WHY does Lars Ulrich hate ride cymbals?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Have you ever wondered why Lars Ulrich rarely uses ride cymbals in Metallica's music? Join us as we unravel the truth behind Lars' dislike for this iconic drumming element. From the early days of Metallica to their latest albums, witness Lars' evolution as a drummer and understand his unique approach to sound. Don't miss this thought-provoking analysis and make sure to subscribe for more captivating music discussions!
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That bridge on Disposable Heroes is so good. Easily one of Lars’ best grooves.
Called it!!
yes.
Lars doesn’t have any best grooves
@@josephcasanova9346 Wdym? that literally is one of his best grooves.
@@ben1benhe’s being sarcastic by saying Lars isn’t good lol
He doesn't use a ride because he can't play with any finesse. He's all about smash and crash,and that's absolutely ok. Hell,he's in one of the biggest bands ever.
Absolutely thats okay, its just curious is all
That’s what I was going to say. A ride cymbal has to be played very lightly and with musicality or it sounds obnoxious and clangy. It’s not easy to play lightly with the dominant right hand while driving hard with the bass drum and doing a light but high velocity whip crack on the snare. I think you’re right, it does not occur to Lars to use that kind of finesse. It’s very counterintuitive because the one wants to hit hard
@@VARVIS_no it’s not ok buddy.
@@labontetrevorA ride cymbal does not “have to be played very lightly”. If playing it at a medium or loud volume makes it sound bad then it’s not a good ride
Counter argument- Dave Lombardo hits pretty damn hard, and his ride cymbal sounds magical
The fact he doesn't like the ping of ride, yet here we are with St. Anger and its snare with more ping than a faulty internet connection
hahahah exactly
The snare on St. Anger is more of a pounng than a ping though, if we're getting really technical here.
As a drummer, I totally get what he’s saying about the feel of it. I’m just glad that he brought a ride out for Until it Sleeps when they play it live on the current tour
that’s the only song i can remember where he uses one but it sounds good
Good god man shut it
@@stormcorrosion176 I will not be shutting anything. As a matter of fact I’m taking the door off the hinges so it has to stay open 24/7
Yeah i get it as well, sometimes i hit it a bit wrong and it brings me out of the moment and rhythm
I disagree, the feel of a nice ride, something like a K Con or an Istanbul Agop, is a lovely feeling. Perhaps the best feeling item on the drum kit.
The ride is the leading part of the drum set in styles like jazz. It's also a very important part of drumming and the sound it makes is essential to achieving certain sounds. Play it lightly and it's good for gliding through parts of songs. Hit it hard and it has a deep crash sound with a lot of power. Always use a ride kids.
exactly my point. Its one of the most dynamic cymbals one could use
Lots of folks think because it's heavier music you don't use a ride. Now maybe not a simple medium ride. In metal youd use a mega Bell ride.
My rides are my favorite cymbals. Arguably, you can extract more sounds from a ride than any other cymbal. Of course, if you’re just beating the crap out of them, that doesn’t really matter.
I was just thinking, can you imagine guys like Joe Morello, Elvin Jones, or Steve Jordan hearing Lars excuse for not using a ride smdh.🤦🏾♂️
If the sound guy is giving you sass, just crash the ride in retaliation
I never expected my personal question (I am the guy at 0:50) to Lars asking him during the meet and greet why he does not use a ride cymbal would be used anywhere on RUclips. I wonder how you got that footage since the original video of that Meet and Greet is on the Metallica channel, yet unlisted for years.
Still one of my favorite moments of my life to meet Metallica in person, especially Lars because he was one of the reasons I started drumming myself. If you got more questions regarding my meet and greet feel free to fire away.
Sidenote: Last time he used the ride Cymbal if I am correct on studio version was The Unforgiven III on Death Magnetic if I am correct.
Lars uses a ride on their cover of When A Blind Man Cries.
That's awesome! Did you get to ask him any other technical questions?
Did they notify you who from the band will be present on Meet n Greet?
@@ScootyPuff_Jr Oof, not that I remember, been years since the event. The other angle and somewhat longer discussion can be seen here in the unlisted video: ruclips.net/video/rH7hxeGFC5g/видео.html
@@nikitabeskov8357 In the E-mail they say that you will meet a member or members, it is up to the members themselves to show up if they want to and they will show up one by one seperately. I was able to meet everyone but James.
He does bring out the ride cymbal now and then. He used a ride for their 40th anniversary concert for bleeding me, and fixxxer. I've seen him use a ride even after that show, for bleeding me.
I noticed that too. Given that "72 Seasons" has no ride on it, my guess is that the ride only comes out when he plays specific tracks. And thank God for that; I love "Bleeding Me" and "Fixxxer," and they'd sound awful with the china in place of the ride.
Every drummer’s different. Over the decades, The most expected sound of a jazz drummer was the ride cymbal. The hi-hat wouldn’t be played as much, typically because of the style and the overall feel that gives it to certain parts. I don’t think we’d need to go for a scientific explanation about that. He definitely doesn’t like the feel of it and their music doesn’t get affected by it. 😊
The best thing about drums compared to any other instrument is that you can be completely basic with a snare, kick and hi hats or crazy and have a wall of cymbals and toms around you with 6 pedals hitting anything you can imagine
I'm a 4 piece 2 cymbals and a hi hat type of guy lol.
I'm a 4 piece, 2 hi hats and 3 rides type of guy
Ringo did much with little.
Peart did much with much.
I love the ride cymbal I can't understand how he wouldn't like it.
Because he’s a lame drummer at best
He was always so high on coke that the high pitched ping hurt his ears 😂😂
Ikr he should take lessons from the drummer of Exodus.
@@oldskolacura9798Tom Hunting is great. So is Dave Lombardo. They might actually use too much ride, even for me.
what is that you don't understand?
My opinion is that the cymbal he uses now is much louder than a ride cymbal and it’s drowns out a lot of the double bass sound. He can hide behind it
my opinion is that he sucks as a drummer
Wrong.
Okay you win
Agreed.
Yeah agreed he’s the best drummer probably to ever live.
"Until it sleeps" drum beat was so cool when I was a beginner drummer, no way of playing that song without a ride. And yea, ride is not just "ping ping ping", unless it's REALLY thick and heavy, like some Z-Custom ride.
He used a Ride Cymbal when they recorded the Breadfan cover in early 1988 during the mid section of the song.
This was just before they began laying down the justice tracks.
Lars can play a song like back in black and look like he is in the worst pain
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LMFAO
Why lie like that?
@@michaelmorningstar8645 he didn't
😂😂😂😂 made my Friday with this comment. Thank you
Maybe. But I don't see how that's relevant to the video.
Don't know what was Lars thinking but that daemn KEA ride is haunting me for decades, made me eventually pick up drum sticks and buy a drum kit
Same with Phil Rudd… if you don’t need it or just for one song, just hit the bell of a giant Crash
Lars always had 2 hi hats when he had his larger kit with 4 toms up front. When he went to two Toms or like we see today, he added a ride cymbal somewhere between 93-95. The last album to have a ride on his kit permanently was ST.ANGER…although he did most recently have a ride when they played some of the All Within My Hands shows a few years back…
He had a Ride Cymbal since 1981 and only got rid of it in early 1988 after recording Breadfan which was just before they started recording the justice songs. He added the second set of hi-hats and a couple of China cymbals during the Ride the Lightning era.
In an interview with Modern Drummer magazine on June 1987, Lars mentioned that after Metallica finished recording Ride the Lightning, he got a Tama X-Hat mount and used it more than the ride cymbal, as he felt that hi-hats sound a lot heavier.
2:05 Agree to disagree on Garage Inc. I find it to be one of the most fun Metallica albums. Many of the songs were tracked live, so it has the vibe of a “live” album. They were just having fun, not taking themselves so seriously, and enjoying themselves. I think it’s a great listen and most of their cover versions were improvements on the originals and that’s quite rare.
It's one hell of a cover album and it used to be my favorite driving music for quite some time.
Watched him play Unforgiven I with a ride in Hamburg this year. They put the ride to the kit before the song and took it away after it, though 😅
Really he used a Ride in that song? Cool! Do you have any videos? Cheers Brudi
He's done the same for Bleeding me too. He used it for Fixxer and Bleeding me at their 40th anniversary concert.
It sounds like they were trying to mess with him.
@cvarvy no he didn't, Lars played Until it sleeps with the ride. I was there too, but yeah it stayed at his drums for only this song😄
Don't understand why it needs to be placed and then removed for a particular song. Is it really that much of an ordeal for him to just have it set up for the whole show?
Even if he decides not to use it, at least he still has the option to use it.
A think a ride cymbal is an absolute must.I always played the ride more than hats.
Bro 100% it is such a versatile and pleasing sound
It's a good idea to have a ride cymbal for different cymbal variations. You don't always have to use the ride cymbal. But if you are planning on hearing your double bass more clear then the ride cymbal comes in handy.
you think.. ok dude
I play in my Church Band and find myself almost constantly using my medium ride for almost everything. It carries the beat and songs along so smoothly...
That's why they're called ride cymbals. They let the music ride.
Well he was using a ride on S&M too :)
I love the feeling of a ride especially when you treat it like a crash
Same, its my favourite Cymbal easily
When Lars does occasionally use the Ride Cymbal, that's how he plays it.
Thanks for the video
I love all the drumming on Justice and Black, but I remember even back then to think "why he hates the Ride Cymbals??" It's interesting that my other favorite drummer from that time loves the ride, Dave Lombardo.
Yeah its strange how they diverged like that
Interestingly enough, when they recorded the Breadfan cover in early 1988, he used a Ride Cymbal for the mid section. Which technically was at the beginning of the justice sessions.
What's also funny is that Lombardo and Lars are on different planets when it comes to skill on the drums so I guess it is a little odd that one of your favorite drummers is one of the best ever metal drummers and the other is passionately mediocre about his craft.. To each their own though... just interesting..
@@garethmurphy8235 Lombardo wishes he was as good as Lars.
Dave Lombardo is my biggest influence in my playing and I love the fast ping ride in a lot of thrash.
GREAT analysis
Terry Bozzio hasn't used a ride cymbal probably since the Missing Persons records. 40 plus years ago
First song that came to mind after the question was Bleeding Me in SM. Such a nice sounding ride
🤘🎅🤘 Always wondered this
Im glad i got recommended a video bout this . Was wondering for a while why i haven't heard a ride cymbal in a while from Lars, alot of it was on kill em all , for when it was used in Ride the lightning and master of puppets, it was still used awesomely lol. I just love the sound of a good snare , ride and double bass mixture in one when its done right. So damn good. Never saw that clip of someone asking him bout it. I can understand why as a choice if he doesn't use it on newer albums but man i wish he used it on parts of the older songs where he did record em with .
Same, rides go with metal like Peanut butter goes with jam. Great comment
The ride cymbal has evolved over the years. There are plenty of ride cymbals that sound and feel awesome to play.
exactly
UNTIL IT SLEEPS. He used and played it on this new tour. 72 seasons.
Orange, yellow & red are awesome colours for drums to me. Do you know one drummer who play orange drum set ? I only know Tim Alexander of Primus 1992 with orange drums. Tony Williams & Alvin Pintos with yellow drums. And many drummers with red drums. Also my Sonor are red.
As a non-drummer, there's momentum and energy a lightly clasped hi-hat provides that a ride can't replace. There's nowhere in Metallica's music where I say, "He should have used a ride here.", yet when others bands use ride, I don't even question it. It's odd really.
I absolutely agree with this. There's very few times I prefer a ride over hats in metal, it just doesn't carry energy the same way.
Yeah I was just trying to think of a spot for a ride in Metallica and couldnt
It's for dynamics really, gives the hi-hat adrenaline fueled parts more impact.
Funny you bring that up. I find myself using the ride cymbal far less than I want to when playing metal, and using the crash for timekeeping during the choruses.
He had his ride back on for Hamburg in the M72 Tour for Until it Sleeps
Until It Sleeps is the only song I hear a ride cymbal
My PTSD is kicking in, just the mention of St. Anger gives me anxiety. I’m scarred for life from listening to the snare on that album. They should have mixed the snare on that album the way they mixed JN’s bass on Justice, except a few db’s less than that. Maybe even 10 db’s less than that…
😂😂
St.Anger snare one of my favorites
It was meant to sound harsh and industrial. They certainly hit the mark on that point.
@@TheDivergentDrummer It’s disappointingly era specific music. I hate most 90’s music anyway. Just the idea that suddenly musicianship lost out to image. It’s pretty hilarious when the Nirvana crowd dumps on hair metal bands for being so image conscious when guys like George Lynch absolutely shredded and the Breeders literally brought in a band members sister to play guitar - and she’d never played guitar in her life. Bands like Motley Crue dressed up like they were going out for Halloween and Seattle bands dressed up like they were homeless. It’s still an image and a lot of those bands were more image conscious than proficient at playing an instrument. Metallica basically tried to follow the trends. Motley did the same thing, all these bands trying to stay relevant in that era. That’s why Pantera stands out to me, they just did their own thing and it was cool…
@@TheDivergentDrummer yuup every now and then i hope back to that album and the overall dirty gross sound style make me bang my head while driving, it has to be dosed little by little tho😅😂
I can’t believe how much we investigate this band for pretty much everything they do. No other band gets dissected on the level that MetallicA does. Not saying that’s bad, just a weird observation how we obsess over this band.
😂😂😂 so true man.
Actually, it's a very valid question
They're the biggest metal band of all time, wouldn't you want to know why they do what they do?
Megadeth is better
not sure what your point is but ok@@casanovafrankenstein8538
There's ride cymbal on The Memory Remains. In the end. Very noticable and suits that part incredibly.
What about the intro to Unforgiven III?? Or do you think he just lightly taps the crash?
He recently used it just for a live performance of Until it sleeps
I watched a live 2023 video recently where he used a ride. Drum tech tan out and set up the ride quickly, then took it off right after: I think the song was Until it Sleeps.
😂😂😂😂 that is just so extra of him. Like bro 😂
if you want to hear what is possible with a ride cymbal in metal, the album somewhere in time by iron maiden is it. there are crazy ride patterns everywhere. heck, the album begins with a crazy ride cymbal pattern.
I think he has a ride on this last tour on one of the four kits. He uses it on bleeding me and other songs from Load
I actually asked him why he stopped using a ride during a meet&greet 2006...he said it sounded too light and simply not heavy enough for his taste. (I also wanted to know why he wasn't using the 4 high toms anymore as in the early days. he replied that by using 4 toms he'd have the cymbals arranged in a way that would hurt his shoulder while playing)
He says it confusingly, but he means the FEEL of a ping, not the sound. A "ping feel" probably means that he can't "push through" the cymbal, like hats or crashes-- it's a hard surface that bounces the stick back. He wants every cymbal option to have a mushy feeling under his stick.
He recently used a ride on the M72 tour playing a song from Load
Always wanted to hear him play a song using the bell potion of the ride. Like Pantera and other heavy metal band's.
I dont see any cowbell either.
The first band I noticed where the drummer didn't have a ride was The Cure.
His ride cymbal playing on St anger is great and has character . On load and reload too . This guy is underated for sure . Everyone points how bad he is . But he plays with friggin hetfield and locks with him . Same as portnoy with petrucci , dimebag and vinnie .
Speaking of "feel", the feel of his aluminum sticks is completely different than the wood sticks he used pre Load era. Nobody talks about how his playing changed when he made the switch
aluminum sticks suck
lars used a ride heavily in the St. Anger album, except he used it like he uses the china now, and he put it in the same spot as his typical china, which also happens to be the typical place that a ride cymbal goes for most drummers
the cymbal had a dark, washy, heavy sound, so it had the same sort of effect as his china today of sort of just creating a wash of white noise
any time in st. anger you hear the cymbals go out except for a somewhat quiet wash of dark noise, that's him going to the ride cymbal
Cool! I noticed that and put the live version in the video but I didnt know about that
Cheers man
@@VARVIS_ yeah and i edited my post to clarify that i'm referring to the whole St. Anger album and not just the song St. Anger
Until it Sleeps I think is the most recent one that has a prominent ride section?
I thought I was the only person that had ever obsessively taken Mental notes on this lol. He did use a ride on the cover of “When a Blind Man Cries” back around 2011-12.
what I don’t understand is why, when he’s having his drum tech bring it out for the occasional gig that they play Bleeding Me, that it’s not just a mainstay on his kit?? he BARELY uses that 18” floor tom - the one that he calls the “coffee table” 😂 like?? you’ve got the extra hardware, keep the ride in that little nook between the two floor toms
My issues exactly.
he used one on the helping hands from 2022 to play some acoustic songs, when they changed it to electric, they also changed the ride and thats why the china fell (not well installed) when playing lux aeterna on that presentation
Don't know if it has something to do, but maybe the Ahead drumsticks? I've used them for a short time. Not going to criticize it, but it sure doesn't have the same feel, that's for sure.
I haven't used a crash cymbal in years. Use or not use, it's part of your sound.
He usually brings it out to play Until It Sleeps, and you can hear him smashing on the ride cymbal almost like he hates it LOL
I think of a ride as more of a sound for a song. For example I've been using all sizes of crashes as a ride or for the "ride" sound for a long time. For me at least it´s just a way of playing a cymbal to get that so that it serves the song.
He uses it Unforgiven III on Death Magnetic (2008). I have to give it another listen but I swore there another ride cymbal used on that album (Edit) it's only Unforgiven III on that album. It's possibly it's used on Lulu but i'm not brave enough to listen to that again)
😂
i looove the straight ride over the shuffled guitar on four horsemen.. when megadeth played four horsemen live in wacken this year, dirk played it shuffled in perfect synchronicity with the guitar, which is probably technically better, but it didnt hit the same way
Lars uses a Ride still Live everytime they play Bleeding Me and it has always been this way, thats the only reason you have seen his recent kits with a Ride anywhere. The way he played the Ride on Disposable heroes was perfect and so amazing i cant believe Lars came up with that, wish we could hear more of that type drumming from him, but Lars hasnt played like that SINCE 😂😭
Saw them in Montreal in August. Roadie brought out the ride, they played until it sleeps, roadie took the ride away.
@@brinepacer yup
I think it was in St. Anger (based on the rehearsal dvd)
Hey, to some bands it's key and some it isn't which is cool it is a part of every brothers distinct feel and sound or it isnt lol, the ride was an integral part of the late great Vinnie Paul's kit and sound!! He made that crazy beautiful cymbal a major staple of their sound!! It was so heavy and crisp and clear and awesome. Not that I don't love metallicas sound as well!!. and it is missing more than it is present, so I like both ways as both have their place!!!. Got to love creativity
I bet its like his ode to Kieth Moon or something - who didn't use hi hats.
I think its dumb though... compression and release (ying / yang) is part of art which the ride beautifully contrasts with the thrashing abrasive sound of a crash, hats or china. To each their own though.
He also mostly plays with his hi hat fully open. If it works it works I guess.
Ride cymbals definitely feel better with thinner and lighter sticks. I use SD4 Combos and they're thin but very rigid, and even with those the ride cymbals kinda feel rough on the hands for hard hitters. It's like when you hit something super hard with a baseball bat. The reverberation in the bat just hurts, same with rigid sticks and rides.
Still though.. Kinda need that bell somehow.
a lot of the wash hits on st anger were lars hitting a k series ride, and to me it sounded pretty good all things considered
Keith moon had a period where he didnt use a hihat! check out The Who live at the isle of wight
Thank you for making this video. As a drummer myself, I love the ride cymbal and it's essential to my playing. Therefore, I'm one of those who get agitated when Lars doesn't utilize it in his arsenal. Back when I was a noob Metallica fan, I didn't like Kill 'Em All because it felt dated but fast forward now, it's one of my favourite albums mostly because of the number of times Lars used the ride cymbal. When I listen to a Metallica song, I always imagine a part where a ride cymbal kicks in only to find out there isn't any; I get so disappointed. Bad habit but I can't help it! People can say bad things about Load and Reload but those two albums have some great ride cymbal moments like Until It Sleeps, The Memory Remains, and The Unforgiven II.
Ride cymbal will always be my favourite part of drumming, which is why Nicko McBrain (Iron Maiden) and Dave Lombardo (Slayer) are my two favourite drummers just because they spam the ride cymbal like crazy. Sometimes I wish both the band and the producer would urge Lars to do the same.
The irony is that from Death Magnetic onwards, the band was encouraged to get back to their roots when recording those songs. So to me that would imply that Lars brings a Ride Cymbal back into his set-up. Which he clearly didn't do. So essentially he's not really getting back to his roots or looking at the music that inspired him in the early days.
If you have the 2 Disc St Anger - CD + DVD (not my best buy). The DVD part is St Anger played live in its entirety at their HQ. Before Lars goes full Thrash Cymbal, he has a K ride in that place (if memory serves me right). This is probably where he fell out with rides. I preferred it... but that was 20 years ago.
i seen him using a ride for specific songs in the latest tour like for until it sleeps!
Whenever this comes up I think it’s funny how the first two songs ever, Hit The Lights and Four Horseman have a ton of ride in them lol
The ride bell is pretty much a staple in metal......iike the sound of a nylon tip....that really gets good rock spunds on a ride.
I can't quite figure out what sticks he's using. Maybe someone knows. But I know that a lot of times when drummers either use sticks with large tips (B) or even turn them around backward, a ride doesn't sound that great. Maybe he simply doesn't enjoy what is a more subtle cymbal like like a ride when he can wail away on a hat.
Pretty sure he used one while playing Fixxxer live at the 40th Anniversary show
one thing to point out that many don’t realize- he actually used a ride cymbal on the song “remember tomorrow” off the hardwired to self destruct deluxe edition
He had a ride on his kit for the 40th anniversary shows and when Metallica plays Load/ReLoad songs live now, his tech will come on stage a put one on a clamped boom arm lol
Also the Splash cymbal got lost along the way too. The biggest change to Lars sound was when he changed the drum skins to the white, coated heads.
Personally, my most favourite Lars drum sound is on the S&M live album. Clear coat heads, splash and ride cymbal all featured. This was the peak of his sound for my ears.
Everyone was on top form for S&M
@@VARVIS_ No arguments from me 🤘
Spot on. Metallica in their performing prime.
Best drumset ever
@@DruBaGuiCoversterry bozzio wins there buddy
Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory and Meteora albums for the drum part almost every songs are not use a ride cymbal except a song called "A Place For My Head" and the other song called "A.06" or "A-Six (Original Long Version)" the intro of Meteora album that they made it but never put it in the album later on it release on 20th anniversary of the album.
Didn’t he use it for Unforgiven 3? Or was that a different cymbal?
TBH, those Ahead sticks are great but not for a ride. For your wrists the are a little better than the wooden ones with plastic tip. (Hate those). Funny tho, I've wondered this myself a lot too, especially in the 90's. Then the LOADS came, and I was done. I use the Lars Signature sticks myself on my e-kit (with ride!) and that is for me the perfect combination!
Those sticks have more give?
@@VARVIS_ Well, maybe on my rubber Cymbal pads they do. The do absurd the shock better than my regular wooden sticks (Vic Firth SD10).
I understand what he says in the clip, about not liking the feel, because they have a short decay, they feel abrupt. They can make things feel jagged.
He used a ride on the 40th anniversary show in LA
Correction: He does use it on Death Magnetic. Specifically, in The Unforgiven III. You can hear him playing it in 16th notes during the first part of the bridge and the instrumental intro after the orchestral section.
I’m pretty sure he played that part on the bow of a crash, although I could be wrong.
Makes me think of Keith Moon from the who that often didnt have a hihat instead, im not sure whether he used rides im no expert on him but it seems that he often used crash cymbals for a sort of ride playing.
Back in those days they just had cymbals in “medium” or “heavy” and they had to figure out how to use them..
Could you imagine those crash cymbal Parts he plays being played with the ride cymbal? No you can't because that's the way he heard it in his head and that's the better way. Some people just don't like the Ping and they would rather have the heavy washy crash which I agree with
Like in any art, a musician defines himself or herself not only with what he/she does, but also with what he/she doesn't do. You don't hear Johnny Ramone playing 7th chords for example. Developping your own idiom sometimes means setting up limitations.
better question.
when's this last time i listened to pop-tallica?
91/92, i heard the black album and bailed.
Actually last time Lars used a ride cymbal would be St. Anger. He crashed it, but it's a ride cymbal nonetheless (For example verses in Unnamed Feeling. That's a ride cymbal on the record itself). So it's 20 years :D
PS: occasionally when performing Bleeding Me, or when they played Fixxxer live, they bring him a ride cymbal (but I actually think it's a crash cymbal that he uses as ride, but there's visibly an additional one being brought for that song)
as you said using heavy sticks on a ride might be tough on his wrists, lars uses aluminium alloy sticks if im correct
I believe it also has to do with the song’s technically being fast,.playing a ride can linger far to long,..I started playing small crashes 16inch for that reason,..songs were fast so sound had to be there then immediately gone,….ready for the next hit!….X
Lars has actually incorporated the ride on this tour, but only has it added to his kit to play songs like until it sleeps and bleeding me. Then he has his drum tech remove it
He had the ride on until it sleeps in 2023
I can see why he doesn’t use it nowadays. For their 2000s era modern groove metal sound, the ride is not really necessary, compared to say jazz or soft rock. When I played in a similar band I also didn’t bother setting up a ride at live shows. Most of the sounds of a ride you can also get from a big crash anyway, which both of us have in our setup.
Liberty Devito says a ride cymbal is basically like a spare tire on your car.
Sometimes, it's never used.
I’m of the opinion that a ride cymbal sonically does not add anything but static to most songs where the vocals are paramount. The Pastor at a church I play at likes a ride but it just obscures the vocal. IMO
I can see that. At least that is a more nuanced opinion rather than "I dont like ping ping"
I still miss the metallic kit he had on the puppets tour it looked awesome
That was the best kit he ever had.