I’m not kidding, these diagrams are helping me grow so much as a drummer. I’m good enough at learning certain things by ear and can figure out sheet music if I study it long enough. Outside of that I’m strictly a visuals person. Thank you for making these.
Hi Johnny, Thank you. I like the emphasis on the 12 equal pulses instead of thinking in term of beats and subdivisions. You can choose to perceive the pattern over 12, 6, 4 or 3 main beats, it doesn't really matter. Only the interaction between the 4 "rhythm" is characteristic of the main rhythm. I'm working on a whole book and serie of exercises based on this system, i'll post more about in on this channel later on. Happy practice!
Any other system ? What about notating it ? This is the lazy mans way out , and for those who can’t read music . Using notation is the most intuitive “ system “
@@sbirritolearning is easier when you consider how your mind works. Just because some cultures emphasize linear notions of time doesn't make cyclical ones less valid. Also this is a type of notation
0:07 I'm not even one of those 'satisfying things' people, but that sound, especially in the context of winding up an old school metronome, is so freaking satisfying. And the visual is revolutionary metronomotry. Keep up the great work.
oh my god it's so intuitive !! You can hear and work separetly each tom to understand each detail of the rhythm, this is so great !!! thank you a lot !!!
"There once was a word used-swing. Swing went in one direction, it was linear, and everything had to be played with an obvious pulse and that’s very restrictive. If you get a mental picture of the beat existing within a circle, you’re more free to improvise. People used to think the notes had to fall on the center of the beats in the bar at intervals like a metronome, with three or four men in the rhythm section accenting the same pulse. That’s like parade music or dance music. But imagine a circle surrounding each beat-each guy can play his notes anywhere in that circle and it gives him a feeling he has more space. The notes fall anywhere inside the circle but the original feeling for the beat isn’t changed."-Charles Mingus on his ideas relating to swing and what he called, "rotary perception."
Hi Drichardsonsax1, Are you aware of a notation system that show and teach the proper groove ? I'm curious, as I don't know any system able to show "groove".
I'm not a drummer (bassist by trade) and this has me MESMERIZED....the visual reference helps (me anyways) to practice playing off of the drummer's hands/drum-strikes..... SUBSCRIBED!!
Hi Matias, I don't even have a "smartphone" myself. So i'll probably not release an app in a near future :) But i'm working on a very good (i hope...) book for coordination using this visualisation method, as i find it fantastic too ! By the way all credits is due to Godfried T. Toussaint. You can find his amazing book on the video description ! :)
Hi! thank you very much i really appreciate your comment. I'm really glad to know that you find some inspiration to practice more efficiently with "my" tools. Happy practicing !
Well this is a very interesting concept....as a kinasthetic learner, I always need to do the thing though. I find this good for working stuff out. However, I find it as as difficult as reading notation sheet music 😂😂. Overall, it's great and a help for any drummer, thanks 👍
Hi, thank you for your comment. I find this system very helpful to understand rhythm and pattern properties. But to write pieces of music, of course, nothing can come close the the western notation system.
Hi S.P.C, i'm glad you liked it. There's some Afrobeat grooves, Sikyi, Songo, Mozambique & Mambo grooves on the way. I just need to find some time to edit the videos and mix the drums sound. It should not be long.
For me I got comfortable w a few elements at a time. Then switched things around and did different combinations. But it wasn't until I did ride and cross stick only that things really started to gel. Then added hi-hat and then bass drum and finally those damn Tom's. The double on the toms overlapping w the simultaneous double on the ride and bd was an unnatural feeling so i worked on just that for a bit too to get more comfortable w it. I'm going to look at standard drum notation too, to help w counting and seeing it in a different way. I have so much more respect for those guys that can do it really smooth - proper cross-sticking and toms - and make it look easy. I just hit the side of my electric snare in-between my toms. But not proper cross-sticking. That adds a whole new element of fuckery.
Hi, this rhythm is knowned as Afro Cuban 6/8 because of the way the peoples playing it used to count the music. But in fact it's 4/4, 6/8, 12/8... whatever you want. It just depends on the context, the way you want to write it, and the way ou want to count it. But it's all subjective. The absolute fact is that you need 12 "'pulses" to complete the pattern. Don't worry about that too much.
I cant help but count it as 4/4 triplets. 1(and uh)+a 2+a 3+a 4+a or "tri-pal-let" 4 x over.. Is it tradtitionally a fast 123456,223456 that's being counted? If you get this id appreciate it. Ive played many compound tribal rhythm meters but I guess never occurred to me the more jazz oriented 6/8 works as well
Hi Ned, You really should count it like you feel it. Even in the same band, different musicians like to count and feel the same song differently. So in the end it really doesn't matter much. At least it's my opinion :)
Really great idea. Now we can really acknowledge rhythmic geometry. See the shapes and the divisions of time. Truly amazing!!! Just one correction if I may? The sound and the graphics are out by one beat (the sound is one beat too late - its starting at 13:00 instead of 0:00). This is still amazing, great work. Thank you for putting it out here! Good luck
Hi, thank you for your encouraging words. The circle do start at 12 of course. Some peoples got problem with high resolution 60fps synchronisation, i experienced it on slower computer. But i can garantee the circle start at 12. just look at the count-down at the beginning. Happy drumming, i wish you good practice.
Nah sorry graphics are on 0:00 and they look absolutely beautiful but the sound is not in sync. Just check the the hi-hat sound for instance. The graph is 0:00, 3:00, 6:00, 9:00. The beat is dropping one tick too late ie 1:00, 5:00, 7:00 and 10:00. I hope you see it but if not I still appreciate this video. Many thanks
Hi, there's surely a problem somewhere in your system. The sound is in sync, i'm extremely careful with sync stuffs. You can download the video and check for yourself on your DAW. Did you try the 480p resolution ? It's not 60fps anymore and it can be easier on your CPU. Anyway thank you again for your words, but trust me the uploaded file is synced and what i hear and see is in sync too.
This non-linear graphic charting system is a Fine depiction, Short Bell part labelled "Ride Cymbal Bell" succinctly displayed ... The cycling interrelationships of parts well shown for listening and watching....and Playing !! I'm not playing contraption drums but African instruments,,,,This charting can be used for Mbira Kushaura _ Kutsinhira interrelationships . Concentricizing the charts gives a cyclic view . ( I do StereoPhoto pairs 3D and view in FreeView Parallel. I'm viewing adjacent circles superimposed .) Thanks for this Site, I was perusing Zangbeto of Benin, Abaqua of Africa, found Bembe options, and ZZANNNnnggg, Synchronicitated onto THIS !! Now checking for other by Y'All . Hi-Hat alternate this 4 with 3, 6, (5, 7 !). The Constellation connect-the-dots look and the throbbing Circles are Vivid . My GrandFather would have Loved this, , , , He invented a music reading machine that John Phillips Sousa said would revolutionize music teaching . Work This up for Kpanlogo, Pa Cha / Kpatsa , Djiti, Zepaule, Djouba, Nago, et al...FUNNnnn FEEEeeelll ! T
Thank you thank you thank you, If there is a link I would be happy to get a generous donation for your contribution. I would love to see one of these for the Mozambique. It would be especially helpful to be able to slow it way down for the beginner. What do you have here is amazingly useful has helped me immensely Thank you again
Hi Mike. I did it in After Effects. It's kind of an introduction to a larger project about coordination. It'll be a ebook and videos and this circular way of representing the rhythms just fit perfectly with the content. I'm happy you enjoy it, i highly recommend you the book on the description of the video !
Hi P.naik, the visual is 100% accurate, but on some computer or configuration sometimes the audio is out of sync, maybe the 60fps is not well supported in your configuration.
Hi Hatchet_Jack DrumHack, in this kind of 12 pulses rhythms, you can play the "12/8 Clave" which is : XoXoXooXoXoo You can have fun rotating this Clave and you've got 12 possibilities, the more useful ones are often the five with a stroke on the first beat, but the 7 others are great too to add complexity as the first beat is silent.
Drumset Fundamentals ...Thanks for Your Reply! Are you saying this is Played over a “12/8 CLAVE” ? With your “X o” chart, i am interpreting that this is the SAME as a 3-2 Son Clave, Correct? I have heard this cymbal Pattern played ACCENTING the Second Stroke of Both Double Strokes that occur on the Bell. > > > > > II: XoXoxXoXoXox :II . Your High Tom “helps” me hear that in your Example. With your High Tom, I am hearing a 3-2 Rumba Clave: XoXooXoXoXoo. That Audibly “Fits” Under /Inherently in Your Bembe. So I guess I’m disagreeing (not hearing) Your “12/8 Clave” Answer. DF Wrote “ XoXoXooXoXoo “. That goes AGAINST your High Tom stroke. A. Dear DF, are You SURE the 12/8 Clave Pattern you sent me is the Correct Answer? B. Who or Where is your Your Source for your Answers? If it’s Conversations in Clave by Horacio Hernandez, He is Wrong with some of his Terminology. I Love Him as a Player, But there are Mistakes in His Book. He told me as much when he signed my Copy of his Book at PASIC a few years ago.
Hi Hatchet, I don't think we disagree, Rhumba Clave & Son Clave are not 12 pulses rhythm. So technicaly if you play any of them over a Bembe, you'll go over the bar etc... The closest rhythm in 12 pulses to a clave is the one we talk about. Then there's 12 rotations possible to play it. (Your answer is just one of them too). I was not talking about particular rules or tradition when i said that this rhythm can fit. There's surely a "rotation" more suited to sound traditional. My point was that all 12 rotations of this "12/8 Clave" can give very interesting musical explorations over somebody playing the Bembé. This "12/8 Clave" Rhythm got some very strong properties even when rotated, it's a very good candidate for a guitar line, bass or anything over this rhythm. I think the confusion was due to the name, Rhumba Clave & Son Clave are not appropriate names for a 12 pulse Clave.
Hi David, i'll try my best to continue this video series, but unfortunately the new monetization of RUclips consider my channel as a spamming channel. Consequently i didn't get any revenue anymore from my channel which require a lot of time and work after my day job. So i have to figure out new solutions to keep sharing and help peoples practicing.
That's a shame. The visualization is highly helpful. I wish I had stumbled upon your channel when I was learning to play Songo years ago. I feel like I could learn any style this way!
Hello, the time signature is not an "absolute truth"; you can write a rhythm using a different time signature. Bembé is often referred to as an "Afro-Cuban 6/8" rhythm, that's all.
Hi Nenad, initialy i planned a lot of grooves, but RUclips new monetization system, just turn me off. I spend a LOT of time on this channel and now they demonetized me. With my musical band, family and day job, i can't afford to put as much time as i did with 0 revenus. I hope you understand. Maybe in the future i will upload some more if i have time to spare but i can't garantee it. RUclips new rules just suck.
Hi, thank you. No it's not. You got the reference pulsation at the top left. So the 12 pulses rate is 360 BPM, But the way we use to think about this type of rhythm is a 4/4 pulse subdivided in ternary which mean the main pulse is mainly thinked as 3 time slower. so 120 BPM.
Hi Sebastian, No i don't have a tutorial, To sync everything i did a lot of scripting, so i can change the BPM without reworking everything. It's not that hard if you do some research on After Effects Expressions, you can start by programming simple movements etc...
@@DrumsetFundamentals Thanks man, check my result: ruclips.net/video/iB-xi_MbFB8/видео.html I only have Premiere Pro so I used Algodoo to program the movement. Let me know... Is not perfect was difficult to sync.
if you play a chromatic scale ascending but only accented the Ride cymbal bell pattern you'll get a major scale and same thing descending, phrygian. just a funny coincidence i thought
Hi, it's something that is also mentionned in the Toussaint book. I don't think it's a coincidence at all. In one case it's about how to optimize notes and silences, and in the other it's about frequencies used and not used. it's kind of the same problem really, with the same type of mathematical answer.
Hey there, just love this drum groove, awesome job here ! Do you think that I could buy/use this one on a short video ? I'm currently experimenting some kinds of "Carlos Santana grooves" on the bass and this rythm pattern fits perfectly ! I'd obsiously mention and link your channel with it ! (btw, that'd be on instagram). Thanks for letting me know what you think ! Cheers !
@@DrumsetFundamentals Thank you so much ! Here's the link : instagram.com/p/CBvynWHohJY/?igshid=m5051l84gozj Sorry for the sound quality btw, i can only record with my phone...! Hope you'll like it !
Hey, very good bassline and groove ! The sound quality is not great but we can still feel the vibe ! By the way i just decided to purchase a bass to learn it a bit better. Thank you for the link !
@@DrumsetFundamentals Thanks for the comment !! Yeah i know, i must get myself some proper recording gear, i've been doing it this way for many years already but i'm getting truly annoyed by the fact that my sound quality is sh*t ...! Anyway, great idea on buying a bass !! It'll complete your rhythm section perspectives ;) Good luck on your way through practice !
Hi Stanley. I think the best way to figure out how a circle sounds like, is to count the "dots" and play the written strokes. Start slow. Then you can do the same for each limb until you got a better understand of the coordination and interactions between the 4 patterns.
Hi Kurt, I never indicate 4/4 or any time signature. A rhythm can be expressed in any time signature, Some just make no sense. This rhythm is in 4/4, 6/8, 12/8, 12/4, 3/4 whatever you like.
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I have waited all my life for an instructional video without somebody talking at the audience. Bravo.
LaFrae Sci right? This is revolutionary!
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Totally agree!
Thank you for this! Absolute useful and exciting. ❤
Not having to sit through someone playing for 5 minutes going look how great I am before we get into any real content. This is a game changer.
Bravo👏
I’m not kidding, these diagrams are helping me grow so much as a drummer. I’m good enough at learning certain things by ear and can figure out sheet music if I study it long enough. Outside of that I’m strictly a visuals person. Thank you for making these.
That's great Corey ! Thank you for your comment
Bravissimo !! Assai interessante....
This is a great way to understand complex grooves, more intuitive than any other system I ever seen. Great work
Hi Johnny, Thank you. I like the emphasis on the 12 equal pulses instead of thinking in term of beats and subdivisions. You can choose to perceive the pattern over 12, 6, 4 or 3 main beats, it doesn't really matter. Only the interaction between the 4 "rhythm" is characteristic of the main rhythm. I'm working on a whole book and serie of exercises based on this system, i'll post more about in on this channel later on. Happy practice!
well its not accurate .
Any other system ? What about notating it ? This is the lazy mans way out , and for those who can’t read music . Using notation is the most intuitive “ system “
@@sbirrito it can help to understand it tho, to show the synergy between each instrument of the drum
@@sbirritolearning is easier when you consider how your mind works. Just because some cultures emphasize linear notions of time doesn't make cyclical ones less valid. Also this is a type of notation
0:07 I'm not even one of those 'satisfying things' people, but that sound, especially in the context of winding up an old school metronome, is so freaking satisfying. And the visual is revolutionary metronomotry. Keep up the great work.
oh my god it's so intuitive !! You can hear and work separetly each tom to understand each detail of the rhythm, this is so great !!! thank you a lot !!!
"There once was a word used-swing. Swing went in one direction, it was linear, and everything had to be played with an obvious pulse and that’s very restrictive. If you get a mental picture of the beat existing within a circle, you’re more free to improvise. People used to think the notes had to fall on the center of the beats in the bar at intervals like a metronome, with three or four men in the rhythm section accenting the same pulse. That’s like parade music or dance music. But imagine a circle surrounding each beat-each guy can play his notes anywhere in that circle and it gives him a feeling he has more space. The notes fall anywhere inside the circle but the original feeling for the beat isn’t changed."-Charles Mingus on his ideas relating to swing and what he called, "rotary perception."
Actually very very interesting
amazing
Very cool. I already thought of music as a circle or mode. Glad to see its not an original thought.
Life-enhancing. Wonderful... I listened for the whole 10 mins 😎
I repeated it. 😅
Who designed this system. I think it's fantastic for people who are visual learners/ interpreters. So good!
Absolutely
I am 3 years late, but this is called Euclidian Rythm and was discovered and studied by Godfried Toussaint in 2004
If you rely on looking at this thing you’ll never really be able to play it with the proper groove.
Hi Drichardsonsax1, Are you aware of a notation system that show and teach the proper groove ? I'm curious, as I don't know any system able to show "groove".
@@MaxIsBackInTown African cultures often represent drum music visually so its arguably a good place to start as would be Western notation.
I'm not a drummer (bassist by trade) and this has me MESMERIZED....the visual reference helps (me anyways) to practice playing off of the drummer's hands/drum-strikes.....
SUBSCRIBED!!
haven't played this in years, thanks for the upload such a satisfying rhythm
You should create an "app" like a drum machine but with this configuration.
It will be very usefull and perfect on studying patterns
There is one in apple store. Lmk if you can't find it, I'll check my iPad. (I'm on android atm)
Great visualization! thats how rhythm works, in a circle.
holy crap so glad i discovered this channel
Absolutely love the design, thanks for the super simple/instructional video
This is such a fantastic display of each element! Wish there was an app like this!
This is a brilliant idea! Really appreciate the design of this. Makes my mind click to drumming, thanks very much
Hi Ryan, thank you for your appreciation, i'm very happy if it make some aspect of drumming clearer. that's the whole point.
So cool! Although pretty tough for me to play, I did it with this incredible visual system. Thanks
That's the most powerful way to show the actual drum circle. Thanks.
BTW, I do remember some free VST having an interface looking like this.
TOP TOP TOP.
I love your graphics! KEEP GOING!
Great so great! All those rhythm apps are useless compared to this system. I just love it. Wish it was more standardized and accessible
thank you !
Awesome! It gets you dancing.
Oh man, this is gonna take me awhile, lol. These videos are amazing.
Hi Jason, Do it slowly, it's not that hard to get the coordination done. Get it to groove take a bit more time, but it's not that hard !
This is brilliant!
This is extremely helpful thank you very much
At first i was hating this notation system, but it kinds of works, thanks for the video
Amazing way of representing rhythm! THank you
Amazing drum notation, thanks. I wish this could become a standard. It's so much easier to program drum machines IMHO.
This is the best thing ive seen for drummers! I AM WONDERING WHY THIS DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH LIKES!!! Youre amazing i subscribed!
Hi Thank you Matias !! I appreciate your support ! :)
Drumset Fundamentals You are very welcome! Best visuals for grooves!
Drumset Fundamentals You should make this into an app and charge $1. I have never seen anything better!
Hi Matias, I don't even have a "smartphone" myself. So i'll probably not release an app in a near future :) But i'm working on a very good (i hope...) book for coordination using this visualisation method, as i find it fantastic too ! By the way all credits is due to Godfried T. Toussaint. You can find his amazing book on the video description ! :)
Drumset Fundamentals Oh ok! Cool thank you!
You’re channel is awesome, so many ideas how do something new when practice. Benny Grebb ideas is cool too! Thank you A LOT for your great job!!!
Hi! thank you very much i really appreciate your comment. I'm really glad to know that you find some inspiration to practice more efficiently with "my" tools. Happy practicing !
Well this is a very interesting concept....as a kinasthetic learner, I always need to do the thing though. I find this good for working stuff out. However, I find it as as difficult as reading notation sheet music 😂😂. Overall, it's great and a help for any drummer, thanks 👍
Hi, thank you for your comment. I find this system very helpful to understand rhythm and pattern properties. But to write pieces of music, of course, nothing can come close the the western notation system.
Very nice!!!
I like this!! This is AWESOME: The visual aids gives me a sense of how the rhythm is.
I'm a Keyboard Player though... still helps!!
Fantástico trabajo! así es fácil aprender, muchas gracias!
wow this is very helpful
excellent visual presentation genius
This is phenomenal! Many thanks!
It looks really nice and understandable!
Love it soooo much! Show Greb
Magnifique
Great notation system!
Nice track, thanks.
Just perfect! Thank you!
Woah! I love this! Thank you!
thank you !
man thats some perfect grooves you got going on you're channel ! Make more ! :D
Parabéns! Muito bom.
Wow this is awesome! Subbed 🤙🏽
Hi Laga, thank you, there's more coming !!
Hi everyone,
Very helpful ... Regards.
Dope!!!! Thanks, keep on posting! You should post afrobeat rhythms. Tony Allen style ;)
Hi S.P.C, i'm glad you liked it. There's some Afrobeat grooves, Sikyi, Songo, Mozambique & Mambo grooves on the way. I just need to find some time to edit the videos and mix the drums sound. It should not be long.
PS : tu es français aussi ? :)
So cool...
For me I got comfortable w a few elements at a time. Then switched things around and did different combinations. But it wasn't until I did ride and cross stick only that things really started to gel. Then added hi-hat and then bass drum and finally those damn Tom's. The double on the toms overlapping w the simultaneous double on the ride and bd was an unnatural feeling so i worked on just that for a bit too to get more comfortable w it. I'm going to look at standard drum notation too, to help w counting and seeing it in a different way.
I have so much more respect for those guys that can do it really smooth - proper cross-sticking and toms - and make it look easy. I just hit the side of my electric snare in-between my toms. But not proper cross-sticking. That adds a whole new element of fuckery.
This is the best thing since sliced bread
can someone explain why this is 6/8. I can't help but feel it in 4/4.
Hi, this rhythm is knowned as Afro Cuban 6/8 because of the way the peoples playing it used to count the music. But in fact it's 4/4, 6/8, 12/8... whatever you want. It just depends on the context, the way you want to write it, and the way ou want to count it. But it's all subjective. The absolute fact is that you need 12 "'pulses" to complete the pattern. Don't worry about that too much.
Focus on the ride (bell) pattern to get the 6/8 feel. Count the 1 2 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 1.
Do any drummers feel compelled to play 8th notes on their hihat foot?
In other words take 1 2 3 4 and play 1&2&3&4&? I do
I cant help but count it as 4/4 triplets. 1(and uh)+a 2+a 3+a 4+a or "tri-pal-let" 4 x over.. Is it tradtitionally a fast 123456,223456 that's being counted? If you get this id appreciate it. Ive played many compound tribal rhythm meters but I guess never occurred to me the more jazz oriented 6/8 works as well
Hi Ned, You really should count it like you feel it. Even in the same band, different musicians like to count and feel the same song differently. So in the end it really doesn't matter much. At least it's my opinion :)
cool stuff - likje iT!!
amazing
very helpful thanks a lot!
Love it
love how it shifts in the ear from straight to broken
awesome
Really great idea. Now we can really acknowledge rhythmic geometry. See the shapes and the divisions of time. Truly amazing!!!
Just one correction if I may?
The sound and the graphics are out by one beat (the sound is one beat too late - its starting at 13:00 instead of 0:00). This is still amazing, great work. Thank you for putting it out here! Good luck
Hi, thank you for your encouraging words. The circle do start at 12 of course. Some peoples got problem with high resolution 60fps synchronisation, i experienced it on slower computer. But i can garantee the circle start at 12. just look at the count-down at the beginning. Happy drumming, i wish you good practice.
Nah sorry graphics are on 0:00 and they look absolutely beautiful but the sound is not in sync. Just check the the hi-hat sound for instance. The graph is 0:00, 3:00, 6:00, 9:00. The beat is dropping one tick too late ie 1:00, 5:00, 7:00 and 10:00.
I hope you see it but if not I still appreciate this video. Many thanks
Hi, there's surely a problem somewhere in your system. The sound is in sync, i'm extremely careful with sync stuffs. You can download the video and check for yourself on your DAW. Did you try the 480p resolution ? It's not 60fps anymore and it can be easier on your CPU. Anyway thank you again for your words, but trust me the uploaded file is synced and what i hear and see is in sync too.
This non-linear graphic charting system is a Fine depiction, Short Bell part labelled "Ride Cymbal Bell" succinctly displayed ... The cycling interrelationships of parts well shown for listening and watching....and Playing !! I'm not playing contraption drums but African instruments,,,,This charting can be used for Mbira Kushaura _ Kutsinhira interrelationships . Concentricizing the charts gives a cyclic view . ( I do StereoPhoto pairs 3D and view in FreeView Parallel. I'm viewing adjacent circles superimposed .) Thanks for this Site, I was perusing Zangbeto of Benin, Abaqua of Africa, found Bembe options, and ZZANNNnnggg, Synchronicitated onto THIS !! Now checking for other by Y'All . Hi-Hat alternate this 4 with 3, 6, (5, 7 !). The Constellation connect-the-dots look and the throbbing Circles are Vivid . My GrandFather would have Loved this, , , , He invented a music reading machine that John Phillips Sousa said would revolutionize music teaching . Work This up for Kpanlogo, Pa Cha / Kpatsa , Djiti, Zepaule, Djouba,
Nago, et al...FUNNnnn FEEEeeelll ! T
bass drum makes 12/8 beats?
These are great! Would you be able to do a dub/ska riddim one? Thanks!
Thank you thank you thank you,
If there is a link I would be happy to get a generous donation for your contribution.
I would love to see one of these for the Mozambique. It would be especially helpful to be able to slow it way down for the beginner.
What do you have here is amazingly useful has helped me immensely
Thank you again
Hi Mats, thank you very much, i'm very happy to help musicians, that's my reward, i'll do the mozambique groove of course ! Happy practicing !
Love you bro. Can I use this in my rap.I am a newcomer.
wonderful, can I use it for my vocal exercices ?
nice. how did you came out with this ¨notation¨system? thanks
Hi ! the main inspiration come from this amazing book : "The Geometry of Musical Rhythm" by Godfried T. Toussaint
I will take it a look. Do you make the animations too? man, you put your hands in some heavy work. congrats! any link to learn more about your system?
Yes, i did the animations too... i take a bit of learning, but now i got the "template" for future animations based around that "system" :)
Hi ! Amazing Work ! I'm very interested by the software you use ? Can you help me ?
What a great way to visualize rhythm. How did you do this?
Hi Mike. I did it in After Effects. It's kind of an introduction to a larger project about coordination. It'll be a ebook and videos and this circular way of representing the rhythms just fit perfectly with the content. I'm happy you enjoy it, i highly recommend you the book on the description of the video !
Drumset Fundamentals is it out yet? I would love to buy an app of this!!
I might be wrong, but it's the second snare shot noted a 16th too early? The sound send to drag behind the visual
Hi P.naik, the visual is 100% accurate, but on some computer or configuration sometimes the audio is out of sync, maybe the 60fps is not well supported in your configuration.
Et bien grand merci!
De rien ! le partage est un plaisir ! @+
Mesmerizing! Logical brain just can't get a grip on it.
Nice Work😀. This is Great! A. Is this over a 3-2 Rhumba Clave in 6/8 ? Is there such a thing as a 2-3 Clave in 6/8 (Rhumba OR Son) ?
Hi Hatchet_Jack DrumHack, in this kind of 12 pulses rhythms, you can play the "12/8 Clave" which is : XoXoXooXoXoo
You can have fun rotating this Clave and you've got 12 possibilities, the more useful ones are often the five with a stroke on the first beat, but the 7 others are great too to add complexity as the first beat is silent.
Drumset Fundamentals ...Thanks for Your Reply! Are you saying this is Played over a “12/8 CLAVE” ?
With your “X o” chart, i am interpreting that this is the SAME as a 3-2 Son Clave, Correct?
I have heard this cymbal Pattern played ACCENTING the Second Stroke of Both Double Strokes that occur on the Bell.
> > > > >
II: XoXoxXoXoXox :II
.
Your High Tom “helps” me hear that in your Example.
With your High Tom, I am hearing a 3-2 Rumba Clave:
XoXooXoXoXoo. That Audibly “Fits” Under /Inherently in Your Bembe.
So I guess I’m disagreeing (not hearing) Your “12/8 Clave” Answer.
DF Wrote
“ XoXoXooXoXoo “. That goes AGAINST your High Tom stroke.
A. Dear DF, are You SURE the 12/8 Clave Pattern you sent me is the Correct Answer?
B. Who or Where is your Your Source for your Answers? If it’s
Conversations in Clave by Horacio Hernandez, He is Wrong with some of his Terminology. I Love Him as a Player, But there are Mistakes in His Book. He told me as much when he signed my Copy of his Book at PASIC a few years ago.
Hi Hatchet, I don't think we disagree, Rhumba Clave & Son Clave are not 12 pulses rhythm. So technicaly if you play any of them over a Bembe, you'll go over the bar etc... The closest rhythm in 12 pulses to a clave is the one we talk about. Then there's 12 rotations possible to play it. (Your answer is just one of them too). I was not talking about particular rules or tradition when i said that this rhythm can fit. There's surely a "rotation" more suited to sound traditional. My point was that all 12 rotations of this "12/8 Clave" can give very interesting musical explorations over somebody playing the Bembé. This "12/8 Clave" Rhythm got some very strong properties even when rotated, it's a very good candidate for a guitar line, bass or anything over this rhythm. I think the confusion was due to the name, Rhumba Clave & Son Clave are not appropriate names for a 12 pulse Clave.
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Fantastic method...One question, is this pattern useful or "playable" on "Afro Blues" (santamaria)?
Hi Guillaume, yeah it's perfectly playable on Afro Blues ! Thank you for your comment !
Thank you for answering..it's very kind of you...I'm gonna play this in my jazz school workshop!
Have you considered creating a rhythm wheel drum machine
More grooves please!
Hi David, i'll try my best to continue this video series, but unfortunately the new monetization of RUclips consider my channel as a spamming channel. Consequently i didn't get any revenue anymore from my channel which require a lot of time and work after my day job. So i have to figure out new solutions to keep sharing and help peoples practicing.
That's a shame. The visualization is highly helpful. I wish I had stumbled upon your channel when I was learning to play Songo years ago. I feel like I could learn any style this way!
This rhytm is in 4 time so in 12/8..no?
why à 6/8 ?
Thanks
Hello, the time signature is not an "absolute truth"; you can write a rhythm using a different time signature. Bembé is often referred to as an "Afro-Cuban 6/8" rhythm, that's all.
@@DrumsetFundamentals ok!! Tanks.. your vidéos are very cool to understand rythms
good
Do you have any more of these, apart from seven grooves listed here? If yes, how can I obtain them?
Hi Nenad, initialy i planned a lot of grooves, but RUclips new monetization system, just turn me off. I spend a LOT of time on this channel and now they demonetized me. With my musical band, family and day job, i can't afford to put as much time as i did with 0 revenus. I hope you understand. Maybe in the future i will upload some more if i have time to spare but i can't garantee it. RUclips new rules just suck.
Did you make this with video editing or a dedicated software? Would be interested in purchasing. Thanks in advance.
Great groove!! But is faster than 120, isn´t it?
Hi, thank you. No it's not. You got the reference pulsation at the top left. So the 12 pulses rate is 360 BPM, But the way we use to think about this type of rhythm is a 4/4 pulse subdivided in ternary which mean the main pulse is mainly thinked as 3 time slower. so 120 BPM.
Excelent!! Thank you very much!
Hi I want to know how you make this animation, and which program do you use?
Hi Sebastian, you can just read the description.
@@DrumsetFundamentals yes thank you, do you have any tutorial on that? It is awesome how you sync everything
Hi Sebastian, No i don't have a tutorial, To sync everything i did a lot of scripting, so i can change the BPM without reworking everything. It's not that hard if you do some research on After Effects Expressions, you can start by programming simple movements etc...
@@DrumsetFundamentals Thanks man, check my result: ruclips.net/video/iB-xi_MbFB8/видео.html I only have Premiere Pro so I used Algodoo to program the movement. Let me know... Is not perfect was difficult to sync.
Hi Sebastian, very cool, and you did it fast ! congratulations, well done !
if you play a chromatic scale ascending but only accented the Ride cymbal bell pattern you'll get a major scale
and same thing descending, phrygian. just a funny coincidence i thought
Hi, it's something that is also mentionned in the Toussaint book. I don't think it's a coincidence at all. In one case it's about how to optimize notes and silences, and in the other it's about frequencies used and not used. it's kind of the same problem really, with the same type of mathematical answer.
if every melody played in 12 edo can be converted to 19 edo, then the same can be said with 12/8 to 19/8 too! @@DrumsetFundamentals
Would it be ok to use this in a song?
Hi RobRevert, It's ok, just credit it.
Kumasi dude
hi i cannot recognize the 6-8 ,
how do i count the 6 here?
Hi, Every two dots.
the bass drum? Like one round = 1 count?
Hi Evert, theres 12 'dots' by cycle. If you want to count the rhythm in 6, Count every 2 dots. If you want to count in 4, count every 3 dots etc...
wow Thanks! It is not immediatly hearable but it's there. Amazing how all these different countings fit togheter
this one is so hard
Yeah
I would like to hear this with the hi hat replaced with a wood block
Hey there, just love this drum groove, awesome job here ! Do you think that I could buy/use this one on a short video ? I'm currently experimenting some kinds of "Carlos Santana grooves" on the bass and this rythm pattern fits perfectly ! I'd obsiously mention and link your channel with it ! (btw, that'd be on instagram). Thanks for letting me know what you think !
Cheers !
Hi Lilian, that's cool for me, do it ! Please send me the link, i would love to see the result !
@@DrumsetFundamentals Thank you so much ! Here's the link : instagram.com/p/CBvynWHohJY/?igshid=m5051l84gozj Sorry for the sound quality btw, i can only record with my phone...! Hope you'll like it !
Hey, very good bassline and groove ! The sound quality is not great but we can still feel the vibe ! By the way i just decided to purchase a bass to learn it a bit better. Thank you for the link !
@@DrumsetFundamentals Thanks for the comment !! Yeah i know, i must get myself some proper recording gear, i've been doing it this way for many years already but i'm getting truly annoyed by the fact that my sound quality is sh*t ...! Anyway, great idea on buying a bass !! It'll complete your rhythm section perspectives ;) Good luck on your way through practice !
Thank you, i wish you all the best on your musical journey too !
I suggest you break down each segment of the beat and play them for two minutes each
Hi Stanley. I think the best way to figure out how a circle sounds like, is to count the "dots" and play the written strokes. Start slow. Then you can do the same for each limb until you got a better understand of the coordination and interactions between the 4 patterns.
nice app
The wild part is if you can tune out parts of the beats, the pattern seems to shift
Partiture no?
I like it but maybe bc im a former saxophonist i prefer a normal part.
My keyboardist send me that link last day.still i trying 😂
Poly folks
why says 6/8 it seems 4/4
Hi Kurt, I never indicate 4/4 or any time signature. A rhythm can be expressed in any time signature, Some just make no sense. This rhythm is in 4/4, 6/8, 12/8, 12/4, 3/4 whatever you like.