How Strong is Alastor Actually?| POWERSCALING Hazbin Hotel
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Ok let me addess some issues I have with this video. (No hate):
- first off: the "he beat overlords" we don't know how he beat them. Husker was an overlord once but adam defeated him through gambling, which proved that he didn't fight every sinner in hand to hand.
- the Vox battle is in ths same boat. We don't know what their fight was, maybe a popularity contest? Or a selling contest? We don't know, Vox is an CEO after all, and alastor himself even admitted that and I quote "he asked me to join his team, I said no and now he is pissy" so before we don't have a showing how their fight looked like, we can't scale them properly.
- Also saying he scales to Vox pseudo teleportation is kinda wrong. It's like saying everyone who fought someone with teleportation scales e.g. to infinite speed. Which is wrong.
- the adam fight: while alastor was a bit quicker than Adam, he wasn't "massively faster" than Adam. Adam could dodge, react and attack alastors attacks. Adam was only hit when used a sheer number of summoning or a sneak attack with his shadow thing. And before people say "Alastor hold bavk" there is a huge difference between "not going all out" and "holding back". Alastor intended to kill adam but was cocky, this is not going all out. Also adam didn't go all out as well. People who argue against it, think alastor would have won against adam.
- A huge misconception is that Alastors Deal makes him weaker but people never think about it. Why should a deal make him weaker? What does he gain from that? "Pulling all the strings" and "clipping his wings" could also mean that he could betray them all after he gains his freedom, he is an manipulator after all.
- saying that the musicals are reality warping...yeah, no. By that logic, everyone in their who makes a musical cam reality warp. Angel, Husker, Adam, Charlie etc. This is just Broadway force. Also his reality warping is bare minimum at best or not reality warping at all.
So yeah, those are points lol
For your last point the only characters that have ever done reality warping in songs are Lucifer (he turns one of Charlie’s pets into a powerful key thing), Alastor, and Charlie, since all three of them are magic users as stated by Vivziepop (Lucifer wasn’t stated but we do see it in the show) and thus have reality warping feats without it just being broadway force. Also, Alastor has performed other RW feats outside of musicals like making a bottle of booze appear out of thin air and changing the hotel sign from “happy” to “hazbin”
@@yowussup321 Those are like really low tier reality warping feats at best. While others have been confirmed to be magic users, what about Husk? He can make cards explode without any confirmed magic statements but it's clearly shown he can. What about Valentino? He has smoke manipulation, doesn't that count as magic? Vox can teleport as electricity. What about Adam? He can create things out of thin air as well like a paper, his guitar, transmute that even from guitar to paper, can teleport things , doesn't that count as magic? Also Alastor has never shown any reality warping feats in combat. Also creating booze out of thin air is no reality warping, that's what called "Creation" feats. Also changing a logo from happy to Hazbin looks more like transmutation to me because reality warping are far more than that. Time manipulation, casualty manipulation, every power that exists. So by that logic, everyone actually has reality warping to some low level extent. Alastor also doesn't fight with those things. He uses his shadows, minions and tentacles to fight. Not through reality warping.
Also like I said, even if we give Alastor reality warping, that's like really, really low level reality warping. Kinda like Gear 5 being low low level toon force.
Where is that statement anyway from viv?
@@TheVeryFirstYapper Viv statement is from this stream ruclips.net/user/livefvEU9NOokPM?si=6lWp58ci2lGGbjbO also yeah ur right I forgot about guys like Vox Valentino Adam and Overlord Husk tho those are mainly overlords/high ranks in heaven/hell, not many other people do something similar when singing in songs Angel Rosie Carmilla Vaggie etc
@@yowussup321 Thanks. Yeah I know that those are overlords and high ranking but my point still stands. They have magic powers without being stated having magic powers. But magic is no guarantee. For example Rosie has no magic feats even tho she is an overlord, Carmilla has nothing shown even tho being an overlord and zestial has nothing much shown except creating a cup of tea.
I think he uses his wits to punch above his weight class like when he beat Husk at gambling
Adam beat alaster, alaster couldn’t hurt him and got one shot. Also the Vees are new to hell,
Alastor could've probably beaten Adam if he had just swallowed is pride and used an angelic weapon
He hurt adam but not like make him bleed more like trow him against metal wall and i thin alastor now is overrated but maybe in the future because he is vizipop favorite character one of the strongest
I’ve been waiting for this
I agree with this analysis, it is accurate.
Use of power scale other IPs as well. Here are some suggestions. Tmnt. Sonic. Mlp. Scp. Ghostbusters. Friday the 13th.
Yo this is actually some really solid scaling, tho Imo City Level AP is a bit of a Low Ball. I made a video scaling Alastor a few days ago if you want to check that out. Tho you did cover something I didn't, and that being Vox traveling through Electricity. I honestly forgot he could do that, so I just placed Alastor at Massively Hypersonic. Still tho, great vid!
Scale Cyn from Murder drones
she's like in the Planetary-Large star level ranges with arguably ftl speeds
Honestly hes overatted in the fandom, but also underatted within the show. He is one of the most powerful overlords and had so many deals hes dealt with and ended (husk being his survivor i guess), and has a lot of skill in fighting. But hes not stronger than Lucifer. Hes not stronger than Adam (proven in the show despite his speed and wits) and he is not stronger than the deadly sins or goetias (Im looking at you hazbin fandom. You piss me tf off with that).
He is a good and powerful character, but he also can be weak to those who have more power and superioty. He takes over the fear scale but those that are stronger than him easily counter that.
people forget that he's literally just a sinner lol. Sure he got some battle iq and what not and killed some overlords but that's literally nothing to the deadly sins or other higher ups. Lucfier didn't even know he had a radio broadcast, he simply isn't all that, not even in his own verse. It just is what it is. If he was that much of a badass I'm sure the sins, goetias and lucifer would have at least heard him from somewhere but they don't give a damn. He's strong yes but he isn't up there.
@@v_AsT exactly! I wasn't surprised when lucifer had never heard of him cause no matter what he's still a sinner and is less likely to climb any rank in hell past overlord
@@v_AsT The reason Lucifer doesn't know who Alastor is is because he is a hands-off king who doesn't want to associate himself with the sinners and politics of the place he rules. As prideful as Lucifer may be, he hates the fact that he is king of hell.
@@Bexided true but that doesnt really disprove how I alastor simply isn't all that. He's way to overrated.
@@v_AsT And I agree. He's powerful but there are other characters who are stronger and the fandom overrates him a lot. I was just explaining to you the reason why Lucifer didn't know who Alastor was, since Lucifer spends a lot of his time inside.
I have a feeling that Alastor will get stronger. He is still in a deal that weakened his powers. But this is a bit of a theory that Alastor has two deals on himself. One is Lilith since they both disappeared at the same time. And another one he made before arriving in hell, this would explain why he was so powerful when he first arrived in hell.
Loved the video, great scaling. Just cut down on the "basically" lol
Yeah thats a skibidi toilet victim tbh
He’s not
any titan would one tap him tbh
@@mazine.8443 "He's outta line but he's right"
-Sam Wilson 2023
Brainrot...
Are you ok?
When you gonna scale Lucifer
He also has immortality type 1,4 as sinners can regenerate from purely there souls and death manip from the a day in the life comic
Still a death victim I got death higher than city level
Obviously I also have him higher
xD
Death is barely wall level. Debate me.
@@TL3EN309 Sure lol we can discuss this cas8828
@@SovereignAbyssal Just go watch Alterna video about him. That's literally It.
@@TL3EN309You just said Death didn't get past wall 😭
Bro you should scale some creepypasta and also what's your favorite hazbin hotel character my favorite is alastor and love your videos❤
@@abdulqadirsaif2336 vox
Same Alastor is my favourite…Vox is in my Top 3 or Top 5
Valentino is underrated asf tho
@ShadowBear4670 He's honestly up there with Adam and Sir Pentious for being the funniest character in the show
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@@Insxnity_Official Ty so much I’ll pay you 1000 skidbidi dollars
@@Im_unknown871 🤑🤑🤑🤑
Scale homelander next or sm
scale Mr.puzzles from SMG4 next.
He’s most likely low multiversal via creating the tv void which contains 999 channels which appear to be universes
So in short:alastor is a Steven universe victim
Uzi doorman victim
You good to know unknown. Ik do debate not even.
Off topic, although it's possible that Steve (MC not creative mode) can be scaled to Extraversal.
Alastor gets negged by everyone that is above Building level
Peak
Alastor was stated to be comparable to Stolas, who has large island level feat.
@@Based_Commenter wasn’t it recalled to small city level though
@@camerontaylor2184 No, it has a calc that places it at island and another one at large island
@@Based_Commenter ok the one I’m talking about is the cloud manipulation in the harvest moon festival witch one are you talking about
@@camerontaylor2184 That's what I'm talking abt
@@Based_Commenter well that’s the one that got redone apparently the island level one was done with a ether wrong or outdated method though it is vs battle wiki so I’ll look into it
Finally you start scaling other verses than fnaf, Horror next?
Also teleportation≠speed
Just because your PHYSICALLY stronger then someone that does not automatically means he’s faster also Adam is way stronger then alastor did you not see the fight? Also the light attacks got debunked to hypersonic+ it does not scale as fast as light. Adam was in rage in rage and not thinking he was just swinging. His light laser ≠ swinging guitar speed that’s dumb that makes no sense
@@freddystudios661
1.Already made another point about how vox scales do electricity in general and I argued how by the narrative that’s not necessarily a teleportation and even then doesn’t refute anything I’ve presupposed
2.when did I say physically I mentioned how Alastor scales “completely” and overall above vox by that narrative in context of that lmao idk what your mentioning about W Strawmen
3.adam used an attack that more so blinded and distracted alastor to give him an advantage and other than that instance alastor was pissing on him the entire fight
And they aren’t hypersonic + idk where that came from other than vsbw but thanks you have no brain cell to trust completely in that
4.he never raged and that needs proof and let’s say that is true that has nothing to with anything and we should still powerscale off that aspect
5.no that wouldn’t work and the swinging speed doesn’t refute anything alastor is still shown to be faster than his perception and out pacing his movements his guitar has nothing to with anything and that’s more a cherry picking fallacy
Thanks for the entertaining comment you dumb fuck
_unknown871 is my discord and we can debate it further there I will not be responding as it be a waste on incompetent dumbasses like you
@@Im_unknown871 my guy you can scale above the person your stronger then in the terms of STRENGTH 💀💀💀 that does not mean you outscale in every category stupid head💀 alastor does not even have a single speed feat also prove Adam blind him?? His perception got blitzed meaning Adam is faster and just because I swing something that has light in it does not mean the swing scales to the light . Also Adam was in rage you can tell when he was swinging YOUR DUMB lack of proof is insane he ain’t distract him even if he did that still does not prove he’s faster then Adam what are you talking about ??? By your logic a flashlight being swing by someone trying to hit the other person is faster than light since it’s light in the flash light see how it makes no sense??? Sense?? Alastor was directly looking at Adam when the light was happening he couldn’t react to it and mind you that light is not even light speed it got debunked to hypersonic+ and the blackout is ass he’s connected to the city power if he cause’s a black light that does not scale to his AP also prove Adam scale to his light that’s hypersonic
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Being stronger does not make you faster then your opponent 💀💀
Strength≠speed and I wouldn’t say he’s MASSIVELY stronger. Just stronger than vox that’s it. And for Adam he did not even blind him alastor still used his eys after saying “what just happened” he got speed blitzed the glaze is insane like bro is still a bill cipher Victim at the end of the day and I’ll debate you on that too
W scale, but I have two questions:
1.) Do you think Prime Alastor (before his deal) would beat Adam?
2.) People say that Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss is 4D via the statement of hell and heaven being beyond the living world (world in this context means universe), do u think that’s valid?
@@yowussup321 1.city + and MFTL
2.5d,the portal was stated stated extra dimensional towards hell
@@Im_unknown871 No, my first question was do u think Alastor before his deal would beat Adam?
@@yowussup321 ohhh my bad misread yeah probably maybe idk
@@Im_unknown871you can explain better the 5D portals?
@@I_make_editz-k6n literally the portal that was used in helluva boss was stated to be extra dimensional in order to reach hell,simple
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Dubs Goatknown alastor is the goat
0 chance Alastor could beat Adam even in his prime Adam is just way too high on the hierarchy
Hierarchy means nothing. Especially in Hellaverse. Stolas is considered more powerful than Alastor and yet he gets tortured, would have died if not for his wife changing her mind. And who would have killed him? The lowest of the lows on that hierarchy. An imp.
It’s really about intelligence, connections and determination that determines who wins. Alastor could have folded Adam in the first seconds of their fight as his tendrils get multiple hits and his dolls climb on Adam. Hell! He practically had Adam wrapped around in his tendrils. If he hasn’t let his ego win he could have armed them with angelic steel- either attacks.
Instead he decided to play with his food. He was making a fool out of Adam while making himself seem untouchable. It was like, he was saying to hell, “THIS is the all-powerful guy you all fear?” .. and for that he paid the price; as while he might have perceived Adam’s anger and predicted his moves, he didn’t completely comprehend Adams raw power and weaponry.
The hierarchy is based on political power not fighting power
so he basically is a skibidi toilet victim
@@Danilo-tk1tj skibidi toilet has no good scaling
Yeah
@@Im_unknown871what the heck man
@Rat478 he is not wrong
@@Im_unknown871 Skibidi toilet has multiple mountain+ lvl scalings
verse gets negged by puyo puyo satan+W video
Does anyone know where does doctor bright (scp foundation full power) scale I’m very curious
Lord Hater Still Slam
great scaling but where does he scale you didn't say?
@@Bleachedbonnie_Official I meant to say city level and FTl speed
@@Im_unknown871 not gonna lie the final episode and ep 2 came in clutch with feats
@@Im_unknown871when has he shown an FTL feat💀💀
@@freddystudios661 idk, bro is using vsbattles wiki and thinks he's right :skull:
@@TL3EN309 💀💀💀fr
Still a springtrap victim
Springtrap wall level 💀
@@OyunPedia11 no
@@OyunPedia11 No he's not💀☠Stop assuming things bucko
@@javaykirk2688 Reasons?
@@OyunPedia11having feats that gets him there,I have scale videos on my channel for fnaf characters that gets em higher 😊
You gonna scale lucifer, also this is obvious who wins lucifer vs alastor?
@@Cosmicangel36 maybe and Lucifer packs up currently
But could he beat Mario and Luigi from the RPG series?
No
I have no words....when you svale by vsbattle wiki,it shows its cap,trust me,I say this by experience,domt trust their scaling over character's, and also alastor doesnt have reality bending abilties,changing hotel vast clothes isnt a volid reason,thats just swthinf to entertain the audience,at best he is street level,and vox turning off rhe electrocity is just hax
Watch your opinion on the fnaf movie.
@@theeraddicatorsoffical6134 it’s decent
Horrible show
@@Goji-C NOT SIGMA,Atleast say vox is best character?
Agreed
I agree that it’s a bad show
Peak