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@@pacspecific Once upon a time, a long time ago. Beyond the clouds and inder the rainbow bridge. Nvidia released RTX 3050. So why the story ended here? Why no more 50's class card anymore?
@@fajaradi1223 Firstly, NVIDIA has skewed all entry graphic cards for gamers on a low budget (£100 - £280), have done that but have kept usual prices like the 3050 8GB price much higher than the old name xx50 in 100-150 tier. Nobody wants to pay an entry level gpu that is simply much worser than 4060 or AMD equivalant for not much more money. Secondly, Intel and AMD have taken the competition in terms of budget, well not so for 7600 and XT this time around (Intel Arc are cheapest but among weakest). The newer 6GB 3050 may make gamers believe the performance segment is true for the price (2GB less VRAM but about 30% slower). Third, new Ryzen APUs have gotten much quicker and efficient and will continue to do so in the future, I mean NVIDIA may deliver the performance crown if they release the 5050 and beats APU on other benchmarks. The lack of response from team green in lowerering costs and rising TSMC prices might just simply give them excuses in to why there is nothing new for segment
I hope AMD doesnt turn into the Nvidia of CPUs if they start to control the market, I dont think any of us want to start seeing CPU prices skyrocket But I have faith in them, they have single handedly kept the PC industry alive over the past years, and I dont see them stopping now
Amd has kept the cpu wars way more entertaining than Intel. If not for ryzen 5000, the Intel 12th gen wouldn't have released this decade and we would still be on 4c for 500$ and 8c for 1000$.
Yup. I want AMD to gain their fair share of market share and remain competitive, but I don’t want Intel to go out of business either. The market need duopoly or more, 1 company exist to keep the other on their toes. Intel being a leader for too long got too comfortable and not competitive and paid the price. If AMD does the same, they deserve the same results if they don’t learn from Intel’s mistakes. We all know ARM is lurking around the corner. Though technically x64 and ARM64 are completely different platforms, they still compete in the same market place for customers looking to buy laptops and computers. It will be a matter of time ARM enters the desktop or GPU market. Especially with nVidia increasing performance by also increasing power draw. If ARM can deliver something that delivers 80% of that performance at 10% of the power draw and at 70% of the MSRP, that would be huge and attractive to consumers.
Im not an amd hater and wouldnt say if have the money i wouldnt buy amd but from all i can see the big buzz is about the i9s, and having i5 im quite satisfied with its performance and stability.
@@tileeqjust built my pc a while ago with a i5 12400f so i just barely escaped the 13th and 14th gen issues i haven’t had a single crash or spike in temps
Good thing I have my underpowered (relatively speaking) 7900 XT. That and also for wayland, on arch of course. Yeah, I'm using arch. Pretty cool, right? I'm on arch btw. Did I tell you I use arch?
@Sisay1982 is right. Remember Blackwell HPC is two dies, so we should have expected near double power draw for 5090. Also lends credence for a 5050, as they will have to bring back the "low end" XX50 if they are making a dual die flagship simply because the top end will be so expensive.
@@jackgowing1256there is only so much competition Intel can provide if they decide to go silent and not address the instability issues of 13th and 14th gen. Not only there is no fix over 4 months, there is no guarantee from Intel.
I was initially hesitant on going AMD for my build due to the high mobo and somewhat high DDR5 RAM prices at the time, but after learning that LGA 1700 was pretty much EOL and zen5 was gonna be continued i decided to go with amd. good thing i did.
Intel should give big discounts to people who purchased faulty 13th and 14th generation I-7 and I-9's. At this point, it's a faulty line of products. They should be recalled. Any other company would be told to do so.
intel is literally facing a similar issue that the 5950x had. obviously they need to fix it, but amd is not any better for stability at least in my experience on am4
13-14th gen i9 Intel processors boosting two cores so hard they degrade faster. Lock all cores when you get it. I hear that’s a solution to the problem to the degradation of the cpu causing these crashes.
Is it enough to use BIOS update for it? They said BIOS update already limit cpu performance into intel standart spec. Or I still need to do it manually in BIOS? If so, is there any video i can find?
The 9950X is looking like a 45% uplift from my current 5950X in Handbrake. I was leaning towards Intel for my next system for the media engine, but with the issue Intel has going on and with how much faster Ryzen 9000 looks to be doing in my productivity workloads than the current CPU's, I think the 9950X is what I'm going to and perhaps I'll go with an Arc A310 to get the media engine without all the issue Intel is dealing with.
I can see hanging onto the 980Ti for the time being. Bit lacking in VRAM today, but if your games manage, that's money well spent. Now, if you're on a 1080Ti, keep holding on brother. That boy's got some fight left in him yet!
asus just release a bios update for Z790-E board on 12/7/2024 and it is a microscope update. I have a 13900kf and I am thinking of changing to AMD 9950. I have used intel cpu since 2001 and am over 50 so I know when pc were big and slow(just like my wife 😂) but this situation is making a strong case for me to switch but i will wait to make my final decisions once I have seen all the reviews and third party benchmarks. I hope it is good, would be nice to work on my first AMD cpu
I'd disagree. Circumstances led to us currently having a 3400G+RX 580 and a 5800X3D+RX 6800 systems, a 4700U laptop and zero Intel and Nvidia products in the house, and I have almost a decade of experience using AMD products so I am by no means an AMD hater, but in my experience Ryzen has never been as stable as pre-13th gen Intel. With Intel as far as I've known from friends' anecdotes and people's complaints on the internet they have been the paragon of stability for over a decade. AMD on the other hand has been sticking it to Intel in one way or another in performance since Ryzen 1000, and are still outclassing them in some scenarios such as gaming with their X3D stuff. Around Ryzen 5000 series AMD was the better option in literally everything except maybe in scenarios that required Intel's QuickSync. These days it's almost a no-brainer to buy a Ryzen PC if gaming is your priority - either they're always cheaper than the competition, or significantly faster for the same money. This is why Intel losing the stability crown is such a big deal. I don't even remember the last time I heard about Intel stability issues on a consumer desktop environment, and my first PC dates all the way back to NetBurst.
Remember a year ago when CPUs were known as the part that would likely outlast the rest of the system? Older mainboars were really difficult to source compared to CPUs because the boards would fail after several years but the processors would just keep going. Well, I guess intel is innovating.
You've got to give Intel credit for having an interesting way of celebrating the 30th anniversary of the Pentium FDIV bug fiasco by releasing another buggy chip.
2:45 It could also be that they are coming out and that because they are not making a leap to 8k series means they have something else being prepared to take those numbers. It is typical of AMD to pull underdog moves like that so it wouldn't surprise me if they have something up their sleeves.
Sad to hear about this from Intel, they stretched the thread to thin, need a lower thermal throttle possibly, less power usage parts are burning out or degrading probably, they gotta take a step back like AMD is doing with Nvidia and the GPUs Amit defeat and regroup next year possibly.
I am somewhat concerned with the idea that “a BIOS fix will solve the i9 problems”. How? By under clocking the CPU’s or reducing the use of the problem cores? Basically solving Intel’s problem by taking back what you’ve paid for. It would not be the first time. I’m old enough to remember the Pentium 166’s.
Whilst Intel are probably trying to get Arrow Lake out to counter the AMD 9000 series launch, the conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether Intel know exactly what is causing the 13th and 14th Gen instability, but are keeping quiet as it can't be fixed. But it's OK on Arrow Lake. So they're hoping to get that out and people using them before the class action lawsuits kick in.
The higher end ones would probably be more but if the RTX 5050 comes out at 8-10GB and the RTX 5060 comes out in 10-12GB of vram that would be great. Lets say the RTX 5050 can do 1080p high settings 60fps on the 8-10GB model would be great and if it is at the 200 dollar and below mark. If the 5060 can do max settings 1080p 60fps with the 10-12GB of vram and the price at 200-250 dollars would be great as well.
@Intel 13th and 14th gen: Thats why you dont adopt bleeding edge tech in your datacenter. Heck some of our servers run RHEL6 and some of the hosts are ALOT older. But you know what? They dont crash...
I have a laptop with an Intel i9-12900H. 12th gen... not on the "affected" list, but I'm sure it has minor issues. It was far worse when I first brought it, but various BIOS updates have resolved most issues.
I just want my 5090 to not be a fire hazard, have decently better specs and performance for the power consumption, and better ports, at a humane price. If they have the leeway to choose between giving us the best performance at a cheaper value, they should just do it and give us the best option. They're going to be targeting AI mainly anyways.
I’m still on AM4. Planned on upgrading to 9800x3d when it comes out. Now with all this intel stuff coming out looks like I’ll be making the right choice
Oh how the tides have changed. Intel has had a very long past of being the "go to" choice for system admins as that's what all of their programs had already been built around, to avoid any potential transition pains, they religiously stuck with Intel... So much for all that 😂
i know it will never happen, but at what point do intel just own up that they released a faulty product and sent out a full recall. How would that even work with the people that have gone out and bought motherboards specifically for these cpus. Everyone is going to out of pocket in the end.
Seeing All the news I was right to choose amd processor for the pc I will build. And it is Ryzen 7 7800X3d so I prob will have no problem in gaming for years to come 🎉🎉
Intel 15th gen will still have the same problems as 13th and 14th and will be a refresh before they figure it out on 15th gen and the power draw will be even more than 14th gen.
Intel really needs to step up with the 13th/14th gen failures. They have a BUNCH of good will to re-earn after this in both the server hosting and high-end consumer market. Their only real hope is for AMD to have a stumble like the exploding x3D parts from last year, IMO.
So, folks have said that Windows suffered from biodegradation requiring periodic DISM repair. Pair that with these Intel 13 and 14th gen CPUs and you have a really bad recipe for consumer dissatisfaction.
I'm really hoping the 9900X3D and 9950X3D chips would have vcache on both CCDs to avoid all the confusing core allocation and whatnot that Zen 4 dual CCD 3D chips had. Alas I'll probably just go for the 9800X3D then and maybe plan to upgrade to Zen6 or whatever the final gen CPU of AM5 is if I need the extra cores
At 500 watts that's more electricity that what my electric grill draws to cook my steaks, and even then my grill only runs for 15 minutes at a time vs these video cards will be running 24*7
Hardware has gotten so good that nobody cares anymore. Why should you ever upgrade if you already have a 14900k or 7950x3d or 7800x3d etc? To do what? At this point this is a battle between nvidia , amd and intel.
Imagine buying an i9 k series and sticking it in a server motherboard... doh. Only i9 failures are from cpus running on board settings, no enthusiasts witth reasonable overclock settings have failures... If not tuning a cpu, buy an i7 or lower, or a non k.
On the Intel 13/14th gen issues - is it strictly a top-end issue? Like only the X900K lines? Have a 12600k and want to upgrade but curious if I need to stay in 12th gen before they're not even purchasable in stores? Pairing with a 3090FE for a bottleneck 'bar'.
@@parz1pane772 okay so just find a reasonably priced upgrade (but not an i9) in 13th or 14th gen. Update my BIOS, and run a recommended or lesser power settings. I'm not trying to turn the PC into a raging furnace at idle but wanted to grab an upgrade while things are still available in 12th gen (if that's my best bet) and reduced prices on lots of stuff with new gen stuff releasing
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I bet that the 6090 will require us to plug it directly into a wall outlet
And the 8090 will cause a blackout
You need your own dedicated nuclear reactor to power it up 😂
And will come in a refrigeration unit riser cable not included.
9090 will require your own dyson sphere
I'm getting pretty tired of these jokes. It's not true and it's so overdone it's not funny anymore after a few years of the same joke.
Its a 50/50 chance that there will be a 5050
because 5050 translates to RTX 5050. NVIDIA does not need a 5050!!!!!
Please calm down Sir.
@@pacspecific
Once upon a time, a long time ago. Beyond the clouds and inder the rainbow bridge. Nvidia released RTX 3050. So why the story ended here? Why no more 50's class card anymore?
They should make a "coin flip edition" for this card and this card alone
@@fajaradi1223 Firstly, NVIDIA has skewed all entry graphic cards for gamers on a low budget (£100 - £280), have done that but have kept usual prices like the 3050 8GB price much higher than the old name xx50 in 100-150 tier. Nobody wants to pay an entry level gpu that is simply much worser than 4060 or AMD equivalant for not much more money.
Secondly, Intel and AMD have taken the competition in terms of budget, well not so for 7600 and XT this time around (Intel Arc are cheapest but among weakest). The newer 6GB 3050 may make gamers believe the performance segment is true for the price (2GB less VRAM but about 30% slower). Third, new Ryzen APUs have gotten much quicker and efficient and will continue to do so in the future, I mean NVIDIA may deliver the performance crown if they release the 5050 and beats APU on other benchmarks.
The lack of response from team green in lowerering costs and rising TSMC prices might just simply give them excuses in to why there is nothing new for segment
I hope AMD doesnt turn into the Nvidia of CPUs if they start to control the market, I dont think any of us want to start seeing CPU prices skyrocket
But I have faith in them, they have single handedly kept the PC industry alive over the past years, and I dont see them stopping now
Amd has kept the cpu wars way more entertaining than Intel. If not for ryzen 5000, the Intel 12th gen wouldn't have released this decade and we would still be on 4c for 500$ and 8c for 1000$.
@@RiyozsuWe'll also probably still stuck with 14nm if AMD never step up the competition
Never put your faith on any of these compaines
@@RiyozsuBecause they are/were the underdog. Underdogs work harder for your money.
Yup. I want AMD to gain their fair share of market share and remain competitive, but I don’t want Intel to go out of business either. The market need duopoly or more, 1 company exist to keep the other on their toes.
Intel being a leader for too long got too comfortable and not competitive and paid the price. If AMD does the same, they deserve the same results if they don’t learn from Intel’s mistakes. We all know ARM is lurking around the corner. Though technically x64 and ARM64 are completely different platforms, they still compete in the same market place for customers looking to buy laptops and computers. It will be a matter of time ARM enters the desktop or GPU market. Especially with nVidia increasing performance by also increasing power draw. If ARM can deliver something that delivers 80% of that performance at 10% of the power draw and at 70% of the MSRP, that would be huge and attractive to consumers.
Day by day, having chosen an AM5 motherboard seems like an even better choice.
For real, I am ready for the next gen amd cpus and the next gen gpus with no upgrades needed. Gotta love it! Lol
Im not an amd hater and wouldnt say if have the money i wouldnt buy amd but from all i can see the big buzz is about the i9s, and having i5 im quite satisfied with its performance and stability.
Same, gonna get 9900x3d and sell my 7800 x 3d lol
@tileeq Im on Am4 currently, and thats a completely valid point 👍
@@tileeqjust built my pc a while ago with a i5 12400f so i just barely escaped the 13th and 14th gen issues i haven’t had a single crash or spike in temps
AMD: Look how power efficient we've become!
NVIDIA: Well, if you're not going to use it...
Good thing I have my underpowered (relatively speaking) 7900 XT. That and also for wayland, on arch of course. Yeah, I'm using arch. Pretty cool, right? I'm on arch btw. Did I tell you I use arch?
Optimize Games ❎
$uck more Electricity ✅
it has much lower consumption
@Sisay1982 is right. Remember Blackwell HPC is two dies, so we should have expected near double power draw for 5090. Also lends credence for a 5050, as they will have to bring back the "low end" XX50 if they are making a dual die flagship simply because the top end will be so expensive.
Vulkan:
Optimize Games: Yes
$uck more electricity: Yes
Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me
Optimizing games and deciding a GPUs tdp is done by COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMPANIES
Just realized how bad intel is doing and the thought of the US govt giving them MORE untaxed money makes me sad
yeah, but maybe they need it, otherwise AMD wouldn't have competition
Keeping competition alive is more important than the results, think about where we would be now if amd didn't stick it out
@@jackgowing1256there is only so much competition Intel can provide if they decide to go silent and not address the instability issues of 13th and 14th gen. Not only there is no fix over 4 months, there is no guarantee from Intel.
@@Riyozsu amd has been in worse positions and they bounced back
@@IrocZIV If you think Intel can even remotely compete with more efficient AMD CPUs... I have no idea what you smoke
If they can stick to AMD powered servers, then it's a big market share loss for Intel.
I was initially hesitant on going AMD for my build due to the high mobo and somewhat high DDR5 RAM prices at the time, but after learning that LGA 1700 was pretty much EOL and zen5 was gonna be continued i decided to go with amd.
good thing i did.
They meant EOL as in the CPU ends its life xd
@@daedalus6433😂
@@daedalus6433 Hey now ... consistent crashing doesn't mean EOL ... ;)
🙌
Intel should give big discounts to people who purchased faulty 13th and 14th generation I-7 and I-9's. At this point, it's a faulty line of products. They should be recalled. Any other company would be told to do so.
They didn’t do it for the Pentium 166’s back in the day. They’re not going to do it now sadly.
AMD has joined to Dark Force: - "Power! Unlimited Pooower!!!"
😁
we did get a 50 class in the 40 series it is called 4060 and 60ti
4050 laptop was a thing
@@rhomadude7938 that 4050 laptop should be a 4030....
😂🤣
Someone give brett a retail chip before launch day so he can test them for launch day
I really want to know what mental gymnastics a intel fanboy is doing right now to defend intel😂
"My 14900k has been stable with an overclock since launch so this issue is obviously overblown! It's just Reddit nonsense!"
intel is literally facing a similar issue that the 5950x had. obviously they need to fix it, but amd is not any better for stability at least in my experience on am4
@@TheArcticDen What is the problem with the 5950X?
@@TheArcticDenhave had 3600 and now 5600X, 0 issues whatsoever
💀
stability and "don't change what aint broke" was one of the last strong points for Intel, now there's not even that
13-14th gen i9 Intel processors boosting two cores so hard they degrade faster. Lock all cores when you get it. I hear that’s a solution to the problem to the degradation of the cpu causing these crashes.
Is it enough to use BIOS update for it? They said BIOS update already limit cpu performance into intel standart spec.
Or I still need to do it manually in BIOS? If so, is there any video i can find?
The 9950X is looking like a 45% uplift from my current 5950X in Handbrake. I was leaning towards Intel for my next system for the media engine, but with the issue Intel has going on and with how much faster Ryzen 9000 looks to be doing in my productivity workloads than the current CPU's, I think the 9950X is what I'm going to and perhaps I'll go with an Arc A310 to get the media engine without all the issue Intel is dealing with.
I can see hanging onto the 980Ti for the time being. Bit lacking in VRAM today, but if your games manage, that's money well spent.
Now, if you're on a 1080Ti, keep holding on brother. That boy's got some fight left in him yet!
"the cables won't melt this time"
'It will be more affordable this time'
It will because 1080 - 3080 - 5080
I have to skip the UFD Tech Deals as I don't even live in the US
The cut off “Badum tas” Lmao
And you have no excuse for missing your Brettfast.
The 5050 joke was not bad.
The RTX 5050, It's 50 percent crap, 50 percent good.
Brettfast is released at 03:00 PM over here in the Netherlands. I can’t wait that long for breakfast.
Released 9 pm over here loo
You were trying so hard to not laugh about the "dookie castle". I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that image was amusing.
Sounds like we could make a song out this Brett. “When Reese Cries”
asus just release a bios update for Z790-E board on 12/7/2024 and it is a microscope update. I have a 13900kf and I am thinking of changing to AMD 9950. I have used intel cpu since 2001 and am over 50 so I know when pc were big and slow(just like my wife 😂) but this situation is making a strong case for me to switch but i will wait to make my final decisions once I have seen all the reviews and third party benchmarks. I hope it is good, would be nice to work on my first AMD cpu
No 7970 XTX?... Missed opportunity there
true i too thought there will be dual chip 7990 would be great 4way 7900xtx will crush 4k gaming
I like dookie castles 🏰
9800x3d after post release temp/overclock and motherboard and stability tests. thats when I buy. coming from 5800x3d and in no hurry.
On a 5800X and I'm switching to that one if it's good too
the pricing of the 9950x will be the icing on the cake that will brake intel
It will be struggle to get those 9950X.
"5050 will be a coin flip as to if it'll even happen." Why'd you cut out the rimshot Brett was going to make!? xD
Reese please give us more then 3 items tomorrow
We need a whole episode just for you
I like Reece, but I live outside US, the deals don't apply to me.
I think the 5800X3D pushed Intel to up the volts and mhz to their high end chips.
that 5050 actually made me laugh lmao
"We're going to be no different."
I very much appreciate the candidness! 😁
i have deleted the isos though, thought they were unsafe or smth
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 huh?
The 9950X is gonna be sweet!
nah their 4050 was just mislabelled as a 4060 and their 4060 was mislabelled as 4060 ti
Hmmm………..it’s not AMD who is full of excuses now is it.
I’ve said this for years and it’s still true, AMD for reliability, intel for performance
I'd disagree. Circumstances led to us currently having a 3400G+RX 580 and a 5800X3D+RX 6800 systems, a 4700U laptop and zero Intel and Nvidia products in the house, and I have almost a decade of experience using AMD products so I am by no means an AMD hater, but in my experience Ryzen has never been as stable as pre-13th gen Intel. With Intel as far as I've known from friends' anecdotes and people's complaints on the internet they have been the paragon of stability for over a decade.
AMD on the other hand has been sticking it to Intel in one way or another in performance since Ryzen 1000, and are still outclassing them in some scenarios such as gaming with their X3D stuff. Around Ryzen 5000 series AMD was the better option in literally everything except maybe in scenarios that required Intel's QuickSync. These days it's almost a no-brainer to buy a Ryzen PC if gaming is your priority - either they're always cheaper than the competition, or significantly faster for the same money.
This is why Intel losing the stability crown is such a big deal. I don't even remember the last time I heard about Intel stability issues on a consumer desktop environment, and my first PC dates all the way back to NetBurst.
Currently rockin a 14900K. Definitely my last intel CPU!
Remember a year ago when CPUs were known as the part that would likely outlast the rest of the system?
Older mainboars were really difficult to source compared to CPUs because the boards would fail after several years but the processors would just keep going.
Well, I guess intel is innovating.
Those TDP numbers make sense. Nvidia will not have a huge node improvement, and they will have bigger chips. So I believe those numbers
You've got to give Intel credit for having an interesting way of celebrating the 30th anniversary of the Pentium FDIV bug fiasco by releasing another buggy chip.
Glad I waited to upgrade... probably gonna wait for the X3D models tho
9090 will require us to be atleast type 1 civilization so that we can feed it the power of the entire planet
I couldn't give a fuck about Arrow Lake when I am standing here with my crashing 14900K.
2:45 It could also be that they are coming out and that because they are not making a leap to 8k series means they have something else being prepared to take those numbers. It is typical of AMD to pull underdog moves like that so it wouldn't surprise me if they have something up their sleeves.
That Gpu almost has the wattage of an air fryer
i like how the news is regular is fun to have something to watch regularly
You missed a joke about the 5050, you called it a coin flip but you could have said something like “the chances are like 50/50” basum tssssg
I think you're wrong, it should be: "Badumm, tshssss"
Aged like milk.
Sad to hear about this from Intel, they stretched the thread to thin, need a lower thermal throttle possibly, less power usage parts are burning out or degrading probably, they gotta take a step back like AMD is doing with Nvidia and the GPUs Amit defeat and regroup next year possibly.
I am somewhat concerned with the idea that “a BIOS fix will solve the i9 problems”. How? By under clocking the CPU’s or reducing the use of the problem cores? Basically solving Intel’s problem by taking back what you’ve paid for. It would not be the first time. I’m old enough to remember the Pentium 166’s.
5050 would only happen if nvidias lithography process has horrible yields, i highly doubt they would rush into such a scenario
I guess you could say it's 50/50 we get a 5050 lol
Whilst Intel are probably trying to get Arrow Lake out to counter the AMD 9000 series launch, the conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether Intel know exactly what is causing the 13th and 14th Gen instability, but are keeping quiet as it can't be fixed. But it's OK on Arrow Lake. So they're hoping to get that out and people using them before the class action lawsuits kick in.
Edited the 50/50 pun? I liked it.
AMD used be the best chips from the 286 era till about the 8350. Intel didn't say on top very long tbh.
The higher end ones would probably be more but if the RTX 5050 comes out at 8-10GB and the RTX 5060 comes out in 10-12GB of vram that would be great. Lets say the RTX 5050 can do 1080p high settings 60fps on the 8-10GB model would be great and if it is at the 200 dollar and below mark. If the 5060 can do max settings 1080p 60fps with the 10-12GB of vram and the price at 200-250 dollars would be great as well.
Intel moves developers from CPU onto GPU and leaves the 13th/14th generations with the work experience kids.
Screw the new upgrades and games. I'll go back to older games that actually RUN and are polished.
The numbers seem to indicate that the 9950 X3D is going to be an efficiency monster. Here's hoping!
@Intel 13th and 14th gen: Thats why you dont adopt bleeding edge tech in your datacenter.
Heck some of our servers run RHEL6 and some of the hosts are ALOT older.
But you know what? They dont crash...
So tired of Intel and Nvidia just throwing more and more watts and cooling at the problem.
I have a laptop with an Intel i9-12900H. 12th gen... not on the "affected" list, but I'm sure it has minor issues. It was far worse when I first brought it, but various BIOS updates have resolved most issues.
So glad I chose an AM5 motherboard
I just want my 5090 to not be a fire hazard, have decently better specs and performance for the power consumption, and better ports, at a humane price. If they have the leeway to choose between giving us the best performance at a cheaper value, they should just do it and give us the best option. They're going to be targeting AI mainly anyways.
I’m still on AM4. Planned on upgrading to 9800x3d when it comes out. Now with all this intel stuff coming out looks like I’ll be making the right choice
Oh how the tides have changed. Intel has had a very long past of being the "go to" choice for system admins as that's what all of their programs had already been built around, to avoid any potential transition pains, they religiously stuck with Intel... So much for all that 😂
7950 90w = 9950 90w ...battle of water pumps
i know it will never happen, but at what point do intel just own up that they released a faulty product and sent out a full recall. How would that even work with the people that have gone out and bought motherboards specifically for these cpus. Everyone is going to out of pocket in the end.
Seeing All the news I was right to choose amd processor for the pc I will build. And it is Ryzen 7 7800X3d so I prob will have no problem in gaming for years to come 🎉🎉
They are obligated to come out with the 5050 now, they have to for the memes.
Intel , no thanks! Stability is most important!
Is it just me or a few channels refusing to mention gamer nexus anymore and their contributions with their investigating?
Thanks Steve.
Intel 15th gen will still have the same problems as 13th and 14th and will be a refresh before they figure it out on 15th gen and the power draw will be even more than 14th gen.
Sad that the benefits are few before you hit 200w. The benefits are less than 8% until you hit 200w, whereupon, you see a 20% benefit ...
Buying a 9950x and limit it to 65W so it could run colder and at the same speed at a i9 12900K
Intel really needs to step up with the 13th/14th gen failures. They have a BUNCH of good will to re-earn after this in both the server hosting and high-end consumer market. Their only real hope is for AMD to have a stumble like the exploding x3D parts from last year, IMO.
That wasn't even AMDs fault. It was Asus screwing up BIOSes.
So, folks have said that Windows suffered from biodegradation requiring periodic DISM repair. Pair that with these Intel 13 and 14th gen CPUs and you have a really bad recipe for consumer dissatisfaction.
I'm really hoping the 9900X3D and 9950X3D chips would have vcache on both CCDs to avoid all the confusing core allocation and whatnot that Zen 4 dual CCD 3D chips had. Alas I'll probably just go for the 9800X3D then and maybe plan to upgrade to Zen6 or whatever the final gen CPU of AM5 is if I need the extra cores
At 500 watts that's more electricity that what my electric grill draws to cook my steaks, and even then my grill only runs for 15 minutes at a time vs these video cards will be running 24*7
Wendell is a treasure, he must be protected at all costs
A dookie castle is F!@$# insane lmao
So, the higher end RDNA3 GPU's that have been listed on TechPowerUup forever might actually be a thing now....hmm.
Almost at the 1m mark. Great work brett and team.
I refunded my intel build. Waiting for AMD
man why you gottta @ me like that while I was taking a spoon full of oatmeal
Hardware has gotten so good that nobody cares anymore. Why should you ever upgrade if you already have a 14900k or 7950x3d or 7800x3d etc? To do what? At this point this is a battle between nvidia , amd and intel.
my ryzen 9 5950x holding his tears 🥹🥹
People skip deals? I would never do such a horrible thing
We need a full reece deals video 👍
I still find it crazy that devs didn't sort by CPU...
I made Reece cry...
Imagine buying an i9 k series and sticking it in a server motherboard... doh. Only i9 failures are from cpus running on board settings, no enthusiasts witth reasonable overclock settings have failures... If not tuning a cpu, buy an i7 or lower, or a non k.
you'd say that it has a 50/50 chance
On the Intel 13/14th gen issues - is it strictly a top-end issue? Like only the X900K lines?
Have a 12600k and want to upgrade but curious if I need to stay in 12th gen before they're not even purchasable in stores?
Pairing with a 3090FE for a bottleneck 'bar'.
it mostly affects 13/14900Ks, and some 13/14700Ks. All other SKUs seem to be fine, including i5 1x600Ks, so you'll be fine with that upgrade
although, I7 13/14700Ks should be totally fine if you run them at intel's recommended power profiles
@@parz1pane772 okay so just find a reasonably priced upgrade (but not an i9) in 13th or 14th gen. Update my BIOS, and run a recommended or lesser power settings.
I'm not trying to turn the PC into a raging furnace at idle but wanted to grab an upgrade while things are still available in 12th gen (if that's my best bet) and reduced prices on lots of stuff with new gen stuff releasing