadbagheri Or Holodomor if he's ever done that.

    • @emadbagheri
      @emadbagheri 2 года назад

      @@Simlan12345 I don't remember him doing one specifically on the Holodomor, I know he has made mention when in relation to other events.

  • @dasboot5903
    @dasboot5903 2 года назад +6

    *What Kaminski's Brigade of murderers and maniacs were doing in Warsaw, during the Polish Uprising in that city .... Germans were observing from the side. Because of the brutal methods of killing innocent civilian Poles by the Kaminski's "soldiers" .... some German officers couldn't stan it and they were puking beside the curbs of the streets !!!! :o(*
    That is of what my Godmother told me, I remember. She was a teenage girl, and she survived the Warsaw Uprising on the District of Wola, where the most killings of the Polish civillians took place at the start of the Uprising.

  • @manueldeomsysanta2909
    @manueldeomsysanta2909 2 года назад +6

    The last person who was executed from the Kaminski Brigade,was the executioner Antonina Makarova who the third woman in the Soviet Union's history to have been tried under capital punishment after the Second World War.

  • @markregev1651
    @markregev1651 2 года назад +18

    Do Galicia SS next

    • @GQ2593
      @GQ2593 2 года назад +3

      You mean the current Ukrainian army?

    • @daviddoran3673
      @daviddoran3673 2 года назад

      Very good!!

  • @starlonga
    @starlonga 2 года назад +1

    Interesting information!

  • @jean6872
    @jean6872 2 года назад +7

    Kaminski appears to have been the type of sociopath which time of war affords opportunities to do their worst. In time of peace some undoubtedly live ordinary respectable lives.

  • @TheYeti308
    @TheYeti308 2 года назад +2

    I thought these guys were Polish and how would the SS ever trust them , sheesh ! thanks for sorting out the mess .

  • @rifekimler3309
    @rifekimler3309 2 года назад +17

    The Kaminsky Brigade was not an SS formation and was composed mostly of ethnic Belorussians, not Russians. It was less a military unit than a marauding horde.

    • @Jolrog
      @Jolrog 2 года назад +2

      Kaminski Brigade was just the nickname of the Waffen-Sturmbrigade der SS "RONA". They recruited from different soviet territories.

  • @zuo3063
    @zuo3063 2 года назад +3

    Its a shame Mark isn't in charge of the "History" channel.

  • @deanfirnatine7814
    @deanfirnatine7814 2 года назад +15

    "Actions embarrassed the Germans" wow, that says a lot

  • @realbenking
    @realbenking 2 года назад +1

    I trust marck Felton more then any history book from school, that being said, where do you think his knowledge was learned from? Aside from visiting the sites, which is actually really cool.

  • @utkarshchoudhary3870
    @utkarshchoudhary3870 2 года назад +4

    A tragic tale of betrayal, hatred, and horror.
    What humanity had become....

  • @Bigsky1991
    @Bigsky1991 2 года назад +7

    You know your Unit is getting out of hand when their activities are so outrageous even SS and SD officers complain and have you executed!

    • @ghalibmuyassar5114
      @ghalibmuyassar5114 2 года назад

      Because kaminski work together with Dirlewanger?
      I didnt know kaminski got executed by other SS. I was thinking that he died by the allies

  • @ernstwiltmann3918
    @ernstwiltmann3918 2 года назад +4

    Just subscribed to your informative channel.
    Could you perhaps make a Documentary about the SS Division Galicia, and the Wolyn Massacre ? Thank you, that would be awesome.

    • @EarleALLEN
      @EarleALLEN 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/lK3O_hMlwNQ/видео.html&ab_channel=HistoryHustle

    • @ernstwiltmann3918
      @ernstwiltmann3918 2 года назад

      @@EarleALLEN I've seen it, it caters to a target audience , that loves shortcuts and a clear black and white view on historical facts. Spun that way leaves a few inconvenient facts out, It does not explain in more detail why sentiment, hatred and seditious jingoism where born. HistoryHustle has to be consumed with not only a grain of salt. Did you notice the virtue signaling ? Anyway, the TPV (Polish TV) produced a much more informative 2003 documentary called the Silverlands : ruclips.net/video/zQ_FprMmjNs/видео.html

    • @von-Adler
      @von-Adler Год назад +2

      SS Division GALICIA - THAT WAS THE UKRAINIANS!

    • @ernstwiltmann3918
      @ernstwiltmann3918 Год назад

      @@von-Adler Yes, and Bandera provided the manpower needed to man a range of Concentration Camps. Furthermore, Ukrainian battalions fought against the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in 1943 and the Warsaw Uprising in 1944.

    • @EarleALLEN
      @EarleALLEN Год назад

      @@von-Adler there was a division from every balkan country

  • @JoeyPinter
    @JoeyPinter 2 года назад +1

    "just as unpleasant". that's one way to say it Dr Felton.

  • @leemichael2154
    @leemichael2154 2 года назад +21

    Trying to explain to Stalin or Beria you joined the SS or German army because you we're systematically tortured and starved was a non-starter out the gate, it made these poor wreched unfortunates doubly doomed the poor soul's, fab content as per!

    • @m.a.118
      @m.a.118 2 года назад +1

      German Army maybe, but SS? You had to be a little more than a "poor downtrodden Russian" to not only *want* but be *accepted* into the SS. Let's not give the SS a free pass on the Moralental Express because Stalin and his NKVD goons were also awful.

    • @daviddoran3673
      @daviddoran3673 2 года назад +2

      Hunger could be a serious persuader....

    • @leemichael2154
      @leemichael2154 2 года назад +3

      @@m.a.118 depends on the year in WW2 though doesn't it? Early on I agree 100% with you but remember that they eventually started taking on Muslims the Handshar etc ? So as long as the number's we're maintained Himmler in particular would accept anyone in the latter year's, Indians Muslims (with unit imams etc)so as losses climbed they we're willing to accept anyone who would wear an SS uniform for whatever reason, and dropped the high standards they started with ideological reason's

    • @milferdjones2573
      @milferdjones2573 2 года назад +1

      @@leemichael2154 call them racist standards although high is not wrong it a evil standard.
      Typical Empire Building. Remaining just pure blood party loyalists limited the size thus power of the organization showing leader considers power way more than ideas important to them.

    • @clvrswine
      @clvrswine 2 года назад +1

      Non-sense, run-on sentence. Make NO SENSE in English.

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 2 года назад +3

    Was this the Brigade that was depicted in Come and See?

    • @daviddoran3673
      @daviddoran3673 2 года назад +2

      Them and the Dirlewanger Brigade....

    • @erich2432
      @erich2432 2 года назад

      @@daviddoran3673 It was Einsatzkommando actually, little brother of Einsatzgruppen, under the SD/RSHA.

  • @maxhill9254
    @maxhill9254 2 года назад +18

    Very interesting subject. The war in the east was a rather mixed affair and not as clear cut as national socialist propaganda communicated. As Dr. Felton correctly stated, not everyone in the east was a communist and among the many peoples in the UDSSR (and Balkans) there were strong inner hostilities, which to some extent still exsist today. I believe that if the third reich had invested more effort in taking advantage of these regional, ethnical and ideological differences of the divers groups in the east, the war could have gone on longer. By waging an undoubtedly genocidal "Vernichtungskrieg" against all non-Ayrans and treating those non-Ayrans who cooperated contemptiously, the third reich drove millions into the ranks of the red army (or partisans).

    • @milferdjones2573
      @milferdjones2573 2 года назад +5

      A fact that could not be avoided as that racist view core to their belief system.

    • @maxhill9254
      @maxhill9254 2 года назад +1

      @@milferdjones2573 Yes, I very much agree

    • @riccardodececco4404
      @riccardodececco4404 2 года назад +3

      you could also turn your saying around: things were not as clear-cut as Soviet and western propaganda (including mainstream historiography) depicts these events.

    • @maxhill9254
      @maxhill9254 2 года назад +2

      @@riccardodececco4404 Yes I very much agree with you in respect to soviet propaganda. The soviets were not much better in this regard than the third reich but that wasn't the subject of my statement. My statement referred to the third reich, the soviets were not in the focus.
      IMHO: Western propaganda (i.e. American and British) was a lot more truthful although they also manipulated the truth when it suited them, it does however pale in comparison to the two totalitarian regimes of Hitler and Stalin.

    • @robertmiles1603
      @robertmiles1603 2 года назад +1

      "aryans", not "ayrans"

  • @johngibson2884
    @johngibson2884 2 года назад +4

    Would like to see a section on the Kuban Cossacks the most feared of the foreign SS units

  • @tamaskazup6560
    @tamaskazup6560 2 года назад +4

    Do you have any information about the ukrainian SS units in ww2?

    • @WarStorieswithMarkFelton
      @WarStorieswithMarkFelton  2 года назад

      See my video about this subject on my other channel.

    • @tamaskazup6560
      @tamaskazup6560 2 года назад

      @@WarStorieswithMarkFelton thank you!

    • @EarleALLEN
      @EarleALLEN 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/lK3O_hMlwNQ/видео.html&ab_channel=HistoryHustle

  • @malimate2660
    @malimate2660 Год назад +3

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  • @kf7mjf
    @kf7mjf 2 года назад +5

    Every time I think I might forgive Soviets for going over to the Germans, I just see them become as bad or worse than that which they despised.

  • @nathanphillips3251
    @nathanphillips3251 2 года назад +4

    Mr. Felton, please consider covering civilian experiences in historical warzones and under unfriendly regimes. Were any groups able to survive or even succeed because of wise decisions?

  • @cqtaylor
    @cqtaylor 2 года назад +4

    I'm still waiting for Mark Felton to post a doc proving that Sgt. Rock was real!

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 года назад

      And post SS Nachtagale Division evidence along with OUM, STEPHAN BANDERA ETC!?

  • @EnderGhost119
    @EnderGhost119 2 года назад

    A very apt documentary to make these days! You should make one about Mr Bandera!

  • @Katmando376
    @Katmando376 2 года назад +4

    Many Latvian, Lithuanian and Estonians served in the German Army.

  • @JT-sr2pl
    @JT-sr2pl Год назад +2

    It's so sad that basic facts are now so hard to represent to the masses these days. But Mark Felton is certainly doing his best to counter that...

  • @paulhunter6742
    @paulhunter6742 2 года назад +3

    It's strange how history tends to repeat itself. These are same people in Ukraine today. Who are still fighting to remain independent from Soviet Union.

  • @Dulcimertunes
    @Dulcimertunes 2 года назад +1

    Although I have studied WWII for many years, this is a new chapter to me. I have no words for the depth of depravity presented here.
    Also look up Antonina Makarova.😢

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 2 года назад +3

    It would be really nice if you made a video on the incredible war crime that was operation keelhaul.

    • @Engineer1897
      @Engineer1897 Год назад +1

      Maybe he doesn't feel comfortable doing that, because he's British

  • @pesnevim1626
    @pesnevim1626 2 года назад +11

    I have a Czech friend whose uncle was in the SS. Also I have a Ukrainian friend whose great uncle was in the SS. Both of these guys are blonde and blue eyed, so I think often there was an ethnic element going on.

    • @rhysnichols8608
      @rhysnichols8608 Год назад +17

      Or it could be the simple fact blonde and blue was a pretty common European genetic trait?

    • @friedrichbaeker
      @friedrichbaeker Год назад +3

      Is this a real thinking human that believes in the Blonde hair blue eyes thing

  • @ScorchedEarth-cd5cl
    @ScorchedEarth-cd5cl 2 года назад +6

    Watch the 1991 documentary Unquiet Graves, to understand why many of them joined the German army and Waffen SS.

  • @crossroads670
    @crossroads670 2 года назад +1

    Can you do a video on Operation Bernhard?