Random X Y shifting? Make sure your entire dust collector hose is grounded from spindle/router back to the DC on a ground screw, housing or something similar. Static is notorious for screwing up the steppers momentarily.
I don't own a cnc yet, but I am seriously thinking about it. I'm a retired IT manager and one thing I can tell you is static is like your issue. I agree with previous comments that everything should be grounded. I used to service computers in metalworking machine shops and I always recommended I stalling ups systems on the computers. This will help guard against static and power fluctuations.
@@gerrysherman2007 That's good to know. I can see that being an issue, so I'll research the best ways to correct that. Thankfully, the only times it's happened has been on pine or mdf, and not walnut.
Might want to add some extra EMI filters on the router and shop vac as well - mechanically commutated motors like that are inherently electrically noisy.
Well said. i've had my journeyman X50 for alittle over 2 years. Although i haven't used it as much as i would like to cause of work etc , i wouldn't trade it for anything. Haven't encountered any problems. I've now retired and have big plans now that winter weather is on it's way, but being a fellow Kentuckian you never know what you're going to get. Enjoy all your content, keep it coming.
I also have the One Finity Woodworker x50. Great machine. Keep sharing your projects and insights. Appreciate you are not "pushing" tools like some channels do.
I upgraded my cnc with a spindle and will never go back to a router. Full setup is under $400 and worth every penny! So much more power and adjustable spindle speed is awesome. I can easily cut aluminum . Great review!
@@scott-lc8xc The Z20 is a larger ZAxis that will hold an 80mm spindle. I made a video showing my upgrade. Here it is. ruclips.net/video/VoEX3INybbQ/видео.html
I ate through a Makita palm router after about 10 hours of work and Makita gave me a tremendous hassle to replace it. Have now gone through 2 Makita's and no matter how tight I tightened the bit, it would work itself loose and ruin the project, so I went with a Dewalt and it's going strong after 2 years of use.
I've had my Onefinity for right at a year now, and I've had no issues at all with it. I would highly recommend the spindle over a router to save your hearing and avoid having to build an enclosure.
This is the kind of review I like. Unsolicited, first hand knowledge with the good AND THE BAD! Too often I see people post nothing but the good things about the products they buy. Not asking that people bash a product or company, just that they give all the info they can do people can make the best decision they can. On a side note, when onefinity makes it possible, you should really upgrade to the elite... IT'S AWESOME!! I have the elite woodworker and love it!
Appreciate that. I have no problem with doing sponsored videos, but I've made a commitment to myself that I'll never shill products. If I'm doing a review, I'm gonna be objective. And I'd like to do an upgrade at some point. I'm actually in the process of upgrading to a spindle this weekend, but the Elite may be a little ways off.
Great info, Damien. I have the Onefinity X-50 Journeyman for about 18 months and a smaller NextWave Piranha Fx for 4+ years. I think your Onefinity assessment is very close to my experience with it. The Journeyman is much better than the Piranha, and the price tag is about 3x, the speed is 3x, and the carving footprint is about 10x. Both are very nice machines, and within their budgets, both are very good values. The Piranha was by my own definition a starter machine and, well, I've moved on from it unless I've needed to run both for time savings. For the dust boot, I'm a fan of Nick Nofsinger's NightHawk. I've also had the Onefinity Y axis lose steps like you mentioned. The one time where I happened to be staring at it (and filming it) as it happened was when I was cutting cedar near the limit of the machine's speed (roughly 360 ipm). I dialed it back about 20% and reran the program (about 10 more times) and never saw the issue again. I'll try to share a link to it under this since most folks don't allow links in the comments.
Very timely video for me since I am looking at the Elite Foreman and just found your last video on this model. I appreciate the honest review and it sounds like you are still pretty happy with the purchase.
View #2! 😂🤣 I love your review. I've been wondering if I might get a Onefinity as my second machine (I have a Sienci Longmill as my first one). Thanks for the insight!
I appreciate your updated review on the onefinity. It still seems to be the best value of a sturdy, plug and play machine. In regards to the router, that same motor design is all over the place; harbor freight makes one (bauer), as does carbide 3d. For a while amazon had them on sale for $73, so I grabbed three of them. I figure by the time I burn through those, I'll probably be ready for a spindle upgrade anyway. Worth noting that right now, onefinity is giving a year of carveco maker, the wireless gamepad and the touch probe for free with their machines. I'm with you in that CNC woodworking is still woodworking, it just requires a different skillset with some overlap of other woodworking types, much like hand tool woodworking vs power tool woodworking. I don't think you mentioned it, but IMHO, dust collection is a must. I bought a fein turbo I I caught on sale for $175 for the onefinity and use a dust deputy with it so the bag and filter won't need to be changed for probably a few years. The issue you had may have had to do with EMI; anti static is worth the investment. Again, your updated review is appreciated, thanks for posting.
You’re not the first to mention static, and that makes perfect sense. I’m working on shop upgrades in the coming months, so it’s definitely something to correct.
Thank you for your review that is not sponsored. I think every machine occasionally has issues just like anything motorized. I’m a female CPA who loves woodworking and I was debating between the Onefinity and Shapeoko. I’m 99% sold on the Onefinity. Keep the videos coming
The XY shifting is most likely due to your stepper motors losing steps. It can be because they move too fast, hit a temporary workload higher than the can withstand, set for too high micro-stepping, or a combination of booth. It's work checking if the controller is setup with the correct current for the stepper motors.
That stepping over must be something like a loose wire or screw or electric power issue the program doesn’t change . Those are problems I remember from running CNC for years the screen going out after many years of use was not uncommon . I’ve never seen one go off track like that .Usually they work perfect 95% of the time or it’s a mechanical wear problem or the part moved over . I was always amazed how reliable the programming was more so than the operator or programmer. Thanks for sharing I’ve been thing about getting a onefinity . 👍
I'm looking in pulling the trigger on one in the next few days. Thanks for the heads up on the router discount. It is expensive, but hopefully it'll pay off. Thanks for the review.
I bought mine from the kickstarter. Onefinity don't like to sell you replacement parts. I contacted them to buy a replacement for the touch screen. (in past i had to deal with support for replacing power switch's they was good then, Something changed...) After 3 days of fighting with support i bought the part on amazon and had to wait 2 months for the part to come in. But i will say the CNC does run good still. I run a job on it about 1-3x a week. maintain it every 100hours, easy. But if i had to do it again i would check out that Altmill or even the longmill a bit more. it might become my 2nd CNC (The Altmil) after My Onefinity CNC going down for over 2 months for replacement screen made me realize a backup CNC is needed. My Onefinity was down for October, November and part of December really bad part of the year for a CNC to go down.
regarding the issue, have you checked if there is a requirement to run the controller on an isolated circuit, to reduce induced electrical noise. This may be the cause of the xy shift you mention. Check with Onefinity too. They may be able to guide you right away. Any axes shift would be a bummer. Great video, btw!
It's not happened since. Someone mentioned that it could have been a static electricity discharge coming from my dust hose, and I've researched it and that seems like a likely culprit.
As other have suggested it could be that your steppers loose count and the controller misinterprets the position by one full turn. I don't know if the encoders are single or multi turn.
I have had that random shifting on my shapeoko as well. Happens when I do 3d carving and with a recent update to software I am cutting deeper than my design. I think it's a software issue with VCarve Pro.
I am a Journeyman Machinist and I never got into the CNC realm of it I've been a machinist for about 47 years and a woodworker for about 50 years. I see the value of it but I can't call it machining only because the machine's computer is doing all the heavy work and you are only there to put in the piece of material yes you design it on the computer but that's as far as it goes When I use to work on a piece I had to take raw material design the part and actually set it up and machine it. Yes the computer is faster and in most cases more accurate but it is doing all the work, not the button pusher.
Yup. Had mine for 2.5 years. Good old lost xy that they can't figure out and always blame on electrical noise (cop out) I am at the point where I added solar so I have extra breaker spaces. I have control box, router and dust collection each on their very own outlet and breaker and I still randomly get this problem.
Doesnt matter if its on dedicated outlets. The system needs to be on the same ground plain. Take a meter and check to see if things are actually grounded to the panel. Mine was randomly stopping every other project due to the vacuum static. Youll notice the Makita routers are only a 2 prong ungrounded motor. Ground the housing clamp its in. I grounded everything together and have not had a fault since. The painted router mounts do not allow for grounding to the router. Make sure everything is grounded with a wire all the back to the breaker panel box or it wont work.
@@mikehanna1948 Sure thing. It really depends on your needs. The larger beds allow you to do larger projects and batch out more projects, and you can also upgrade to a spindle, which is what I'm planning, to keep the router from overheating and wearing out.
@@SothpawDesigns Thank you for your reply..but I am not getting the info...I have an American made CNC here with me in Indonesia...and I want to compare your cnc with mine, just for my personal evaluation...
I love unsponsored reviews like this... as opposed to "Company XYZ just sent me a free piece of equipment that's worth four thousand dollars. It's the best ever and you to buy one right away using my sponsored link." If it's any consolation, my FoxAlien Vasto randomly jumps on the X or Y axis as well. It's extremely rare and unexplained (not to mention infuriating), but it happens.
I'm not above accepting free stuff for honest reviews, but I don't like the idea of becoming a pitchman. That said, I'm not enough of an authority or personality where that's even a possibility. Many have said that the jump could be caused by static electricity on my dust collection hose, which makes sense.
@@SothpawDesigns I'm actually thinking about upgrading my FoxAlien for a larger OneFinity; specificly the Elite 48"x32" Journeyman. My Vasto is 17"x17" and just a hair too small for doing juice grooves in my larger cutting boards. Thanks again for the honest review.
Random XY shifting is a big NO for me. It is a machine you can`t trust. No problem with a simple sign or cheap materials, but imagine carving a big block of oak with hundreds of thousands of code lines and you never know if the machine is going to do something crazy. The open ball screw is a bad design too, no matter how good the suction system you will get dust on the screws and it will work its way into the bearings.
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Random X Y shifting? Make sure your entire dust collector hose is grounded from spindle/router back to the DC on a ground screw, housing or something similar. Static is notorious for screwing up the steppers momentarily.
That's a good point..... I hadn't thought of that.
@@SothpawDesignsAlso make sure things are on separate circuits. The rule of thumb is no electric motors on the same circuit as electronics.
I don't own a cnc yet, but I am seriously thinking about it. I'm a retired IT manager and one thing I can tell you is static is like your issue. I agree with previous comments that everything should be grounded. I used to service computers in metalworking machine shops and I always recommended I stalling ups systems on the computers. This will help guard against static and power fluctuations.
@@gerrysherman2007 That's good to know. I can see that being an issue, so I'll research the best ways to correct that. Thankfully, the only times it's happened has been on pine or mdf, and not walnut.
Might want to add some extra EMI filters on the router and shop vac as well - mechanically commutated motors like that are inherently electrically noisy.
Well said. i've had my journeyman X50 for alittle over 2 years. Although i haven't used it as much as i would like to cause of work etc , i wouldn't trade it for anything. Haven't encountered any problems. I've now retired and have big plans now that winter weather is on it's way, but being a fellow Kentuckian you never know what you're going to get. Enjoy all your content, keep it coming.
I love mine. It's opened so many doors and been an incredibly valuable tool in my shop.
I also have the One Finity Woodworker x50. Great machine. Keep sharing your projects and insights. Appreciate you are not "pushing" tools like some channels do.
Thanks, will do! Appreciate the support!
I upgraded my cnc with a spindle and will never go back to a router. Full setup is under $400 and worth every penny! So much more power and adjustable spindle speed is awesome. I can easily cut aluminum . Great review!
I’m in the process of a spindle upgrade now too. Can’t wait!!
@@SothpawDesignsYou’ll never go back now!
@@5280Woodworking My spindle was delivered this week. As soon as my new Z20 comes in, I'll be ready to rock!
Which Spindle did you go with? What is a Z20? TIA
@@SothpawDesigns
@@scott-lc8xc The Z20 is a larger ZAxis that will hold an 80mm spindle. I made a video showing my upgrade. Here it is. ruclips.net/video/VoEX3INybbQ/видео.html
I ate through a Makita palm router after about 10 hours of work and Makita gave me a tremendous hassle to replace it. Have now gone through 2 Makita's and no matter how tight I tightened the bit, it would work itself loose and ruin the project, so I went with a Dewalt and it's going strong after 2 years of use.
I've had my Onefinity for right at a year now, and I've had no issues at all with it. I would highly recommend the spindle over a router to save your hearing and avoid having to build an enclosure.
I actually just ordered a spindle
You have a great personality and presentation style.
This is the kind of review I like. Unsolicited, first hand knowledge with the good AND THE BAD! Too often I see people post nothing but the good things about the products they buy. Not asking that people bash a product or company, just that they give all the info they can do people can make the best decision they can. On a side note, when onefinity makes it possible, you should really upgrade to the elite... IT'S AWESOME!! I have the elite woodworker and love it!
Appreciate that. I have no problem with doing sponsored videos, but I've made a commitment to myself that I'll never shill products. If I'm doing a review, I'm gonna be objective. And I'd like to do an upgrade at some point. I'm actually in the process of upgrading to a spindle this weekend, but the Elite may be a little ways off.
Great info, Damien. I have the Onefinity X-50 Journeyman for about 18 months and a smaller NextWave Piranha Fx for 4+ years. I think your Onefinity assessment is very close to my experience with it. The Journeyman is much better than the Piranha, and the price tag is about 3x, the speed is 3x, and the carving footprint is about 10x. Both are very nice machines, and within their budgets, both are very good values. The Piranha was by my own definition a starter machine and, well, I've moved on from it unless I've needed to run both for time savings. For the dust boot, I'm a fan of Nick Nofsinger's NightHawk. I've also had the Onefinity Y axis lose steps like you mentioned. The one time where I happened to be staring at it (and filming it) as it happened was when I was cutting cedar near the limit of the machine's speed (roughly 360 ipm). I dialed it back about 20% and reran the program (about 10 more times) and never saw the issue again. I'll try to share a link to it under this since most folks don't allow links in the comments.
No joy with the link 🙂
Email it to me, and I'll post it in the description. dlaymonky@gmail.com
Very timely video for me since I am looking at the Elite Foreman and just found your last video on this model. I appreciate the honest review and it sounds like you are still pretty happy with the purchase.
Just set up my Elite Forman and so far so good. all in you will drop about 5k but worth every penny!
I’m actually upgrading to the elite, just waiting on it to arrive. CAN’T WAIT!
View #2! 😂🤣 I love your review. I've been wondering if I might get a Onefinity as my second machine (I have a Sienci Longmill as my first one). Thanks for the insight!
Love it!!! Thanks for the support!
I appreciate your updated review on the onefinity. It still seems to be the best value of a sturdy, plug and play machine.
In regards to the router, that same motor design is all over the place; harbor freight makes one (bauer), as does carbide 3d. For a while amazon had them on sale for $73, so I grabbed three of them. I figure by the time I burn through those, I'll probably be ready for a spindle upgrade anyway. Worth noting that right now, onefinity is giving a year of carveco maker, the wireless gamepad and the touch probe for free with their machines.
I'm with you in that CNC woodworking is still woodworking, it just requires a different skillset with some overlap of other woodworking types, much like hand tool woodworking vs power tool woodworking.
I don't think you mentioned it, but IMHO, dust collection is a must. I bought a fein turbo I I caught on sale for $175 for the onefinity and use a dust deputy with it so the bag and filter won't need to be changed for probably a few years.
The issue you had may have had to do with EMI; anti static is worth the investment.
Again, your updated review is appreciated, thanks for posting.
You’re not the first to mention static, and that makes perfect sense. I’m working on shop upgrades in the coming months, so it’s definitely something to correct.
Cracker video from somebody who is actually doing it! Really great presentation thank you!
Liked & Subscribed.
Much appreciated!
Thank you for your review that is not sponsored. I think every machine occasionally has issues just like anything motorized. I’m a female CPA who loves woodworking and I was debating between the Onefinity and Shapeoko. I’m 99% sold on the Onefinity. Keep the videos coming
Thanks for watching!
Nice cnc info, my Onefinity is 10 months old and going strong.
Excellent! Love to hear it!
The XY shifting is most likely due to your stepper motors losing steps. It can be because they move too fast, hit a temporary workload higher than the can withstand, set for too high micro-stepping, or a combination of booth.
It's work checking if the controller is setup with the correct current for the stepper motors.
Also, if stepping is set to the wrong hi vs low stepping. Another really common thing is a loose drive coupler.
Good call.
That stepping over must be something like a loose wire or screw or electric power issue the program doesn’t change . Those are problems I remember from running CNC for years the screen going out after many years of use was not uncommon . I’ve never seen one go off track like that .Usually they work perfect 95% of the time or it’s a mechanical wear problem or the part moved over . I was always amazed how reliable the programming was more so than the operator or programmer. Thanks for sharing I’ve been thing about getting a onefinity . 👍
I'm looking in pulling the trigger on one in the next few days. Thanks for the heads up on the router discount. It is expensive, but hopefully it'll pay off. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for watching! Hope you have great success with it! I love mine.
Thanks!
I bought mine from the kickstarter. Onefinity don't like to sell you replacement parts. I contacted them to buy a replacement for the touch screen. (in past i had to deal with support for replacing power switch's they was good then, Something changed...) After 3 days of fighting with support i bought the part on amazon and had to wait 2 months for the part to come in. But i will say the CNC does run good still. I run a job on it about 1-3x a week. maintain it every 100hours, easy. But if i had to do it again i would check out that Altmill or even the longmill a bit more. it might become my 2nd CNC (The Altmil) after My Onefinity CNC going down for over 2 months for replacement screen made me realize a backup CNC is needed. My Onefinity was down for October, November and part of December really bad part of the year for a CNC to go down.
regarding the issue, have you checked if there is a requirement to run the controller on an isolated circuit, to reduce induced electrical noise. This may be the cause of the xy shift you mention. Check with Onefinity too. They may be able to guide you right away. Any axes shift would be a bummer. Great video, btw!
It's not happened since. Someone mentioned that it could have been a static electricity discharge coming from my dust hose, and I've researched it and that seems like a likely culprit.
As other have suggested it could be that your steppers loose count and the controller misinterprets the position by one full turn. I don't know if the encoders are single or multi turn.
Good info; thanks for making the video! I was just looking at the Onefinity's.
Glad I could help!
I have had that random shifting on my shapeoko as well. Happens when I do 3d carving and with a recent update to software I am cutting deeper than my design. I think it's a software issue with VCarve Pro.
Great project and review
Thank you! Cheers!
I am a Journeyman Machinist and I never got into the CNC realm of it I've been a machinist for about 47 years and a woodworker for about 50 years. I see the value of it but I can't call it machining only because the machine's computer is doing all the heavy work and you are only there to put in the piece of material yes you design it on the computer but that's as far as it goes When I use to work on a piece I had to take raw material design the part and actually set it up and machine it. Yes the computer is faster and in most cases more accurate but it is doing all the work, not the button pusher.
Thanks
Yup. Had mine for 2.5 years. Good old lost xy that they can't figure out and always blame on electrical noise (cop out) I am at the point where I added solar so I have extra breaker spaces. I have control box, router and dust collection each on their very own outlet and breaker and I still randomly get this problem.
So I’m not the only one. Thankfully it’s never happened when I’m im two hours deep in an expensive black walnut project, but it’s still frustrating.
@@SothpawDesigns best option so far is xyz probe every bit. I used to only do z for the other bits. Other than that. Good machine. Nice job on vid
Doesnt matter if its on dedicated outlets. The system needs to be on the same ground plain. Take a meter and check to see if things are actually grounded to the panel. Mine was randomly stopping every other project due to the vacuum static. Youll notice the Makita routers are only a 2 prong ungrounded motor. Ground the housing clamp its in. I grounded everything together and have not had a fault since. The painted router mounts do not allow for grounding to the router. Make sure everything is grounded with a wire all the back to the breaker panel box or it wont work.
I’m a newbie, looking to buy a CNC machine and I have been looking at onefinity CNC! What model would you recommend to get started with?
Thanks MikeH
I have the Woodworker x 50. And it works for me. You can get the larger one if you’ll need it, but the prices go up quite a bit. Im happy with the x50
Thanks for your reply!
@@mikehanna1948 Sure thing. It really depends on your needs. The larger beds allow you to do larger projects and batch out more projects, and you can also upgrade to a spindle, which is what I'm planning, to keep the router from overheating and wearing out.
Hello...greetings from a woodwoker in Indonesia...can you tell me how many hours do use the cnc daily or weekly?
Depends on the time of year. I'm a full time teacher, so when school's in session, I work less, but when school is out, I practically live in my shop.
@@SothpawDesigns Thank you for your reply..but I am not getting the info...I have an American made CNC here with me in Indonesia...and I want to compare your cnc with mine, just for my personal evaluation...
Good afternoon
I love unsponsored reviews like this... as opposed to "Company XYZ just sent me a free piece of equipment that's worth four thousand dollars. It's the best ever and you to buy one right away using my sponsored link." If it's any consolation, my FoxAlien Vasto randomly jumps on the X or Y axis as well. It's extremely rare and unexplained (not to mention infuriating), but it happens.
I'm not above accepting free stuff for honest reviews, but I don't like the idea of becoming a pitchman. That said, I'm not enough of an authority or personality where that's even a possibility. Many have said that the jump could be caused by static electricity on my dust collection hose, which makes sense.
@@SothpawDesigns I'm actually thinking about upgrading my FoxAlien for a larger OneFinity; specificly the Elite 48"x32" Journeyman. My Vasto is 17"x17" and just a hair too small for doing juice grooves in my larger cutting boards. Thanks again for the honest review.
1:54 and how exactly do you cut 3 degree angles on a cnc router?
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Random XY shifting is a big NO for me. It is a machine you can`t trust. No problem with a simple sign or cheap materials, but imagine carving a big block of oak with hundreds of thousands of code lines and you never know if the machine is going to do something crazy. The open ball screw is a bad design too, no matter how good the suction system you will get dust on the screws and it will work its way into the bearings.
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